#so the jurys still out on that one

[good-beanswrites]

My thoughts on how the Milgram mv machine works based on the evidence we have:

(I know there’s been discussion about where exactly the interrogations take place, but wherever they are,) the prisoners are made to sit in a specific chair near the wall that houses the machine.

It’s ordinarily hidden, but the wall panels shift aside to reveal it when the mechanical sounds play in the dramas. As well as the walls moving, the chair transforms to restrain the prisoner and attach whatever it takes to access their brain. The fact that none of the more frightened prisoners try to run or break it makes it seem like they physically cannot. This is why Fuuta sounds so panicked, and why Amane is suddenly helpless in front of Es in their T1 vds.

(My mind conjures very classic sci-fi mad scientist machines with wires, pipes, lights, nodes, needles, etc, but I’d love to hear how other people visualize it.)

In some vds (maybe all? I’d need to check,) you can hear Es take some steps right before their iconic line -- it would make sense that for safety reasons, the power mechanism is placed across the room. Once again it could be anything, but the sound effect makes me think of one of those giant wall-mounted levers you have to pull down.

The voice dramas don’t really provide the type of crime details that an actual interrogation would reveal, and it’s odd that they’re placed before the extraction rather than after Es gets to see the new details. This leads me to believe the machine functions with priming. All Es needs to do is get them talking about their murder, so it’s on their mind.

The video produced is much like a (non-lucid) dream. Even if the prisoners figure out that this is how it works, they can’t control it just by thinking really hard about something else. The murders produce the strongest emotional affect, and that’s what it picks up on. If someone else used the machine, it would default to whatever gave them the strongest emotional reaction in the ~15 minutes beforehand, hence why Es’ video focuses on their daunting task ahead. (The Undercover theory is still a bit loose, though, given the private shots that Es wouldn't have known about). It’s why the videos are usually closely linked to the vd topics/beats. I also like to think that the reason their prisoner colors appear so much is because they’re looking at those colors on their uniform 24/7.

The bell rings to inform Es that it’s the optimal time to use the machine -- the prisoner has been thinking about things for long enough that the video will be about their crime, and if the conversation lasts much longer they’ll start thinking of other things. It’s at a different time for each prisoner because it’s based on the specific conversation. I guess Jackalope is listening in to the interrogation, timing it perfectly. (The only one that kind of messes with this theory is Yonah, because they just keep talking afterwards lol, but it could just show that the interrogation is still in Es’ control.)

Their “Sing your sins” is the final priming nudge to get them to think of their actions as a sin, revealing their guilt.

Once activated, the prisoner enters a sort of trance/sleeping state. It’s very much like REM sleep, with the machine forcibly activating neurons and recording the output. The prisoners have asked Es what they saw, meaning they don’t remember the mvs. I like to think the prisoners do experience the mv in real time, acting as the major version of themself that appears, but can’t remember it afterwards. It’s when you experience a dream, but as soon as you wake up you’re just left with fleeting emotions and memories right on the tip of your tongue.

The video plays immediately upon extraction -- whether on a huge projection or little screen depends on which room it’s in. It simultaneously saves the memory so that Es can rewatch it later (on those old TVs in the jailbreak mix). The machine downloads the song and video together, but requires special parts to retrieve them. The technology is pretty new and fragile, so if one is broken, there might be a delay between when Es can hear the extracted song and see it with the video. (That’s my justification for Kotoko’s delays -- after 9 prisoners the parts wear out, or maybe Mikoto himself overheats it with his complex situation.)

Based on the lack of conversation we get afterwards, I picture Es leaving before the prisoner wakes from the trance. The machine adjusts their brain back to normal before they awaken, restraints freed and able to return to the rest of the prison.

It’s very much like a dream, so it’s not harmful despite the amnesia/head injuries the prisoners have. It does, however, exhaust them. Brain activity alone takes a lot of energy, so forced brain activity with added emotional strain would cause them to feel pretty drained the rest of the day.

#milgram #👍👍 #if theres anything contradictory please lmk -- this is how ive been taking the evidence we have so i definitely want to rethink things if #theres a mistake #but also i just wanna hear what people have been picturing 🤔 #i mentioned it before but the jailbreak tvs really did shift my brain from sleek tech to clunky old scifi vibes #im also still partial to an idea mentioned a long time ago about the prisoners waking up to catch the last few moments of their mv #and how heartbreaking that can be for some #but i feel like it would make more sense if there was no direct interaction after the extraction since es is overwhelmed with different #reactions (from us) and the prisoners themselves are raw with emotion and fatigue #i like the thought of interrogations occuring in that big courtroom (seen in undercover and now deep cover) #but that room seems way too echo-y for the vds to take place in #and it seems overkill to build every cell with moving panel walls and access to the machine #so the jurys still out on that one #(also hehe im still so excited that my oc fits very nicely into all of this but i kept this post 100% canon compliant) #analysis/thoughts

