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darklinaforever · 3 days

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greenqueenhightower · 8 months

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Welcome to yet another episode of DISTURBING Things I Notice in HOTD:

Today’s installment is on bloodlust and dermatillomania (tw!) as expressed by our two key figures of the Dance, Rhaenyra and Alicent, and their similarities between Daemon and Criston respectively (pls bear with me on this).

First up, even though we have seen many scenes of bloodshed in the show, I want to mainly talk about the two scenes of bloodlust we have seen with Rhaenyra in episode 3 where she kills a boar, and with Alicent when she cuts Rhaenyra's arm at Driftmark.

Why, though, do I say bloodlust? Because it describes a desire for bloodshed and carnage, often aroused in the heat of battle or the moment, leading to uncontrolled slaughter and torture. The perfect example of this description is Criston's killing of Joffrey at Leanor's & Rhaenyra's wedding because it was moved by a desire for bloodshed further motivated by Criston's emotional turmoil, it was aroused in the heat of the moment because Joffrey provoked him, and, most importantly, he had lost control. This means that Criston is not generally like that; had he not lost control, he would not have performed the act.

The exact OPPOSITE is Daemon's cold-hearted killing of Vaemond: there was no underlying desire, the moment was not heated, nor was he personally attacked, and he did not display any loss of control. This means that he did not need any provocation to perform the act. In other words, bloodlust and bloodshed are in general part of Daemon's character.

I think that the analysis of these two extremes helps in understanding where Alicent and Rhaenyra lay in the spectrum of bloodlust.

Starting off with the scene at the hunt where she slays the boar, Rhaenyra ticks all the boxes for bloodlust: a desire for bloodshed because of the hunt, arousal in the heat of the moment because she was attacked by the beast, which then results in uncontrolled slaughter. Yet, that doesn’t seem to have any effect on Rhaenyra, as we see her walking back to the camp, completely drenched in blood. Her sight stuns and terrifies spectators, Alicent included, but Rhaenyra's detached attitude toward carnage resembles that of Daemon's. I am not saying that bloodshed and carnage are part of her character to the extent that they are a part of Daemon’s, but she and he both display a higher tolerance to the sight, thought and feel of the act.

Let's get now to the scene at Driftmark and the confrontation between Alicent and Rhaenyra. Alicent, too, ticks all three of the boxes for bloodlust at that moment: a desire for bloodshed because of the maiming of her son, arousal in the heat of the moment because her concerns are not taken seriously, and loss of control that results in obtaining the Valyrian steel dagger and cutting Rhaenyra's arm. However, Alicent shows how horrified she is that the situation has gotten out of control, and she drops the dagger. Later on, we see her remorse which mirrors Criston's, who wanted to commit suicide. They both understood the lengths of their actions and were devastated.

And what about Rhaenyra when she gets cut in that scene? She is once again oblivious to the pain, staring Alicent dead in the eyes which terrifies Alicent even more. I have a few reasons as to why.

First of all, Alicent suffered from dermatillomania growing up, which is a mental health condition where a person compulsively picks or scratches their skin, causing injuries or scarring. Also known as excoriation disorder or skin-picking disorder, this condition falls under the category of obsessive-compulsive disorders (OCDs) and can be triggered by anxiety. There are several scenes where we see that same anxiety permeate Alicent and her resort to dermatillomania, as early as episode 1 (this is where her brother Gwayne is fighting with Daemon):

What science says is that such behavior is anxiety-induced, a clinical condition, and even though she could stop it if she chose to, it is not that easy or simple. Alicent was addicted to the numbing pain as a relief from her anxiety but she loathed herself for its destructive nature. She was often made fun of it by her father who told her that she was "destroying herself." We see that as her confidence grew in the later episodes, and when she was released from the strenuous puppeteering of Otto, she was able to overcome the habit.

To my eyes, this is why it is shocking for Alicent to a) cause pain to Rhaenyra and b) to see Rhaenyra oblivious to such pain. The fact that Rhaenyra doesn’t even flinch, when Alicent hated herself for causing harm to her own body for years and when she already hates herself for losing her temper, confirms to her Rhaenyra’s absolute callousness. Yes, she, who lusts after what she wants and knows no limits, and whose ambition runs thicker than blood, does feel entitled to Aemond’s eye.

