#the wise man's fear

[iagi-san]

Kvothe is ambisextrous (bisexual) but he hasn't realized yet, an essay:

Okey, so this is my delulu shit and you can go with me or against me I don't care. Here we go:

Disclaimer: The author is totally cool with that idea so don't think that it couldn't be canon, because it COULD.

First, HAVE WE SEEN HOW OUR BOY TALKS ABOUT SIMMON?! Like dude, you have a gigantic crush on your mate, we get it. The only time the word "I love you" is written in the whole books is directed to Simmon from Kvothe. He says that they argue like newlyweds. When Simmon is reading that poem Kvothe makes the point to describe how handsome is Simmon. When he returns to Imre Simmon says that he is dating Fela, Kvothe makes a monologue on how Sim is the perfect boyfriend and he is just a turd (this boy as zero self esteem at his core)

Second, at the begining of the second book, at his first encounter with Denna, he gets jealous because that gentleman is really hot and has a lovely voice and it's totally unfair (we get it kid)

Third, all that bit pre-adem with Tempi, that boy got a crush on Kvothe and there are so many scenes when it could be turned out as a slow romance lol (they would be so cute as a couple)

And last, we get to his relationship with Bast. Patrick himself has joked multiple times that they are couple, or at least that Bast has a MASSIVE crush on our innkeper lol. So Kote and Bast own together the Inn, what two other men have an Inn? Exactly, Deoch and Stanchion who are a polyamorous couple and is where we discover the word "ambisextrous" that casually Kvothe knows and no one else among his friends (has he looked it up on the Archives? I totally can see our young Kvothe searching more info about his feelings)

Getting back with Bast, he is a Fae, a pansexual satyr nonetheless (pun intended), their chemistry doesn't go unnoticed among readers, specially the tenderness (that scene with Bast singing a lullaby to a wounded Kote), care (how he stitches him up and swapes his injuries althought Kote says that it's not necessary) and how he talks to him and about him to Chronicler (that bone chilling oath he makes towards his master).

At his own Kote sees Bast as someone a bit immature and who is like a child, I don't see quite romance on his side but who knows, he treats him with a lot of respect and care to not hurt his feelings.

Finally, my take is that Kvothe may not be as straight as he portrays himself to be and I'm desperate to read more fics with that in mind.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

#kingkiller chronicle #kkc #kvothe #patrick rothfuss #the name of the wind #bast #Kvothe is bi period #the wise man's fear #Ambisextruos #Tempixkovthe deserved better #Persimmon has golden retriever energy and Kvothe orange cat energy #We want to know more about Willem too

[asturlavi]

tunes beneath moonlight 

#name of the wind #notw #the wise man's fear #patrick rothfuss #kingkiller chronicle #kkc #kvothe #auri #ok i swear i'm going to start putting more effort in posting in places that isn't elongated muskrat's paradise #ANYWAYS i'm reading wmf which means a huge urge to draw more fanart #but alas #no time

[bookcub]

Felurian and Consent

content warning for discussions of sexual assault and rape

It had been a while since I have written a meta post for kkc but I just reread Wise Man's Fear and made myself read the Felurian scenes in their entirety.

And wow, am I mad at myself.

I cannot believe I let myself forget the way Kvothe clearly states Felurian breaching consent. The Felurian scene have always been upsetting to me, they never felt consensual, and many interpretations of the book had me thinking that maybe this was just me or just a very small section of the scenes.