[delicourse]

i miss them a little if im gonna be honest

#mp100 #mob psycho 100 #kageyama shigeo #kageyama ritsu #hanazawa teruki #tome kurata #tsubomi takane #shou suzuki #deliart #i meant for the image to be like. after the end but i also didnt think about the hairstyle changes. sorry...... #also i know i was like shou 100% has dwarf hamsters since he got 2 but u know what i dont care. golden hamster stan for life #im planning on getting one i've been checking out breeders near me so i can get a proper healthy one. there are so many good ones here too #i already am thinking on what color im gonna go for..getting picky even. something like offwhite.. silver pearl.. silver dove.. silver mink #jurys still out on wether im gonna get another female or not #i do love how big ladies get and their intense energy and work ethic. truly the most passionate creatures i've ever come across. inspiring. #but a lazy fluffy guy that just sits around and washes his balls all day does seem easier. less likely to climb my curtains. #i got distracted i love hamsters so much. look at my mop drawing now everyone

[arielluva]

screenshot redraw! though i took creative liberty in making it rain here even though it isnt (yet) in the screenshot bc i thought it'd be cool (i also enjoy drawing water droplets)

there are two versions of the drawing here, the first one is edited for mobile to get it to look closer to my intended colors, while the second one is the original from my computer. the third image here being the original screenshot, lol

#my art #revolutionary girl utena #rgu #juri arisugawa #hate how different the computer vs mobile colors are... the original looks so dark on my phone </3 #my computer always displays colors lighter than they appear so unfortunately a lot of my drawings look darker than intended on mobile #sometimes the difference isnt too bad but this time it was. pretty obvious #hence two versions of the drawing #anyway im very happy with how this turned out #the original screenshot just stuck with me and. im not sure what it is about it that i like so much #but i just really wanted to draw it #still got two other rgu related drawings to finish but at least i got one done #anyways its 3 am... time for me to depart to eepytown #2023

[vampkomori]

ip3 text posts but 80% of it is ratio

#hsr #honkai star rail #aventurine #topaz #dr. veritas ratio #do people just use his full name. i feel so improper we arent that close doctor #the duck one is a lot bigger i love that it just crops perfectly on JUST the duck. hes here for emotional support. until u click on him #im not sure abt the vibes on the public speaking one. what do we think chat. jurys still out on this one

[jaspxr]

alexa, play: Daddy issues by Cudzoo & The Faggettes

#raylan givens #art mullen #justified #justified fx #my love for this show is endless #the jury is still out on whether it has rewatching potential #like that one show I'm obsessed with #but so far I'm having such a blast #it's insane #I haven't had this much fun with a show in years

[canisalbus]

this is a kind of morbid question i guess, but have you thought about the details of machete's assassination? who did it, were they paid off by someone else, how did they kill him, so forth? i've mostly been imagining a julius caesar type situation but im curious if that part of the story took shape in your mind too

I monologued about it a bit in the tags of this post not too long ago (fair warning, it's morbid)

#it wasn't quite as flashy as Caesar's but the themes overlap #the assassin was a professional paid killer but the jury's still out on who commissioned the murder #he thwarted a couple of earlier attempts #at least one old-fashioned stabbing and I've been tempted to give him a mild hemlock poisoning #but the survivability of those is so poor it might be too unrealistic #answered #pomgore

[justreckin]

Pretty sure half the reason I love Erica as much as I do is that she's actually okay. She's gone through shit, but she came out the other side and went "y'know, I'm not down with all this unresolved angst and poor coping mechanisms." Girl went to therapy and worked her shit out.

#erica ortegas #strange new worlds #she's the best #someone needs to look after their mental health okay? #have you seen this ship? #the captain's having a crisis of faith over his future #the first officers an illegal alien #the security officer only just started to go to therapy for her insane childhood trauma #the communications officer is still grieving the recent loss of her family #the science officer has daddy issues and dead sister issues and fiance issues and species issues that he can't talk about #the head nurse has ptsd and abandonment issues coming out her eyeballs #the cmo's probably the closest to being alright but he also just fought a guy to death so jury's out #one engineer's been killed #one engineer's an ancient thief #sorry for the tag rant #look i need more erica ortegas in my life and so do you

[what-is-love-babey-dont-hurt-me]

Tfw you can’t take care of your wings and the first act of compassion you’ve received in eons comes from your rival

#snappy’s art tag #Kirby #meta knight #galacta knight #cw blood #i care them so much #will I ever draw other characters? jury’s still out on that one

[south-sea]

my scruffy little guy. my mismatched little blorbo

#shadow the hedgehog #second chance au #& co #art by sea #every time you look at him he acquires a new scar #every time i think 'i'll just draw this quick thing as a warmup' like this #it's probably so i can see what said new thing might look like #in this case it's 'did he ever regenerate that fang or no' #jury's still out on that one but trends suggest the answer will be no

[moe-broey]

HEARTBREAKING

Worst Dad You Know Has an Extremely Endearing (Now) Reoccurring Character Trait

For further context: this whole FB involved Sharena and Henriette seeking out lockpickers in the Order of Heroes to open this VERY SECURELY locked box from Gustav's room that took Tina's special staff to finally crack open (or rather -- "steal" the contents out of. No one could actually break the lock!)

