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can you do a scenario in which sasuke is completely obsessed with the reader, sends her lewd pics of heeself, scares her to the point that she avoids him but also everyone around her cuz he wont let her make friends, also him finally locking her in the class with him (some noncon if u can)
The Gingerbread Woman
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Inspirded by the song the gingerbread man
Warnings: Yandere themes,nudes,hints of NON-CON,dark content,possiveness, cursing,modern AU, real dulu yelling out my woman, yes he's a little dulu.
Paring: Yandere Sasuke x reader
I am ETREMELY sorry for how long this took.
You couldn't believe what you got yourself in it.
How the fuck did this happen ?
Well that's something you didn't really know to be honest.
I mean you stayed away from him and you didn't talk to him, expect that one time you helped him with the missing notes he missed but that was it.
You didn't know he liked you,well he sent nudes to you of himself once but you didn't think he would go this far.
Locking you into an empty classroom with him, You had to stay behind in school to finish some work and then you had to clean up and put away but you had thought all the students left besides the one who had club activities,as far as you know Sasuke wasn't in a club and normally stuck to himself so why was he here then?
This made you uncomfortable as you looked at Sasuke as you two stayed deeply into eachother's eyes,like a staring contest.
His eyes were dark and black as a shadow with a hints of sinister-ness and something else you couldn't put your finger on at.
Whilst you looked into his, you're eyes were e/c looked into his with hints of uncomfortableness and confusion.
You had your back turned to the door as you cleaning when you heard the door open, you turned your head thinking it was a teacher but it was Sasuke......it was like if he knew you were here and didn't leave school...............how strange.
Oh good afternoon Sasuke,......is something wrong did one of the teachers sent you here?......I was just about the leave I was just packing my bag and cleaning up.
You avoided Sasuke after you saw the nudes he sent you and blocked his number and deleted it, even tho you didn't tell anyone you still felt very uncomfortable with being with him right now it felt uneasy. As the air hang thick feeling claustrophobic and heavy,as you awaited his answer.
He only nodded.....slowly, and looked around and watched as he opened the door again and looked outside.
Which was a red flag from the beginning but you didn't think about it since he was probably felt awark after he sent you his nudes and you blocked him, you nodded as you turned around to finish packing your bag when
*lock*
Whipping you're head around as fast as lighting to see just what the hell happened.
You saw Sasuke now inside the room with you,the door now locked and closed as he looked at you before slowly walking up to you.
Um.....What are you...doing?
You quoted, backing away from him as your eyes went wide trying to process what to do.
He said nothing only walking towards you, before finally opening his mouth.
......Y'know your such a strange girl....you know that I'm in love with you....but instead....of rejecting me... you completely just ignore my feelings right in front of me.... with no problem....at all...
He said his voice deep and raspy and low as if he was struggling to find the words to speak,as if.....he couldn't breathe like was gasping for air but he couldn't get it.....no matter how hard he tried.
When sent you pictures of me you didn't even text back you just blocked me....I thought you would have told someone but you didn't...not a soul...as If,it was a normal thing like it didn't happen.
And y'know what really get's me? hmm?... you passed me everyday in school like it was nothing... like you just didn't care!, yeah you avoided me....but you didn't even say a word about it to anyone! not even a peep.
Like this didn't matter....I didn't matter!....to you....my feelings and emotions don't matter to you... everything I've done to get your attention doesn't matter-
He paused quite literally in his tracks as he looked down before placing his hand on his eyes rubbing nose bridge before chucking to himself.
And y'know it's really laughable hahaha I've tried almost everything! to get you to acknowledge my feelings for you,my love for you! but still no matter what I seem to do you never acknowledge them hahahah!
And no matter how try and try you will never take the time and today to acknowledge them, just look at you you're not even denying it are ?
It was true and you both knew it, you knew he loved you and instead of saying anything at all you choose to ignore them... ignore him.... even before he sent you the nudes of himself.... you just didn't acknowledge but more like refused to acknowledge them really and truly if you're being honest but you didn't think he would go this far.
He looked at you not all that surprised, but not all that surprised after all that's why he had interested in you in the first place, you were so strange to him so uninterested.
But as I said that's why he likes you so much is because of that you knew you were could be hurting his feelings but you didn't care and instead of just telling him to stop and reject him you remain silent.
He looked back up at you his piecing dark onyx eyes staring at you as they looked souless like a black empty void that was filled with nothing good.
But now.....all that is going to change..... you're going to acknowledge my feelings for you one way or another.....
He picked up his pace,as feet making nosies as it touches the wooden floor boards as he back's you into a corner,as you looked at him.
Sasuke....?
Don't Sasuke me now y/n.... it's too late for that you're going to acknowledge my love for you, and when I'm done you it will be a piceing memory marked into your skin.... something of my love...... something even if you still refuse to acknowledge it you're always....always have a memory
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do you wish to talk about naruto… like I’d love to hear your thoughts on sasuke’s characterization…
oh my god someone asked me about sasuke's characterization. holy shit my time has come. i hope you don't regret this because i'm about to be very annoying
it's such a broad question i didn't rly know where to start so i think i'm going to go through some popular misconceptions people have on various aspects of his character uhhhh
loyalty: not to be all 'sasuke never did anything wrong' but he didn't really do anything wrong. leaving the village and his friends behind was out of a belief that in order to avenge his clan he had to be far more powerful than he was as part of team 7. he was manipulated by itachi (love him tho) and orochimaru who deliberately exploited him as a very young child. he was also given absolutely no support to counteract these influences. kakashi tried to give him a speech, but it was far too little too late
sasuke coped with the loss of his clan by telling himself that being alone made him strong, and being around people made him weak-- because if he had bonds, he would have something he was afraid of losing. and to go after itachi he would have to have nothing to lose. it's not that he didn't care about his friends: it's that he cared so much that he knew they would get in the way of his goal
it's worth remembering that goal was the only reason he had survived up until that point, as he says when facing itachi at the hotel. i have a headcanon that he would have become suicidal if he hadn't fixated so hard on this goal and lived for it, and think itachi also thought this which is why he insisted on getting sasuke to hate him and have something to live for
friendships: a lot of people say sasuke doesn't care about his friends, mostly because he has tried to kill them (specifically naruto and sakura, also karin and he left the rest of taka/hebi behind). again, he does care, to a painful extent. during the fight against gaara's ichibi form, he says 'i won't let anyone else close to me die'. from their very first mission in land of waves, he's extremely protective of team 7 despite convincing himself that caring about people again will be his downfall
although he's already depressed and traumatized by the time he joins team 7, he grows fond of them very quickly and protects them with his life. he also indulges in their shenanigans even though he usually acts like he's above them... but he's just a child too after all. same with taka/hebi: sasuke is supposedly colder than ever by this point, but he helps his teammates and builds a dynamic with them despite always keeping them at arms length
yeah basically people mistake sasuke's quiet exterior and snarky comments for him not caring and use his darkest moments as proof of that. but he's just very introverted, naturally sarcastic and afraid of connecting with people due to his trauma and when he does snap it's because of how much he cares, not because he's a crazy violent murderer
morality: for the vast majority of the show, sasuke is vehemently against killing anyone and even ensures that no taka/hebi members kill either. kage summit arc sasuke is at his very lowest point: konoha had led him to kill the only family he had left after killing an entire clan and traumatizing him for life. it makes sense for him to have a breaking point
it's also worth remembering that here everyone (except naruto) had given up on him and were aiming to kill him. i'm not going to go as far as to say that sasuke fought out of self-defense, but it is clear that he was fighting not in his right mind
sasuke was right to kill danzo, who orchestrated the genocide of all of his people and allowed him to kill his brother who was also a victim of that system. he was also right to want to kill the elders who were similarly responsible. the only goal of his i don't agree with is wanting to destroy konoha which he states at final valley but i'm honestly not even sure how much his heart was in this. i think he just wanted naruto to fight him but that's a topic for another post
basically sasuke did nothing wrong umm anyways on to lighter (?) topics
personality: there's a common trend in this fandom that sasuke's quiet and tough exterior is entirely an act and that he's secretly very soft. i do agree that he's silly (dumb sense of humor similar to naruto's in a lot of ways) and obviously very caring, but i also think that he's genuinely very pragmatic, calculated, and introverted. i think that in a relationship though he would have moments of vulnerability, he still wouldn't be a desperate or submissive type. he shows affection by doing concrete things for other people and helping them even when not asked
his cold demeanor is partially a defense mechanism since he doesn't trust people after the massacre. but it's also because he doesn't place value in pleasantries or hierarchy, and (lovingly) has supbar social skills.