In fact, Alicent barely recognizes Rhaenyra at this moment. Alicent has just become afraid of herself, and of the newly discovered bloodlust she didn’t know she had, and seeing Rhaenyra show no reaction to the pain, Alicent becomes doubly afraid of Rhaenyra. The one who stares deeply into her eyes and shows her that she cannot hurt her. Who tells her that she can take in much more. Who is not like Alicent, to become consumed by pain. Rhaenyra is a warrior, and she is capable of showing her heartlessness when necessary. And that’s when Alicent understands that she doesn’t know Rhaenyra anymore. Alicent becomes even more afraid of her, and the person she has become. The person she could potentially turn into when provoked.

This is what absolutely terrifies yet humanizes Alicent, who already hated herself for causing injury to herself, and who hates herself now for causing injury to Rhaenyra. Yet Rhaenyra won't let her hurt or pain show like Alicent does, and she is used to causing injury without feeling anything; just like Daemon.

*added the coloring to keep track of the many lines of thought happening here

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hotcupofdragons · 2 years

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I swear to ward the Queen with all my strength, and give my blood for hers. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall guard her secrets, obey her commands, ride at her side, and defend her name and honor.

All hail Her Grace, Rhaenyra Targaryen , the rightful QUEEN of the Seven Kingdoms!

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themotherofblood · 1 year

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You know what I find terrifying,

Alicent during episode 7’s brawl was charging straight for a 6 year old Lucerys to cut his eye out herself. If nobody stopped her (like Rhaenyra getting in her way)

She would have actually held that child down and cut his eye out; and then greens claim that Rhaenyra is worse than Alicent…?

Rhaenyra never ordered blood&cheese, Daemon did. Rhaenyra could have hurt Haelena herself if she was as mad as the greens claim she is.

The other two kids of Haelena died from war battles that their knights failed to protect them from, and Jaehera met the fate that Aegon too might have ventured had Baela and Rhaena not been alive.

#team blacks #alicent hightower #anti aemond targaryen #anti aegon ii targaryen #anti greens #the hightowers #rhaenyra targaryen #daemon targaryen #the dance of the dragons #hotd 1x07

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soyboywenzie · 2 years

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green stans: rhaenyra is a horrible person!! she birthed BasTards and is trying to put them on the throne! that’s TREASON!!! she’s TERrible. she gets away with EVERYTHING!! UgHHh

also green stans: ignores that fact that aegon has bastards by the women he either assaulted or sleeted with despite the fact that he has a wife, also ignores the fact that he enjoys watching said bastards fight to the death among each other. ALSO ignores the fact that crisption has gotten away with everything since he’s been on the kings guard.

ALSO green stans: rhaenys is terrible for murdering those people.

then ignores that alicent also just murdered a bunch of people.

edit: I’m simply talking abt the hypocrisy of green stans. don’t care if you like them or not, really but i did not like the whole bastard talk that only resulted in y’all looking stupid. also don’t like daemon. anti daemon from day one.

#anti team greens #hotd #house of the dragon #hotd 1x09 #like blacks ain’t the best but THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE GREENS #bug girl the only good one and she loses her mind because of that one eyed bitch who everyone is so sure he’s in love with #alicent hightower #fuck the hightowers #aegon targaryen #aemond targaryen #helaena targaryen #y’all are a joke #team blacks #team black forever #team black

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xsignedmsriss · 2 years

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I really hope Rhaenys and Corlys were informed of the plan as well, but I highly doubt it. And if thats the case, I hope Laenor will send a raven and not leave his parents with that grief. But this episode was amazing!

#hotd #house of the dragon #hotd spoilers #rhaenyra targaryen #daemon targaryen #daemon x rhaenyra #laenor velaryon #rhaenys targaryen #corlys velaryon #team blacks

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reignof-fyre · 1 year

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Wassup y'all, my bestie has some fire as fuck fics you all have to read. They're so fuckin good you have no idea. So go on over to Ao3 and read them and have your eyeballs blessed like i have 🙌

A Hate so Sweet, A Love so Bitter by butterflies_and_dragons

Okay, so, Rhaenyra's firstborn twins are Daemon's; Jacaerys and Visenya. They're bamf and adorable, especially Visenya. She's such a badass I want to legit marry her. She and Aemond were bffs but ya know, things happen and they're great and it's great and READ IT NOW THANKS I WILL HYPE THIS FIC UNTIL IM BLUE IN THE FACE IN THIS ESSAY I WILL -

The Conqueror

THIS IS ABOUT AEGON I, VISENYA I, AND RHAENYS I - AND GUYS IT MAY ONLY HAVE A FEW CHAPTERS BUT THIS SHIT IS FUCKING BRILLIANT and I love it because they have a baby sister, Daenaera, and she's so sweet and cute and there's family fluffies and I perish thinking about it. Serves Targaryen Realness.

