#the jin and jiang clans were hard to hc i think that the jiang clan would have a lot of rangers definitely

[marudny-robot]

mdzs x pokemon au thoughts

mostly focusing on yunmeng trio - or rather duo (jc and wwx)

So, focusing on bodies of water, magikarps could be found in lots of places. Especially in yunmeng.

There are also many disciples who likes hard and seemingly impossible challenges. Like training magikarps into gayardoses.

And yunmeng jiang sect can be proud of few disciples and clan members who successfully trained their magikarps into gayardoses. Also, at some point it became the question of not "who can achieve it", but "who can train the stronger gayardos from magikarp" or "who can train the stronger gayardos from magikarp faster" or "who can train the stronger gayardos from magikarp faster without the pokemon starting to hate you and running away somewhere" or "who can train the stronger gayardos from magikarp and be the youngest to do so".

That's why the two young rivals caught a magikarp for themselves to train. Achive the impossible and kick the ass of your sect brother etc.

JC's magikarp has some sick-ass name that would be truly suitable for a beast like a gayardos (but still it's something a ten year old (or younger?) would think of.

WWX thought of so. MANY. NAMES. but none of them was the ideal of his glorious magikarp-sooner-than-JC's-turned-to-be-gayardos. In the end it's name is some kind of fish-based dish that JY implied*, would make magikarp into if he starts abounding the poor pokemon now**.

(* she only asked nicely if he's still training it!) (** JC at least knows some lick of responsibility because he had dogs (dog-like pokemon?) before. But Jiang Fengmian's and Madam Yu's neglect towards (their) children is not the best example of taking care of others :/ And if YJ is going to make her brothers learn some responsibility by making them focus on their bet then it's no-ones business)

Anyways. Training magikarps it's surprisingly not so easy. Despite the hard training sessions both pokemon have not evolved before the boys had to go to Gusu for lectures. They still have not evolved when they came back, nor when the Indoctrination happened, nor when Lotus Pier was attacked - and what's worse they got separated from their trainers when the siblings trio were on the run, (why would you have your water-based pokemon in some kind of pokeball when you live nearby water???). And so, JC's and WWX's bet was never resolved....

...some time later, when the Sunshot Campaign was ongoing, there was plan to retake Lotus Pier. Well, plan always was to retake Lotus Pier, but now they had means and battle plans to do so.

Yet, by the time they arrived, instead of Wens roaming around they found Lotus Pier overtaken by pokemons with two gayardoses seemingly taking the role of main bosses there.

It was a beautiful moment of pokemons reuniting with their trainers, new jiang members being glad not to be considered food by the wild pokemon due being part of the jiang, non-jiang members taking few significant steps back to not get eaten, and everyone sans two having a moment of 'what the fuck did they call them' when (mostly)respectable people like Sandu Sengshou and (not-yet-called-that-then)Yilling Patriarch calling to two gayardoses name akin to "Terminator 3000" and "Chicken Nuggets"

They still don't know who's magikarp evolved first. Officially the bet ended with a tie. Practically Jin Ling's granchildren are aware the bet was never resolved.

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PS1: there was this one post about how Jiang Family is bad at names (including wwx) and it lives rent free in my brain, but I don't remember who's it was nor specifics

PS2: I hc that if wwx (no matter the au) had pets, either he would let others name them (not because he doesn't have ideas, but because he thinks other short-timed joy is more important/more valuable than his decision in things that don't pertain to the safety of his loved ones and if others don't think for even a moment that his silly name for his pet is good for his pet than why shouldn't he listen to them especially if it's coming from his loved ones?), OR he would name his pets after some kind of food.

#mdzs #yunmeng siblings #yunmeng shuangjie #twin prides of yunmeng #jiang cheng #wei wuxian

[edwardglitterhandss]

I DESPERATELY want to hear more abt your untamed dnd ideas

Oh wow really!? Uh ok so I was mainly thinking about how it would be a cool setting to run and/or play in bc the lore is just so cool and I think it could apply to 5e well :P Like the players could go on night hunts and either be from different clans or make their own (working sorta like how a guild would base 5e) and the wen clan is like gathering power and taking over other clans and the players can participate in the sunshot campaign with their clan. like that'd be the main culmination and they could do might hunts and dungeons in like encounters with the nie tomb or the tortoise with the main characters as NPCs, the more I think about it I like the idea of lwj as a paladin bc of the oaths of the lan clan and everything, or a multi with bard.

