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astranova · 5 months
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burnorgetburned · 1 year
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What if I told you that I do find it romantic that Madoka ascended on the power of Homura’s love, and that when Homura saw that this hurt her, she used this very same love to pull her down and take her place? What if being god was suffering and Homura tried her best to save her? What if I told you that was the most romantic thing I’ve ever seen?
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thefruitonyourfly · 7 months
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Just read a comment under a magireco Madoka's magical girl sequence that said "now Madoka is a badass" and I was like HUH
Like did some of you watched episode 12 blindfolded and with ear plugs? Because I don't think you guys truly grasp the scope of what Madoka did that episode: The Incubator has been on earth for a MILLENNIUM, meaning that has been thousand of girls before Madoka who have tried to outsmart his system and met a terrible fate for their attempts, but only Madoka has been able to beat him, do you guys understand that? The smartest and strongest girls have tried, but something always thwarted their plans—be it their potential not being that high or Kyuubey twisting their words so it would be in his favor instead—But Madoka had something they didn't and it was her circumstances (Homura and the timeloops), Madoka knew her wish would come at a great sacrifice, but just like Homura said in Rebellion "She rose to the occasion" because she knew it was something only she could do; No one would ever have the perfect circumstances to make that wish like Madoka. So, she did it.
When Madoka made her wish and Kyuubey hesitated for the first time in the series because he understood the implication of it, Madoka said to him: "Now, grant my wish, Incubator." When Kriemhild Gretchen was born and Kyuubey thought he had the advantage back again because this witch could literally swallow a planet and Madoka killed her with one shot. Madoka won, essentially. Like her system isn't perfect, Kyuubey isn't dead, and there's still suffering, but it was the best wish for the magical girl kind as a whole, and all improvements are only possible by what Madoka did here. She played within the Incubator's system and rewrote it. She is the most powerful character in the whole franchise and arguably one of the most powerful characters in anime. "But didn't Homucifer defeated Madokami?" Well, sort of. Homura's win is, ironically, also due to extreme circumstances, only Homura could've done that and only within this one scenario: and even when she won it's heavily implied that if Madoka even has a slightly moment of deja vu it's over for her, she can't win against Madoka on fair terms so even Homura herself can't achieve that feat again. That's just how powerful Madoka is.
Do you guys understand that?
And here's the thing: my problem with that statement isn't even that I don't think magireco Madoka isn't as cool as Madokami, I think she's badass too. Is just like, I thought we all thought Madoka was cool as herself?? Like even without being a magical girl or a fucking godess, Madoka was cool as shit. When Madoka risked her own life to save the lives of her friends and strangers at the warehouse? She had no powers, no backup, and had just watched Mami die to a witch and yet she still followed Hitomi. But people only want to see Madoka's character as what the witch showed her afterwards, her own survivors guilt and perceived weakness and cowardice over wanting to live and not be a magical girl despite what she promised Mami, and yet the scene prior to this conflicts with this idea. Madoka not only can risk her life for others and save them when the need arises, but she already has. Even without being a magical girl. It's just who she is. This, to me, is one Madoka Magica's core strenght as a show that Madoka spent the majority of it being the most "powerless" in almost every scenario and yet she still tried her best to overcome things, even when it didn't work It was never worthless, if anything it proved her own strenght of character and without it she would've never gotten as powerful how she is today.
If Madoka hadn't been kind to Homura on her first day of school, if she hadn't done the simple act of reaching out to someone she thought was kind shy, none of this would've have happened. Her kindness did this, not any other power.
My favorite thing about Madoka's character arc is that Madoka starts as a very naive opmitimisc girl and with a somewhat sheltered view of of the world, then she goes throught horrors few can understand and while she could (understably) become bitter with the world and grow to despise it, Madoka comes of it realizing...she was right. Madoka has felt the pain the world could give her in her own skin, has literally died, and she now thinks Hope is needed more than ever. And it saddens me a lot when people don't understand how strong and cool she is because of that, to be hurt and choose to be kinder and more understanding to yourself and the world in return, because the world can be better we just can't give up...
Basically what I'm saying with this that if you don't like Kaname Madoka, fuck you—
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thecoolnauta · 13 days
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Idea for Sagau but instead of MC as a young adult who is love by everyone is just... A TEEN (xd)
THIS GOING TO BE LONG SO
So okay, (I'm bad at English so, I don't thinks this might be well understod but, please excuse it :'u) this actually came from me watching TOH while eating so.
Just think of it, where all Teyvat's knows about this mystic and graceful creature that is always near the Traveler and their little rare pixie. They know that a unknown creature even above their gods is traveling with the (far to nice) foreign.
They don't know how they look, they don't know how they act or even how they sound like, but they can feel them. A warm hug filled with curiosity and dearly affection.
Maybe they won't make a whole new religion for that new god, but they might pray them instead of their own Archons for very important wishes. Hoping for an instant, you'll hear them.
And even the Archons are cool with it!!! Since the Traveler came to Teyvat, everyone feels that love biting their skin in a childish way.
They imagine you like a benevolent and playful deity, a charming and elegant being that helps even with the most harmful missions, just for save them.
Just for make them smile again.
And there's you! A (probably) neurdivergent queer kid who might be not fully North American and is obsessed with fantasy and writing fanfics about your parental figures.