emotional intelligence: sasuke is more emotionally intelligent than people think he is. i think it's easy to see this from the few monologues we get from him, where he's very aware of his own emotions. i think his main issue is putting things into words and communicating his feelings, not that he doesn't understand them
bonus - sexuality: vaguely related to the last point??? but mostly silly, i think because of this emotional intelligence sasuke figured out he was gay pretty early. i mean... he never shows even feigned interest in any women, and no straight person dresses like that COME ON. i think he felt some guilt due to being the last uchiha with a duty to revive the bloodline, but that he also didn't imagine himself living long enough to have a relationship so it didn't really concern him
tldr sasuke is an extremely caring character who loves deeply and desires justice for those people. he's very mentally ill, mainly as a result of a government-sanctioned genocide against his people and being given absolutely no resources to cope with that. he's also incredibly gay. and i love him so mmuch god please put me down before i write anymore
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kankuroplease · 3 months
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I don't know If you have answered this, but in tsau team kakashi from most to less likely to send nudes/lewd messages? And how they react to send something like that to the wrong person?
I have not been asked this question, so let’s dive in from most to least likely 😆
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Naruto
No shame
Especially if that line has already been crossed
He’ll send pictures and videos pleasuring himself asking if he can come over or if they want to come to his place
He doesn’t really text lewd messages BUT he will send voice recordings of every lewd thought
Has Shikamaru accidentally dropped an earbud out of his ear and Choji heard 0.7 sec of the word cock? Yes
He’s so lonely horny in his room and that sucks when they can make each other feel good 🥺
He also has private folders for his various fwb that have sent him pics
He thinks it’s not a big deal as he will delete the ones he’s not fwb with anymore and doesn’t go around showing people them
If he accidentally sends a nude or lewd audio to the wrong person (sorry Sasuke’s dad 💀), he’ll apologize and try to joke it off
It’s not a huge deal to him as he thinks he’s got a nice cock
Sai
He takes pics of his dick in different lighting just cause
He’s also got a pretty one with a piercing, so he doesn’t have a problem of showing people it
He won’t send them unless asked tho
If he did send one to the wrong person, he’d apologize and move on with his day like nothing happened
He’s not good a lewd messaging but that’s never stopped him from trying
Will drop words like cunny and rod randomly 💀
Kakashi
He sends them to Obito a lot when he’s away as a tease
He gets a thrill out of knowing Obito will see it, get off to it, and come home super eager for more
For Rin, he sends her very subtly suggestive things. Mostly shirtless “harmless” pictures he can deny are suggestive
they are, she asked for a picture of the houseplant. Not you in nothing but boxers taking a picture with the houseplant
Both of them may get extremely erotic paragraphs that they wouldn’t be able to read in public with a straight face when he’s horny enough
He has never once accidentally sent someone anything and if someone claims to have received one of his nudes, he’ll have questions for THEM
He was guilty of the unsolicited dick pick once and it still haunts him💀
Sakura
She’s flirty and has done photoshoots in basically nothing but micro bikini bottoms, so tasteful nudes aren’t a huge deal
But she’s not sending them regularly at all, only to whoever she’s dating
And it’s mostly just her tits and ass, no pussy shots JUST in case it does accidentally get sent to the wrong person
She would absolutely freak if she sends the pictures to the wrong person
Which has happened, but it was just Naruto and he has nothing but high praises for her 😂
Lewd messages is where she shines. A perfect balance of eroticism to pull her partner in for some fun
Yamato
He’s a bit worried about someone leaking his nudes, but he also likes to have a bit of fun/take a few risk
So a dick pic here and there wouldn’t hurt
No face, no case
If he accidentally sends his dick to the wrong person, he’s going to try and unsend it, have a mild panic attack, and proceed to avoid that person for the foreseeable future
He’s gotten into reading erotica and because of that, he’s gotten a lot better with his lewd messaging
A little bossy with it too if they play along
Sasuke
He’s not sending nudes
Cry about it
He wouldn’t mind getting them if it’s from the person he’s with
He’s also not one for lewd messages at least not past the bare minimum
If they want him that badly they can come over and reenact those messages
And they better be able to do just what they promised they would
diabolical
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shdwwlkrsblog · 1 year
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Stargazing with Kakashi
Gn! Reader
Tw: nothing just fluff , romantic relationship
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Kakashi is pretty quiet the whole time unless you start a convo . he's happy to talk with you but , comfortable silence doesnt bother him too .
He is just happy alone with being around you in peace beneath the clear nightsky .
You both often sit against a tree (well ,you sit against his chest and enjoy his warmth) or lay down in the grass just enjoying the view .
With kakashi sitting against a tree and you against his chest expect him to sneak his arms around you , pulling you further to him, letting a content sigh out.
Or he's busy playing with your hand in your lap . Fiddling with it , softly tracing over the scars you got from being a ninja .
Kakashi is a really good pillow so i dont think youll be getting tired from that Position soon .
Expect him to shower you with praises. He just sometimes gets the urge to praise you a lot , compliment you and just overall show you his love.
Do it to him too . You wont see his blush ,probably bc its too dark or he's hiding it , but you'll know it has the effect you want when he squezzes your hand a bit lovingly .
Now when laying down on the grass he'll be also your pillow or , if you ask him to , hell lay his head on your arm/stomach .
Please give this man headscratches then . He'll quietly hum contently .
If you rest your head on him tho kakashi will play with your hair or if its in reach of his hands kakashi will just play with your hand a bit , but its mostly just softly brushing his thumb over your hand . Its just such a calming activity you know?
You guys talk about the future while watching the Stars. However sometimes sad topics sneak their way into your conversation . If its about a experience in combat/ on a mission you had hell try his Best to comfort you and cheer you up.
Stargazing is also the one of only times he'll truly talk about his past , Feelings about it and feelings nowdays . But its still a sad topic for him so please cheer this good boy up , will you ?
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You layed next to him in the short grass , head on his shoulder staring up looking at the Stars , but your attention was on him , rambling about a recent Mission he had with Team 7 . Sakura got hit pretty bad , almost fatal . And if that wasnt enough they got sasuke pretty bad too . They are both in the Hospital currently. "I think they are going to let them out in the next 2 days or better said when their bodies are fully okay again . Naruto is busy training , it didnt sit too well with him that he couldnt protect sasuke good enough , while i was busy putting bandages around sakuras leg"
he sighed before he continued "this all couldve gone so wrong if the other ninja werent nearby and heard naruto scream . I wasnt able to protect those 3 alone , there were too many enemies" his voice a mere whisper . You knew those children really grew onto his heart , he almost saw them as his own children . You grabbed his other hand "kakashi , you did well enough . Noone can expect from a human to do so much . They didnt die bc, firstly they have been taught by you , secondly you were there doing your Best "
you tried to comfort him while rubbing circles on the back of his hand . he sighed "i know but" he began but you interupted him "please kakashi dont be so hard on yourself , you did your Best and im proud of you ." (A/n: im bad at comforting;-;) you explained and another sigh escaped his lips "you're right . What would i do without you?" He asked but still baffled by the fact he gave in so easily you just squezzed his hand slightly , smiling.