It really was mainly spurred by the thought of like how there's DND episodes in a lot of American cartoons and I was like hmm what would wwx play and I'm like ajdhdkdlan he was like p far into monk levels then got his chi blocked and respecd or multid to warlock. And then I like the thought of nmj as a barbarian, and Jiang Cheng as a fighter/monk multi mebbe, nhs would definitely be a skill jockey, wen ning would be a grave domain cleric, most of the lan clan would be paladin, cleric, and bard while I think the Jiang clan would be mainly rangers, druids, and monks. the nies would be barbarians and fighters. The wen clan would probably have a lot of sorcerers and rogues, I think the jin clan would have a lot of bards and wizards. Xue yang is a rogue, xxc is a cleric and song lan is a monk. Jgy would probably be a mastermind rogue

Lol I hope u like it, lmk how you feel about the character class headcanons and stuff!!

#i think the main issue would be that the setting had its own sort of magic system which heavy monk so its hard not to be like everyone is #monk #it maknly started as a thirst for a period piece with supernatural elements as a setting and character headcanons #might be focused on a quest for the yin iron shards #i liked how each clan had their own ways of training and cultivation which is why i had them listed as specific classes #like they would have some of every class but a definite higher concentration of certain classes given how they train #the jin and jiang clans were hard to hc i think that the jiang clan would have a lot of rangers definitely #mdzs #the untamed #dnd #d&d #5e #asks #pldubrahs #headcanons #so ye lmk what u think #what u may eant to know more about #etc #lol i domt like ever get asks so this came as a surprise #i feel like i typecast the rogue but tbh their styles just fit it #i think nhs would also work well as a rogue tho or a bard

[songofclarity]

Out of sheer curiosity, what do you think of Wen Xu. Any HC?

Two Wen Xu asks came in back-to-back and I could probably have answered them both at once, but I'll use your daring moment of sheer curiosity to focus on headcanons/theories I have for him, Anon~!

Similar to Su She, who caused problems while lurking in the background, I think Wen Xu, who also caused problems while lurking in the background, is our guy who has been inciting several other rising conflicts between the Qishan Wen and the other sects over the years. He doesn't need explicit orders to do this, mind you, because he is simply doing what any self-respecting son of the Qishan Wen Sect would do. Just like the Twin Prides look to the Jiang motto of Attempt the Impossible and the Twin Jades look to the 3,000 Lan rules, Wen Xu is also guided by Clan tradition:

The Wen Clan used the sun as the motif of their clan, signifying that they could "compete with the sun for radiance, match the sun in longevity." (ch. 17, ERS)

The sun, however, is beautiful and warm and radiant all on its own, which means he doesn't have to play nice with the other sects if he doesn't want to. In fact, it goes against policy to treat the other sects as equals! Therefore, with him being the predominant Wen outside Nightless City, it seems apt to assign these events to him:

1. Monopolizing all the prime Night Hunt locations and excluding the other sects, which made the other sects resent the Qishan Wen even more

Remember Jin Ling setting up those 400 golden nets? That's expensive and entitled! I imagine Wen Xu was our first Jin Ling, except rather than using 400 golden nets it's Wen Xu and his friends and Wen favorites who are staking claims on all the best sites. They're having a fun time and everyone else can cry about it! Remember that guest cultivators love being with the Wen Sect! It likely comes with plenty of favors, and Wen Xu as Wen RuoHan's eldest son had much to offer to gain and keep their support for the Qishan Wen.

2. Pushing the Waterborne Abyss from Qishan into Gusu Lan territory, making it a Lan problem and making the other sects resent the Qishan Wen even more

I headcanon that this event is what eventually prompted Wen Chao to daringly declare that he killed the Tortoise of Slaughter. Did Wen Xu declare that he had killed the Waterborne Abyss (which would sound absurd since the only known way to defeat it is to drain the lake and keep it dried out for years)? Or did he own up to how he simply got rid of the problem? Either way, he made Qishan safe, which is what any cultivation sect is supposed to do for their region.

The Qishan Wen are good to the Qishan Wen and the common folk beneath them. It's really only the other sects that take issue with them and see them as a threat.

*Please remember that the Qishan Wen Sect isn't an empire. They aren't trying to take over the world. They are simply seeking dominance and prominence, with all the power and prestige that comes with it.*

3. It's canon that Wen Xu led the attack on Cloud Recesses, that he accused QingHeng-jun of something to validate this assault, that he ordered Lan WangJi's leg broken when he stood in their way, and that he is responsible for the death of QingHeng-jun (whom I headcanon died due to critical burns from the fire)

The big question here is what, exactly, was Wen Xu/the Wen accusing QingHeng-jun of? It could be something real: neglecting his duties or even something to do with Madam Lan, since we really don't know her backstory. Or something overblown: having two sons who wear clouds on their ribbons, and clouds block out the sun, and those two sons did better than the Wen in the archery competition, so it must be an anti-Wen conspiracy, etc etc. (Wang LingJiao had to learn that logic somewhere!) The latter appeals to me the most, and highlights how Wen Xu was a role model for his little brother. The difference being that Wen Xu had experience handling other sects without getting everyone killed.

