#so if that upsets you ignore this post

[gojoest]

i’ve never seen more desperately delusional ppl than gojo stans i swear

#— ai rambles #tw mentions of his death #so if that upsets you ignore this post #but like the things my eyes saw on twt 😭 #apparently g*jo’s body fell towards himself even tho he died standing and t*ji also died standing but his body didn’t fall #bc g*jo used blue to pull his lower half to his upper half in order to initiate healing #like what 😭 #WHAT 😭 #i am seriously in shambles #is this serious 😭

[plulp]

IM NOT A DOCTOR BUT I THINK I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP

#my art #dol #harper the doctor #HIIIIIIIIIIII HI EVERYONE 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋 #its a little bit off so that makes me kinda upset :( but ill figure something out. it might be the colors :( #or maybe the spacing? i left a lot in the top left :( but its fine #and im going to use every lyric of that song for every harper piece i make so that i dont have to think about making captions okay? #but HERE. a HARPER PIECE YOU CAN REBLOG #i give them the stupid messy sidebun because its cute. to me. #im so sorry about the radio silence but i DID warn you all i get artblock often #but!!!!!! i was also accepted into a zine despite my lack of internet presence :) so ive also been busy with that and other stuff too #accidentally made this while practicing for the piece because i couldnt get the style right :( but hopefully ill get a better hold on it #anyways. harper is not a doctor and i love them so much it makes me sick #harper my EVERYTHING. hes my PRINCESS. #MY ANGEL. #i want you all to remember this isnt just an art blog. its a harper fanblog #ohhh but i do have a few few few announcements to make in my next post okay? so dont ignore it alright? kiss kiss love you #IM GONNA BE FUCKING SICK HES HOLDING THE SYRINGE WRONG. AND I CANT FIX IT NOW BECAUSE ITS BEEN RBED

[styrofauxm]

Yeah you support aro people but do you listen to aro people when we tell you something you like doing hurts us?

#the endless cycle of #alloromantic person: I support aro people #alloromantic person 5 posts later: *posts something amatonormative and/or arophobic* #aro people: hey thats not cool and is actually pretty upsetting and amatonormative and/or arophobic #alloromantic person: well I want to do it so you guys are in the wrong for making me feel bad #aspec #aromantic #neon's void #also the age old classic of 'aro people are the real arophobes because they are ignoring [insert misunderstanding of aro identities here]'

[hells1nfern0]

Everyone whos saying they pulled a 5 hour long bait and switch on people just for the hl2vrai trailer. It wasn't just a bit for that it was so much more than that. Everyone is switching on a dime calling it such a good joke or staying stuck mad and pissy about it. Genuinely it was a fun stream. It was something the RTVS team clearly had a lot of fun making, they put 3 years of work and planning into it. There is more to them than HLVRAI. They never directly said it would be HL2VRAI.

But honestly though. I can't blame them for teasing it as such. If YOU put 3 years of effort into something would you allow it to just get ignored by everyone because it isn't what everyone cares about you for. Or would you want to make sure all the people started liking you for it initially would see how you grew.

BrBaVRAI was the same thing that HLVRAI was supposed to be. A fun stream with friends.

It isn't just for you man. It's supposed to be something fun and if you genuinely threw a shitfit about it or if you gave up on it called it unfunny, mid, or even bad. Only to turn around once you got what you Wanted.

You do not deserve what the RTVS crew will make.

You do not deserve HL2VRAI

EDIT: Honestly I don't care about most of the shit people are upset about. Yeah its fine for them to troll you they're known for that. Don't treat their work like it was always shit up until the point they gave you the shit you were waiting for. Just because you wanted a Twix doesnt mean a Snickers doesn't taste just as sweet. They aren't morally bad people for a prank that upset you.

#hlvrai #hlvrai2 #hl2vrai #brbavrai #I'm just frustrated is all. I was genuinely hoping that it would be a switch around bait because it would be funny #I even thought it would be funny if people got upset about it #But what I saw was just rude and petty. Even if someone wasn't being all pissy pissy about it there was still so much passive agression #and a ton of fucking guilting #The rtvs crew is not morally in the wrong for a joke you are just sensitive and do not care about them as people #You only see them as a vending machine. #people are already scraping for shit from the trailer ignoring the entirety of the work they did before that #like genuinely if you ignore all of brbavrai just for your little trailer thats genuinely shitty and not fair to the crew for all the work #they did #anyways ill probably stop posting today abt it just it makes me so mad just watching people shit on it when i can tell they loved what they #made #rtvs

[qcomicsy]

Lately I've only been wishing to grab a comic about my favorite character and just have a genuinely good time reading it.

