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greenqueenhightower · 8 months
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Just imagine how many times this has happened--how many sleepless nights had she had thinking that "he might call me to his bed any minute now" and being unable to do anything about it. She couldn’t outrightly tell him “no” because he was the king, and she needed to have heirs because this is what Viserys married her for. Can you imagine the anxiety?! knowing that you’d be r!ped any minute now, and having NO ONE to talk to about it (bc I’m sure Otto didn’t care). But this is not just anxiety; this is abuse, this is feeling powerless, this is disgust, this is emotional turmoil, this is on a whole other level and this was Alicent’s everyday reality.
my poor girl </3
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greenqueenhightower · 1 month
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Alicent's Fifth Child, The Realm
Or a rant about where I think Alicent's character development in S2 is going:
"All my life, I've endeavored to serve both my house and the realm, and somehow none of it matters."
Wow. Just wow.
If that line alone does not give us insight into the character development of Alicent in S2 I don't know what else will. To me, it very well encapsulates the idiosyncrasy of Alicent in that moment of turmoil that befalls the realm for which she is seen as the prime instigator. And yet, she only wished for peace and happiness for the realm as its Queen. But at the same time, and ever since her children were born, it is as if her interests were divided, if not equally, among her children and the realm. Her interests as a mother and her duty towards her children battle with her interests as the realm's Queen when she is married to Viserys. And we see the constant struggle to balance the two dichotomies of service in S1: Alicent wanting to support Rhaenyra's claim and yield to Viserys' wishes, but at the same time feeling extremely worried about her children's safety and future. It is, at times, almost impossible for Alicent to choose whom to serve because she aches for her children but also wants the realm to prosper. Heck, she wants all her children and the realm to prosper and survive. So when she installs Aegon to the throne, she truly does believe that she is finally bridging the gap between the two extremes. That she is performing her duties towards both the realm and her family.
This is, of course, a more thoughtful decision than any of the ones Viserys ever proposed. Alicent is used to thinking alone for the survival of her family as well as what's best for the realm because she learned early on that her children were the weakest link in the equation. Since she equated the realm to her children and viewed and cared for it as her child, it was much easier for her to make a decision that excluded Rhaenyra. Because a) she wasn't her child, b) Rhaenyra never placed herself under the jurisdiction of true servitude to the realm to view it as "a sibling" and c) Rhaenyra had never shown any sisterly affection to any of her siblings and Alicent's kids. So in Alicent's equation, Rhaenyra had to be subtracted for her two goals to be reconciled: protection and survival for her children and the realm.
And yet, all this inner struggle, all this sacrifice, all the pain she went through, "somehow none of it matters" when she realizes soon enough that war and destruction and further pain and suffering are just around the corner to upset the balance she believed in and tried to build. It is a truly harrowing thought, that all she endured and all she hoped for... could prove to be all for nothing.
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greenqueenhightower · 8 months
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Ok but when Viserys was giving his "let us set aside our grievances" speech and everyone was called to toast one another, I was expecting him to start it off by saying something nice to Alicent that would show his gratitude for all her care and attention, but NO.
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greenqueenhightower · 7 months
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"For the sake of this old man who loves you all" has to be the most annoying thing Viserys ever said. Why didn't anyone throw their wine at his face the moment he said it? This is a time when no one should be restrained by table manners.
Dracarys on Viserys.
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greenqueenhightower · 7 months
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“oh hi, are you a hotd fan? why do you support [enter oppressed female who has been abused and manipulated all her life and who is struggling to survive and is finally in a position where she can decide and act for herself in order to protect herself and her family]?”
I mean, isn’t it self explanatory?
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greenqueenhightower · 7 months
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Rhaenyra x Alicent Power Struggle--Thoughts:
Rhaenyra would have done everything to get out of a situation where she would be forced to do something she didn’t want to do (like having sex with an old man, also her friend’s father) but see, this is where the difference between Rhaenyra and Alicent lies, because Rhae was brought up to be stronger and ofc her personality itself is different and she knows her self worth. Alicent sadly doesn’t know her self-worth. She’s been living as a foreigner away from her culture and her home and her only connection to the palace world is Rhaenyra. Growing up, (and this is so obvious in the first episodes) Rhaenyra is Alicent’s whole world. Her whole life revolves around Rhaenyra (and that’s the main reason I ship Rhaenicent lol). Whereas Rhaenyra’s world is much more vast, and Alicent plays only a small part in it. Rhaenyra’s world is the dragons, the Targaryen dynasty, speaking Valyrian, taking part in royal duties etc.
So ofc Alicent is much more easily manipulated and she feels way more betrayed when they become distant because her whole world has crumbled and fallen apart. Before the green dress moment and while she is being pressured by Otto to visit Viserys, you can tell she is totally alone and needs to talk to someone (her best friend) about it but she can’t. And yet, Rhae, her bff, doesn’t seem to notice what she’s going through and that hurts even more. So Rhae feels betrayed because Alicent never told her about what she was doing and because she thinks that Alicent instigated this relationship with her father, and Alicent feels betrayed because her friend immediately cut her out of her life without giving her the benefit of the doubt, or showing her that she wanted to listen to her and know what she was going through. So it’s all a misunderstanding really, which is why the dance of the dragons is so tragic. It could all have been avoided had the friends made peace with one another.