But no. Kvothe initially gives consent to Felurian (well, arguably but thats a discussion for another time). He chooses to leave his companions to be with Felurian. And then he wants to leave. when he tells her he wants to leave, this happens: "My mind went numb as quickly as if I'd been struck a blow to the back of my head. . . I felt the need to have her. . .Only because of my Arcane training did I hold onto any concept of my own identity at all." (639)

He has revoked his consent and she had denied him the power to leave. She does not allow him to leave. Kvothe is an object to Felurian. If this is not clear enough in the abuse of power Felurian has, Kvothe then goes on to say he feels as he did when he was in Tarbean and sexually assaulted. "She touched my cheek softly. Softly, I bent to kiss her, and something broke in my mind. I felt the snap as four years of my life slid away. Suddenly I was back on the streets of Tarbean. Three boys bigger than me. . . had dragged me from the broken crate where I'd been sleeping. . . Two of them held me down. The third cut my clothes off my body." (641) Kvothe then describes that he was able to escape but still traumatized from the event. And that his state of mind was similar to how he felt when he was with Felurian. This wakes his sleeping mind, where he finds Felurian's name and finally has the power to leave, but hesitates because he doesn't want to kill her.

Kvothe does not have her name or the wind's name at his beck and call after this moment and persuades Felurian into letting him go by promising to make her famous in his song. He does not have consent to leave at any moment. And while she does show him kindness at moments, she is holding him against his will for most of his time with her.

Yes, he enjoys part of his time with her. Yes, he learns from her. But that does not negate the lack of consent involved with the entire interaction that often goes unnoticed in the fandom. And it would be easy to say an entire relationship was horrible and toxic but instead we see the push and pull of how toxic relationships can have caring moments while still revoking consent. However, the lack of attention people pay to Felurian as an absuer and rapist and how Kvothe is written off as simply "wanting fairy sex" when he literally is not in his right mind when he runs off and then has his ability to leave revoked by Felurian.

My conclusion, I suppose, is to stop writing off the Felurian scenes as frivolous sex scenes and acknowledging the lack of consent that is explicitly addressed and then the underlying threat to Kvothe's safety that persists from Felurian throughout the scenes.

I also suppose the issue of interpretation has many conflicting factors. For example, our patriarchal society doesn't like to view men as victims of sexual assault and women as perpetrators of sexual assault, which is also reflected in Kvothe's world as well, as when he tells the story, men are mostly excited on his behalf and women are rolling their eyes at his story. I think Kvothe's attitude towards it also reflects this. And this is why I think a lot of people misinterpret this scene.

I am interested to hear other people’s thoughts as I am still processing how these scenes were written and interpreted, both by the characters in the book and by fans.

#kkc #kingkiller chronicle #the wise man's fear #patrick rothfuss #felurian #my meta #i still don't think this post is fully formed #but discussions usually help me figure out my meaning #sorry I don't have a proper citation #its the first felurian chapter tho

[for-hireath]

You know why we're not having The doors Of Stone? Because The Waystone Inn lays in a silence of three parts, AND THE THIRD PART IS THE DEEPEST AND HEAVIEST PART.

#You know that it took 15 years to write these books #and if third book is gonna take more than 15 years #then I'm gonna dig my own grave #kvothe #The bloodless #the wise man's fear #TWMF #the name of the wind #TNOTW #patrick rothfuss #The doors of stone #the kingkiller chronicle #kingkiller chronicle #kvothe kingkiller #Kkc #Kkc3

[timelorddarthswagger]

King killer chronicles theory.

We've already been shown how to kill the leader of the seven.

A man who's face is hidden in shadow. And we've seen how to cut shadow when Kvothes Shadow cloak was made. And she used moon light to do it.

That's why the songs say to fear a night with no moon.

It's not just that the moon is more in the fae world then the mortal one.

That's why his former friend and ally bound his face in shadow. Now it's not his name that needs to be known. Because once you know the name of shadow you can bar his path. Make it so he can't escape and so that tehlu and his angels can imprison him again or cut him down.

Brought to you by 2am thoughts!