#I can't remember the last time I took a Deadpool comic and genuinely had a good time about it #I hate the direction they took with his character and it's so disrespectful that I don't even talk about I don't even think *any* Deadpool #fan genuinely talk about it because were so tired of his kids characterization we all just collectively decided to ignore whatever hell #marvel through at him #but rant aside #it's just– #I am not sure if comic books are fun anymore I don't even know who I am making content for half of the people on my notes haven't touched #comic book and aren't pretending to do so #people who read the comics tend to be so mean or bitter about it that even if you follow most will be angry about something #comic or fan related and I don't know if I can blame them but following that is draining #and as much as I was trying to be a good sport about it you make a post about comic book characters and #and the overwhelming response is 'I don't read the comics but'– following up by a take about them that doesn't even recognize any core #aspect of their personality that you can't even grasp you can't even recognize them #you can't recognize them on tue cannon you can't recognize them on the fannon #and no matter how engaging you try to make content about the fandom people just–*refuse* to read it. And then– they *refuse* to tag fannon #content as fannon #and *refuse* to leave either #Yes we are all having fun but how can a character tag be so so filled with people who have no idea of who they are #how can a character can be properly loved and take care of and have content that respect them if no one makes any attempt to *know them* #and it's disheartening because *comics* are supposed to be fun *fannon are supposed to be fun* #but for aome reason it's really *really* hard to have fun here anymore #I created this page to share my love for the characters I care about and see more content of people who care about them too #but I can't even *find* people who care about them any more and when I do they're all so angry and upset– And I *cant even blame them* #I just... I don't know why I am doing this anymore or for who I am doing this anymore #sorry to vent but it's been a while since I haven't been had a genuinely good time™ enjoying comics #I don't think even people who write those comics enjoy those comics or care about those characters #Sometimes feels like everyone is projecting on those characters rather than *writing about them*. And I can't find them anymore #fanfics used to be about love petters to characters who you love #nowadays seems like a competition to see who makes more funny words with tropes pre-written since 2007 #vent

[camellcat]

WTFFF I thought thirteen would be my new girl crush love of my life heart eyes wife you-came-after-twelve-you-must-be-better-than-they're-all-saying bbygirl and then I had to sit down and watch as she told a man who (if he were not a murderer, of course) literally every regeneration before her would've LOVED and FULLY SUPPORTED that "the systems aren't the problem. how people use and exploit the system, that's the problem. people like you" </33333 !?!?

#WHERE IS THAT POST THAT SAID NINE WOULD KILL THIRTEEN FOR BEING A CLASS TRAITOR #WHY WOULD YOU SAY “ERODE PEOPLE'S TRUST IN AUTOMATION” ALL WORRIED AND CONCERNED LIKE THAT??? #WHEN DID YOU START LIKING AUTOMATION OVER PEOPLE THINKING AND DOING THINGS FOR THEMSELVES??? #AND WHY ARE YOU TRAVELING WITH A COPPER??? WE HATE COPPERS?????? #did we FORGET into the dalek?? how about how he treated danny?? god there's so much more I can't even remember off the top of my head #(I understand soldiers are different from cops but c'mon don't even PRETEND twelve would've been any nicer if blue or danny were just COPS) #also a bit off topic bUT MAY I JUST TALK ABOUT ARACHNIDS IN THE UK FOR HALF A GODAMNED SECOND— #I know the companions are usually the ones to do the doctor's dirty work here but like #I just can't see the other doctors NOT having the business man lure the spider for being so fuckin annoying about it #like I was genuinely surprised when they had him do that whole song and dance about not doing it and then he actually just. didn't do it #the doctor LOVES fucking with evil rich business men this is PERFECT. plus why not get back at him for being awful to their companions? #absolutely gobsmacked thirteen let him act like that. I am wrong in thinking that the others would've shut his shit down a LOT quicker?? #anyways. I love jodie whittaker and it's just so upsetting to have her doctor do something so wildly off #THIRTEEN PLEASE I HAD SUCH FAITH IN YOUUU I WAS IGNORING THE HATERS AND FOR WHAT #I can SEE the other doctors in her still I can FEEL them they're there she's doing an AMAZING job but. oh my god. what did they make her do #I can't even say she feels ooc as a whole because jodie is bloody brilliant. it's just these... moments. that don't make ANY sense to me... #especially coming off of twelve?? I get the radical personality switch but that belief is a core part of the doctor. or at least I THOUGHT #thirteenth doctor #doctor who #I still love all of you who love her and reading ur posts/fics but I. will not be making any myself. I do not think.

