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Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning [My Movie Review]

♡ ! SPOILER ALERT! ♡

This review will contain spoilers of the movie, continue reading if you already saw the movie, or just don’t mind the spoiler! Enjoy & comment something if you want to share an opinion! ♡

After what seemed ages of waiting, Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning finally aired in Portugal, on May 16, 2024, several months after it’s national premiere in Japan, on October 27, 2023. I was worried that it wouldn't come to my country, but perhaps due to the huge acceptance of Digimon Adventure: LAST EVOLUTION KIZUNA, the distributor made the hearts of the DigiDestined from the most hidden corner of Europe warm again and brought us the sequel. Thank you remembering us once again! ♡

I really tried to keep my expectations as neutral as possible until the day I went to see the movie, which was pretty difficult, due to the fact that I was constantly being bombarded with online information about it, whether on Tumblr or Twitter, or through video recommendations on Youtube. I was so excited for the movie, that I had to control myself immensely not to go see the spoilers.

Initial considerations? I like it. In general. But let's go in parts!

This will be an analysis of what I consider to be the most important points of the movie and what caught my attention the most. A personal analysis, so don't take it too seriously if I don't talk about a certain point or a certain specific topic, I probably just missed that.

Firstly, I would like to comment on the initial dynamics of the movie.

Everything seems to happen much faster here than it did in Kizuna. Despite being two movies with practically the same time span, this one seemed to go by much faster. But it might just be me. [LAST EVOLUTION KIZUNA have 94 minutes, and The Beginning have 87 minutes total].

We're introduced to the key plot problem pretty quickly too.

People's digital devices are glitching, and the same message is repeating itself on all of them, not just on the phones and televisions, but on computers and large digital screens in cities all around the world. And this all around the world is very important, because it not only brings us closer to what will be the future of humanity and it’s increasing contact with the Digimon and the Digital World, but it opens the path we take since 2012 [time of the movie] until to the epilogue of 02 (which the production team and Toei animation seem to insist on wanting to keep canon, despite all the script inconsistencies it can cause, or how different from the initial profile of each character it may be).

“May everyone have friends, may everyone have a partner Digimon”

It's the message. Meanwhile, we are told that a suspicious and unknown Digitama appeared in the sky of Tokyo, right above the Tokyo Tower, and it’s been there for a while. Taichi and Koushiro are showned to be trying to help resolve this issue as professionals in the field of diplomacy and technology respectively, but without major progress.

I think it's important to highlight that they are the only two characters from the first season of Adventure who appear in this movie, and even so, without any direct speech or great relevance, beyond contextualization, and later Taichi as well again for the context of “space- time”, in that frame we see in the trailer of the movie with Hikari, which we later discover is located in Hikarigaoka, where Rui also lived when he had his first contact with Ukkomon.

The focus is on the characters from 02, or at least, it should have been. But as in Digimon Adventure Tri, this focus is overshadowed by the introduction of another new character in the story: Rui Owhada [or Lui, in Japanese pronunciation].

Rui [or Lui] is a much more charismatic character than Meiko was in Digimon Adventure Tri. There is no doubt about that.

Meiko was a somewhat empty character. A static character without great charisma. The only pleasant scenes she had were driven by the other characters around her (namely Mimi).

Rui doesn't. Rui is a character on his own. With a much more aggressive personality and a much more interesting past. The only issue here is the length of the movie: This movie is too short; too short for us to get attached to this character and actually be able feel empathy for everything we are shown about him. So short, that it's difficult to develop both this new character and the others around him, which, by the way, is a shame.

I mostly went to see the movie in hopes to see more from the 02 cast, and not because, again, of a random character they created for this new script. Just like what happened in Tri.

And this is important because notice that one of the most complex and best-built characters in the Adventure universe is literally the character with the most screen time: Takeru.

Analyzing Takeru's character as a whole is extremely time-consuming, because he was in every season, and practically involved in all the main events of the plot, either by himself or through the relationships he establishes throughout the plot, which feed the character's emotional charge. Which makes him a very complex character.

There's no time for that here. There is no time to establish a relationship between Rui and the other characters, nor to establish a relationship between Rui… and the audience.

Rui's childhood is very shocking and once again, Digimon brings a very strong narrative based on a complex and deep family plot.

We had already had examples in Adventure of family issues with Takeru and Yamato, Koushiro, and in 02 with Iori and also Ken. To a certain extent, even with Miyako. But here we reach a higher level of complexity... and violence (remember that the age to see the movie is over 12 years old. I can totally understand why).

Rui is physically abused and neglected by his mother, who leaves him out in the cold, starving when he makes a childish mistake or does something she doesn't like... when he is only four years old. His father has a very serious illness and depends on his wife to survive. Rui is then shown as a sorrowful child, lonely and without any support network. We've never had anything in the Digimon Adventure series so… raw. The aura of the movie is deeply heavy and dark.

The evolutions and battles in this movie are far from being the focus, which probably frustrated many people who went to see the movie for this more dynamic side of the anime.

It is a film with a moral content and even touches on the philosophical, about the bonds we create with others and their nature, about how we should relate to others and learn about them every day we have them in our lives.

It's about healthy communication, and how it's okay to correct the people around us, as long as it's made based with pure intentions. Because love is not omissive. Love corrects, love draws the other's attention for what really matters, in the form of love. In the form of companionship. Nothing physical or superficial is worth the price of a real bond.

The movie really grew with it’s audience. It is not, at all, a movie targeted for new fans of the franchise, or for those who know little about the Adventure series universe. It's for those who know the characters, for those who grew up with them. If you don't know the characters, you will miss details and conversations that are important to really understand the plot as a whole.

Daisuke and Ken look on Rui’s past with him. They see the arrival of Ukkomon in his life, who should’ve bring peace and comfort, but it is only the beginning of all his problems.