Yeah, you might get to intense when is about them. But hey, even Jesus doubt.
In your universe, Genshin is not, in fact, a thing. The whole freaking lore and the "gameplays" are just very detailed dreams you have every night.
You can't actually tell when it started, but it have a while so-
Yeah, you are really The Creator, huh.
Well, let me tell you something, IT'S GETTING WORSE
When your not that accepting parents decided to put you on a weird camp thing where you will be a honorable member of American society (yeah u know what I meant) a weird but cute... create stool your diary where you write your dreams.
To write a fanfic or smt idk.
And that, really weird existence with withe fluffy hair(?) and golden eyes ran into a forest that you never actually notice.
But screw that you probably change the state, you're getting back that diary.
Persecution cringy cinematic, blahblahblah and you get to a very gigante estructure more old than your last name. The fantasy and pure white practically inviting you to take a closer look.
And you do, of course (maybe was your internal desire of still being you)
You pass over it, the creature is gone, but you have your diary back. Yey :D!!
But man, this isn't the Americans, they would never take care of a forest like this.
Then you almost do the same travel of the not Abyss twin (I'm getting tired, I just want to name one of them but AHG), you walk all over the forest, see with amusement all around and WHY IT'S TOO FAMILIAR FOR THE LOVE OF MADOKAMI.
And yeah, after finding slimes and a statue of a very pretty man you realized you were in your dreams world.
oh, oh
Yep, you were in fuckin Teyvat's floor, touching Teyvat's grass and breathing Teyvat's oxygen...
AND LISTEN TO ME you just fall into Mondstadt to find a guide and a way to scape and all treats you like the Traveler but ways less useful. Just offering you food and awkward smiles by your strange kind of act.
(they just can't handle a neurdivergent kid with anger issues talking Spanish when they can't understand how the time works)
So after the fourth night sleeping on a bunch of boxes because you refuse to have any type of cold blood animal on you when you sleep, an aventure took you to the Favonius knights.
(Totally not a request, Katherine you inteligent metallic women)
So they might just seeing you like a kid who happens to be in the same spot as the Traveler, but less stronger and more but MORE curious than them.
You smeems to know everything, not just of them but their nation, asking thing that a normal foreign would never ask.
But after a while of overthinking, they just decide to let you wandering around Mondstadt, just if you don't cause any trouble.
In fact, you did, but shhhh..
Yeah, all that would ended like a weird but not problematic at all situation BUT OH NO LORD BARBAS FREE THEM BECAUSE THEY GET ATTACHED TO U MORE THAN THEY WANTED.
Found family found familying and stuff, you're totally Pog dude, never forget that.
AND WHEN THEM FINDS OUT YOU'RE THE CREATOR WHO TAKE CARE OF THEM AND TAKE CARE OF KILLING THE MENACE WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP THEY JUST:
"Oh for you, kiddo you were the creator all along!!!"
"The what?"
But you just go before they even finish to assimilate all that information bomb. And that repeats with all the nations, for the love of hippie god son
So yeah, they just re program their windows and treat u like the above mortals type and you're just confused and too neurdivergent for that shit so just "continue talking man, yeah I totally understand the fact that u see me as the god of gods, yeah sure, rad"
And yeah, that was everything, it's 3:00 and I'm very dizzy so, please don't mind my really bad grammar and thanks for reading all that.
(If you want to use the idea just give credits, it's okay) Maybe If I have time I'll write an actual fanfic or more headcanons but now I'm going to sleep.
Stay safe, remember: you can fight all this shit, you'll get better soon. Bye :v
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hikari-ni-naritai · 22 days
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i dont have it in me to articulate this post well and i know ive posted about it before but the way both madokami and homucifer's outfits are so much more mature than their magical girl outfits (which are usually cutesy or school-uniform-inspired skirts etc), symbolising the way the roles theyre taking on should really be done by adults instead of 14 year old children, is really important to me. like yes they look cute in them, but thats not the outfit a carefree middle schooler would wear. those are fancy adult dresses. because madoka shouldnt HAVE to save everyone. homura shouldnt HAVE to save madoka. there should be responsible adults overturning the social structures that've forced middle school girls to fight for the safety of the world, but there arent. so the middle school girls have to take on the role of those adults themselves.
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lavenderr-starrs · 2 months
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I’m sorry to my mutuals who are watching me like disappear for a week or a month and then reappear reblog stuff and post stuff from fandoms you’ve probably don’t even know about (A lot shit on my plate that’s been burning me out lmao! I’m fine though just been busy dw!! It’s nothing bad I promise even though it probably sounds like smth bad XD)
but I’m gonna make this post before I literally lose my marbles
It’s about twisted wonderland and Madoka magica so strap in fellas this is gonna be hella targeted to probably me and me alone and maybe like one other person
Anyways HEAVY AND I MEAN HEAVY SPOILERS FOR BOTH FRANCHISES and A REALLY LONG RAMBLE UNDER THE CUT LMAO
So don’t click keep reading if you havent finished or started either (ESPECIALLY MADOKA MAGICA, Trust me the show and movies are so good walking into blind I’d kill a man to watch it blindly again) also warning for potentially shit grammar incoming lol
First things first-
HOW HAVE I NOT SEEN SOMEONE NOTICE THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN OVERBLOTS AND WITCHES?