[healingheartdogs]

I have seen a couple of posts across social medias in the last couple of weeks about rat dogs not being a good recommendation for pest control in place of "barn cats" because dogs are significantly more work than cats are to manage and train and ngl it really annoys me that the neglect of cats is so normalized that people think they need zero management or training compared to dogs, especially when lack of management and training is literally part of the reason they are an invasive ecosystem destroying pest and commonly die horrible and fully preventable deaths outdoors. The real reason rat dogs aren't a good suggestion to people who have "barn cats" is because the vast majority of those people aren't actually using their cats for pest control at all, they are just keeping cats around and neglecting them and calling them "barn cats" as the excuse for why they keep them outdoors unmanaged and untrained (and often without proper vet care).

Cats deserve just as much medical care as dogs, cats deserve just as much management as dogs, cats deserve just as much play and enrichment provided by their owners as dogs, cats deserve to have their exercise needs met in a way that is safe for both them and other animals in their environments just like dogs, cats deserve training to make them easier to live with and contain and safer to interact with for other people and animals just like dogs, cats deserve protection from predators and diseases and parasites they can encounter outside just like dogs. Cats are not low to no effort alternatives to dogs. Throwing a cat outdoors is not a better or easier solution to a pest problem than getting a ratting dog (if that pest problem even actually exists and is being treated with the use of a cat, which I highly doubt in almost all cases), and is still harmful to the environment and dangerous for the cat even if the cat is occasionally killing mice for you (not rats, don't even get me started on cats for rat control, that is actual cruelty). If taking care of one animal is too much work neglecting another animal is not the solution. Use another pest management method that doesn't require you to take care of an animal at all if providing adequate animal care is a problem for you.

If you have mice inside your house or another building or whatever and an INDOOR cat that you use to help control small pests that are coming INDOORS and the cat also stays contained INDOORS where it can't decimate local small wildlife populations and you take care of it and make sure to get it frequent vet care for potential parasites and diseases it may pick up from those pests then this post is not about you. Scroll on instead of "okay but"-ing me, please. This is about outdoor/indoor-outdoor "barn" cats and cats being neglected under the false guise of them being kept around for "pest control". There is no justifiable reason for someone to have an outdoor cat. Calling it a "barn cat" or a "working cat" doesn't make them not invasive predators, doesn't make them not at risk for death by predation, doesn't make them resistant to parasites or diseases, doesn't make them resistant to poisons other people may set out that they get into or the small animals they kill get into and transfer to them, doesn't make them immune to being hit by cars, and doesn't make them immune to potential animal abuse by strangers. If you have ferals that aren't sociable that you're just taking care of at least keep them contained in an actual barn or sheltered catio or something -- not free to roam --and you still need to provide them vet care including neutering them otherwise you're just making more of a problem and still neglecting animals.

#wishing everyone with outdoor cats a very happy 'i hope someone steals your cat' #you wont even know because kutdoor cats just dont come home all the time because they die or go missing #and thats a risk you accept with outdoor cats so #you cant really be upset about it #better for someone to take your cat and keep it indoors and actually take care of it #than for it to get killed by another animal or hit by a car or poisoned or contract a disease or be injured while roaming #and no you arent exempt from this if youre british #your entire country preferring to neglect cats and ignore science as a policy doesnt make it not still neglect #idk why you think your terrible ecosystem management means that it doesnt matter if you let invasive predators run free #or somehow makes not supervising your animals to keeo them safe not neglect #just adding that on because i always see brits specifically showing their asses on pro-indoor cat posts

[one-winged-dreams]

