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#this is anti-israel and anti-zionist not anti-semitic
haberdashing · 5 months
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I know I'm far from the first to compare what's happening in Gaza to the Holocaust, but I visited a local Holocaust museum today and one particular comparison struck me that I haven't seen much talk about.
See, people say that Gaza's like the Holocaust, because... genocide, and then the other side goes "nuh-uh, this isn't like the camps at all!"
And there's some truth to that. This is not the systematic mass murder of the gas chambers and death camps, nor is it the forced labor until death found in the work camps.
But there's another, much better-fitting Holocaust parallel here, if you just look slightly earlier in the timeline of genocide there.
See, here's the situation in Gaza, as I understand it:
The people in power ("oppressors") have decided that a certain race of people ("oppressed") within one specific part of the land they control cannot be trusted. This decision is, ostensibly, linked to various horrible crimes committed against the oppressors by individuals within the oppressed class; the truth behind the alleged crimes is arguable, but suffice it to say that even if the worst claims are true, they still do not even come close to justify subjecting an entire race of people to the ensuing mistreatment in return.
So, the oppressors designate one specific piece of land to be an area for the oppressed race to live by taking away their right to own property or even just to exist outside of that bit of land. A bit of land that, mind you, really isn't big enough for the population of people being forced to live there, inevitably leading to overcrowding and various resultant problems. The oppressors know this; they just either don't care or actually desire the suffering caused by this overcrowding.
Walls are built around this piece of land. The identification papers for all of its residents clearly signify that they are of the oppressed race, and that their civil liberties are to be curtailed because of it. Passage of people to and from this piece of land is heavily restricted, as is the movement of goods of all kinds in and out of its walls.
The exchange of information in and out of the land is restricted to some extent, too, but this isn't as easy to enforce as preventing escapees--and even there, the odd escape does happen too. The bigger piece of the puzzle regarding why people don't speak out about the oppressed being mistreated is the oppressors' propaganda machine working hard to ensure that people just... don't look too closely. Because who cares about the suffering of those people, anyway?
So, the most straightforward means of outright genocide from here are either attacking the residents of that small piece of land directly or forced movement so they can be slaughtered--sorry, "resettled"--elsewhere. But the quieter, more subtle method of genocide is just... preventing food and other essentials from passing through those walls, letting the overcrowding get worse and worse over time, denying medical treatment and other humanitarian aid to the oppressed people in desperate need of such assistance, and then sitting back and watching them slowly die off.
So no, Gaza isn't the camps. That much is true.
Gaza is the ghetto. Israel just remade the Warsaw ghetto.
Then they're surprised and outraged when the people of Gaza engage in even the most minor acts of rebellion in response, even as Israelis sing the praises of the Warsaw uprising in that other ghetto less than a century ago.
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alwaysisrael · 11 days
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Source : Rachel London UK on Instagram.
I hope this clears things up !!!
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youliveveryday · 7 months
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proudzionist · 20 days
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Source : thatpersianJew on Instagram 🇮🇱💙🫂
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autismserenity · 3 months
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pretty please, my fellow progressives
Could we please all keep in mind that the concept of "The Jews In General, or A Specific Type Of Jew, Controls Education, Government, Media, and/or Banking", is a longstanding antisemitic trope?
And most of all, that it is false??
No, a marginalized group does not also control education, the government, the media, and/or banking?
No, Jews do not secretly control these things and just pretend to be marginalized? No, Jews have not secretly been accumulating power since the Holocaust, granted by too-generous gentiles, out of pity?
No, it isn't better if you just mean a specific subgroup or kind of Jews. It's still specifically Jews.
It's like when people who hate trans/queer people are fine with rich white cis gay men. So they think it's not bigoted to blame "people with blue hair and pronouns" for the downfall of society.
We all know this means, "I only see some of you as human like me. You have to speak and act a certain way to count. Everyone in your group has to pass a test to get into the Good group."
Doesn't work.
Sure, it gives them plausible deniability to the people who matter to them. But everyone else can see exactly how they feel.
We've all known for years that it's bad to think of a marginalized group as having some "good ones." Rein it the heck in, please.
Because YES, all of those examples are ones I've seen implied, or stated outright, over and over, within the progressive community. This month alone.