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The similarities is the over-use of magic and negative energy polluting the energy source they use to performing these magical abilities turning them into abominations that go on a rampage and effecting the lives of those around them.
The difference though is that for witches, it’s specifically middle school girls who become witches and them becoming witches have the chances of causing world ending atrocities- and in the world of puella magi most Natural disasters are due to the fact a witch is the cause of those disasters and only incubators and other unsuspecting naive magical girl know of
Whereas in twisted wonderland *So far* we’ve only seen Teen high school boys overblot and that didn’t(Besides chapter 6 and 7) have any world ending consequences in my opinion
Says alot huh? XD
Anyways that’s a point I wanna get to another time
You know what I’d love to see? a reader-insert or just a yuu from puella magi in the world of twisted wonderland!
Now this is when I start getting real self-indulgent with this XD but I wanna see like a Homura!Yuu! :)
basically a reader-insert who takes the role of Homura Akemi, right?
And the entirety of the first anime happens and Madoka goes from a 14 year old girl who made a wish to save a cat from dying by unknowingly trading her soul to become a magical girl as an energy source to a higher being
to end up becoming an omnipotent concept that saves magical girls when their gems over pollute and are about to become witches
But instead of the Rebellion Arc happening and Homura!Yuu becoming a witch and demon and all that pizazz! let’s say they “try” to keep going and just Bans themselves from going back in time again and trying to go forward for Madokamis sake and deals with those weird wraith things in the new universe
and maybe a little cherry on top they try to learn and expand the magic abilities Yuus other magical girl friends had.
Later on we move to let’s say, 17 Year old Homura!Yuu, and guess what? You’ve been isekaid bestie have fun!
During the prologue introduction, when Homura!Yuu wakes up into the coffin grim doesn’t get a moment to even open the coffin as you just kick it open ready to transform believing this is some form of a witches labyrinth and are ready to jump into a bunch of conclusions
Now, in comes a poor unsuspecting Grimm
And the first thing Homura!Yuu does upon notice of him? The same thing Homura did to Bebe in rebellion-
just one Quick grasp onto his neck and just instantly slamming him into the nearest wall before he could even say a word. Questions being shot left and right over this potential Witch-like being or a being that seems to be similar combination of a witches Familiar+ Kyubey. A thought you do not like the sound of.
Grim is quite fairly, terrified out of his mind (I’m sorry my son) But! Lucky for him in comes the headmaster to witness this display of aggression! And school hasn’t even begun yet! The nerve!
Now this can go from here in Multiple ways, but for now, how id see it going is Crowley using his whip to tie up Homura!Yuu and just yoinks up a scared grim similar to what Mami did in rebellion
you’re only reaction to this is “Ah shit, here we go again.”
Now I can see Crowley ends up kicking Grim away still since you’ll obviously deny any association with him and just questions Crowley like there’s no tomorrow and just like in canon those questions fall on deaf ears! Lol
Crowley believes that coming to night raven college has frazzled your young hormonal teenage mind into acting so aggressive and since he’s such a kind and generous headmaster does not hold you accountable for it, isn’t he so wonderful c:
Homura!Yuu ends up quietly playing along to whatever the hell is going on to get a better and proper assessment on the situation you’ve been put in. So everything continues on as normal while the students of NRC give you a strange look until it’s finally your turn to approach the mirror.
How I’d see the mirror react to a Homura!Yuu is once you give it your name, I feel like he’d go “their soul is..Missing?..” Because as you know your soul has been turned into your soul gem and the mirror has no knowledge of this so you’re not gonna be assigned any dorm, sorry not sorry c:
This, understandable, freaks everybody out.
This is when Canon plays out a usual in the story for the prologue with the headmaster taking you to Ramshackle and you’re Re-encounter with Grim.
When you do encounter grim again you transform again and start to chase after him to continue where you left off back in the mirror chamber. This leads to Homura!Yuu discovering grim to be innocent in your arrival here and just simply… wants to be able to grow stronger.. hmm why do you feel like you’ve heard that before
Upon Grim proving his innocence and quite frankly become official scared of Homura!Yuu in comes the ghosts to scare him some more! They watch you chase him down and wanted to join in on the fun.
Mind you, you aka Homura!Yuu are still on guard and still transformed so you obviously attack the ghost with grim ending believing you attacked them for his protection! You didn’t, but if it makes up for scaring the piss outta him sure 👍 well go with that.
Now we continue with canon from here with Crowley calling you a beast tamer and hiring you as a janitor yadda yadda, but Grim ends up referring to you as his Bodyguard instead of henchman in this one! Which if Homura!Yuu was going to be honest, Grim was 1,000 percent a bigger improvement then kyubey.
I totally wanna make a side writing blog and make more stuff like this if it gathers the attention of others lol, I already have it made I just need to edit it along with my other side account where I used to post art until I took them down due to tumblrs Ai update lol
Once I’m done fixing up those two I’ll make a master post with the users of all three of my blogs and my ao3 too lol
Anyways thanks for reading my weird ass ramble :) I have so many ideas I wanna talk about for this and so many story scenarios that probably no one’s gonna be interested in XDD
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8r14r-r0s3 · 8 months
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So I recently noticed something about Homura Akemi’s magical girl outfit that I’ve never seen anyone else mention. Probably because it’s honestly a bit of a stretch but I think it’s fun.
