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dragondreamers · 4 months

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RHAENICENT + EYES

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rinadragomir · 2 years

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“I am six-and-seventy years old. I have known Viserys longer than any who sit at this table and I will not believe that he said this on his deathbed, alone, with only the boy's mother as a witness. This is seizure! It is theft! It is treason!"

#ONLY HIM #lyman beesbury #hotd #house of the dragon #the green council

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driften-sea-snake · 2 years

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*rhaenys targaryen committing the westerosi equivalent of a terrorist attack on a sports stadium*

her gays: honestly, slay,

#me included #hotd #house of the dragon #hotd spoilers #the green council #rhaenys targaryen #alicent hightower #aegon ii targaryen #otto hightower #helaena targaryen #aemond targaryen #meleys

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myfandomprompts · 1 year

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#for scientific purposes only

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unleashthelion · 1 year

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#just aemond targaryen being all warm and cozy in front of the fireplace

#house of the dragon #aemond targaryen #aemondtargaryenedit #1.09 #the green council #hotdedit #asoiafedit #gotedit #gameofthronesedit #houseofthedragonedit #targnation #targaryensource #ewan mitchell #aemond stannies #ewanmitchelledit #gifs #my ps stuff #my ps creations

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dyingroses · 1 year

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House of the Dragon + text posts and stuff

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lunamond · 4 months

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"And yet you toil still in service to men. Your father, your husband, your son. You desire not to be free, but to make a window in the wall of your prison. Have you ever imagined yourself on the Iron Throne?"

Rhaenys Targaryen, Ep 9

There are a lot of moments in Hotd that are quite dumb. But this is probably one of my most hated quotes in the whole show.

What does Rhaenys even mean by this?

"You toil in service of men"???

Ehm, Rhaenys?? That's literally all you've been doing this whole season?!

There could definitely have been a version of Rhaenys (based on the book) who is ambitious and focused on her own power, but that is absolutely not show!Rhaenys. Throughout the show, Rhaenys continuously helps Corlys to advance his various schemes to build his legacy.

Not her or even their legacy, no, it's all about HIS legacy.

She is even willing to sacrifice her children for this purpose (marrying Laena to Viserys, and Laenor to Rhaenyra). And while she is critical of this both times, she still goes along with her husband’s demands.

Her behaviour perfectly lines up with what Alicent says:

“We do not rule, but we may guide the men that do.”

And then the most offensive parts:

"You desire not to be free, but to make a window in the wall of your prison."

Ok? What should Alicent do then? Just casually dismantle the entire system of patriarchy?

This line is just utterly baffling to me. It would be one thing if this moment revealed a deep internal bias on Rhaenys' part, but based on the way this entire scene is framed and discussed by the fandom, it seems to be meant as a badass moment in which Rhaenys really calls out Alicent.

But, if we take this prison metaphor a bit further:

If Westerosi patriarchy is the prison and Alicent crowning her son and exerting power only through her influence over him is merely a window, then what does that mean for every Targaryen dragonriding princess or queen that have come before her?

What have they done to dismantle this prison?

I'm personally confused about what exactly Rhaenys is calling Alicent out for? Is she criticising Alicent for not elevating other women? Is she criticising her for not breaking herself out and seizing power?

If it is the former, then Rhaenys is being quite hypocritical, considering that Rhaenyra, in the previous episode, just convinced her to give Driftmark to Lucerys instead of Baela.

Rhaenys herself has scarcely done anything to liberate herself, her daughter or her granddaughter.

If it is the latter, then this is quite tone deaf, considering Rhaenys is part of the ruling dynasty, almost became ruling queen, and in her big show of defiance is literally breaking through the ground massacring hundreds on a dragon.

Rhaenys calling out another woman who has none of these things for not breaking free of these constraints while she herself couldn’t even manage it is quite frankly dumb as hell.

"Have you ever imagined yourself on the Iron Throne?"

This last sentence is probably the dumbest part of this entire quote.

I'm quite honestly baffled by what Rhaenys is even supposed to mean with this. Is she asking if Alicent ever considered ruling through her husband/son? Then, yeah, that's literally what she is trying to do.

But if Rhaenys is asking if Alicent imagined herself literally sitting the throne in her own right.

