#talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

the feeling of having scenes from an anime stuck in your head that isn't even good but you have to remember what it's called because it's driving you insane

#talksss

[elfguys]

#THE WAY HE TALKSSS I GET IT #I FUCKING GET IT!!!!!!!! #ffxiv spoilers

[inc0gnit0-m0de]

OCTOBER FIRSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

#billy talksss

[bleubrri]

IVE BEEN CRYING OVER THE GOJO FIGURE FOR 10 MINUTES HELP ME

#~talksss✮☽˚

[eyesofcuriosity]

“Where are you going? It’s late.”

"Sorry did I wake you up ? " she asked with now slightly visible dark circles around her eyes as she ruffled her now messy hair. Glancing at him, a small grin dances around her lips as she hugs her knees and presses her chin on top of them. "I can't sleep....maybe tea will help, wanna stay insomniac with me tonight?"

#ic #answered #ludjaci: messiah #tea and late night talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

The only age discourse I care about is that for me it makes no sense for Khun to be 17. He helped Maria to become a princess! Even if Endorsi was chosen a few centuries ago and waited to enter the tower while Maria is the newest princess, how did the princess selection go that fast? You're telling me than in a few years at most he met Maria, helped her win, got kicked out of the family, and followed her in the tower? Princess selections must be rare and huge, no way it can all happens so fast.

If Khun is indeed 17, that's all the more crazy seeing the average age of people of the tower. He's a crazy prodigy teenager. Not even 30 and already giving orders to high rankers. That makes no sense but I admit it's funny as hell if true

There was such confusion between translations that I honestly hadn't given the idea that much thought/hadn't followed the debate that closely.

If he really had been that young, my response would have been along the lines of "good for him lol" because that kind of achievement is almost funny at that age. It's doubtful that its true, agreed, but we don't really know the timeline on Endorsi's selection either; SIU doesn't give the timeline that much detail.

You're probably right in that Khun's not that young, but even if he is, I don't think it would make any difference shipping-wise since there's a five-year timeskip after S1 anyway.

#tower of god #talksss #khun aguero agnis #it wouldn't make a difference for ME shipping-wise at least #fandom ask #thank you!

[the-messenger-hawk]

tag people you want to get to know better

Oh hey, Thanks for the tag @hchollym!

Three ships: Might as well drop one from each of my three main fandoms then~ Sokka X Jet (atla), Sora X Vanitas (KH), and Wangnan X Bam (ToG).

First ever ship: God, it's been absolute ages, but probably Yugi X Jou (YGO). What a pull though.

Last song: "Black Sheep" Poor Man's Poison

Last movie: I haven't watched many movies lately tbh. The latest was probably ...Home Alone 2 a couple weeks ago.

Currently reading: My own WIPs mostly. 😓

Currently watching: Nier Automata

Currently consuming: Had some sausage and beans for dinner earlier.

Currently craving: a warm, cream cheese colache... mmm

Tagging: @meliohy, @dimobserver, @nope-the-weeb, @flyinrumble, @proxissima, @venjamin-kingdomhearts and anyone else who wants ta

#thank you! #tag game #about me #talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

its sad that the tog fandom is pretty active on twitter because, I'd like to post art there but also, I hate twitter

#talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

Hello again, so today a sudden thought came to my mind. What if Wangnan had wings made out of his innate Shinsu like Baam. And i thought about it. And i think that his inate Shinsu Wings would be made out of light Shinsu quality and would have a shape of phoenix wings. And so i want to ask your opinion on what Wangnans innate Shinsu Wings would be.

I see you're taking the 'bird-boy wangnan' goof to its logical conclusion; I approve.

But I think--it I had to come up with a design for this idea, it'd be a lot less nice than what you're thinking. I want Zahard's aesthetic to be included here to emphasize his 'prince' connection (and horns), and I'm really on the eldritch kick, so maybe it'd look something like this:

(or at least the frame of the wings should be like this)

Although I don't think he's ever going to get something like this unless some outside force (The Sword?) jumpstarts/unblocks him somehow. His shinsu control is ass even with probable centuries worth of attempts, so it's probably stagnant.

(though I still like the idea of expanding anti-matter as a weapon to be an anti-shinsu concept. It'd be unique and fit with his pre-established theme. I think the fandom is definitely missing the potential behind it.)

#tower of god #tower of god brainworms #tog theory crafting #ja wangnan #talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

Me, looking at all the garbage isekais out there: None of you will ever have what FFX had.

#isekai #ffx #video games #talksss #i was just thinking about this #there are just...so many bad isekais #it's kinda sad

[the-messenger-hawk]

I was just reading a fanfic recently and even though it’s not really something that annoys me or anything, I do wonder where all the ado about ‘singular chef Viole’ came from. ‘Cause from what I can tell, he doesn’t do much more work than anyone else on S&S does on day-to-day.

So a little bit of fanon. 

The majority of the team seem pretty grateful for the housing he shared, and according to Wangnan, most or all of the group pitch in equally with chores. Including food. 

We can assume from this that most of S&S have a day to cook (and are capable enough for Ehwa’s failures to stand out), with Bam taking just one extra day to cover for Ehwa. (Post Zygaena had a brief scene where Horyang was implied to be the cook for that day, and they seemed satisfied.) And according to SIU, Ehwa did eventually get better, enough for the team to celebrate with barbeque days for her turns :)

What I’m getting at here, is that S&S is a socially balanced team. 

#tower of god #team sweet & sour #jue viole grace #yeon ehwa #ja wangnan #talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

A brief look at Immortality and the “Princes” in ToG-

Immortality is kinda an interesting beast in this world, because everyone is aware that it exists, but few people are aware of what exactly it entails or how to obtain it. (Up until Enryu, everyone believed that the Administrators were immortal, but he quickly disproved that.)

