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[stardate44002point3]

Shaw and Seven

So, we're back to Shaw disrespecting Seven and calling her Hansen, and everyone losing their shit over it. But I just rewatched both Dominion and Surrender and I have some thoughts about this.

First, let's just deal with the elephant in the room, that most people seem to be ignoring. When he was in the turbolift with Vadic and her hench-goons, Shaw gave Seven a direct order to blow the turbolift. He knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it, he had far more information about the situation than she did, and he, correctly, deduced what would happen if the turbolift reached the bridge and Vadic gained control of the ship.

Seven promptly ignored his order - she had plenty of time to carry it out - she just chose not to obey it. It doesn't matter why she chose not to obey the order, it only matters that in a situation where a superior officer with more information than she had about a situation gave a direct order specifically to protect the crew, she chose to disobey.

When Shaw is lying on the deck at the end of Dominion, the despair is just radiating off him, there are tears running down his face (Todd Stashwick just killed it in that scene); he knows exactly what is going to happen next - people, his people, are going to die - all because Seven chose to spare him. It's the Constance all over again, but worse, because he's the captain and his job is to protect these people, and he tried, but he was thwarted by an XO that defied him.

(Better picture now I can screenshot)

Which brings us to the bridge scene in Surrender. Shaw is pissed at Seven, Shaw is rightfully pissed at Seven. No one on the bridge has died yet, but Vadic has control of the ship and his crew are dying, he can hear them dying and, as we later see thanks to Jack, some of them are dying horribly. None of that would have happened if Seven had blown the turbolift when she was ordered to. He's absolutely right when he says that being a Starfleet officer means not just obeying the orders that feel good.

She tries to defend herself by saying she "doesn't trade lives". But he isn't buying it, nor should he, because she has traded lives, she's traded Shaw's life for the lives of his crew, possibly dozens of his crew.

Then it gets worse when Vadic executes T'Veen in front of them.

So, if calling her "Commander Seven" is a mark of respect (as she states previously) then he's demonstrating in that moment of contained rage and despair, that he doesn't respect her. And I'm not really sure he should, her action (or lack of action) has caused the deaths of his crew.

By the end of the episode it appears that all is forgiven, when he grants Seven the honor of destroying the Shrike, but that feels cheap; as did her "Captain Shaw, may I present your ship back". That implies that she had something to do with retaking the ship, and she didn't, she made a grand gesture which might actually have screwed up Jack's plan, and really didn't contribute anything to getting Vadic off the ship - that was all Jack, Data and Picard.

Don't get me wrong, I love Seven, but Shaw is absolutely in the right in this entire exchange and the idea that much of the audience thinks that his disrespecting her by calling her "Hansen" is a far more heinous crime than her disrespecting him by disobeying his orders and getting people killed, is bizarre to me.

ETA: If you show up in the comments or reblog to hate on Shaw, I will block you, just a warning. Reasonable debate and discussion is welcome, shit-talking is not.

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[thecinamonroe]

Marilyn Monroe at a press party for "The Seven Year Itch" in New York, NY, September 9, 1954. Photo by Sam Shaw.

#marilyn monroe #1950s #50s #1954 #vintage #retro #the seven year itch #old hollywood #Old Hollywood glamour #beauty #sam shaw

[trek-daily]

STAR TREK: PICARD (2020-2023) “Imposters” (3.05)

#trekedit #star trek #star trek picard #liam shaw #jean luc picard #will riker #seven of nine #usertoph #tusershay #userteri #tuserpolly #picard #* #gifs #by tom

[timelessmarilyn]

Marilyn Monroe photographed by Sam Shaw during the filming of “The Seven Year Itch” (1955).

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[themarilynmonroefanatic]

Marilyn Monroe behind the scenes of The Seven Year Itch photographed by Sam Shaw (1954)

Re: Marilyn Monroe as The Girl in The Seven Year Itch (1955) dir. Billy Wilder

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[curator-on-ao3]

Married (affectionate)

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[evviejo]

STAR TREK: PICARD - S3E4 No Win Scenario

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[trekdaily]

STAR TREK: PICARD (2020–2023) - 3.08 • "Surrender"

#i would say the quality of this show is due to it being filmed on a potato but tbh i think a potato would have had better quality to it #absolutely insane they didn't shoot it in 4k like what year is this 2012?? #trekedit #startrekedit #scifiedit #tvedit #usertom #userposs #userelm #userpavlova #tuserlou #omgari #userjack #usermulder #** #by shay #seven of nine #liam shaw #picard #picard spoilers

[avoicefromthestars]

Star Trek: Picard Surrender

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[departmentq]

#captain liam shaw #liam shaw #seven of nine #7 of 9 #shaw is a we have McDonalds at home kind of captain #now imagining seven with a happy meal

[gatabella]

Marilyn Monroe during the filming of The Seven Year Itch in Los Angeles, California. Photos by Sam Shaw, 1954

#marilyn monroe #sam shaw #the seven year itch

[eobard-thawne]

"First time your prissy ass showed up at the Tower, crying in that bathroom... You saved me. Truth is, you... you don't need me anymore. I could jump. But you can fucking fly." DOMINIQUE MCELLIGOTT AS QUEEN MAEVE IN THE BOYS (SEASON 3)

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[thecinamonroe]

Marilyn Monroe during the filming of “The Seven Year Itch” in New York, September 1954. Photo by Sam Shaw.

#marilyn monroe #old hollywood #retro #vintage #50s #old hollywood glamour #beauty #photography #sam shaw #1954 #the seven year itch

[trek-daily]

STAR TREK: PICARD (2020-2023) “Imposters” (3.05)

#trekedit #star trek #star trek picard #seven of nine #liam shaw #userteri #usertoph #tusershay #tuserpolly #omgari #picard #* #gifs #by tom

[spockvarietyhour]

Star Trek Picard "Disengage"

#Star Trek Picard #PIC #spoilers #Disengage #Vadic #Liam Shaw #Seven of Nine #picardedit #startrekedit #GIF #my gifs #Danny and Renae watch PIC

[captainpikeachu]

Seven and Shaw’s dynamic is endlessly fascinating to me

He won’t respect her name due to his Borg trauma but will not hesitate to die for her

She will call him out for being a disrespectful bigoted asshole but will not sacrifice his life

I’ve never seen two people this Angy™️ at each other but will still die for each other

It’s such a differently unique Captain and XO dynamic when compared to the other captains and first officers on the other shows

#their dynamic is just soooo dramatically fascinating #I need more of it #Jeri and Todd has such good onscreen chemistry #they just steal every scene together #seven of nine #liam shaw #star trek picard #star trek #jeri ryan #todd stashwick #star trek picard spoilers