Like, no? Alicent is only a consort?! Should she do a coup? Overthrow the Targaryen dynasty?

Ultimately, this scene is just really indicative of Hotd's greatest flaw. The writers are aware that the driving source of conflict in both Alicent and Rhaenyra's lifes is the misogyny they experience, but not enough to comprehend this struggle in a nuanced and complicated way.

So instead, they end up putting their female characters in anti female oppression and pro oppression categories.

Either they're rebellious punk rock and not like other girls, or they are a prudish trade wife and are part of women for trump. Either they're Team Black or Team Green.

This is just super disappointing because for one feudal patriarchy doesn't work like that, but it also takes away all sympathy from the women who don't have the ability for open defiance out.

In the end, the show is more concerned with giving the "good" women, badass girlboss moments, showing how they defy the system.

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weirwoodweb · 2 years

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"my husband would've desired his mercy to be shown to his daughter!"

"your husband? Or you, his daughter's childhood companion?"

#please just give alicent her rhaenyra #her COMPANION #she just wants her gf #alicent hightower #rhaenyra targaryen #house of the dragon #hot d #rhaenicent #the green council #olivia cooke #milly alcock #emma d'arcy #koi drew

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bbygirl-aemond · 7 months

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thinking about how alicent is the only person who tells rhaenys she should have been queen without having something to gain from doing so. sure, corlys says rhaenys should have been queen, but we see again and again that power is his top priority and rhaenys has got to know that if it didn't bring corlys personal gain, there's no saying he would believe that. sure, her children have probably told her that, but again it's difficult to divorce that from the power they would have gained.

for alicent, it's entirely the opposite. she would have less power if rhaenys had become queen, because her husband would be a prince instead of king. and yet.

and yet.

i just think it's very telling. i mean, eve best also point blank says the same thing, so it's not just me. she says this makes rhaenys "look at alicent for probably the first time." it makes rhaenys "take alicent seriously." it makes her "quite impressed by [alicent's] strength and tenacity." it makes her see that alicent is "remarkable."

#just two women seeing and being seen by each other genuinely for the first time in their lives #i know i have unique takes about this scene but i could genuinely watch it a thousand times i think #it's so much more nuanced than most people take it to be #i don't think rhaenys was trying to one-up alicent it was all about connection about commiseration #alicent hightower #alicent #rhaenys targaryen #rhaenys #hotd #house of the dragon #hotd episode 9 #the green council

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mejcinta · 9 months

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If You Could Rewrite Episode 9 (The Green Council), How Would You Do It?

1. To start off I would have Alicent deny Viserys a chance to speak on his death bed. I would have Alicent interrupt him, unleashing all the things she wanted to say that went ignored.

She should look Viserys in the face and tell him no matter what it's their son that will sit the throne. It's what she must do to survive. I'd slash the prophecy utterance. Viserys dies knowing of the failure he's been to her and his children.

2. Alicent leads the Green Council just like in the book determined to protect her family from Daemon by sitting Aegon on the throne.

She might feel just a little regret for sending off Viserys so harshly, but I will have the people around her, Criston or Aemond especially, remind her that she owed Viserys nothing.

3. Ser Criston 'The Kingmaker' Cole happens just like in the books but including Aemond in the search as well. Aegon is told his family will be wiped out if he doesn't accept the crown.

4. Before the coronation, we see Helaena huddling with her children, sensing impending doom. She's uneasy, but also at conflict with herself, knowing she needs to be Queen so that her children can stand a chance at surviving.

Meanwhile, Aegon goes to Viserys' chambers, angry at everything. At Visery's neglect and these huge shoes he's left him to fill, upset at Rhaenyra and Daemon and the risk they pose to his family. I need Aegon to break down Viserys' LEGO set/Valyrian model in a burst of rage and confusion and anxiety.

Afterwards he goes to Helaena who is still with their children. They stare at each other knowing time has come. Their lives, their arranged marriage, their children...it has always been leading up to to this. They are doomed but they have no choice.

5. At the coronation, Alicent places her crown on Helaena's head just like in the books.

6. I would keep the Rhaenys scene just to show off Sunfyre and Dreamfyre's matching fierceness. They send Meleys away in an instant and the Greens use her blunder to make themselves heroes in the smallfolk's eyes.