#the name of the wind #the wise man's fear #patrick rothfuss #kvothe the arcane #kvothe the bloodless #kvothe kingkiller #kingkiller chronicle #name of the wind theories

[gollancz]

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[im-surviving-off-of-tea11]

im on wise mans fear now and am reading the physical copy so I can’t post the text sc BUT THE POCKETS THING COMES BACK!! he’s all sad bc he doesn’t have pockets instead of focusing on the fucking PIRACY THING??? you have no clue how badly i want to read about his journey over to vintas you have no clue

#kkc #kvothe #the wise man's fear

[realdonkeykong]

I think the funniest result of Patrick Rothfuss taking so long between books is that, since enough time has passed between books 2 and 3 of Kingkiller that social progress (and his knowledge thereof) has made several strides forward, the current latest release (a spinoff about Bast) has unintentionally canonized the town of Newarre as a haven for Queer people in a world where otherwise, there is one gay relationship between two very minor characters. Kvothe fully went into hiding and chose to live in Gayville, Temerant and we love him for that

#the name of the wind #patrick rothfuss #the wise man's fear #the narrow road between desires

[landmoose]

The worst part about any fandom is the other fans. I don't understand how you pick up and read the Stories Are Beautiful and True author and still lack a shred of empathy for other human beings and what they experience mentally. And if you can't read or comprehend short comments like "It's so strange to think you can berate people into making art" then I have no idea how you think you can handle a novel.

#the kingkiller chronicle #kkc #patrick rothfuss #the name of the wind #the wise man's fear #narrow road between desires

[nerfalice]

🍃

#the name of the wind #the wise man's fear #kvothe #my art #:)

[iagi-san]

Revisiting again the Eld forest Arc, do you think that the rest of the group, Marten, Dedan and Hespe started a bet on how long would it take for Kvothe and Tempi to fuck?

Like they see that they start to get along, they hug each other, Tempi laughs at Kvothe's jokes (even if no one finds it funny) they are clearly flirting, and suddenly they do all their activities together (tracking, going to Croson, bath time), they spend hours together on their own far from the camp and when they return they are sweaty and Kvothe even starts to pick on Tempi manners. They probably thought they were a couple already now.

Then Kvothe leaves with Tempi to go on a trip to the mountains instead of joining them back to Severen, did they think they were celebrating their honeymoon or smth?

#kkc #Tempi #Kvothe #tempixkvothe #I ship them cuz they would look cute #They deserved more #Kvothe is bi #in fact all characters are bi cuz I say so #kingkiller chronicles #the name of the wind #the wise man's fear

[merjyh]

Six-String

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[bookcub]

Auri: “She knew the true shape of the world. All else was shadow and the sound of distant drums.”

Elodin: "Using words to talk of words is like using a pencilto draw a picture of itself, on itself. Impossible. Confusing. Frustrating. But there are other ways to understanding. Look! Blue! Blue! Blue!"

#kkc #kingkiller chronicle #fave kkc character polls #the name of the wind #the wise man's fear #patrick rothfuss #the kingkiller chronicle #notw #auri #elodin #polls #book polls

[boooklover]

“It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question and he'll look for his own answers.”

Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear

#books #booklr #bookaddict #booknerd #reading #quote #booklover #book quotes #bookworm #book #patrick rothfuss #the wise man's fear #the kingkiller chronicle #fantasy books #high fantasy

[kkcincorrectquotes]

Elodin: How is everyone doing?

Wilem: Well I’m breathing

Elodin: Setting the bar pretty low huh?

Simmon: Well it’s better than Kvothe anyways

Kvothe: [having a panic attack] honestly fuck you

#kvothe #simmon #elodin #wilem #the name of the wind #The Wise Man's Fear #kkc #the kingkiller chronicle #kingkiller chronicle #love these bastards #missing them #patrick rothfuss

[theoakleafpancake]

Did not know Patrick Rothfuss was releasing another book, but with this knowledge in mind, I’m going to actually reread NOTW and then finish WMF

#idk if I’m putting it off cause the third book still hasn’t been released #or if I’m just lazy #probably both #but I did like the first book so I should at least try to finish it #patrick rothfuss #the name of the wind #the wise man's fear #the kingkiller chronicle