He squezzed right back "love, youre just as precious as those stars , even more" he almost whispered that . You laughed "a bit cheesy dont ya think honey?" He chuckled
You both continued stargazing occasionally talking
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lesbiankoby · 1 year
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you gotta admit tho the anime filler trying to retcon kid naruto not having friends is hilarious like yeah shikamaru and such were uhhh actually rlly nice and his friends but also i guess they got bored of him and left him alone again after. genius
its soooo dumb lsdajfklsdj you can tell the anime had uhm favorites among the cast. that episode and that dumbshit decision to have that fucking awful scene at the end of the series where sasuke is imprisoned with a straightjacket on (when naruto and kakashi CANONICALLY got him off without any consequences in the manga, which is hilarious, i love nepotism and also sasuke did nothing wrong) are like. top two worst adaption decisions. WAIT NO THE WORST ONE WAS THE ANIME CHANGING KAKASHIS SPEECH IN WAVE SO HE DOESNT SAY "NO I DONT THINK SHINOBI SHOULD BE TOOLS". there are a lot of bad adaption choices. god
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sneezemonster15 · 1 year
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Hey, I hope you're well :)
You know how one of the most famous jokes people make about naruto is " power of friendship" right? Like how naruto gets strong cuz of his friends and stuff like that. Did the anime add the power of friendship in? Like in the first arc its naruto bonding with sasuke in the land of waves and then them getting crazy over each other, then in the forest of death it's naruto encouraging sasuke to get strong and sasuke spotting naruto imposters, then in after coming back from orochimaru's lair naruto learns a new power to catch up to sasuke, in the pains arc he learns a sage mode to avenge Jiriya, and then after that it's back to sasuke. Like to me, the arc either had to do with sasuke or something else, not really the other teams ( aparts from shikamaru and the others avenging asumas death), you only get snippets of naruto interacting with the other teams. His motivation for getting strong had nothing to do w the other teams right? To me he didn't interact with the other teams much. I could of missed something out tho... so yea, did the anime add it in? Bty I've only read the manga so I'm wondering if it was changed in the anime.
Hey. Yes, I am well. :)
It's true that anime did push the friendship element featuring Naruto in fillers. There is an episode or two where eight year old Naruto, Shikamaru, Chouji, Sakura feature and it portrays that Naruto was always friends with these characters when in canon, all of these characters were categorically shown to resent, hate, or simply be dismissive of Naruto. There's also a couple of filler episodes that feature a character called Sora, where Naruto is shown to commingle with other Konoha characters such as Kiba and Shikamaru, which pushes the idea of power of friendship. There are other episodes as well where Naruto is shown to join other teams such as Gai's team or team eight on some mission or the other.
In canon, he mostly is a part of his own team, and other times, other members join him up for certain missions such as Sasuke retrieval arc or when they are fighting the Akatsuki members Hidan and Kakuzu, where Naruto is shown to value friends other than Sasuke but well, the whole point of the arc was to bring Sasuke back. Even when he fights Hidan and Kakuzu, he insists on going it alone.
Naruto mostly learns from anti hero archetype characters such as Haku, Zabuza, Neji, Gaara, Obito, Nagato and Sasuke, of course. But his relationship with Sasuke is different, much more intense and complex. His quest starts to become the hero, the hokage, the strongest ninja ever, but when he loses Sasuke at the end of part one, it becomes about Sasuke and how to get strong enough to bring him back, and becoming hokage takes a backseat. This is especially highlighted in the kage arc. He defies every single person that he respects, approves or is friends with, whether it be Shikamaru, Kakashi, Gaara, Sakura, for Sasuke.
You aren't wrong. In canon, this element of friendship focuses on his friendship with Sasuke. We only get snippets of his interaction with other teams and the most meaningful interaction that he has among those is with Shikamaru, as he is the one who consoles Naruto after Jiraiya's death. His interaction with Kiba is limited to casual insults, with Hinata it's mostly to encourage her, his interaction or lack of it with Shino is basically a canon joke, he has a meaningful interaction with Neji in the first part but it is almost entirely missing in Shippuden until war arc where he dies, his interaction with other members such as Ino, Chouji, Lee, Tenten is very limited. At best, it's casual and fleeting. In war arc, we see these characters go the extra mile for Naruto, but really, it's a war where everyone's life is hanging in a balance and Naruto is obviously their only hope. Of course, there's no malice in it. But Naruto sees it as friendship, something he always wished for, to be accepted. He has been accepted and approved by others in Pein arc and from there onwards, his magnanimity and selflessness makes him push himself further and further for the sake of the shinobi world and while everyone is fighting to the same ends, supporting him, he sees it as a team effort. But really, it was mostly him. And then Sasuke. Those two are the main act.
Fillers aren't to be taken seriously. They are written by different authors, a lot of whom don't really get the point of the manga or a character. I mean, don't you think it defeats the entire purpose and motivation of Naruto's character to be shown as being so hobnobby and friendly with all these other characters when the whole point of his struggle and tragic backstory was that he was the kyuubi vessel, always ostracized, resented and abhorred by everyone, which in turn informed his driving factor to become hokage, something which will make him finally be accepted?
So yeah. Most fillers defy canon and are basically shit. Naruto's greatest motivation in part one, to start with was to become Sasuke's equal so as to be able to be friends with him, to become as strong or more than Sasuke, which would then lead to him becoming hokage one day. And in part two, the hokage dream is there in conjunction with bringing Sasuke back, but obviously, if Sasuke isn't in his world, absolutely nothing matters. Not being hokage, not being the fated hero, not being the stopper of the cycle of revenge, nothing. That boy is crazy about Sasuke and absolutely nothing trumps that. No matter who tries to make him do it.
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uchihasavior · 1 month
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what made you pick up this character?
I decided to catch up to Naruto after a few years break and thought Itachi was nice to pick up because of the Edo Tensei arc!
how did you get into this franchise/fandom?
I've always been into Naruto! It just went dormant for a little bit, but like... you never escape lol. I began watching it on Toonami when I was in late middle school tho. U never forget the first time u see the wave arc and Haku dies......
what’s the best thing about the show/series/books/comics/etc.?
The art! Seriously, watching Kishimoto's art develop from the beginning to the end is beautiful.
what’s the worst thing about the show/series/books/comics/etc.?
Uhh. it's hard to say what I legitimately hate! I have criticisms like everyone else but nothing I hate.
what’s the best thing about the fandom?
Fanart and fanfiction! Seriously, I've gotten into so many ships that I wouldn't have given a chance if I hadn't seen fanart or peeked into a fanfic that seemed kinda interesting.  
what’s the worst thing about the fandom?
Antis, of course, but on another note the media literacy of the fandom as a whole has sunk into the negatives. Too many people taking things at face value and refusing to let the story unfold infront of them. Characters change!!
what’s the best thing about the canon you are writing?
Itachi is the only character who realized his actions towards Sasuke were is own fault and didn't seek excuses. He knows he hurt Sasuke and that Sasuke didn't owe him any forgiveness or understanding.
what’s the worst thing about the canon you are writing?
How Itachi at 13 years old is treated as if the massacre was preventable, and as if he had the decision making skills of an adult and not a kid who was groomed by both sides since he was seven. "just say no to the massacre lol". But this is more of a fandom problem, really.
have you tweaked the character from canon? if so, what did you tweak?
Kinda! But I like working with the challenge of canon, including the novels. Of course to make certain AUs and character interactions work you have to bend canon to a certain degree.
are there some things you dislike about how the show/series/etc. portray the character you have picked up? if so, what?
Not really! I like Itachi.
what would you say is the most unique trait about your character?
Itachi's self reflection! It took him dying and being revived to realize, but he fucking knows full well his "protection" of Sasuke ended up really hurting him and it's 100% his own fault.
are there any other characters from the franchise you’d like to play?
Not sure! I've already dipped into Sasuke, whom I also love with my whole heart.
are there some characters from the franchise you can’t stand? 
From main Naruto series: Sakura :( Mostly because most sakura roleplayers use her as a self insert/projection, I have to say it and it's a really pervasive problem. From Boruto: Daemon. I hate this goblin and I want him to die.
what are your thoughts on the canon ships for the character, if any?
Itachi's only "canon" ship is the implied feelings he had for Izumi! But Izumi is a nice girl, so I like the ship. It's okay!  
what is your personal ship bias for your canon character?
I ship most of the main Itachi ships! ItaKisa, ItaShi, ItaSasu. But I also like exploring "non conventional" ships! RP for me is about exploring things we can't see in canon. ItaIzu, ItaSui (Suigetsu), ItaUra (Urashiki from Boruto), ItaMada, ItaIru, ItaKarin... ItaOro (REALLY love this one), etc.
are there any ships you can’t stand, why?