They also have Bloodline!!!!!!

Percy Jackson has a twin, and they're all so bamf and it's found family and goes real deep into Greek mythology and Camp Half-blood is one giant family and I love it and I'll scream it from the ROOFTOPS how brilliant and addictive this fic is!!!

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mesillusionssousecstasy · 2 years

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House of the Dragon 1x08: The Blacks - The true Targaryen House.

#hotd #house of the dragon #hotd 1x08 #team blacks #house targaryen #daemyra #they deserved so much more #they deserve a happy ending #prince daemon targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen #princess rhaenyra targaryen

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drogonthered · 2 years

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I think only Aemond has a true Targaryen silhouette.

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sanktasansa · 2 years

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So, if you think being a bastard or being called a bastard shouldn't be a bad thing in the world of Westeros (as it isn't in our modern society) and shame The Greens for thinking so: shouldn't that mean you think Jace and Jake overreacted when they attacked and maimed Aemond for calling them "Strongs"? Shouldn't that mean you have contempt for Rhaenarya for pretending her children are not from a man she was not married to? Her duplicity upholds the idea that children born within the time of their biological parents being married are better than, more legitimate than children born outside of their parents being married, so shouldn't you hate her for being so patriarchal?

Or...do you recognize the worldbuilding of ASOIAF when it comes to certain characters but not others? That's called hypocrisy and worthless literary analysis, FYI.

#house of the dragon #hotd #team blacks #team greens #bastards

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darklinaforever · 2 days

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greenqueenhightower · 8 months

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RHAENICENT AS ART, VOL.2

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hotcupofdragons · 2 years

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PRINCESS RHAENYS TARGARYEN and MELEYS in HOUSE OF THE DRAGON (2022-) 1.09 | The Green Council

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daisymylove · 1 year

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But he’s our drama queen

#daemon targaryen #wednesday #house of the dragon #wednesday addams #enid sinclair #hotd #queen rhaenyra #team blacks #helaena deserved better #alicent hightower #i stan a friendship #wednesday and enid

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therhaenys · 2 years

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The Black Queen ep 10x1

baby teary eyed hearing the greens threats 🥺

#season finale omggggg #i want to hug her #rhaenyra targaryen #hotd #hotd 1x10 #aaaaaaaaaaaaa #hotd spoilers #house of the dragon #the tears in her eyes 🥺#the betrayal #her father’s passing #they plotting against her #the black council #the black queen #team blacks #dance of the dragons

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xsignedmsriss · 2 years

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If Rhaenyra were a Rhaemond there would be no Green supporters.

Rhaemond would've never been confronted in the gardens about hooking up with his aunt.

No one would question the legitimacy of Rhaemond's sons if they didn't have the same hair as his blonde wife.

Alicent would've never dared to try and make Aegon challenge him. (This would involve Viserys marrying her out of loneliness/need for companionship rather than simply duty).

Rhaemond would never worry about being supplanted by his younger siblings. His voice would always be heard.

He would've never been a cupbearer to the men at the council.

Rhaemond's sons would be fairly trained alongside their uncles by Criston Cole.

Alicent would've never dared to order the eye of Lucerys, let alone cut Rhaemond.

Rhaemond wouldn't need to marry his aunt for more strength but simply because he wants her.

Rhaemond would've never been called a whore.

Viserys wouldn't need to go so hard for Rhaemond because he wouldn't have challenges at every corner in the first place.

The other houses would not have bent the knee to Aegon per Otto's orders.

The cilvilans would not have cheered so loudly at Aegon's crowning because they would actually fear the retaliation of the rightful heir.

If Rhaenyra was a Rhaemond there would be no Green supporters. In fact, there probably would be no Greens at all.

#you can't change my mind #this show and universe has already proven that it is a deeply rooted misogynistic world #i know its just a show but the things we watch and root for are in turn a reflection of life and/or our values #whenever i see someone say why they support the greens its all the same #rhaenyra has bastards or shes lowkey a hoe literally the biggest reason i see the most bcus there really is no other reason #her kids aren't even bastards they are legitimized by the ppl who matter #any way thas it!#hotd #house of the dragon #misogyny #patriarchy #rhaenyra targaryen #rhaenys targaryen #alicent hightower #team blacks

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