Frankly, that Wen Xu destroyed Cloud Recesses and got their Sect Leader killed and made their second Sect Leader go missing and all the other sects let him get away with it just reinforces, to me, that he has indeed been up to no good for a long time and that he is incredibly strong in his own right. Although Wei WuXian comments that the Wen Sect has a higher proportion of weak and incompetent disciples/subordinates, I headcanon that Wen Xu is not one of the weak ones.

But also Wen Xu is not bloodthirsty. He did what he needed to do and the only one left dead was the one that the Wens had a undisclosed problem with: QingHeng-jun. Wen Xu is strong but he has restraint. He never pushed anyone into a corner which could incite a rebellion, which was Wen Chao's mistake.

Until Wen Xu finally did push too hard:

4. It's canon that he went against Wen RuoHan's speech which effectively said to leave the Qinghe Nie alone. By ignoring how Wen RuoHan said that Nie MingJue would not bend, he pushed the Nie into a corner and bit off more than he could chew and got himself beheaded

All the Wens appeared to agree that the Sunshot Campaign was just an act of arrogance on the part of the other sects. The Wens did not take it seriously during those first three months, and therefore neither sought to squash it out or defeat it.

Wen Xu is what proves them wrong when he gets himself killed.

But what was Wen Xu doing in Hejian!? I headcanon/theorize that he was trying to end the Campaign on his own terms. Wen Xu was used to winning and used to the sects capitulating to Wen power and presence. Cloud Recesses was already destroyed and Lan XiChen is no threat, Lotus Pier was conquered and the Yunmeng Jiang were annihilated, and the Wens expected the Lanling Jin to come crawling back to them when things got too rough. This left the Qinghe Nie as the last foe, and thus Wen Xu went on his own prerogative to take Nie MingJue out and claim dominance for the Qishan Wen once more.

RIP Wen Xu

I don't say all of this to somehow make Wen Xu look evil--the Wens aren't evil and I don't understand why some readers want to dumb down the whole story by shoving them into a little evil box--although I guess I headcanon him as having a big head and being something of a bully lol. He's just being the same kind of pompous rich kid like Jin ZiXuan and Jin Ling except he has actual power and authority to back it up. The Qishan Wen are the biggest, richest, most powerful sect. He is the one who will one day inherit it as he is Wen RuoHan's oldest son. So he is both simultaneously protecting the Qishan Wen name as well as reinforcing it's power. He is endearing himself to his father by "fixing problems" and "taking care of unruly sects" before the problem even reaches Wen RuoHan's ears. Considering what we see and hear from Wen RuoHan, and how Wen RuoHan fails to make decisions he's not already being ushered into by a third party, Wen Xu and others are very much pro-actively promoting the Qishan Wen on their own terms.

Wen RuoHan is thus very happy with this loyal and righteous son of his! And it leaves Wen Chao striving to follow in Wen Xu's footsteps.

I headcanon that Wen Xu is much older than Wen Chao, like at least 10 years older if not more. (Who knows how old Wen RuoHan is? However old or young I want him to be at any given time! lol) This puts their relationship in a funny/annoying range of Wen Xu being the big brother but also old enough to pull the adult/parent card. Wen Chao has poor cultivation and he's the baby, which is why he gets Wen ZhuLiu as a bodyguard while Wen Xu, who is arguably quite strong, just gets to run around with his subordinates. Wen Xu is the jock big brother who pushes Wen Chao's buttons and it looks like they hate each other--but I also headcanon that Wen Xu likes seeing Wen Chao succeed in whatever dumb thing Wen Chao decided to do today and Wen Chao wants to grow up to as respected and powerful as Wen Xu (and Wen RuoHan) one day. They are not adversaries although there is competition and conflict between them.

And, as I mentioned before, we get Waterborne Abyss vs Tortoise of Slaughter competition between them. Both of them don't believe it! Father, he is not that competent!

Wen RuoHan laughs it out and disagrees, because he appreciates that both his kids are doing amazing feats. (Are they though? Are they???)