Itachi/Sakura! It's the one I actively avoid specifically with Itachi. Other ships I'm "I don't see it" about are Itachi/Kakashi, and Itachi/Deidara. Nothing wrong with them, I just don't really get it!
how long have you been writing the character?
Since about 2013, so 11 years or so! Tumblr boomer.......
should people get into the franchise you're* writing from, yes or no?
yes. And this includes Boruto. This is a threat.
if you could sum up your character with one sentence, what would it be?
:)?
which song do you feel describes your character the most and why?
Unfortunately I don't have a song! I'm really bad at connecting music and characters.
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team7-headquarter · 1 year
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Really, Itachi's novel is confirming some stuff I've read on fanfics and correcting other and, check it:
1) There were sooooo many issues in Konoha that Hiruzen overlooked because he wanted to. Danzo was completely aware, tho. Like the issue with some teachers trying to ruin the career of some genins just because they were jealous or didn't think the kids deserved it.
2) Itachi's pov can be infuriating (affectionate). The kid has no idea how much of a prodigy he is and yet he knows he's above any child his age and older. Seeing him so anxious, rushing to be more and more and more powerful, failing to see the world around him because he's too busy focused on himself and his own skills... It is way worst than Sasuke on his genin era. Itachi was all work, no fun. Even Fugaku pointed it out (at the beginning, then he continued like an asshole with "he'll get over the pain of it eventually").
3) Even in a world where the Uchiha massacre did not happen, Itachi and Sasuke would still have so many issues. Fugaku did love his children, but his cold and distant nature traumatized them greatly. Sasuke was not the only one feeling pressured to reach an impossible goal from a young age, Itachi did that same thing. No wonder he later passed that same torch to his little brother. He thought that was the correct thing to do. Shisui was on this train too, don't get me wrong. It must be an Uchiha prodigy thing.
4) The novel doesn't make sense in some parts, but it's nothing irredeemable.
5) Boy, Fugaku's kids suck at the whole love thing.
6) Itachi particularly sucks at connecting with his teammates, but that it's due the difference in skill and power. He can connect with Shisui because he feels inspired and can fight him like an equal. He connects with Izumi because she impressed him with her sharingan. Itachi was arrogant and selfish in his own way. He would only spend time with people he deemed worthy or he thought would help him grow as a ninja.
6) Pretty sure Itachi awakened the sharingan pretty early, but only got to control it after his encounter with Tobi, when Kakashi's presence saved his life. I'm still not sure if he awoke it in the battlefields Fugaku showed him or when he saved Mikoto and Sasuke from the falling debris during the Nine Tails attack.
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faerociousbeast · 1 year
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actually i already rated the "canon" ships what am i doing. i know ill rate them again
naruhina: -10/10. concept is mediocre at best, popular guy x shy girl but that is literally not what is happening here. can we stop pretending its good
sasusaku: -10/10. please project onto someone else
narusaku: 2/10. they care about each other a lot so i guess its ok-er but still not very good romantically. but again if it were endgame it wouldve been not AS bad
inosai: 4/10. it makes so much sense but also zero sense and i never know how to feel about it. sai isnt a sasuke replacement tho. lavender marriage?
shikatema: 3/10. good in concept but again. see sokka and suki atla thats what this COULD HAVE been but it isnt. just bc theyve actually talked does not mean its good where are your expectations. 3 points for meeting before tho bc for some reason that is so hard in this series
chokarui: 3/10. the reason why the previous one also got 3. 3 points for this one bc i guess theres nothing objectively wrong with it but can we stop getting strong female characters move their entire lives to immigrate to the stupid leaf and rhen get dumbed down to angry housewife? please?
tamakiba: 1/10. i love kiba where did this come from tho. if we put tamaki in a crowd we would lose her. summary of all that is wrong in boruto The Pairings Were Not Planned If They Had To Make Up An Entire Ass Woman
itaizu: 0/10 bro. they were 7.
obirin: 3/10 i have.... mixed feelings. rin isnt enough of an actual character for this
kakarin: 1/10 see above
asukure: -1/10 i actually hate this one. fun fact asumas introduction is him being a misogynistic ass to kurenai, so i kinda never got over that w asumas character BUT THEN THEY WENT AND GOT TOGETHER???? for all i said ab other characters not really Having characters, kurenai really takes the cake. all this did was make her a wife and mom. cool. goodbye
yahikona: 8/10 winnnnn the background random couple of side characters is somehow better than all the main ones!!
hayugao: 5/10. idk if thats the ship name but yugao x hayate. at least they had development i guess but its just. theyre REALLY background
tsunadan: 10/10 love tsunadan live laugh love tsunadan. pairing that had the best development in the whole series and it was like. 3 pages long.
jiratsuna: 1/10 i just dont like jiraiya and tsunades already rejected him why does she have to accept him now. give it up old man
minakushi: 7/10 ive mentioned this before but while the pairing itself is nice, kushinas character gets done so bad w all her ambitions in this, and minato doesnt really have much of a character. better than the main ones but could be better.
hashimito: 4/10 see look i really think this couldve been good but then hashirama rambled about madara the whole time and didnt think to mention his WIFE! once so im kind of mad at him about that. hsmd juice sure ig but mito deserves better
hiruzen and his wife: 2/10. i feel like nobody should have to deal with hiruzen for such an extended amount of time but i remember finding her annoying too
koteizu: 100/10 obviously. of course they are canon. ostrich episode carried they carry love them
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kishimotomasashi · 2 years
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I think Naruto and maybe kakashi deserved apology from sasuke, but not sakura, because she tried to kill him first.
I think the first time Sasuke tried to kill Naruto was the worst, and definitely the one he needed to apologize for. While Naruto was by no means innocent in that first fight, I stand by that, I have to fault Sasuke for that one. The other times, they were both on equal standing, and Naruto knew what he was getting into, and they were on enemy sides for a long time.
For Sakura... idk? I agree she went there willingly, resolutely (she knocked out half of her team to show for that) and made the first attempt, but there were times he was unnecessarily callous, like nearly letting her fall in lava during the Kaguya fight (and they kind of were a team at that point, too). I think we shouldn't pretend she deserved that last part especially since she didn't. at all.
However, I don't think he owes Kakashi anything, lol.
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fictionkinfessions · 3 years
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losing my mind that 2 out of my 4 main kins are 1) a dubiously "canon" villain depending on how canon the sequel is and 2) treated like the most evil person on the planet just because i was a bit of an asshole. the other 2 are 3) constantly in the midst of a morality crisis while simultaneously not giving a shit about morals and 4) explicitly A Hero but about 2 degrees of separation from completely losing it anyway. this is fine. - dirk strider/chara dreemurr/sasuke uchiha/klaus hargreeves
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sasukehoesblog · 2 years
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- ʜᴇᴀᴅ ᴄᴀɴɴᴏɴꜱ -
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-Naruto Uzumaki-
-Cuddles?
this boy will literally jump on you once you ask, IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. IF. YOUR. IN. PUBLIC.
In school? Yes.
In a restaurant? Yes.
even in front of your parents? YES!
He will usually let you hug him while his head is on your chest PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE RUFFLE AND MASSAGE HIS HAIR.
-Kisses?
If your in public with a lot of people, No... He'll get really embarrassed and pressured if your force him to give you a kiss.
If you guys are in private, He'll shower you with millions of kisses. you protests are invalid.
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
No, He doesn't want to flex you to people. he doesn't want to treat you like some Trophy/object.
-Pda or No Pda?
93.5, Honestly the right amount for me.
-What gifts do you give him?
Honestly, he wouldn't really care if you don't give him a gift. Your love, honesty, and affection is enough. but if you do, It would be... Ichiraku Ramen duh.
-What gifts does he give you?
He literally gives you gifts everyday... Because he thinks if he doesn't you'll leave him... You tried multiple times reassuring him that you won't leave but he did not listen...
Flowers, Expensive Jewelry, and Ramen.