#antisemitism#anti-semitic#yes this is about how gentiles use zionism#yes this is about how fast it went from 'this isn't NECESSARILY antisemitic' to 'this ISN'T antisemitic'#yes this is about claiming that we claim antisemitism to deflect valid criticism#yes this is part of a larger pattern of violating every progressive standard but only for jews#none of us would ever say 'people are just claiming misogyny to deflect valid criticism'#we would never claim that trans people secretly control or “influence” the government#we would never treat Ukrainians like “'noble savages” who need us to speak for them#but we treat Palestinians like “noble savages” who need us to speak for them#we know to center the people affected and uplift their voices in every other situation#but in this situation we ignore the fact that we're supporting palestinians by talking ABOUT them#we swallow far-right Palestinian propaganda channeled through diaspora organizations#while Palestinians in Gaza demand completely different solutions and support#zionists echo Palestinian solutions and experiences because we know people in Israel and Palestine#and we get told we love genocide or just blocked#this is how Hamas propaganda is designed to work. Hamas has systematically silenced Palestinians for 18 years and now it's all you know#it is genuinely terrifying to see the entire progressive community sound exactly like the alt-right while it absolutely insists it's not#we also know to center marginalized people's voices about what harms them -- except the Jews?#honestly I think that progressives listened before Oct 7 and that the “no we just mean ZIONISTS are evil” has done wonders to reverse that#let's be real the zionists-not-jews trope comes from Hamas too#all it had to do was claim it definitely meant Zionists not Jews and that it was the Palestinian resistance and progressives flocked to it#its fighters were calling home from the massacre to boast about how many Jews they had killed. it has not changed.#i suppose that the zionists-not-jews thing gave freedom to unexamined antisemitism that people felt guilty about#but oh my god it caught on like absolute wildfire#wall of words
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Jewish author, Sim Kern, shares a brief history of the term, “antisemitism” and why they will no longer be using this word.
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queenie-blackthorn · 8 months
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Pls rant about something. infodump to me. I want a loooooong one about your interests. I require something to read
not really an interest, more something i dont shut up abt, but here you go: the rant about an arab muslim about palestine and israel (imma try to explain the whole situation from the beginning but dont surprised if i get pissy at times)
zionists, not jews
first off, i wanna clarify this: zionists are who i blame for palestine. not jews. jews are an ethnoreligious group, zionists are people who support the creation of israel and encourage the literal recreation of the holocaust that theyre creating. im not anti-semitic, im anti-zionist. know the difference.
okay, now thats out of the way, lemme explain this next point: how did the conflict even begin? (i feel the need to explain this bc the media never does and the history is so so important)
the history
zionist movements began in maybe mid 19th century, jews worldwide were being persecuted and they wanted a land to themselves. they had their eyes set on palestine, even tho the palestinian bedouins there have been living in palestine for at least 1500 years
wwii left millions of jews stranded, so in 1947, the united nations suggested dividing palestine into a jewish and arab state. the jews accepted, but the arabs rejected it. this rejection was ultimately ignored, and israel declared itself a state in 1947, leading to palestinian arabs being displaced and a war starting between israel and arab nations. this was known as nakba—literally the arabic word for disaster, it mainly refers to palestinians being displaced after israel declared independence
the six-day war of 1967 was a conflict ultimately won by israel—they took control of the west bank, the gaza strip, and east jerusalem. conflicts got worse from here, and violence against civilians grew. its been snowballing since then
is it between jews and muslims?
no. its between jews and arabs. palestinian christians are some of the oldest communities of christianity worldwide, some being able to trace their history back to the birth of the church. its between the jews that claim the land to be theirs, and the arabs who have actually been on the land for longer than the 75 years since israel was formed (nearly 14 centuries longer, to be exact)
why i care so much
its not just because im arab, or just because im a muslim. of course, it is partially that—seeing my brothers and sisters get killed hurts me, esp knowing that theres not much i can do except pray to god that this ends.
yes, israeli citizens die every year bc of the conflict. im not saying that number is nothing. but the palestinian civilian fatalities are so much worse.
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the total deaths from 2008 to 2020 for palestine is over 20 times more than israeli deaths. (note that this graph is not up to date and does not include the hundreds of palestinians who have died since 2020. no, im not exaggerating. hundreds. i wish i was.)
some of my best friends are palestinian. the idea that they know people, or their parents know people, who have died at the hands of israelis, is absolutely not acceptable.
like my friends, millions of palestinians are now scattered across the globe, or in danger in their own country where zionists are trying to take their land.
this conflict is disgusting and wrong. jews have less of a right to that land than arabs. yes, jews have been living w arabs in that land for centuries, but its always been predominantly arabs. always has been, always should be.
and yet zionists refuse to accept it. take a look at this article from the times of israel:
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kanye is infamous for supporting hitler. all jenna did was say that palestinians deserve to live.
this honestly tells you more than anything else can.