So in her magical girl design she has this weird chain of diamonds down her leggings (boots??? Both???) that always confused me because of how much it looked like Kyoko’s chains. It’s was then also realized that she and Mami are the only girls to have a ribbon neck tie and a bow at the back of their dress. And I tried to see if she had design aspects that aligned with Sayaka and Madoka, and I think sayaka’s is a little bit of a stretch, but they both wear a pleated skirt that is their theme color with a white trim at the end of it.
But I realized something fun when I got to thinking about madoka’s outfit and seeing if anything matched, and I realized that both she and Madoka have a hairstyle that comes in two and are tied with ribbons (Madoka has twin tails, Homura has twin braids). Homura later wears Madokas red ribbons after she becomes Madokami. And then I realized that Homura doesn’t have anything matching Madoka for most of the series. The only thing that tied her to Madoka she renounced to try to save her, and she only gets something that ties back to her after she failed.
Anyways again bit of a stretch but I think it’s fun :)
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silvermoon424 · 2 years
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How would you rank the various PMMM spinoffs?
For the purposes of this list, I'm just counting the manga. Obviously this is just my personal opinion, but I'd put them in this order. I have enjoyed every spinoff I've read!
The Different Story: Pretty much flawless imo, and an absolute must-read for all fans of the original anime. It gives so much additional depth and development to the Holy Quintet, especially Kyoko and Mami.
Tart Magica: Another stellar manga that's pretty much tied for first place. Easily the best of the independent spinoff manga imo. The characters are really likable, and even if you're not normally into historical fiction (like me) it's cool to read about the Hundred Years' War and Joan of Arc's life (as the mangaka includes a lot of notes). Seeing magical girls in a historical setting is also super interesting.
Magia Record (manga): The game and anime are their own things, but I love the game a lot and feel like the manga has been a great adaptation so far. The anime ended up being a big disappointment (at least to me) so I'm hopeful the manga will eventually be a way for people to access the story of Magia Record. Knock on wood it doesn't get axed before they finish the story of Arc 1!
Oriko Magica: Another solid entry, although I think you should be required to read Sadness Prayer after you read the original Oriko Magica manga. Sadness Prayer greatly fleshes out the characters and story of the original manga (it takes place a little before and during the events of Oriko Magica, showing things we didn't see or explaining things better). Not to mention the art very much improved by Sadness Prayer too; I know a lot of people who won't even touch Oriko Magica because of how wonky the art is, lol. Despite the art being off-putting sometimes, I would still recommend the Oriko Magica series because Oriko and Kirika are such great characters.
The Wraith Arc: I'm a bit more lukewarm on this entry. I do like it, but I think it could have benefitted from another volume or two to flesh out the story some more. Which is a shame, because this is pretty much the only look we have so far at Madokami's new universe where Witches no longer exist (Rebellion takes place in Homulilly's barrier, and Magia Record takes place in a unique timeline where Madokami does exist but she can't interfere in this one universe). I still think it's worth a read and as always, Hanokage's art is gorgeous.
Suzune Magica: Great concept, not so great execution. I love the idea of a magical girl serial killer who kills other magical girls to "save" them from the fate of becoming a Witch, but the story feels so rushed. Especially the last volume, which really could have benefitted from another volume or two to flesh out the motivations and actions of the surprise antagonist. I do like the characters in this manga, though. Worth a read, but I'd put it low on the priority list.
Kazumi Magica: Imo the worst spinoff. It was drawn by a hentai artist, so the magical girl designs and some scenes can be... uncomfortable, lol (not, like, explicit but definitely ecchi). The story itself is kind of a disjointed mess, and even with 5 volumes it feels like the there wasn’t enough time for the writer to flesh out all the different plot elements. I think it's worth noting that Kazumi Magica was published when the anime was initially airing, so it's entirely possible the writer didn't know all the intricacies of the PMMM universe and had to go back and contradict himself/come up with alternate explanations. It definitely gives a sense of "early installment weirdness" that the other spinoffs don't have (even Oriko Magica, which was published at the same time as Kazumi Magica). I'm a sucker for all things PMMM so I enjoyed it anyway, lol.
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muffinrecord · 1 year
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I have a question about Arc 2 and Infinite Iroha (I can’t bring myself to read the story myself because the concept of someone being erased from existence like that makes me too sad). Is there anything that could have been done in-universe so that Iroha didn’t have to become Infinite Iroha and be erased?
It's hard to answer this since all I have are the chapter summaries to go off of and not an actual translation that I can read line-by-line. Also tbh I still don't 100% understand the final chapter in all its nitty gritty details-- I have a good idea of what happened, but I don't want to dig in too deeply into it because I feel like that'll spoil it slightly for me when it actually gets a translation I can watch.
That being said, I think I still might be able to answer this...? But it's two separate answers:
Answer One: No.
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Iroha realizes in this final chapter a very sad truth-- in every timeline except for this one, she dies. This is the only one where she lives. And fate has come to balance its checkbook.