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
He understands how much you miss him since he works 23-24 hours a day.
; When he doesn't know why;
He will not talk back, He will listen to you to find out if he did something wrong and hug you to calm you down.
If he finds your argument irrelevant he will politely tell you what your saying is wrong. (I love him sm.)
-Clubbing?
No, He will not let you go to a club alone unless Him or His trusted friend Sasuke was with you. Who knows what will happen if you pass out...
-Dates?
He's the hokage so he can't spend time with you which really upsets you, but if he gets a day-off he'll make it up to you.
-Yandere?
No, unless... Somebody tried/almost killed you or made you really uncomfortable/tried to rape you.
He will NOT show mercy to that person.
"Ask me to bleed, I will cut my wrists. Ask me to die, I'll stab myself to death. Just please do not Leave me or Move on with someone else..."
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-Sasuke Uchiha-
-Cuddles?
Only if he considers it or sees you sad.
He will usually be the one hugging you really tight while his chin is above on your head or on the crook of your neck.
He'll appreciate it if you give him head pats (Do it, this guy has experienced enough trauma.)
-Kisses?
No, Not in public.
Private? Still no, Unless he wants to tease you.
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
No, Even Naruto would not know that you guys are together.
-Pda or No Pda?
No. (He's arrogant and has the blood of an Uchiha, You think this guy will give you affection in public?)
-What gifts do you give him?
Nothing... you don't even know what he likes... (He wants to see you naked, I'M JOKING-)
-What gifts does he give you?
Love and Affection, or more...
-How much does he love you?
he won't show it but he loves you ∞.
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
He looks down in guilt not realizing how much it hurt you leaving you for 10-11 years without telling you a reason. He will make it up to you tho but he still won't tell you why he left.
; When he doesn't know why;
He honestly wouldn't even care or listen, He'll just wait until you stop and cuddle you to sleep. (Cause' he knows that you'll always forgive him.)
-Clubbing?
No, Definitely No clubbing or drinking.
-Dates?
As long as no one's there with the both of you.
-Yandere?
He won't show it... but he's 100% yandere, Just seeing you talking to a guy even if it's Naruto makes him want to assassinate the whole village.
"You will never be allowed to move on with a different man, your body and soul is mine..."
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-Gaara of the desert-
-Cuddles?
When your in private, BIG YES.
He doesn't care what position, JUST PLEASE GIVE HIM HEADPATS.
-Kisses?
Private or Public, He'll definitely be embarrassed but he'll give you it anyway
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
Like Naruto. No, He doesn't want to flex you to people. he doesn't want to treat you like a Trophy/object.
-Pda or No Pda?
100% yessss, This guy is obsessed with your love, attention, and affection.
-What gifts do you give him?
He doesn't care about gifts, he already had his gift. it's you.
-What gifts does he give you?
Sand-made materials (Kunai's, Necklace's, Bracelet's, ring's, etc.)
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
This adorable Red panda is still learning how to communicate... you never got into a fight with him. (honestly, who would want to?)
-Clubbing?
He didn't know what that is and still doesn't but when he found out it involved drinking and men, He locked you up on the house for 1 week.
-Dates?
He's the Kazekage but he always asks to hang- out when he has the time.
-Yandere?
Kind of... He's the'Please don't leave/Servant.' Yandere, he'll do anything you ask. One time you jokingly told him to kill himself but you regretted that soon after, he tried jumping off a building but his sand/mother saved him. (you were lucky that he had the sand.)
"???"
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-Sakura Haruno-
-Cuddles?
Yesssss anywhere anytime (Unless she's healing/dealing with a patient.)
-Kisses?
Big yes, even In public. SHE NEEDS YOUR LOVE AND AFFECTION.
-Does she flex to people that you are hers?
Yes, she wants everyone to know you guys are dating. So nobody would bother flirting with you.
-Pda or No Pda?
100% Yes, She's obsessed with your touch.
-What gifts do you give her?
Anything she wants but she rarely asks for gifts.
-What gifts does she give you?
She gives you gifts everyday, just to show how much she loves and appreciate you.
-How much does she love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When she knows why;
She'll apologize and cry in front of you.
; When she doesn't know why;
Same thing.
-Clubbing?
Just like naruto, If you have a trusted friend with you she's okay with it.
-Dates?
Just like Naruto, Sasuke, and Gaara. She rarely has time because she has to deal with injured patients. (and she has her own hospital.) She spends time with you when she can.
-Yandere?
100%! she's very needy, clingy, loving, but brutal to other people flirting with you. (Even if it's Sasuke or Naruto, She'll Cha! them.)
"We are destined to be together, The gods in the heaven made us to be together. I am your Wife and your Happiness, You can never find someone better than me."
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-Hashirama Senju-
-Cuddles?
When he has the time, IT'S TIME TO MAKE YOU SMILE! SO MANY HUGS AND CUDDLES!
-Kisses?
YES! YES! YES! YES!
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
No, but he always talks about it to Madara and Tobirama. Which annoys them.
-Pda or No Pda?
YES! YES! YES! YES! He NEEDS your touch every 0.0001 SECOND.
-What gifts do you give him?
Anything he wants but he never asked.
-What gifts does he give you?
Just like Sakura, he gives you gifts everyday. just to show how much he loves and appreciate you.
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
He gets depressed.
; When he doesn't know why;
Same thing.
-Clubbing?
Your not going if he's not going.
-Dates?
He's the hokage and the god of shinobi, So he can't spend a lot of time with you... unless you won't sleep until 4 AM-
-Yandere?
No! He does not want to be too obsessive, he also does not want to be possessive either!
"I love you so much and you know that, I will always be by your side and you should be there for me too... Let's be together forever til' death is upon us."
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-Madara Uchiha-
-Cuddles?
He might be stubborn, irritable, and Hard-headed. But this guy will do anything for hugs.
-Kisses?
If he feels like he's not showing you much affection.
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
No, but Hashirama and Tobirama will notice how close you 2 are.
-Pda or No Pda?
... He's a fucking Uchiha of course no...  (Is it even Madara if he gives you affection in Public?)
-What gifts do you give him?
If you give him a gift he will start scolding you for'Wasting' Money, even when it's his birthday.
-What gifts does he give you?
No, No gifts at all. He wants you to be humble and work for it yourself.
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
Feels guilty or just pity's you.
; When he doesn't know why;
He's an Uchiha with pride so, all he has to do is give you a kiss and that already convinces you to forgive him.
-Clubbing?
Hell no, you are not going.
-Dates?
The dates are always at home.
-Yandere?
He's not a yandere, he's more like a possessive Bastard.
"Nobody deserves you other than me, and Nobody deserves me other than you!"
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-Tobirama Senju-
-Cuddles?
Just like Madara. He is stubborn, irritable, and Hard-headed. But would do anything for hugs.
-Kisses?
Yes.
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
No, Hashirama also didn't know you guys were together until Madara Pointed it out.
-Pda or No Pda?
Holding hands after the word got out.
-What gifts do you give him?
you always cook him his favorite'Fresh Fish' twice a week.
-What gifts does he give you?
Roses or Ninja tools.
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
Feels really guilty and asks his brother and his enemy Madara who laughs at him for not knowing what you like while Hashirama gives him advice.
; When he doesn't know why;
He's confused.
-Clubbing?
Hell no, you are not going.
-Dates?
He's the hokage and I'm not repeating the details again.
-Yandere?
Definitely not a Yandere.
"You are an Interesting and humble woman, that's why I loved you on the first place."
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-Obito uchiha-
-Cuddles?
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
-Kisses?
Yes!
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
he's didn't tell anyone, fearing that you might get stolen away from him.
-Pda or No Pda?
Sadly no.
-What gifts do you give him?
your always in his Kamui or In the secret hideout, Your not allowed to get out.
(The Akatsuki members were always confused why you were always there but not doing anything.)
-What gifts does he give you?
Roses or your favorite food (he secretly stole it from the hidden leaf village.)
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
Feels really guilty and Depressed and Asks Konan for advice. (Yes, Konan knows about your relationship with him.)
; When he doesn't know why;
He's confused, but still feels really guilty.