Logging out yesterday dealing with the emotional cramping of mom trauma just to log in and have the first post I see on my dashboard be some victimy blamey post about how 'i'm sorry if mother's day is hard for you' posts are inherently oppressive for the poor mothers of the world :'(

#over emphasizing for sarcasm but literally shut the fuck up lmao #'just don't log in on mother's day so you don't have to see posts about mother's day' #okay then in that regard just ignore posts about other people feeling like shit or comforting people who feel like shit? #'moms deserve to have one day to feel good about themselves' #alright then if they're not abusive pieces of shit then they've got nothing to worry about now do they? #congratulations the vent post isn't about you now have fun and mind your own business #if you can vent about being upset about seeing people expressing sympathy to people for being triggered by mother's day #then i can vent about being triggered by mother's day #fuck's sake #vent

[majoringinsarcasm]

“I hate people who mindlessly praise RWBY and deny any of its awful writing choices”

I have no idea what circles you’re in that have people like this. I won’t deny they exist bc I’m certain they do, but I’ve seen so many ppl who love RWBY with all their hearts talk about multiple things across the volumes they didn’t like or wish had happens differently or where a scene was weak or where the pacing was off. Especially after people politely explained issues they had with V9 while still throughly enjoying the volume as a whole.

Again I’m not denying the existence of mindless praise but I have to ask WHO you’re coming across who In Earnest and not as a joke say the show is 100% Perfect For Real. Bc in the 10 years I’ve been watching the show I have not seen those people. Which maybe means I’m lucky?

But I feel like RWBY specially gets so much hate and shade and ppl talk about “bad writing” every other episode for the past six volumes like. Bruh if it’s THAT bad HOW are you still watching? There’s thinking it’s bad and hoping it’ll get better and then there’s hate watching and being confused why people seem to love a thing you hate and that doesn’t sound fun At All

#rwby #when the show ends SO many ppl are gonna make SO many videos about how it’s awful and how could it last so long #and I know objectively bad and boring shows can last really long times #but the happiness and hype so many ppl have when we get new news about it #also even if it IS a bad show which I disagree with #ppl can like bad shows I’m sorry you don’t like it or no longer like it I really am #but ppl are allowed to praise the good parts #not every fan wants to dwell on the parts they are upset with that doesn’t mean they are ignoring them #if you can sit through a 45 minute video where sownonw ONLY talks about the bad parts good for you #I’m here for the fun and the magic and the joy I can analyze on my own what didn’t work for me #not posting it online doesn’t mean I don’t think it and not seeing any hate doesn’t mean ppl think it’s perfect plz relax it’s been Years #at this point just watch sownthing else if after all this time you still don’t like it or can’t get back into it

[frostbitedoesart]

Just making a general post real quick in response to an ask.

When I say I'm anti-ai I mean I'm against any sort of AI that steals from others or would otherwise be used to put people out of a job. I don't feel like having an elaborate conversation about the positives and negatives of AI and all that, so I'll state this as plainly as possible.

I don't like AI art. I don't like AI voice impersonations. I don't like any sort of AI that has to steal stuff from people without their consent in order to function. That is literally it.

I'm not against ALL AI. I don't think people that are okay with AI in general should be burned at the stake or something. I'm just an artist and writer that doesn't like AI being used in CREATIVE SPACES. That's it.

I didn't think I would have to clarify this but, here you go, for anyone that was bothered.

#to the person who sent the ask #hopefully this clears things up #I answered you in this general post #because I didn't want to risk people getting upset at you #if they didn't like what you said. Think of this as me keeping you anonymous #I'm sorry if you see me as a “guilt-tripper” but you made that assumption based on minimal knowledge of my character #like. VERY minimal knowledge #you know nothing about who I am as a person or what the depth of my opinion was #you just saw me putting “fuck ai” in my tags and assumed that I meant ALL AI #which isn't an unreasonable assumption. it's a vague statement. But the ONLY reason I use vague tags is because it reaches more people #plus if you ACTUALLY look in the fuck ai tag it's mainly about AI art and such #so to just automatically label me as a guilt-tripper instead of trying to express that you respectfully disagree with my opinion #or what you THOUGHT was my opinion anyway #was something I really didn't appreciate #that being said #I'm not interested in turning this into some sort of conversation. #please don't respond to this directly #I've voiced my opinion on the matter. That's where this ends. #anyway extra tags that you can ignore// #artists on tumblr #small artist #oc artist #anti ai art #anti ai writing #anti ai voices #support human artists #human artist #fuck ai art #fuck ai writing #anti ai