Then there are headcanons of Wen Xu and Wen Qing! Their families were close because they are family and their parents were BFFs! I have yet to decide if I want Wen Xu or Wen Qing to be older. Da-ge or Da-jie? One idea I like for them is that they were close as children, but maybe grew up and went their separate ways a little. That Wen Qing never renounced the Wen Sect makes me hold fast that she did love her family and clan, even if she didn't agree with what they did for their sect. Wen Xu wasn't a bad guy even if he did bad things. (She disliked Wen Chao but maybe she liked Wen Xu a little more lol)

I headcanon Wen Ning's outstanding archery involved Wen Xu giving him some hands-on assistance. (Da-ge? Da-ge...!) Like everyone else in the Wen Sect, I headcanon Wen Ning would have also wanted to impress Wen RuoHan and be noticed by him, too. They didn't keep it a secret from Wen Chao on purpose, it just turned out that way especially since most of the work was done by Wen Ning. (Wen Xu was at the discussion conference but he didn't watch the archery competition, instead teasing it was for babies in order to make Wen Chao cross. Wen Xu likes Wen Chao but he needs to grow up!)

There are also headcanons about his mother, but that's a whole rabbit hole of its own lol My main headcanon is that Wen Xu and Wen Chao have the same mother, but she had difficult pregnancies that resulted in them being born years apart. Madam Wen and Wen RuoHan had wanted a large family and sadly only had two sons. Wen Xu did not grow up short on affection, which resulted in him wanting to protect the Qishan Wen name even more.

I headcanon that Wen RuoHan is a good father and his relationship with Wen Xu was very good, although of course it does not come without it's own difficulties and conflicts at times. (Considering how terrible all the other fathers are, statistically there should be one good one, right?)

There are other random headcanons I could throw in here but I will finish this off by saying I don't have a solid headcanon on who is Wen Yuan's father, although I can see the poetic appeal of it being Wen Xu. Wen Xu burned down Cloud Recesses and said the Wen would help the Lan grow from the ashes. Wen Yuan grows up there as if reborn from the ashes by help of the Lan, given a new name and family, too.

(That Wen Chao is explicitly given a wife in canon makes me headcanon him as Wen Yuan's father though, as I also like Wei WuXian protecting Wen Chao's son for my own dark delight~)

I also tend to think of Wen Xu as someone running around and playing around and not quite ready to settle down. But Wen Xu with a wife and a family of his own? I would love to see it!

#asked from above #anon #wen xu #mdzs thoughts

[lesbiansluffy]

Hi what are your favorite ships in mdzs? Please elaborate (:

okay so here goes (feel free to rant to me about your favorite ships as well pls!):

wangxian (lan wangji/wei wuxian): obviously. they’re everything. they’re soulmates. their love defied everything and they overcame any obstacle. they fought so hard for each other and they actually won in the end. they did it. they would die for each other. they would live for each other. they adore each other. their love is just beautiful ❤️

xiyao (lan xichen/jin guangyao) & nielan (nie mingjue/lan xichen): i'm gonna count them as one because just like how lan xichen himself can’t decide which of these two he likes better neither can i really dsfdghfds. lan xichen looks between jgy and nmj and his brain is like “twink? or hunk?? twink with dimples? or hunk that could bend me in half?” and honestly, that’s valid. when i look at xiyao i'm like “i can have a little problematic ship.....as a treat.” lxc had so much genuine respect for jgy and they clearly cared about each other a lot which is why lxc was so devastated by jgy's betrayal. and when i see nielan i just think “the trust they had in each other. the mutual respect. the love.” nie mingjue was so into lxc and believed him so much that he swore a sacred oath of brotherhood with a man he not only despised but also did not trust. just. i like them both a lot for very different reasons but i do also like them as a very chaotic ot3 😏

yanxuan (jiang yanli/jin zixuan): dumbass hets can have a little rights. as a treat.

sangcheng (nie huaisang/jiang cheng): okay you know how i love both jiang cheng and nie huaisang, i ranted about them already. but i also really liked their dynamic when they were both students at cloud recesses. i know they were always a trio and nhs also seemed closer with wwx than jc most of the time but i firmly adore nhs & wwx's friendship and also! wwx spent a lot of time with lwj when they were still students so my hc is that jc and nhs hang out without wwx a lot and fall in love maybe?? i also headcanon jc as asexual just so you know! and i always found it sad that we don’t get to see nhs and jc interact at all after the timeskip even though they were at the very least friends by association through wwx. but i imagine that they both had to grow up too fast, both becoming clan leaders at very young ages and we know how important it was for jc to appear as a strong professional leader while i believe that nhs was very busy plotting revenge for his brother's death so i guess it makes sense. it's still sad though

xuexiao (xiao xingchen/xue yang): “i can have a little problematic ship. as a treat.” taken to its most extreme. just. the romanticism of ruining the life of the guy you're crushing on and then being confused when he decides he cannot live with what he's done. terrific.

#asks #anonymous #<33 #there you go anonnie! #the untamed #mdzs