Before anything else, I want to quickly point out that Iroha being Kimochi-fied isn't actually what erases her-- she was able to be a Kimochi ver when she helps Rabi not destroy everything after all:
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This form of hers is just Iroha, Ui, and Little Kyubey all combined into one being.
The reason she's erased is... uh.... actually I can't really give a solid answer to this, beyond that she's put a lot of burden on her soul-- she took in the Mirrors Witch out of compassion to show the witch (which is the amalgamation of many magical girls and their pain) a miracle. She then rewound time so that the fight never happened, erasing the witches' minions. Then she had to undo the uwasa-ification of all the magical girls which is apparently a mega burden on her soul, and I think it's implied she's doing other things behind the scenes.
In a way, it's very Madokami of her, but to a lesser scale. After all, Madokami was forgotten by everyone except for Homura, and Iroha is "only" forgotten by non-magical girls. Everyone else still remembers her, even if they can't see or interact with her anymore.
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(It's also kind of implied she might be coming back, but it would be far off in the future...? I'm not really sure.)
In a way, this is the kindest kind of "death" Iroha could have been offered, and when you compare it to Madoka, Iroha had a much gentler version of being erased. Her friends still remember her and Iroha isn't alone-- she still has Ui, Little Kyubey, Sakurako, Touka, and Nemu by her side. Her friends still visit her by Sakurako's tree, and even if they can't communicate, they can be alongside one another.
It's interesting when you think about it. Iroha, the girl who could only live in one timeline, became Infinite. In some ways she was erased, in some ways she was stamped into time permanently, so that she can never be truly gone.
So in one sense, I think that Iroha can't have been saved. It was her fate, something like this was going to happen to her all along. She's stubborn about wanting to help everyone, and she has her own version of a happy ending, even if bitter sweet.
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However...
Answer Two: Yes
See, there's another thing here. Magia Record, at it's core, is not a story about how one special fated girl is able to save the world. The series' themes are baked right into its gameplay-- connects are a big feature, teambuilding is important, and synergy is important.
This story is always stressing that connection, friendship, companionship, and understanding are what saves lives, not solo acts of greatness. When a girl tries to abandon it all and forsake the world, her friends come to pull her back. When a character feels like her destiny is too much and she can't possibly do it, her burden is carried by those around her. And these characters repeatedly learn that lending out a hand to someone else also in turn saves them.
Arc 2 has a lot of darkness, but a lot of light. Characters die, but characters are also saved-- morally gray characters are redeemed to the point of frequent fan frustration in fact. However, I think this is a deliberate choice of the writers-- it's very clumsily done in some ways so don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's a matter of the writers being too scared or cowardly to make a character actually evil or to let a character be irredeemable by the text (to be clear, you might disagree with the text and the actions of its characters but I'm talking about what the text states itself).
Arc 2 says that suffering causes suffering and that understanding and connection is what will save its characters. It says that everyone deserves a chance at redemption. It says that no one should be left alone.
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Which makes the whole Iroha thing kinda weird, doesn't it?
Every faction leader has to learn something in arc 2. Every faction leader has to change in some way, to amend their thinking. Each faction leader needs to be saved by their own faction in many respects, and the connections and friendships they built are what make them saved.
So the question is: how has Iroha changed?
I think Iroha starts and ends arc 2 in a similar way-- she wants to save everyone. She starts off not wanting anyone to suffer and she ends it the same way. She retains her stubborn nature. In the end, she makes the decision to take on all the pain and suffering and deal with it on her own.
Ui, Little Kyubey, Touka, Nemu, and Sakurako are there. But this isn't Iroha getting saved from her fate like how Himena was saved by Sasha. This is Iroha falling in lockstep with it.
I think the answer to your question would be that Infinite Iroha shouldn't be Alone Iroha, but saved by those around her. An Iroha who let herself be saved instead of trying to save everyone else.
If Arc 3 does actually happen, then I think it might be something along these lines-- a story about how you don't need to take all the burdens in on yourself. Everyone else was able to change, and Iroha could too.
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Anyways that's my long-winded answer. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I can't sleep and it's hard to articulate.
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nighty-amy · 1 month
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I did hope to get a destiny gem out of either Akumura or Madokami but didn't expect to get TWO and on STEP 1. That's crazy good news for me because I have now 10 destiny gems, meaning I don't have to worry about Yuu banner coming soon. I can easily take her from the store and save my pulls this way.
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xenosagaepisodeone · 1 year
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(i am so sorry for the wall of text)
personally my problems with homura in rebellion have less to do with like, how morally justifiable her actions are in an in universe context and more with how shes framed. like yeah it makes sense that she wants to free madoka bc madokas ‘godhood’ forced her to martyr herself only to still be trapped within the incubators’ system, but then the scene comes where homura grins evilly and pulls madoka out of the sky while madoka yells and protests and then homura turns into satan and the camera pans over her sexy satan outfit while she monologues about how her love for madoka has made her into ~the devil~ and suddenly its really hard to read all that stuff in good faith anymore. like idk, the concept of homuras love for madoka leading her to disregard madokas agency in order to do what she thinks will protect her could be interesting but everything about the way that scene actually plays out (the sexy satan outfit) just kinda feels like homuras love for madoka is being presented as like, an evil corrupting force which doesn’t have great implications lol
that is generally what the film presents, but what piques my interest (and honestly makes me more comfortable in creating an alternative reading) is that they don't really 100% commit to that reading either. rebellion takes place as homura is actively falling into despair. she's virtually an unreliable narrator, emphasized further by how the world of the film is a figment of her own psyche. one thing that rebellion makes clear as homura grows closer to becoming a witch is that she hates herself. in her pseudo instrumentality sequence she is depicted as despairing over being unable to save madoka, and then being judged by towering figures that resemble her when she was squirrely, meek meganemura. her failures remind her of her weakness, and her weakness resembles who she was at the start of her journey: a helpless girl who would watch madoka die. her final witch form depicts her inching towards a guillotine because she would rather die than fail madoka. homura sees herself as beyond redemption for betraying madoka, but will madokami in all her shining compassion and forgiveness see her as the same when she returns?