[pendragora]

Our fandom whines about the lack of nuance and critical thinking, but then fails to comprehend the complexity of human emotion when it comes to seeing something you like being ruined or executed poorly

#literally wish i didnt see so many complaints about people being upset that go in the fashion “why do you watch it if you hate it” #dudes. this is such a basic experience #people will see what they want to see applies to media. people will take from this what they can take and can cope with #tf. this is so wild. we go through ten stages of fucking grief in fandok drama and then learn nothing from it and start again #with not just complaining but straight up direct jabs at people “why do you watch it then if you hate it so much” #my gods people are allowed to complain about being unhappy with genuinely bad adaptation decisions wdym #it literally costs you nothing to exist on this platform #i'm sorry guys but when someone complains about their favourite show it is a basic thing to do and is expected when new content drops #but when you complain about them complaining you go out of your way to stir shit up #so many dramas here started because some of us could not shut the fuck up and ignore someone doing something in their own space #control your platform and the experience here. SCROLL PASSED THE POST. IT'S FREE #like genuinely. there is NO reason to get annoyed at people for something that happens all the time. people complain. and they will complai #don't bother fighting me. i stand by what i said #lena goes off

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

Observing peoples reactions to morally gray or black actions committed by different characters is so funny. Throughout all of G. War the character tags were chock-full of people unironically enraged claiming “Bruce isn’t even capable of doing something bad like that.” about an action that is pretty well in line with his character journey thus far, meanwhile there are still new posts that gain traction that open with lines like “I know Jason has committed his fair share of sins/crimes but” like bro when. In 2010?

Also. The whole premise of the b*tfamily™ that you so love is built on the load bearing wall being that they are a crime family. Hell, do people just collectively forget the part where Bruce manufactures and freely uses weapons with his own furry brand logo plastered all over them, causing all sorts of 'explosions and more!' property damage all over the streets of Gotham? Pretty sure that makes him a terrorist but you people don't feel the need to go around reminding fandom of that every five minutes.

#as someone who loves post crisis Jason more than the average person who considers themselves a Jason fan: #how much longer are we going to pretend that’s still where we are today #to all the people who get so fucking worked up anytime Jason does something other than sit there and look pretty #what exactly do you want to see him do in comics anyway? vacuum his apartment? #like please let him fuck shit up for people whose plans were messed up anyway please let him have opinions and act on them #kelseethe #these people assume fans like Jason *despite* all his ‘wrongdoings' #when we repeatedly post about why Jason fucking with people was epic and cool and justified #while they sit there being upset that their traumatized problematic fav with a god complex #acts like a traumatized problematic bitch with a god complex lol #‘do Jason fans even know why they like his character’ seems like someone is in need of some introspection #disclaimer: l'm not a bruce anti. you know that liking a problematic character doesn't mean wanting to erase #every atrocity he committed and putting him through a redemption arc #I just have low tolerance for the utter ignorance of some of his fans lol #and that of his writers who market him as the agreeable voice of reason #while simultaneously portraying him as an abusive father + war criminal lol #the way I used the terms ‘morally gray/black’ here is subjective. #personally I don’t consider killing drug dealers/kingpins in a fictional universe morally gray because I’m not a fucking narc lol #but abusing your son for over a decade then literally breaking his brain is undeniably morally black in & out of universe

[dejwrites]

i need my fellow black people to just ignore the shaderoom for this full month (hell we need to ignore them forever). i am begging on my knees at this point.

#so upset i can’t find my satire essay making fun of them omg #they posted zaya wade and you guys know what them comments was looking like #and idc cause they know what they are doing when they post zaya #they know a bunch of ignorant small minded probably haven’t washed the gooch grease in between their ass cheeks ass people going to comment #vile stuff about a MINOR! #i need dwyane to file something for them to stop posting his child!

[gifti3]

I think one con of dating asmo would be his fans

I like to believe that most of them are decent but theres always gonna be fans who dont know or care about healthy boundaries (some of his fans have to have a parasocial relationship with him!)

