I know its 3am as I wright this but I think I found something online that might be important- or at least, be something to consider- food for thought and all that jazz-
you see, I was scrolling thought reddit when I came upon a particular post...
it starts of seeming very normal, right? I mean, it's just your average detarune fan asking about equipment advice, right?
but.. somethings... off, to say the least......
Not only is the wording weird when talking about Spamton, (with the phrasing of "Spamton dude" being particularly odd, as to get to Spamton's shop, you need to get fairly familiar with him and his character, but this user seems to be acting like this is their first time meeting him.) But Spamton HIMSELF seems to look... Different than usual. Or, at lease, different than his usual shop sprite that is...
and I was not alone on this sentiment, as the comments noticed too!
which leads to wonder....
... yeah, that...
To which OP provided an... Interesting answer....
D-.... Didn't have the money? But, deltarune is free game? Or, at least, Chapter's 1 and 2 are...
you see, a while back, Toby mention online that Chapters 3, 4, and 5 would all be released together, and, unlike the first two, cost money. (or as a certain salesman would phrase it, cost some [[Sweet, Sweet KROMER]]!!!)
Not only that, but its kinda ironic that this user pirated a copy of a free game, and have the one character who has a history with shady links (or in other words, [[Hyperlink Blocked]]) be the one who's changed... Almost as if this bootleg game has its own bootleg of Spamton... The one character who literally tries to be a bootleg of ANOTHER character in-universe. *Cough cough* Swatch- *Cough cough*
But this also leads to question... are there any other differences in the game? I mean, it is a pirated game, surely there has to be some other differences from the original game other than some seemingly random shop sprite of spamton, right?
luckily, I was not the only one who was curious about this and a user by the name of kuro50 ask OP to quote:
To which OP responded:
how... convenient.....
I mean- don't get me wrong- I get that feeling not having any program to record with (though than again OBS Studio exist)- but even still, all of this seems a little bit too, odd to just let off as something "normal"...
but, than again, its not like there's anything necessary wrong about it either, right? I mean, sure, it weird that someone pirated a free game, but, maybe they're just some gullible kid online?
...Except, a user by the name of ThePotatoPerson510 pointed out a few striking things...
And then... it all stared to click...
I went to check the profile and, just as ThePotatoPerson510 had said,
"u/ThatDudeTobias, Cake day December 27, 2022, made 12 hours ago..."
the same hour as the spamton post was made... almost as if the account was made just so they could post this.... (Note: the previous image in this post of the spamton post says it was made 10 hours ago. This time gap is because I have been writing this post for 2 hours straight now- coming onto 3 hours- as such, I give you this screenshot showing both the post and the profile, and thus, showing they were in fact made in the same hour-)
MID WRIGHTING UPDATE: It seems as if there WAS a time gap between the two post, as its 5:24am and I just took THIS screenshot showing the time gap. Take this how you will I suppose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Now, about the name...
It seem kinda... on the nose, to say the least. I mean, Toby, Tobias, seems a little to similar, right? But, at the same time, knowing Toby, he would be the type to use a seemingly obvious while still not TOO obvious name to fuck with us (he DOSE have a history with being a troll when it comes to his games ¬_¬||)
Also, looking back at the spamton image and comparing it to the name "Tobias", they both share one thing in common...
They're both SIMILAR to their originals, to the point where you can tell what they're based off of, but, somewhat off...
As for the one other post on the account, well...
its..
... A comment on MeIRL?
Well, what's the original post?
A..... Video of some guy walking up the stairs, only to keep looping up the same steps, unable to get to the end?
Well, that's... anticlimactic.....
Sooo.... Is this just some random account then? Was all of this just for nothing? Was it all red hearings in the end?
Well, that's what I thought..
For you see, I realized something....
Toby Fox is a well-known fan of anime, but, not just any anime....
specifically, JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE.
How do we know this? Well, in undertale, there is an item in the game called a Punch Card
When this card is used in battle, it says,
"OOOORAAAAA!!! You rip up the punch card! Your hands are burning!" This increases your attack.
"ORA" Is a common phrase screamed in JOJO' when one of the Jostar's are attacking.
Not only that, but in deltarune, main antagonist of chapter 2 is Queen.
her battle theme?
Attack of the Killer Queen
Killer Queen is the stand of Yoshikage Kira. The main antagonist of JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE: Diamond is Unbreakable. Which is the 4th Chapter of the series.
So, what dose ALL of this have to do with the video "Tobias" commented on?
Well, you see, in JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE: Stardust Crusaders, when Polnareff, one of the main protagonist, tries to walk up the stairs to face DIO, the main antagonist, he finds himself in the same loop as the man in the video. Continuously walking up the same set of stares, unable to reach the end.
Meaning, the video that "Tobias", or, as we presume, Toby commented on was in fact...
A JOJO REFFERANCE, AND THUS, MAKES PERFICT SENCE AS TO WHY HE WOULD COMMENT ON IT
...... And so with that last tidbit out of the way, we are left with 3 conclusions that we can come to...
1. This "Tobias" is actually Toby Fox teasing us about Chapter 3 and or some other upcoming scheme of his he has up his sleaves.