idk homura taking on the role of the devil came across to me as guilt and self flagellation. she knows that depriving madoka of her agency is wrong, but she can't live with herself in a world where madoka is unable to be happy. when sayaka asks if she'll destroy the universe when she's finished destroying the wraiths and she says "yes", it's clear that she doesn't mean that, but it's what an enemy of madoka would say. if madokami returns, it wouldn't surprise me if homura asked her to end her life.
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tyrantzeye · 10 months
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guys ok since im never gonna finisj my rebellion essay im nust gonna ramble here and pray its coherent. wish me luck
first point im gonna start crying ab the plot im yonn ro it in chronological order if u wanna skip2go rrad my thoiguts oknthe movie and transformati9ns n details n dtuff
so homura after madoka becomes god is like overcome with despair n is talking 2kyubey ab madoka kaname(the law of cycles) and the incubators traps her b4 her soul gem turns and homura in this weird limbo state beyween magical girl and witch makes a labyrinth of ALL OF FUCLING MITAKIHARA CITY and invites all of the holy quintet in unknowingly cuz her memories are reset and tjeyre magical girls and theyre fightinh nightmares and BEBE???? AND BROS LIKE DANXING AROUND EVERYWJERE AND "late nights are the enemy of beauty"I LOVE MAMI AND BEBES DYNAMIC anyways after some quality time (haha "this feels like sometjing ive been wanting for a lonh time") homuras like "haha wait a minute!" and so she goes 2 kyoko whos from tje next town over originally n is like "hey shawtay do u know whats going 9n" n shes like "no lets go out of town and oh my gosh the town i am from is not real shawtay" n then tells homura that shes better actin all tough n then homuras confused and is like "wait so i remember BEBE being a little WITCH BITCH so lets stop time" N THEN THE FUCKING FIGJT ENSUES MAMI FINDS HER N SHOOTS AND HOMURA SHOOTS N TIME IS STOPPED N EVRY BULLET IS AIMED PERFECTLY TO SHOOT AANOTHERAND MAMI IS COMFUSED AB IT ANDTHERES NOWJERE LEFT FOR THEM 2 GO AND HOMURA REPLAYS TIME AND ALL THE BULLETS SHOOT AND THE SOUNDTRACK WHIPS im honna learn it onthe cello N HOMURA SHOOTS HERSELF?????? BUT SHE DOESNT????I NEVER QUITE GOT WHAT JAPPENED BUT SHE STOPS TIME AND TJEN SHOOTS MAMIS LEG N SHE UNRAVELLS AND IS RIBBONS NHOMURAS CAUGJT N MAMI DOESNT UNDERSTAND WHT SHES SAYING AB THIS WORLD BUT MAMI REMEMBERS WHAT WRAITHS ARE AND HOMURAS LIKE "NOOOOOOOOOO" AND SHE RUNS SO SPEEDY (sayaka is carryinh her) CUZ NAGISA MOMOE(BEBE) & SAYAKA MIKI SAVE HER omg sayaka diaolog and homuras likro"omg u remember??????" n nudges homura along 2 think ab it n realizes that 3 people dont belonh here n "would you be okay destroyinh this version of mitakihara city?" n homura monolog cuz shes gay BUT THEN MADOKA JUMPS OFF A FUCKING BRIDGE FOR HOMURA WHOS ON A BOAT n they go back 2 that garden n kyubeys there n did i mention tjat kyubey only says "kyu"for now n homura has this talk w madoka tjat i will takk aboit later bc its such a turning point in the story i swear its at least a mini climsx on the plit mountain & its so gay faggot nstion rise up n syand for the anthem(pmmm ost) n homura leaves madoka worried and kyoko gets a call from homura "this is like some kind of bad joke....for real...."