-Clubbing?
Hell no, you are not going anywhere or else your trapped in the Kamui Dimension for 1 month.
-Dates?
He wants too but he can't, so there is no dates... (Wtf did you expect?)
-Yandere?
HE IS 10,000% YANDERE! He's very possessive, manipulative, and protective. He already lost his lover once, he's not going to let that happen again.
"Once me and Madara destroy all villages and open the infinite tsukiyomi, We will officially be together... your disagreement is invalid."
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-Minato Namikaze-
-Cuddles?
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
-Kisses?
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
-Does he flex to people that you are his?
Sometimes he brags to people that he got the most 'perfect' wife. But he really appreciates and loves you.
-Pda or No Pda?
There's definitely PDA!
-What gifts do you give him?
Your homemade cooking is enough for him
-What gifts does he give you?
Roses, Expensive jewelry, and New clothes.
-How much does he love you?
∞ (Infinite)
-When you get into a fight.
; When he knows why;
he feels like a terrible Fiance and thinks you will be happier with someone else.
; When he doesn't know why;
same thing.
-Clubbing?
He trusts you enough to let you go by yourself. so Yes.
-Dates?
When he has the time, he gives all his time to you.
-Yandere?
NO!
"You are the most perfect Woman I've ever met in my Life, Makes me feel like your a dream." ---
Word count; 2196
I apologize if this is shitty as hell but I'm only a beginner soooo....
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ravysu · 3 years
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Sannin headcanons and thoughts
The last thing I would like to post for the sannin week. It is still 24.04 here! :D @sannin-central
This is long. Spoiler alert. Mostly Orochimaru, some Tsunade, a little of Jiraiya (because his story is pretty clear and spoken and idk what I can add). Also I recommend to read this meta about Orochimaru, it has influenced me a lot and has some good points. Sorry for any posible grammar mistakes. Also I really should put here a lot of references to the manga or anime but it was something that was piling up for a year and I'm soooooooo lazy. After all, those are just headcanons. Also: Im not excusing Oro's bad stuff here, Im trying to understand the reasons.
Ive already posted some hcs, here, here and here.
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1. First if all, the chronology pic of sannin lifetime based on the info i found on naruto wiki and also some statements about wars from this post. It was tough considering what a mess naruto’s chronology is.
2. Sannin story shows what it cost to be a legend. They're like Team 7 but more realistic. Tsunade literally carried the war but left with nothing and developed a ptsd and have problems to just live on. Also anger control issues. I think she can be pretty bossy and stubborn which is not always nice. Jiraiya is the hero of the day but also very idealistic and can ignore some important details in the real word whether its the fight (he always injured during flashbacks maybe because each time he took too much to handle and on the one hand it's heroistic but on the other is a mistake that can lead your team to situations like in that Iwa cave) or your friends issues (I bet he saw what's going on but thought it's fine until Oro actually got red handed and left). He lives in his world and may have problems to get out to see it through someone else's shoes. As for Orochimaru, it seems like he was a normal guy for 20+ years (I mean, he didn't do crazy criminal shit and had something good in him and it was stated somewhere that it was his teammates influence. It is obvious they considered him as a friend, I don't thinks it was for nothing) but we mostly know his darkest side. Despite being a moster he is a human that have empathy and some ordinary human traits (man just decorates every bit of an environment he is in lol).
3. Tsunade was the leader of team Hiruzen.
4. Tsunade sometimes hit Jiraiya for some stupid things he did or said but never touches Orochimaru even if he did something same. Jiraiya complained about it once and almost got another hit.
5. Jiraiya had problematic parents that didn't care about him much and a lot of time he was wandering in the streets.
6. Judging by the look of Oro bangs and hair, he sometimes cut it off. A stress relief huh? And the fact that he doesn't do it now in Boruto..
7. It was shown that Tsunade and Orochimaru was acknowledged before they become a team. Maybe they did just before, or maybe some longer time before. I prefer the second option and hc that they met because both had no real friends - Orochimaru seemed weird and scary for everyone and Tsunade was Senju so everyone wanted to hang out with her but didn't really care. They weren't seen as what they were - people put the labels on them. But they didn't care about each other's labels and actually saw each other in true lights.
8. Tsunade knew it was an accident and it's not right but still she blamed Orochimaru for Nawaki's death for some time. It was something that seriously damaged their friendship and the team. Orochimaru was mad but also guilty, after all, he was responsible at least as a shinobi since Nawaki was under his watch. So he started to act cold and emotionless and was trying to distance himself from his teammates.
9. Jiraiya was in Ame while Dan died.
10. The whole his orphans mission was a bit irresponsible tbh. They already fought Hanzo and as he stated the conflict between Konoha and Ame is going to an end with Konoha's win. It's weird to stay here for three years in the middle of the war while there were other lands to fight. He left his teammates for some idea. Maybe that caused another crack in their team friendship.
11. If Tsunade would have find a way to live on with her trauma and follow the will of fire and stuff it would affect Orochimaru as well just as her grief affected him. It's like he would get an example that you can live on with this pain. So death isn't above human capability and we are not just the slaves of mortality (sounds stupid but i dont know how else to describe sorry). But as we know what he actually saw is that it broke her crucially to the point she couldnt be herself again. And so the death is above everything.
12. Oro wasn’t just acting as a cold pragmatic bitch in that cave but also tried to save Tsunade. Jiraiya knew it and that’s why he showed this sign to him like "I see what youre doing here" and that stunned Oro because he would prefer to look rather like a cold pragmatic bitch hehe
13. Just a thought. People in the village probably treated Oro as a foreigner or just wouldnt accept him because he looked so differently and had a weird attitude. That's why he sometimes didn't feel that Konoha is his home. After the wars where people were treated as means and tools, even the children, he himself developed this view on people - he dehumanized them and used as the means to his goals, just as his village did. Funny thing some people were straightly dehumanizing him too like Ibiki thought that he was a demon (tho he was a child). And he probably weren't the only one. Anyways the point is that it's logical that Orochimaru don't care about anybody but some few people, he's the product of his era. He's like Naruto that would chose the hatred way. But naruto had some good and understanding people around him and.. Orochimaru had them too, but match how Iruka treated Naruto and this Hiruzen's "I sAw tHe mAliCe in This cHiLd fRoM tHe BegGinNinG". And oro didn't even have a big ass evil fox in him. sry i hate hiruzen
ANYWAYS the moral of the story is not "go criminal if they hurt you" but always treat people like people. Waving my hand to Kant.
14. The reason why Orochimaru didn't pick some good morals to stick with through the hard times no matter what (like, idk, Jiraiya or Naruto) is because 1) I think he is/was pretty depending on people around him 2) the war fucked him and his friends up too much (Nawaki incident + Tsunade) 3) twisted addictions (though I don't think he's that sadistic, we never saw him torturing randoms just for fun, it was always some science experimental shit. He tends to get fun out of cruelty only when it's personal) that maybe developed as a way to sublimate anger and sadness caused by his parents loss (that's what they share with sasuke - unlicke naruto, they knew their parents and it's other kind of pain. Sasuke developed a revenge issue and Orochimaru - cruelty pleasure which... is kinda the same but less epic and more occasional lol).
15. Speaking of that, Orochimaru cared for Sasuke because he saw himself in him.
16. Oro hold grudges against Hiruzen for not choosing him to be Hokage not only because he was ambitious and/or egoistic, but also because Hiruzen was some kind of a father figure for him and his approval was important tho i doubt he was aware of that. He also probably could tell that Hiruzen was suspicios about him when he was a child and that led to many conflicts and was hurting as well.
17. Tsunade knew things weren't pretty with Orochimaru after the wars but she never expected them to be this bad. During the week that she was given in her arc she thought not only about how much she wants to see Nawaki and Dan again despite how wrong would it be but also was trying to bury all the good memories she had left of Orochimaru so it would be easier to kill him.
18. She poisoned Jiraiya exactly because she knew he would not let her do it. Jiraiya was always hesitant to kill and inclined to forgiveness, while Tsunade, as mentioned by Orochimaru, could be merciless (so much so that he was not surprised when Kabuto suggested that she wanted to use Jira for Edo Tensei).