7. Aegon and Sunfyre fly over King's Landing as a signal to the people that Rhaenys crimes have not been forgotten. That they will be avenged. It's a way of establishing Aegon as a capable leader. They are now officially at war.*

* As for Daeron, I would have Otto send a raven to Oldtown to inform him of the potential war in the horizon*

#what's your Headcanon?#hotd headcanon #house of the dragon #hotd #house of the dragon season 2 #the green council #alicent hightower #aegon ii targaryen #helaena targaryen #aemond targaryen #criston cole #otto hightower #daeron targaryen

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greenqueenhightower · 8 months

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The way they wrote episode 6 in hotd still doesn’t make any sense to me. The Alicent who calls Rhaenyra to her chambers to inspect baby Joffrey, is that the same Alicent as the Alicent in episode 9, “The Green Council,” who silences everyone who dares to threaten Rhaenyra?

I still don’t know what the writers wanted to show with that scene from episode 6. My only —far fetched— thought is trauma response; basically Alicent responding the way that Viserys used to respond to her pregnancies/births, by having his children brought to him. And the more I think of it, the more I find it plausible because, it’s highly unlikely that Viserys would attend another birth after he botched and killed Aemma. So, what if he was demanding that Alicent’s babies be brought to him, and when Alicent found herself in a position of power, she felt entitled to demand the same?

(Also it might be a coincidence, but episode 9 is titled as “The Princess and the Queen,” and it begins with what looks like a second pilot for the second half of the season where we meet Rhaenyra and Alicent again. Only this time, Alicent has matured to a queen, and has learned to display the authority of one).

If my assumption is correct, it makes the interaction between Rhaenyra and Alicent when Rhaenyra presents baby Joffrey all the more powerful, because it's as if Rhaenyra is telling Alicent that “I could never have been you; I just gave birth and I'm standing on my own two feet right in front of you, while you let your own children be taken away from you.”

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dragondreamers · 21 days

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200 DAYS OF HOUSE TARGARYEN ↳ day 16: aemond targaryen and helaena targaryen in the green council

#200 days of targaryens #house of the dragon #helaena targaryen #aemond targaryen #helaenatargaryenedit #aemondtargaryenedit #houseofthedragonedit #hotdedit #s1 #1x09 #the green council #*

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hotcupofdragons · 2 years

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"All hail His Grace, Aegon, Second of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm."

AEGON TARGARYEN in HOUSE OF THE DRAGON (2022-) s01e09 | “The Green Council”

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driften-sea-snake · 2 years

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alicent: ring the bell when you have an answer

rhaenys when she has an answer:

#hotd #house of the dragon #hotd spoilers #rhaenys targaryen #meleys #alicent hightower #otto hightower #aegon ii targaryen #the green council

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rhaenin-time · 4 months

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Calling Rhaenyra "entitled" and "lazy" is so weird

Too often I see people saying that the Dance is Rhaenyra's fault because she didn't defend her claim enough while Viserys was alive. That she was "lazy" and "entitled" and "took their support for granted."

Usually I see counterarguments that point out it's weird to make Rhaenyra the villain for not doing enough to not get usurped by the usurpers, especially because this is so often a point made by people defending the usurpers. And also, you don't see these words thrown at the Stark men, even though their conflicts were written to parallel each other. Hmm... I wonder what the difference is.

But I don't see enough people asking what should be the obvious question:

Why were the usurpers so BAD at usurping?

If you're the one doing the usurping, doesn't the onus fall on YOU to ensure you have enough support? If you end up not having enough support to ensure a clean victory, doesn't the bloody war fall on YOU?

Why don't the people doing the usurping, even if they believe it's for 'the greater good,' not get called lazy or entitled for taking it for granted that lords not even pledged to them would flock to support them?

You know, aside from the Council who just assumed they'd slaughter Rhaenyra's line as they slept. In which case... Rhaenyra was definitely in the right to hide away at Dragonstone.

#hotd #house of the dragon #hotd critical #hotd alicent #rhaenyra targaryen #anti team green #the green council #hotd sexism #queen rhaenyra

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dyingroses · 1 year

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House of the Dragon + text posts and stuff

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