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circeow · 2 months
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I am Lebanese. I used to be really white washed when I was a kid. I used to wish I was completely Australian and not have any Lebanese in me at all.
Just recently have I started embracing my culture and heritage as a Lebanese woman and I dreamed of visiting Lebanon again so I could absorb what I missed out on appreciating as a child. The language, the history, the food, the people.
Israel is currently bombing Lebanon as well as Palestine and Syria. This isn’t the beginning, but it’s scary. People have died/been injured, including children. I fear that the country that I used to not acknowledge as my native land, the country that I now hold so much respect and love for, the country that I wanted to come back to after I graduated so that I could finally embrace my rich culture, will be reduced to rubble.
To my Arab friends, Israel is already counting on people to forget and be apathetic about their actions. They spread lies and hatred about the Middle East and its people. They terrorise the inhabitants, steal their land, destroy their homes and try to cleanse them of their ethnicity. If Israel is already doing all this to try and eradicate our history and culture, we cannot assist them in this process.
Be proud about who you are, now more than ever. Be loud. Be irritating. Be the flies in their ear, they already see us as insects. Don’t ever be ashamed of where you come from, who you are. Your culture, values and beliefs are instilled in you from the moment you are born and are attacked the moment you are born. Keep them close to your heart because you have a heart, a functional one. One that feels empathy, compassion, kindness, love, joy, appreciation. In a world where these things are in such short supply, they are more valuable than ever.
Be MENA and proud in a world that tries to tear you down from the moment you rise.
Free Palestine.
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shonpota · 6 months
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The fact that Indonesian use term "gas lah" For "let's go" And making zionists going mad is so funny like why would you get intimidated by Indonesian words, you think gas just means gas? Lol, what a self centric personality, just like white Americans.
Before any of you cancel me, being anti zionist isn't anti semitic though. Zionists =/= jews after all.
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alwaysisrael · 10 days
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Source : Jewishpridealways
Exactly 💙 it does nothing to free Palestine !!
Pathetic and sad yes but it doesn't free Palestine whatsoever! !!!
No cure for stupid 🙄
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GOOD ..BRAVO 👏👏👏👏
Shut it down and throw away the key .
Al Jazeera is nothing but Anti semitic fake news ( if you even want to call what they do actual news) misinformation,outright lies and the list goes on and on !
Good riddance!
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news4dzhozhar · 5 months
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proudzionist · 17 days
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NO THEY DON'T REPRESENT THE JEWISH PEOPLE!
THEY ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!!
These are token Jews who think the Jewish people shouldn't have a ancestral homeland and these same rabbis in prior videos said "we should give Hamas gifts "after their massacre on Oct 7th and also said something even more StUpID than that ...that the Jews should've given the Nazis gifts and it was there fault they were exterminated.
Really ???
Many Jews did give the Nazis gifts
They even turned in their own thinking it would save them somehow and You know what ???
They ended up in the gas chambers right along with those they betrayed .
These Token Jews here are the same .
They have betrayed their own and in the end it will do nothing for them .
If they walked in Gaza right now gifts in hands ,they would still be killed .
They are Jewish just like those they betrayed and Anti semitic towards.
It is heartbreaking too see Token Jews who hate their own and in the end .....
We both face the same Anti semitism and hate .
This does not represent all Jews !
I am disgusted.
Source : Daniel Braun on Instagram
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shitakimooshrooms · 7 months
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I understand how terrible the things going on on both sides are, but no matter what you say, you can’t say that you are pro Palestine while also saying you aren’t antisemitic. Zionism is the idea that the Jewish people deserve and have a home land. Israel is that home land. By saying that you are anti Zionist you are also saying that you are antisemitic. Israel has tried in the past to make peace. They have given offers, they have told them they will give everything they explicitly asked for, and Palestine refused. Palestine attacked, even after we tried to make peace. This is not on Israel. They did not start this war, they did not ask for this war, but by god do i hope they end it. Because palestinians arent the only ones who live there. People with friends or family in Palestine? Your not the only ones. Everyone with any relation to either side is suffering.
I dont know how to close this off but i will say that i stand with Israel and people who are pro palestine can go ahead and block me because i dont want anything to do with you either.
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Sim Kern, a Jewish author shares a brief history of “anti-semitism” and why they will no longer use this term.
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