19. That was one of her traits that scared Jiraiya and fascinated Orochimaru.
20. Remember how Oro grabbed Jiraiya's neck when the latter was trying to cover with hair jutsu? On the snake, in Tsnade's arc. Orochimaru could have easily kill Jiraiya by pulling the sword out of the mouth (arteries are right there) but he didn't. As well as he could kill Tsunade when she was still shaking - just aim for the neck or the heart. Instead, he just injured her lung and kicked her which is not a big deal for the kind of shinoby like her at all.. Also he helped Anko not accidentally kill herself but it would be way much profitable to let her do it. "Orochimaru has no feelings".
21. The reason he suddenly wanted to kill Tsunade instead of forcing her to heal his arms as it was planned (which is weird since it will not going to get him heals and he kinda said that he wouldn't want to kill her just minutes ago) is that not only she refused to help him (he thought he could work it out) but she also prefered the village over him (from his point of view). Out if everyone she was the closest to being able to understand him since the village caused her painful losses too but nevertheless she agreed to be on it's side.
22. He wasn't fighting her back in the end partly because he thought he deserved that. Somewhere deep inside hahah.
23. Tsunade got a fear to develop deep bonds so they probably weren't very close with Shizune (also the way she knocked her down in this hotel.. oh).
24. Orochimaru will be here when she'll die.
25. Orochimaru's eng dub to Tsunade: "I often wondered what it would be like to ring that pretty neck yours". No comments.
26. Orochimaru is either bi/pan or ace. Anything or nothing lmao
27. Hiruzen knew about at least some of the Oro’s illegal experiments and was okay just as he was okay with the Foundation all the time. Because it’s useful. Then he has discovered he went too far OR he knew everything and oro just became too inconvenient because of his methods. The way Orochimaru tells Sasuke about reasons they are well treated as the criminals is based on in his experience with Hiruzen.
28. As you may know the lyrics in Orochimaru’s music theme goes “don’t talk with the silence of the heart”. It was taken from one Indian song that also had lines like “don’t question life too much”, ”pain arose somewhere in the chest”, “don’t speak to the wounds of the heart”. Though I’m not sure 100% because I was translating it with some hindi dictionary with like zero knowledge of hindi
29. I like to think that this “silence of the heart” theme and the fact that he called his village a hidden sound village are somehow connected. The hidden sound is the possible explanation of all things waiting to be listened to but the truth is silent and you know it deep in your heart and it bothers you. The world is silent just like the life is meaningless but people can only hear. *Sigh* anyways
30. Orochimaru’s journey is the one about accepting death. When he saw Karin released her chains while was trying to get to Sasuke he understood that the death is a part of human’s strength.
Can’t wait to feel that everything I wrote is wrong or not enough or stupid and obvious lol. Anyways, it’s something that I wanted to share until I move to some other fandom.
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mokutone · 3 years
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sorry if this is random but i was just curious about your thoughts on sai? i know you have a lot of thoughts on yamato fhdjdlfn and his and yamato’s relationship always seemed so interesting and really underdeveloped :[ theyre both really similar but yamato was able to get out of ROOT before sai was, and i was just wondering if you had any thoughts on that/him to share. sorry if this is weird or out of the blue djshfkfj love your art!!
that's not weird at all!!! actually the day u sent this question in i had finalized the thumbnails (and started on the pencils!) for a comic wherein Yamato comments on how Sai is handling his transition out of ROOT differently than Yamato himself did! I don't want to lay all my thoughts on that out here, because I think i'm much more clumsy with textposts than with comics, but I appreciate the question and I will share some thoughts!
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under a readmore tho bc. this got Long...comics force me to be concise but w/ a keyboard under my hands i just chatter
here's something I've been thinking abt! I think they had fundamentally different experiences in ROOT, and this is reflected in their attitudes towards Danzō, as well as the way they interact with the people outside of ROOT.
Sai seems to have no real loyalty to Danzō. He does what Danzō says because Danzō gives him his orders, when he practices his fake smile in front of Danzō, Danzō immediately tells him to cut that shit out. I don't think there's a lot of love lost there—when team Kakashi catches up to him in orochimaru's hideout, and they kind of confront him, and. also kind of. "give him the option" of abandoning his mission (and ROOT along with it) or. you know. facing shinobi consequences. he doesn't really seem to think much of it? honestly. i imagine he was probably a little more relieved than anything else. Add to that him remembering how he wanted to finish the drawing of his brother—
actually wait hang on thats another point I want to talk about. Sai was pitted against the person he was closest to in order to traumatize him into numbness! wack! I think that's kind of at the root (help.) of why I see him as a fundamentally angrier character than I see Yamato—and why I interpret some of his behavior not just as Not Knowing How People Work (although he does have trouble with this! it's a very different vibe. like. him trying to comfort Naruto and Naruto thinking Sai was coming onto him was an entirely different kind of situation) but as like. intentionally inflammatory sometimes...like. he's insulted the bodies of most of the people around him in one way or another, he knows it pisses them off, he does keep doing it. I think him Causing Problems On Purpose is sometimes just a way for him to try and experience catharsis for a fury he doesn't really know he's repressing. Like. idk. it's one thing to be forced to hurt yourself, that's deeply upsetting, disembodying, traumatizing, but it's another to be forced into a situation where you're to hurt somebody you love (regardless of the outcome) like. idk. its a kind of powerlessness that hits different at least ime, and frustration and resentment are extremely normal reactions to a situation like that. i think. a number of things could be appealing to him abt trying to get others to get angry at him—whether it's Him being the one to Cause another persons anger (which could confer a kind of. feeling of control) or him seeing himself reflected in their anger (like a "boy howdy i recognize this emotion. it's very clear. very understandable") or even seeing how they handle the anger. kishimoto definitely doesn't care nearly as much about Sai's anger. but i found the implication of it compelling as a kid, and I find it more compelling as an adult! anger can be an incredibly healing and protective force sometimes when dealing w/ trauma...and I wish kishimoto knew what he was writing about or that we got to see it explored more!!! ack!
yamato (as kinoe) had a wildly different experience when he was in ROOT.
we know he knew how to fight against sharingan, which. I think implies he was training in combat with Danzō, or that he worked closely with Danzō, or at the very least that Danzō used his sharingan on him. We also saw that (unlike Sai, who was rebuked for even fake-smiling) that Kinoe (at first) was not told to feel nothing, but instead instructed on how to feel by Danzō specifically. Like, mostly telling him to Feel Grateful etc, but I think him being told to experience specific feelings according to what Danzō thought was appropriate would lead to a different relationship with his emotions than Sai, who was told explicitly to repress them all at all times, and to not even attempt to preform them.
He also like. Thought. Highly. of Danzō, not just as a leader but as a person...it's kind of undeniable that Kinoe saw him as right, was willing to brand his own feelings and intuition wrong if it crossed Danzō's, openly sought Danzō's approval, when he fails his mission to secure Kakashi's eye, his reaction is. essentially immediately to return himself to Danzō to face whatever new dehumanization Danzō's got for him— even when Kakashi and Hiruzen drag him out of there he thanks Danzō for everything, and he seems genuine about it, despite. everything. He's more expressive than Sai for sure, He had like. a moment of anger, when he said that he wanted to be Tenzō, and Danzō denied him that basic self identification...but it's quickly squashed. Messy. Messy. I think. I think he has a little more trouble getting in touch w/ his anger than Sai bc of his emotional closeness to Danzō.
i think. because yamato knows that he was something more like Danzō's favorite, and that conveyed a vastly different experience than Sai's, he might feel a little complicated about being like "So...ROOT trauma, huh? Hell of a thing!" but. i also like to think that he's very quietly kind of trying to observe and support in a way which mostly allows Sai to figure himself out—I think when they are older they would probably talk about it more (also because then their tongue-seals will have finally disappeared. Thanks sasuke!), once Sai has close friends in the village and everything
Just a lot of like. "I have friendships down. I have teammates down, easily—but what am I to the old woman I buy my cabbages from. What degree of friendliness do I exhibit to her."