(para break 4 the climax) and hmura realizes shes a WITCJ and tests this via her soul gem and why does her pjone fucking glide like a leaf n yeah she knows shes the witch nowni will talk ab this sequence later as well cuz the imagery is beautifully executed n kyubey starts to talk as the labyrinth kinda collapses n homura realizes that the incubators did this to her n kyubey hss tjis whole speech nants homura ti call for madoka and homura realises that kyubey wants 2 control madoka bc b4 now tje law of cycles was a hypothesis n homura keeps squishing kyubey n it doednt understand why shes mad n shes mad bc she wants meguca to be safe n she wants 2 die in the isoñation dield and omg the homura witch brcoming scene and the rest of the quintet come to ssve her in such a cool battle scene and PARMASEAN A REGGIANO and omg the sayaka silhouette reference and sayaka and nagisa are madokas secretaries and kyoko x sayaka omg i love tjem and they save homura to her own dismay and you csn hear in her voice what shes going to do and mami & kyoko witness the law of cycles and madokami/ultimate madoka saves homura but then homura RIPS MADOKA FROM THE HEAVEN. HER SOUL GEM IS TAINTED BY LOVE. MORE PSSSIONSTE TJAN HOPE, MUCH DEEPER THAN DESPAIR - LOVE. OH NY GODDDD SHE BRCOMES THE DEVIL AND USED THE INCUBATORS TO RID THE WORLD OF THE WRAITHS ANF SSYAKAS PISSED AT HER N DOESNT KNOW WJY N I OVE THIS INTERACTION anyways madoka kaname comes to mitakihara as a transfer from the us and homura shows her around campus and madoka starts to remember tjat she isnt human but homura stops her n is like "do you treasure tje world you live in or would u break its rules 2 follow ur heart" n madokas like "ummm dont break rules" n "oh i suppose one day u will be my enemy" n its sad n madoka ribbion n the movie ends
so ny immediate thoughts are always "WHAT THE FUCKKKK"ok so i adore this movie so do mucj tbis is fuclinh genius n evrt im e i watch ot i realize smth new and homuras despair is so felt througj the entire thing and nothing compsres to how fuckinh well written her arc is and i love love love love love love how her love is portrayed n u realize that she doesnt love herself and neither does madoka and i tjink its just fonna be a loop of them circlinh sround eachother until they say it rireftly bc theyre god and devil and catholic stuff homuras catholic bc its weird bc god and devil r kinda working towards the ssme goal in a weird way thats never really broigjt up n this is reflextes in rebellion they both want a happy world but tjat world csnt exist bc 1. their visions clash (a world qherw madoka can be happt vs a world where every1 else except r madoka can be happy) n 2. until they both love tjemselves enough to sustain eitjout the other at least neither will be happy cuz how can u love someone else when theres no love within kr left 4 urself and homura doesnt seem keen on letting madoka go and madoka doesnt seem to want to be here due 2 her belief that she gets in the way and ywaj iys just a giant cycle and i think that homura did do the rigjt tjinh bc otherwise the incubators wouldve probably tried to control madoka and it was tje only way 2 potecy jer & she didnt rlly destroy the law of cycles she only riped away the madoka part n imo its unclear if magical girls still exist i tjink tje wraiths e gonns hsve 2 be extinguidhed by tje incubators themselves AND WHAT EVENNARE WRAITHS BTW. i need2watch magia record anyways i also love every single sayaka interaction bc she cherishes homura obv but also believes tjat madoka should stay the same as tje llaw of cycles and i domt think sayaka wil end up being homuras enemy bc in the same way the end form of magical girls is a witch, a creature of despair, the end form of a human, for all humans do love sometjing even if it is small, the final form is a godly entity of some sort: a creature born of the chaos that is love ykwim? n in the ssme way sayaka sympathizes with witches i think she will cmr to realize where homura is cominh from and her and tje rest of the quintet will act as sort of a middle ground once they realize whats happening amd i think thats where this is going bc this series is a masterpieve and no nasterpiece exists witjout msking u sob over philosophy
ok so i wanna just talk ab the madohomu garden scene bc its literally so important. madokas love is rly portrayed here so well bc its clear that homuras fucking lovesick but like madoka is also so gay. like. howd they name tje last episode of the series "my very best friend". snyways we see madoka exhibit healthy communication behaviors (ifu want u can always talk 2 me im here 4 u i migjt not be able 2 help but its better than dealing witj it alone) n u can see how badly dhe wants to help homura n tjen tjeshot wjere u csn see the wjole garden n both of thrm n the cityscape ⬇️
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shows them as equals (foreshadowin?) esp cuz weve almost always seen homura viewinh madoka as infinitely above her esp considerinh the god stuff but rn they can be human and full of flaws n juzt overall equal rn and tjats beautiful fr. anyways hmura had a "dream" (the plot of the series) n madoka hears about how lonelyn sad n scared homura felt n how she felt that she was lying 2 herself for so long and homura runs down the hill and collapses, placing her below madoka kaname once more. madoka places tjem at the same level again, but fails to see how real this "dream" was. madoka as she is now thinks that this is just a dream, just something fabricated by homura - as homura thinks madoka was for so long. and madoka says tjat she could never do that - not to homura, someone whos so strong and capable, she could never make her cry snd could never leave her friends behind. and homura can tell tjisisnt true because to her it was real, to her it happened in real time right before her eyes after 12 years worth of tryinh to save madoka over and over and over. "you know how wimpy i am, and because i could never do something that would make someone as strong as you cry like this." n in the dub madokas like "it would bresk my heart" but in the sub homura says "then for you, thats something that hurts you so much you couldnt bear it?" and madoka agrees and homura fails to see that madoka kaname, without her memories, doesnt grasp the realness of it and solidifies the idea in homuras mind that the real madoka would never willingly leave her behind, regardless of the circumstances.