2. This "Tobias" is actually Toby Fox just fucking with us
and 3. This is some third party not affiliated with Toby but still making something and teasing it (possibly and ARG or something of sorts)
.... That or I've just spent over 3 hours of my life typing this up only for it to be a shitpost by Temmie or something :/
either way its 6:41am as I type this and I have not slept all night so I hope you liked this deep dive analysis into this possibly important reddit account that could hold significant lore for the upcoming chapters of deltarune and if you'll excuse me I'm going to go collapse on my couch for the rest of the day :)
have a wonderful time zone <3
Still fascinating to me that there's people who truly think their experiences are universal, that because something is popular in the circles they run in means that everyone should know it and will insult and treat people like stupid uncultured swine for even perceived differences in experiences. or if folks disagree with them when they make overly broad generalizations on what 'everyone' knows or thinks.
(b/c it's not like poor people, people from different cultures/subcultures, and people with fundamentally different interests exist.)
"How come out of millions of existing tumblr users not every single soul has yet participated in this particular Condescending Clearly Reblog-bait post that demanded notes on basis of people's moral grounds?? It's almost like not every single post reaches every single person on an algorithm-less website like tumblr, and it's almost like it doesn't make someone a immoral for not being obliged to participate in proving themselves to a bunch of strangers anymore by reblogging a 10 years old post with a deactivated op, what are we doing as a society nowadays"
Same Age AUs are so fascinating to me, and of the ones I've seen I really like them. In particular if we have Reigen and Shigeo both as middle schoolers because instead of an older mentor figure Shigeo is ending up with another kid. He gets to have a friend his age who gets to drag him around to do stuff and it's nice, really nice to have a friend he can relate to. Meanwhile Reigen has soooo many ✨issues✨ but hey he's great at bullshitting and is getting Shige to open up some more, while on the flip side he's also getting a friend and can go out and do more now that he has someone to do stuff with. Plus they make great business partners so this is going amazingly :D
Another version I like is if this is the result of some time travel shenanigans, mostly because I like seeing a more stark contrast between kid Reigen and adult Reigen, especially through Shigeo's eyes because... this isn't his shishou, not exactly, because kid Reigen doesn't have the years of life experience that helps his words hold more meaning, even if kid Reigen is still a great talker and bullshitter. He can't say everything right that Shige needs to hear and its a bit off putting, especially if kid Reigen has different views on being "special" and whatnot (considering... "I want to be someone"). But there's still elements there that is just so Reigen in the way he talks and the way he moves that its like. Yeah, this is a kid, but it's the same person and everyone can see just how Reigen is, this is how he started. He's not Shigeo's shishou but he's still Reigen.
So….after further review I am 99.999999% sure as heck the Mad About You “we just work together” comment was inherently flippant. Like, incredibly flippant. Like, almost fishing for a rebuttal flippant.
How in 2024 are we still living in a fucking world where it's absolutely acceptable and even good to be a racist fuck who publicly calls a whole people "terrorists" and mock their suffering?
A world where wanting ceasefires and peace and your people to live is "supporting terrorism" while demanding more blood, more death and a fucking GENOCIDE is NOT?
A world where those who ask for equality and fairness and to let people live are called "terrorist" and "Nazi"? By actual Nazis??
A world where State racism and genocide are STILL acceptable and "debatable" things?
A world where only ONE country has the right of life and death on everyone on fucking Earth?
A world where White are human and Brown are not?
A world where War is Peace and Peace is War? Where Truth is Lie and Lie is Truth?
i’m so excited for whatever the penalties are for the titan forms dude. is it a point of exhaustion. is it being stunned for a turn like when haste runs out. or are there gonna be sexy mind fuckery penalties to keep their identities in the face of a titan’s soul because matt did imply that when fearne faced down rau’shan it was like a weird tenuous connection. so like are we doing a pacific rim drift thing here with a titan because that’s RAD AS HELL,
@laozuspo @aemiron-main and anyone else talking lately about Henry/El/Brenner memory alteration shenanigans and lab footage, have you talked about the HNL Control Room teaser already?
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they titled this video HNL Control Room so as not to tell us too much too early, but of course we know now that this is NINA and not a control room.
and no, that video doesn't show the same lab footage we see El watching. this is just artistic license for the sake of a teaser and not necessarily actual footage she would've been shown, but if we do take an in-universe view of this just for shiggles, the implications of the footage in that teaser are WACK.
I'd say that only one of these clips could actually be filmed from one of the wall mounted surveillance cameras (the one at 0:22). most of the rest are close-ups someone shot of blood splatters, the door handle (a curious choice) etc.
but the tasty part is that some of this footage is impossible according to the timeline we're shown -
the blood splatters are there, but the bodies aren't. well, this must just be footage from after the massacre, after they removed the bodies?
that's the obvious explanation, except for this clip:
the dead kid whose blood I assume that is, isn't there, nor is Two who should be over on the right. but if this after the massacre, that mirror should be broken. this shot could only have been obtained DURING the massacre.
and I don't see any surveillance cameras in the rainbow room that aren't mounted in high corners, which is not the angle of that footage. those two clips I screenshotted would be filmed more or less from each others' vantage points. someone filmed these on tripods like the one that's sometimes visible in the rainbow room.
or maybe not that specific one, because here it is, but one of the other ones like it (and yes those wall camera lights are both on it's just too small to see)
now again irl this is just to not spoil the massacre for us long before season 4 came out by leaving the corpses in these shots. but in-universe? bruh.
if I see one more post on ANY site calling a male character "female coded" I will be walking directly into the woods to become an eldritch monster that eats the curious and the wayward