"I think...whatever you're comfortable with is fine. I know neither of us had particularly normal upbringings, but you don't have to execute every interaction perfectly for people to care about and respect you."
anyway god this is so long and soooo based in my own personal HCs. I hope there was something in here that was interesting to you!
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sneezemonster15 · 2 years
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For 10+ years I've been from one fandom to another, seen more than dozen of crack, doomed, one-sided, toxic and/or dysfunctional ships. Yet I've never seen a fandom like Naruto's that just cant be normal about those things. It's like half of fandom people's brain got stuck developing in some teen years, like caged animals that got unleashed. As a bypassing person who loves exploring characters,dynamics and both problematic and non problematic themes in meta and fics it makes me uncomfortable that vast majority of folks can't use rational thinking and look at things objectively. Tbh I sometimes hope they're younger than 16 and would know better one day.
Shipping wars, stan culture, lack of reasoning, projection onto characters - yes none of that is exclusive for Naruto fandom but this one seems to be lasting for years and years and in no sign of slowing down (likely due to Boruto and gaidens). Also this idea that 'x did nothing wrong' and ' x is an <insert> icon' is so damaging, there's no character who did no wrong ever or had no flaws, especially about Sasuke, Sakura, Itachi, Hinata, Konoha in general ect. Things are most often than not gray, not b/w. If you say so you get eaten alive and actually if you say anything (even state the canon) you'd get burnt like a witch and in that way it's both tale telling and ironic that this has to be sent on anon.
Hmm. I feel you. I haven't been in this fandom for very long, less than a year actually. Even so, I have observed the patterns in this fandom, as a result of various interactions and consumption of content.
This is my first fandom experience, even though my work and interests have a lot to do with media. I think it was fated that someone like me who puts a lot of effort in staying away from unnecessary complications in life, would one day get invested in Naruto fandom of all the fandoms. And like you said, Naruto fandom is just... unbelievably complex and aggravating. So many fans have so many opinions about so many things, most of them come from projection of oneself and not an objective outlook, whether it's about shipping, narrative, characterization, idea of politics, relationships, friendship, love, nationalistic values, historical context, cultural aspects or understanding of visual language and text.
People don't want to even listen. Not even to facts. I have interacted with many shippers and fans who just won't subject themselves to rational thinking or logic, even if they are otherwise capable of it, no matter how you appeal to their senses - facts, comparative analysis, appeal to emotion, text, nothing works.
I think it's hugely because Naruto universe features and breeds so many diversely controversial and even contradictory messages, those who are emotionally young, suffice and even enjoy themselves with what appears on the surface. Like you said, I also wish deeply that they are young, so that at least there is a chance for them to grow up and see things differently.
I won't deny for a minute that there are many problematic themes, ideas and their very problematic 'resolutions' or lack thereof, in the story of Naruto and Shippuden.
The whole - Is Sasuke good or evil, did Naruto do right by his core ideals, is Konoha accountable for its actions, was Tobirama in the right or wrong, was Hiruzen right or wrong, did the Uchiha clan deserve what they got, were Hyuugas in the right or wrong, was it right to keep the truth of massacre under wraps etc etc.
I usually keep away from talking about the more political themes in Naruto on my blog because honestly I don't want this blog to become a source of negativity in my online life. That isn't the purpose of this blog and I have enough trouble with Sakura and Hinata stans. But I am just bowled over by some of the takes in this fandom. Especially about politics, the notion of a village, a nation, Itachi, Sasuke and Naruto. However, since my readers send me asks about it, sometimes I talk about it. Mostly I don't. I keep those discussions for Twitter and Facebook, about actual real life events.
Most of these takes are just.... unbelievable. I wonder how people come to such conclusions without any context and information, and it's even more disheartening to see how many people agree with such takes. And these are heavy themes, important themes. They say so much about a person and their belief systems.
A lot of time I think fans just don't wanna admit they could be mistaken. Sometimes I have an inkling that they might know in their hearts they are wrong but they don't wanna look that way to their peers. Fandoms act like any other community where fake news and bad takes travel faster than truth or reason and get established as the truth, despite evidence to the opposite. Take NH and SS stans. The moment you analyse their ships, they will bring the same four panels they always do that shows Sasuke blushing or leaves flying. You put a hundred other panels and text and subtext and nuances, and you will get zilch. Nada. They will abuse you, and disappear.
I didn't have any experience of fandoms but I honestly thought they were about sharing ideas, generating content and community building. But a lot of times, they aren't. Even with subsets in a given fandom, I had imagined fandoms as a concatenation of these subsets. But no, they are completely divorced from each other, there's hardly any common ground. They can't even agree on the most basic themes that a blind person can see.
A lot of fans also don't understand causality in characters. I don't like those takes that try to prove Sasuke did wrong or Naruto did wrong. Especially with Sasuke, because the way his character is written in the story, he already has a lot going against him. The way he is established through his own actions and resultant response of other characters towards him. The way Kakashi or Sakura or other Konoha shinobis would talk about him. Kishi actually tries to show repeatedly why Sasuke did what he did, his actions cannot be thought of in black and white, like you said. But would I say, he did wrong? Just like that? Just that simply? No. Is there cause and effect in what he does and how he does it? Absolutely. So would I attach value judgment to his actions willy nilly? I won't. Same with Naruto, although I will agree that some of it is just bad or rushed writing. Kishi has a certain pattern of writing arcs and narratives, like he talks in his interviews, and it becomes clear to a perceptive reader when he isn't doing justice to his own themes.
But I can see that not everyone understands these themes or examine their resolutions with an unprejudiced head. And that's okay. All I try is to encourage or avail, at least on this blog, a dialectic.
I have come to understand that all fandoms have their faults, and having interacted with veteran bloggers and fans here, I also understand Naruto is one of the worst fandoms out there.
All I am hoping to do here is encourage healthy dialogues. It's so easy to despair over what's wrong with this fandom, and I do it all the time. Heh. I also give my frustration a vent by generating sharp or sassy content. It helps sometimes.
But just like you said, sometimes it's very disappointing and demoralising to see whatever else goes on in here.
I am hoping to generate some more content, and maybe widen my ambit of discussions a bit more. Talking of issues that I usually keep away from. Since media (and our takes on it) is a reflection of our lives. Let's hope to have more healthy and productive dialogues, without prejudice and preconceived notions.
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hellbubu · 2 years
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kakasasu hcs. im not original. they dont have to be shippy- uh since you have like a billion of them tho maybe juugo and sasuke then?
You underestimate my ability to come up with the dumbest headcanons, dear.
I wasn't sure if you meant Juugo and Sasuke separately or together so I did some JuuSasu headcanons. Feel free to send another ask asking for them separately if you meant it like that.
KakaSasu
Out of the two of them, Sasuke's the only one with a fashion sense. Whenever there's an event and Sasuke accompanies Kakashi, he's the one that looks better.
Sasuke has bought Kakashi clothes he thinks would fit the man. It takes forever to convince him to wear them, though.
Sasuke had beta-ed at least one of Kakashi's fics. It had all started when the older man told he he took inspiration from their relationship. Sasuke never expected Kakashi to write pure fluff.
Kakashi has come home (more than once) to his ninken cuddling Sasuke on the couch. He thinks Sasuke doesn't know he takes a picture or two because he thinks it's the cutest thing ever.
Most people think that because Kakashi reads Icha Icha in public, he's the one with the wilder fantasies. They're wrong. If they knew the kind of things Sasuke likes and wants Kakashi to do.
JuuSasu
They meditate together when they can. They look for a place where Karin and Suigetsu won't bother them, preferably somewhere near nature.
Juugo helps Sasuke tend and groom his hawks. They immediately took a liking to him.
Sasuke loves cuddling him because he's warm. Juugo doesn't get up until Sasuke wakes up, even if his legs all asleep.
Juugo is extremely gentle with Sasuke. Treats him like he's something precious and Sasuke absolutely loves him.
Sasuke also loves the fact that, to Juugo, he weighs absolutely nothing. He could just grab him as though he's just a life sized doll and Sasuke secretly loves it.
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