The Ten Family Heads and Zahard attained immortality when they reached the highest available Floor, but not because of any special power or blood of theirs, but because they made contracts with the Administrators to become so. Citizens of the Tower simply “do not have the authority” to hurt or kill them. (As a side note, it’s mentioned by Garam that Arlene is also under such a contract, which is why she could not die, but apparently V was not, for some reason. So unless leaving the Tower removed that protection, she should still be alive out there somewhere.) This isn’t common knowledge. Wangnan got ahold of this information somehow, and its discussed again on the Floor of Death, but most people don’t know the nature of the Heads’ immortality. 

(Though I am curious about the relation of these contracts to the Irregulars. The reason why Bam is believed to be able to kill the king is because contracts made in the Tower inherently do not apply to people from outside the Tower. This might be because they're a kind od spell, which also doesn’t work. But what about a being who’s immortality was not based on a contract? What then?)

But how does this tie in the ‘princes’ and are they actually immortal too? Or why?

The first thing is that I’m mostly using ‘prince’ as a shorthand for the three that we’ve seen, since we don’t actually know if that title applies to all of them. Though we’ve seen Karaka with a ring, the only character to ever be referred to by that title is Wangnan; if or how that title is shared is unknown.

-I’ll start with the Boss, since we know the least about him, so he’ll be the easiest the cover: The big thing that sets him apart immediately is that he is old. He’s from the Age of Genesis, so he’s an upwards of thousands of years old, an age range comparable to Jinsung and Dowon, if not older. He comes and goes wherever he pleases and has the resources to sneak into heavily protected places with no issue at all, and is apparently charming enough to instantly convince Maschenny of all people to change her plans to accommodate him. The Boss has a strange manner of speaking, alternating “I” and “we” when referring to himself, possibly hinting at a fractured sense of self? (He claims that he himself is unclear who he is.) -But oh, what is that on his face? Could it be a scar? (it looks like one anyway) Maybe despite the Boss's power, age, and influence, he lacks Wangnan's seamless healing abilities? (tick one little hint down on the possibly-not-immortal checklist.) Something to think about.

-Next is Karaka, the tin man with a bone to pick. Of the three, he is easily the one with the clearest goals, self-awareness, and understanding of the situation (and it made him mad). Although we don't really know how old he is, I'd estimate him somewhere around several thousand years old (1-2 maybe); old for a fresh High Ranker, but an absolute baby for a Slayer. Funnily enough, we have enough information about Karaka's abilities to have a clear answer as to whether he's immortal or not. The answer: he's not! Karaka is durable to an insane degree, and has the ability to reset himself to a previous state when he's in danger, which is a kind of practical immortality. But a lot of this can be attributed to his spelled armor, which was given to him specifically to preserve his life, and Jinsung certainly worried over that exact thing. Not only that, but Karaka has specifically separated his own heart into his World of Darkness hammerspace to protect his one weak spot. I firmly believe that if someone was able to break into that space and target his heart directly, they might be able to actually kill him for real, though that'd be insanely difficult to do (supposedly only Family Heads and Administrators have the power to get in without his permission (potentially a setup to someone much stronger than him actually testing that protection...)). So Karaka's regenerative armor abilities and durability allow him to mimic immortality, but he isn't actually so.

And lastly, the boy with the heart, Wangnan. He's probably the easiest case to argue for the immortal angle, and why the theory that says so is so believable. After all, unlike Karaka, Wangnan does not have any form of protection preventing people from attacking his relatively vulnerable parts and causing major damage to him, but continues to heal from absolutely fatal injuries repeatedly anyway. To Ehwa immolating him in his first appearance to Cassano absolutely destroying him on the Hell Train. (Though it does seem that he heals from fatal injuries noticeably faster than serious non-fatal injuries: i.e. Beta exploding his heart vs Hoaquin nearly taking his hand off. His body working harder to preserve him in those cases?) Worth noting though is that, if Wangnan is immortal, he does not seem to be aware of it at all: he knows and refers to himself as "hard to kill" but also shows that he does think he can die and fears that possibility, especially on the 20th Floor. (This is probably because he keeps suppressing his memories; Wangnan doesn't really want to know why this keeps happening to him.) As mentioned before, he is the only one explicitly referred to as a 'prince.' We don't know what this means. We also don't know why Wangnan is the only one of his kind depicted with horns, and if that has any ties to this ability, or where this ability even came from.

There is so much here about them that we've yet to find out.

#tower of god #tog theory crafting #tog boss #karaka #tog karaka #ja wangnan #tog wangnan #talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

sometimes i am suffused with the impulse to draw something...spicy

#talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

Me, refreshing Ao3: where are my serotonins???

#talksss #i'm just whining a little #fanfiction #about me #fandom stuff #ao3

[the-messenger-hawk]

at this point I really have to write it myself it I ever want a fic where Wangnan finds happiness

#every ship fic its like 'he had a crush except it was unrequited and he ends up alone and broken-hearted' #this is the norm #starting to think... #how much is he actually liked outside of being a punching bag? #talksss

[the-messenger-hawk]

In the most recent chapter where it shows a bunch of people from the revolution as well as the Family Heads, do you think the top figure is Wangnan or Jahad? Cause the former is more fun.

Neither.

It's The Boss.

He's been interfering in everyone's business since the Nest, and it seems like we're seeing more from him lately. Who he actually is however, I'm still not really sure. He's older than Wangnan and Karaka by quite a large margin, so its still unclear what his connection to them is.

#talksss #tower of god #tog spoilers