And the first instance of this!

It makes me wonder if he saved anything related to Sharena..........

#fire emblem #feh #man. henriette's sad portrait w 'yes. he must have' carries so much bittersweet grief. augh #when it comes to sharena idk if i would be more angry if he did save something or if he didn't. i'm almost leaning towards the first though #like. idk if i can even word it but it fucking sucks when you have family that 'loves' you and they do actually genuinely love you #but they just. do it wrong. and fail you severely in the process. you think to yourself it would have been easier actually #if they had simply never loved you at all. or if they were upfront and told you they don't love you anymore. #at least then you can be as vindictive as you want and hold a grudge forever and be completely justified #but extremely begrudgingly this DOES make gustav a compelling character. in so many ways #you can see where it all went wrong. you can see henriette sees something in him that no one else can. and she's not crazy for it #she was probably there. she probably saw it all happen. she knows him w a level of intimacy no one else does. #and now you see these little humanizing traits. he loved his son. he loved his partner and wife. #juries still out on his daughter. #but you get what i'm saying right? it's terribly tragic. it's painful. #man. #i'm still gustav's number one hater though. just so we're clear. #AUGH IT'S JUST. THE PLAYFULNESS OF IT. IS ACTUALLY SO PAINFUL. LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WE KNOW #they had a rock competition........ to find the roundest rock.......... and she won....... and he saved the rock she found...... #THAT'S. AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH #you cannot fucking IMAGINE gustav doing that. and yet. in another time. he did. and that's who henriette fell in love with #and that's who herniette still sees. and she's not fucking wrong for it. not entirely. he still has that fucking rock. #dude i'm gonna be sick. #fe gustav #fe henriette #sharena #fe tina #fe alfonse #he's. mentioned. might as well tag him LMFAO

[jessiesjaded]

random picture dump :)

#cat update: theyre good #clancy update: he just ate roast chicken so hes also good #jess update: Im good #im happier rn than anytime since 2020 i think #still up and down but way less up and down- if that makes sense? #its nice its good- its autumn now and i always look forward to winter #suffice to say: i hope you guys are well too #i saw in an email i have messages on discord but last time i attempted to log in it wouldnt allow me so... if you msged there and i never #responded its bc i cant get in to respond and tbh #i think discord was maybe terrible for my mental health #which is a little sad bc that was the main way i talked to people but also... idk #jury is currently out on that front we'll see maybe i'll download it again #but regardless i miss you but im well and i hope youre well and i hope one day coming back wont feel so daunting #relationships are hard arent they? i hate things changing and ending more than anything else in the world #side effect of my dad dying when i was little i think #but the main thing thats been making me feel guilty and uneasy lately is feeling guilt about disappearing from people so again! #im trying and we'll see ! #yeah :)

[wabblebees]

just finished the new fantasy high episode and havent seen anyone talk abt this so i wanted to say i am 100. one HUNDRED PERCENT sure. that fuckin fourdogs was at that party invisibly (the One And Only buttfucker to NOT make an obvious appearance?? rules-follower or no, i dont believe that for a SECOND) and that she stole the piece of the cloud runner that went missing, and that the moment of her swipe was the "something" riz missed on his check -- i also really *hope* it wasn't oisin that made those damn ice mephits (or "muffets" as my beloved drunk adaine christened them lmao) act up like that, but immmmm pretty sure thats exactly what was goin on since it wouldve given his party member advantage/an easier access point :/

#dimension 20 #fantasy high #fhjy spoilers #listen i was oisin to be good & real & nice SO BAD. HOT RIPPED TATTED DRAGONBORN WIZARD ??? PLEASE #but. im also a suspicious-ass bitch lmao #also wait ik they spelled his name without the accent on his character art #but doesnt the name oisin have an accent over one of the i's?? idk jack abt shit so i could be wrong ofc #in any case. i like the concepts behhind the ratfuckers as a party (*except buddy. seeing him made me feel fucking ILL lmao.) but #i neeeeeeed them to get fucking TROUNCED by the bad kids. i NEED it. theyd be so much more tolerable if they got briefly asswhooped #like i think after that they could TOTALLY be friends and work together. before that?? FUCK no lmfao #anyway. i love-hate fishykitty whatserbucket and i need to see her lose #i cant wait for the ratgrinders to meet the unstoppable force that is the bad kids bigass hearts #deciding to team up with local shitheads & therefore turning them into op allies by sheer force of will and love #its happened to ragh its happened to aelwyn it kiiinda happened with kalina (jury's still out but my fingers are crossed!!) #spring break i believe in them!!! #bee speaks #its happening yall. i try to keep my incomprehensible blorboposting to a dull roar but now that im fully caught up on d20 i fear i may start #going full pepe silvia trying to figure this out #i cant binge it all in one go and have it rot thru my brain like slow-eating acid to leak thru in a contained matter #waiting for a new episode every week means i have time to THINK