And ik asmo can defend himself but im sure it can still be upsetting at times

#uncomfortable - anger inducing - mood ruiner #like he has to experience these sometimes at least? #also who wants to see their partner upset?? #i was thinking last night about how asmos comment section on his devilgram/fabsnap posts must be just a mixed bag #some of it has to be so unhinged #omg mc just physically getting in between him and a fan #and yea sure some of his fans could body mc.... #(at least before they started learning magic) #but when u wanna protect someone ur not always thinking about ur own safety #asmodeus x mc #asmodeus x reader #obey me asmodeus #obey me #i dont even wanna go into the idea of his fans just talking to him and ignoring mcs existence #ive read fics where that happens and its like GAHH #how do u not get mad at that #interjecting themselves into a convo mc and asmo are having and attempting to push mc out of it #(i dont think asmo would let it happen but its still annoying!!) #good morning lol #start the day with scenarios that would irk you

[strangerhands]

if any of you ever notice me liking, un-liking, and re-liking your posts, (sometimes multiple times a day. sometimes multiple days apart.) please (try to) ignore me. i am sorry. i am insane. thank you. have a good day

#i like actually have issues #i need to ''line up'' and semi-organize my likes (which act as my bookmarks) #and like. it drives me insane when things arent how i Need them to be. #like for example three fics of the same character need to be one after the other and stuff #it goes kinda deeper and more insane but just to give you a general idea #so catch me constantly liking and unliking and reliking things a billion times #also do it to like put some things back at the top of my likes because so much gets buried so quickly and i just need to remember its there #both with things i that havent read yet and with things that i want to reread #i feel like so insane and annoying about it all the time🧎but like its just something that i Need to do... #like it actually kind of upsets me #if i dont. but also when i do. #it also honestly makes me scared/nervous that people will get really annoyed and or weirded out by it if they see/notice it happen:/ #i definitely have further mental issues #anyways #basically just im sorry and please ignore me #talkin shit #maybe i should talk to someone about this. or go down the research rabbit hole. aaaaaaaanyways. #goodnight! #it is 8am and i dont know how im still awake! #this was a certified talkin shit post #absolute wall of tags jesus #sorry :p #if you read all of this. i am sorry and i love you (big deal for me) #(another issue of mine) #🧍 #hashtag unnecessary off putting weirdo rant😝 #my specialty #okay bye #just had to edit this post a billion times. #woah tag limit reached. its a sign for me to shut the fuck up. note taken. thanks tumblr.

[hannibal-confessions-nbc]

I hate when people say Hannibal "ruined" Will's perfect life with Molly shuuut up Will made his own choices. Will conveniently walked his dogs when Jack was there and left Molly alone with him knowing he would show her crime scene photos and she'd try to make Will go. He said he knew what he was doing going back after Molly got hurt. Hannibal told him not to come back even and Will ingored it! We need to acknowledge Will is a manipulative person and makes his own choices

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#anon i am so sorry i took ages to post this. its been over a month i hope youre hanging in there #hannibal confessions #nbc hannibal #hannibal #im so sorry for ranting here! couldnt help myself. #about hannibal telling will not to go back... he did say that BUT because he knew will wouldnt #listen to him. will has problems with authority god damn it. course he wouldnt listen. i think im more upset with molly in this scenario #because she pushed will to do something he expressed uneasiness for. she pressured him. he guilt tripped him into going. #ik will makes his own choices but as someone who has been guilt tripped frequently by someone im supposed to trust. its not easy to ignore. #doesnt matter if its intentional or not. #guilt tripping is not easy to ignore at all. so yeah im mad at molly for that. BUT THEN. im mad at jack for guilt tripping molly into guilt #but then im not mad because jack was just doing his job. he wanted a way to catch the ripper and he was relentlessly out for his ass #and would stop at almost nothing to get there. including putting his agent-made-ex agent-made-agent again's life and wellbeing on the line #yeah. will is a grown man. he makes his own choices. hes manipulative. hes a good manipulator. #no matter how manipulative you are you can still be manipulated. and easily. will has an unstable sense of self and im 99.9999999 percent #sure he struggles with a dissociative disorder outside of the encephalitis. among plenty of other things. his sense of self is not stable. #that makes him malleable. he can close himself off all he wants to avoid being susceptible to manipulation but he's still malleable. #chiyoh said it. she's not as malleable as he is. #will graham #hannibal lecter #molly graham #jack crawford