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and the moonlight shines over tjem like a spotlight and homuras reality has been shattered. madoka doesnt realize tje weight of her statement and homura in this moment knows that she is the witch. and shes put the only person shes ever cared about in jeapordy. and it cuts to different scenes of them talking, before homura eventually has the information settled in- like this was the last piece needed to set in place tje rest of the story yk? and dsrkness spreads over the flowers, and she begins to blame herself - how could she let the most amazing person leave? how could she fuck up that badly by letting her escape? and homura tells her that, no matter what, madoka kaname is capable of making "yhat hard decision" andthe flower petals fall and the core-thingies glow and rise dandelion style and leave the field empty, showing that nothing else matters to homura and madoka is confused af! cuz she doesnt remember and homura knows deep down that shes holding the real madoka and you van hear the bliss in her voice and her expressions and its so goddamn powerful. but she has to go now, has to confirm her suspicions. and i honestky think that this scene is felt throighout the rest of the movie and this scene is where homura realizes that if she is the witch she has to die here so that she doesnt do yk what she does do to ultimate madoka bc clearly she understands that its wrong logically but also after knowing that the incubators want to control madoka that seems like its the best thing she could do to protect her yk? anyways i love this scene this is my favorite scene in the whole franchise fight me.
n now last thing i PROMISE i wanna talk ab homuras witch transformation starting at thetrain I LOVE THE OWL IMAGERY SO SO MUCH ABOVE THE CLOVKS N SHIT cuz owls symbolize like transformation which is literalky what we r watching happen from magical girl in2 witch n the bus lights on fire n the chanting begins and th world destroys itself becoming a fiekd of chaos and hands taint her soul gem and she shoots it and shes in shock and um cut to her labyrinth cuz HOLY FUCKKKKK the littke guards to show shes like protecting madoka n i LOVE the color scheme of the weird curse things n the broken gkass n the gears n oj my god does it take place in a COLOSSEUM??? and HELLO THE DRIPPY BLOOD THING ABOLISHING THE FUCKING PRAISING ARM HOMURAS and the skull tjinhg af oh my god i love 5his so much n the blood pool stuff i couod keep goijg 4ever i lobe the homulily nutcracker labyrinth n the nutcracker part is brilliat cuz shes "protecting" from the incubators n idk thats my thoighrs 4more organized stuff go here https://madoka.fandom.com/wiki/Homulilly .
i give up for now but i might edit this in yhe future or smth. send asks if y wanna know my 5hoifhrs on other stuff ilyasm
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venus-42069 · 5 months
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i’m at this dumbass school again 😭😭 madokami save me…
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duessperare · 1 year
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okay, i listened to madoka’s character song and i have FEELINGS-
initially, i said that madoka was actually happy with the way things were as a goddess. LOL WRONG i’ve since changed my mind! i think it was actually an incredibly painful, torturous experience for her, and that she was mostly putting on a happy face in order to try and ease homura’s suffering.
on top of that, she knows her wish didn’t stop homura’s suffering at all - and she feels awful about that. when she made her wish, she genuinely believed there was no other choice or way forward but to sacrifice herself in that way, because if she didn’t, she’d become a witch anyway, and homura would never be able to save her. if she did believe that there was a way for homura to be happy... she very well might have made a wish for that instead.
or maybe not. who can say? madoka’s not even sure herself. she wants to save everyone, but she wants homura to be happy the most.
either way though. she is happy that she was able to free homura from a life of endless looping. ironically, despite being an embodiment of hope for all magical girls, she had no hope herself of homura ever being able to properly save her. i might change my mind on this if i end up feeling it’s too antithetical to her character, but... she still refused to give up on hope of helping homura, and concluded that stopping her fight and making homura believe she was happy was the only way she could do it.
this actually makes homura right in her assessment of madoka’s situation in rebellion. even so though, she forgot to take into account that in spite of how painful her existence is... madoka would rather have that than have homura suffering for her sake ever again.
my ideal ending would probably be like, some compromise between the two systems, but i don’t know how that would work... i’ll still have to develop a headcanon on that.
BUT ANYWAY thank you madoka character song for making me do a 180 on my views of madokami because i can’t get enough suffering appARENTLY-
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catgirlcommie · 3 years
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literally the phrase "the bravest magical girl in the world" makes me want to sob in a way nothing else does
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abyranss · 2 years
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In Magia Record, Nagisa pulls a Rick and Morty and steals the identity of a now-dead alternate universe version of herself while escaping the Law of Cycles.
"So the Nagisa from this universe has already become a witch... Well, having two of me around would pose its own problems, so I guess that works out."
Madokami sends this pink Kyubey to act as her eyes so she can keep an eye on Nagisa. Madokami cares about the girls she saves. Nagisa does not appreciate it.
"Hm-hm. Well, for now, the first thing to do should be to secure my freedom!" (Nagisa then proceeds to blow up Pink Kyubey with her trumpet)
Unfortunately, Madokami just sends another later on and Nagisa ends up having to ignore them while she comes up with a new plan to escape the reach of the Law of Cycles.
I find it so interesting that Nagisa's quest for true freedom also includes escaping from heaven into a godless land and attacking any agent that said god sends after her.
Homura, you called yourself a devil? I think you have some competition. She even turns into a serpent! Sort of.
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