[the-nightmare-theater]

me if i see one (1) more person severely mischaracterize bedman

#this is about the people calling him a misogynist. #im This fucking close to making a post detailing why he isnt one #im so mad like. honestly im a bit embarrassed by how mad i am lmao #like yes!!!!!! hes a bad person!!!!!! hes bad in different ways though #calling him a misogynist genuinely is just flat out misinfo #uggghhhhhh i meant to be asleep by now but ive spent the past 30 mins being mad at people on the internet #over whats probably bait #but UGGGH just the thought of someone believing that makes me just wanna fucking strangle someone #ignore me im just venting my frustration with this whole thing #nightmare ramble #vent #honestly i wouldnt even call him a fundashi i dont have that hc for him but calling him a misogynist is flat out wrong but could actually- #-be mistaken as the truth #by people who dont know the character well #he!!!!!! literally hates everyone besides his sister!!!!!!!!! #he hates women And men!!!!!!!!!!! #and nb people too although we havent seen him interact with a nb person in canon so the jurys still out on that ig #literally fucking says in his character bio that he doesnt care for age or gender #please learn how to fucking read ffs #anyways im gonna try to sleep now thats off my chest #edit: the term wasnt fundashi it was himejoshi #i mixed them up in my defense its 8am

[warlordfelwinter]

heheheheh

baby acquired

#i was browsing the hidden tower and realized that i could buy a baby pb and still have over a mil in the bank #i have wanted a baby lupe since my first neopets account as a kid i just think they're so cute #also shout out to juri for the correct suggestion of naming him after dodger from oliver and company #i was saving for a maraquan pb but honestly it's so expensive that 600k doesn't put me THAT far back #and i got like 6 free faerie cookies #so i'm hoping one of the 45 faerie quests i have left will be a fountain faerie #and then i can get my maraquan lutari for free instead of for 7 million neopoints #fel's neopets

[antiqua-lugar]

bg3: in conclusion fuck the gods

me: so I can be an atheist?

forgotten realms and the wall of faithless: no

me *picks the most okayest god to have the most lukewarm belief in*

#cher voice: do i believe in life after love #antiqua plays bg3 #like I know gods exist in this universe so you gotta pick one but this is like having to pick your health insurance #like i think yavanna is nice i guess i can vibe with nat....ah wait that's halflings only hold on #i guess i can believe in the concept of death #hit me up kelemvor #is ilamater fine? jury is still out #this is like that one time someone irl was like BUT WHO WOULD YOU BELIEVE and I was like I guess I could be a buddhist #boy they were not happy about that. because they wanted me to say christian. #it would be very funny to have a tav very concerned with their afterlife who lest gale ascend just because they are like #i cannot believe in the gods but i can believe in my buddy gale

[luxflora]

I have unexpectedly gained what may potentially be full responsibility for 6-8 hours tomorrow for two 10-year-olds. I was planning to go shopping............

#myposts #personal log #like. i can still do my cleaning probably #but i'm going to have to deal with lunch for sure #and my plan to set them loose in the arcade for an hour while i try on clothes has been shot down :( #and there's no way i can play video games #and they're going to be noisy and in my way #and i have to wake up before noon #and i have to GET DRESSED BEFORE NOON #I WAS SUPPOSED TO ONLY HAVE ONE TEN YEAR OLD. POSSIBLY. FOR PART OF THE DAY #NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS #im glad she gets to have a friend come over during break #im just pissed its MY responsibility now #im so fucking tired of getting assigned childcare responsibilities #im trying to fucking recover from the past three weeks #THIS IS NOT HELPING #I CAN'T EVEN WATCH A PODCAST. #AND JURY'S OUT ON WATCHING EITHER OF THE TWO SHOWS IM TRYING TO FINISH #i bought a couple respectable coloring books. if we need to i can break those out and put on some music #and i think i can get away with a movie #i have digital copies of some proper kids movies #and we have dvds of some others #the other girl is into spooky stuff so at least i dont have to worry about her getting freaked out by much #im just pissed off that this screws up my day tomorrow and my evening tonight