As for when she called baby Joffrey to her, Alicent was testing and pushing the boundaries in my opinion, the same way that Rhae has been testing and pushing the boundaries by having three illegitimate children. Alicent didn’t mean any harm, but it was a power move from her side, telling Rhae that “you know what? I’m the queen ffs and I can demand whatever I want, the same way you sleep around and have three illegitimate kids and you demand that we blind ourselves to the truth.” It’s basically a power struggle, a tug of war between the two to show one another the level of influence they have. Alicent didn’t have vile intentions. It was all to send a message to Rhae that first of all, she’s not dumb, and second of all, that she can play the game of power (or thrones if need be) equally well.
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greenqueenhightower · 8 months
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for season 2 I want slow burn Rhaenicent to really burn. Like for a start Rhaenyra telling Daemon that Alicent might have put Aegon to the throne but that she would have never wanted for Lucerys to die, and asking him to let her deal with her alone. Alicent trying to apologize for this act somehow, by sending ravens or envoys. Rhaenyra abducting Alicent with Syrax (finally on dragon back!) and them having a moment when all the anger and rage and passion and tears are let out after which they are not slightly better than before but at least they would have had the chance to face each other far away from peering eyes and will give the fandom the angst and rhaenicent content to talk about for months after, lol.
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greenqueenhightower · 8 months
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not the show’s own producers saying about Larys that “he’s the only one who listens to [Alicent] properly” or “the only one who sees her truly” and the one “WHO SEES WHAT SHE’S GOING TO BE” like excuse you?! how is that an objective personification and description of the characters? Why are they framing Alicent’s character progression as a monster-in-the-making?
I literally hate watching “Inside the Episode” because of the glorification and sanctification of Rhaenyra, the producers’ exonerating views towards team black, their comments about Alicent, and the fact that Olivia Cooke doesn’t get to talk about her character. Thank goodness Emma D’Arcy was there and we heard some truths.
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greenqueenhightower · 7 months
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If you think that rhaenyra is unfit to rule, do you believe aegon will be a better ruler?
Hi there, thanks for the ask :)
Not necessarily, no, I don’t believe that Aegon will be a better ruler with regards to everyone involved: his family and the realm. Book Aegon is not that competent a leader, but neither is Rhaenyra. Having said that, I don’t think that Rhaenyra is unfit to rule; I think that she could have had the potential to become a great ruler and heir had her useless father prepared her and guided her and actually practically supported her, but that is the whole point: neither Rhaenyra nor Aegon are badass rulers, yet neither are monsters. The whole Dance is a tragedy (as most wars are) and should be viewed as that. What I am saying is that the show shouldn’t be partial towards any faction or team, (presenting one side as heroes and the others as villains) because it’s a WAR. Both sides are losers in the end, and the house of the dragon is tore down by itself. So, really, I wish that the writers realize that we don’t wish to see any glorification of either party, but a mature representation of what it means to be a leader who’s human but who also makes mistakes and pays for it.
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greenqueenhightower · 7 months
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I’ve heard Alicent’s “no, but he would be partial to me” comment about her father be used against her before but actually, after having failed to see an ounce of interest from Viserys about the position and the future of her children and after having to endure his constant disregard of the danger his own parenting puts them in, she very much deserved a person to look after her and her children’s interests.
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greenqueenhightower · 8 months
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no, but the stupidest thing Viserys ever said was the "I had a black mare once" bs. the truth is that genetics work differently in animals but just because one thing works for horses, it doesn't mean it's the same for humans. and when something is common knowledge and plain fact, if you can't really see it my man, then you losing your eye was providential because I'm definite the seven were screaming "hubris!" every time Viserys opened his mouth
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greenqueenhightower · 7 months
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you guys want another sansa to cry about it’s so obvious
I’m guessing by “we” you mean team green, or Alicent fans, or Alicent and Sansa fans?
First off, Alicent isn’t Sansa. Sansa is her own character, and her fans and I love her for being Sansa. The fact that you are equating two different and distinct characters with their own values, personal drives, and motivations only to devalue both shows that you don’t understand either of these characters. “We” or certainly I don’t want another Sansa when Sansa exists. Neither do I believe that show!Alicent is Sansa 2.0 just because they have some parallels. I like Alicent for who she is, and for all the subtle details that differentiate her from Sansa. I like both characters not for their similarities, but for being their own UNIQUE person.
Second, by using the phrase “crying about” you’re equating showing sympathy, compassion, and trying to understand a complex and abused character with “victimizing” them. “We” don’t cry about either Sansa or Alicent to victimize them, when they are already victims. But again, this is such a shortsighted and narrow view of the way the fandom sees the characters. Sansa &/or Alicent fans don’t see Sansa or Alicent ONLY as victims. That is not the main and sole portrayal of them in the fandom. Rather, it explores how both these women can navigate trauma, make decisions with regard to the common good, lead, and rule a kingdom among many others.
Equating Sansa to Alicent so that it’s easier for you not to try to understand or think deeply about either character independently is a convenient way to hate them both—you don’t have to justify it even to yourself, as long as you can “dumb them down” by putting them in the same box.
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