Let's take a break from the movie's plot to talk about the characters of 02.

I'm going to divide them into groups, because it seems like they individually… don't have much progress or very memorable scenes, honestly. It doesn't even make sense to separate them, in my opinion, and you'll understand why.

♡ Daisuke & Iori

There is not much to talk about them here. Daisuke and Iori are the flattest characters in the movie. Iori much more than Daisuke, let's be honest. Iori barely speaks, and has very few relevant scenes.

Daisuke works at a ramen restaurant, as he always wanted, where he gathers his friends to talk about the problems they are facing right at the beginning of the movie.

His personality is practically the same, Daisuke from 02 is the same Daisuke from The Beginning, and even the same character as in Kizuna, he is just taller here and wears different clothes. He still aspires to have his own ramen business and is extremely focused on his career goals. Which was predictable, given the way he talks about his dream in 02.

Daisuke's only two relevant scenes are seconds long: the first when he convinces Rui that the bond of friendship he and his Digimon partner share is much more than something superficial; it's something that comes from the heart, and that no object makes a difference between them, namely the Digivice, (something we also expected to hear from Daisuke in 02, which justifies my opinion that in the meantime... he remains the same).

The other is a scene that had enormous potential, but is cut short by a comical moment in which Miyako pops up.

Daisuke is talking to Ken seriously about Rui, and how he and his Digimon could understand each other better if they just communicate more effectively and directly, and Ken comments that Daisuke's more serious side is very pleasant and rarely appears. However, Miyako speaks up and dismisses the subject. Sadly.

We could have had a conversation here that could tell us more about Daisuke’s presente self and way he sees life now.

*sigh* Anyway.

Iori, again, doesn't speak much. Seems to only have intermediary interventions, and serves as a “pair” for Daisuke and Rui in the snowball fight that we see at the end of the movie. A very beautiful scene, don't get me wrong, but only if we see it from the perspective of Ken and Miyako, and Hikari and Takeru. I'll talk about that now.

♡ Ken & Miyako

Ken and Miyako are two characters who seem to grow more together than apart within the movie's plot. Which is natural, given that we know at the end of 02 that they become in fact a couple, and that they build a family together in the future. Here we see the first steps towards their future as a couple.

As expected, nothing explicit or direct is given to us about the nature of their relationship, but we can understand that there is progress, especially by the end of the movie, before the snowball fight, when Miyako tells Ken something that seems extremely vague, but actually means something.

“Let's do it together! " What? I don't think they are aware yet. Ken also seemed very confused about it.

“ Keep thinking Ken, we have to find another solution. “ We also see Miyako trying to support Ken at that moment when they have to make a decision about the future of Ukkomon and the world.

Here comes what I said above: Love cannot be omissive. We cannot expect the least from those we love. If we know the potential of the person we have by our side, we have to support them. If we see that they are trying to go further, we must support their journey and be a source of advice and rest. Alone we can go faster, but with the right company we can certainly go further.

And I think this is where the movie touches on something really important.

It is in these small moments that we see that they really want to tell the audience something beyond, but we need to have a fine power of perception.

No conversation or comment is random, everything contributes to the story. Digimon Adventure has always been made up of metaphors and subjectivities, it is necessary to know how to interpret and be attentive.

In the midst of that dilemma of whether or not to defeat Ukkomon that we talked about a moment ago in relation to Ken and Miyako, we have another moment that I consider important between Takeru and Hikari, which for those who don't know the characters, can take it as a normal conversation of two people who know each other well. Too well, even.

♡ Takeru & Hikari

Keeping in mind their journey, and everything they went through together, is the key to understand the nature of the relationship they share now. But before that:

Much like Ken and Miyako, Takeru and Hikari do not exist separately in the plot. It's ridiculously difficult to separate them. If you talk about one, you have to talk about the other.

At the beginning we see them together in the city when the electronic devices break down, and this dynamic continues throughout the entire movie.

They practically always walk side by side, Hikari takes the front seat in Takeru's car, and even when they are talking to Rui and trying to understand what happened to him in his past, they were a nucleus apart from the others. Nothing new, really. More of the same. But it's in that conversation I spoke about earlier that we understand something that is even part of the main moral of the movie: the way they now communicate with each other now, is different.

Anyone who has followed Takeru and Hikari throughout the series knows that the main “problem” in their relationship has always been direct communication.

Exposing things to others as they are is scary. And none of them were good at doing that.

Deliberating about feelings, exposing what disturbs us, what distresses us, what we think of a certain attitude of the other person. That was always Takeru and Hikari's problem and what hindered the possible evolution of their friendship, into a real love relationship.

In Tri we discover that Hikari starts to look at Takeru differently. And we know that Takeru has concrete feelings for Hikari (Said by the actor who plays Takeru's voice) And then? It's done? Things… are much more complicated than that.

They first need to accept the situation in question (And I tell you this as someone who also developed a romantic relationship with a childhood friend. It's not easy. Trust me. It's far from easy!)

And far from being quick.

It requires a lot of deliberation mostly. Just accepting the fact that we see that person we grew up with differently, someone who has always been part of our life, and we can lose them. Just because we developed feelings. Is scary. There's a lot to lose. It's all or nothing. Especially when one side has trauma associated with romantic relationships. (remembering that Takeru's parents are divorced) it's even worse.

What seems to exist between them in The Beginning was the result of a long process. But effective, it seems to me. Whatever decision they made, it went… pretty well.

Takeru is completely against defeating Ukkomon, from the moment he realizes that this could also imply the disappearance of his Digimon partner.

He probably saw the suffering Taichi and Yamato went through when Agumon and Gabumon disappeared and the suffering he would go through if he lose Patamon... again. And he is extremely vocal and firm in what he says and what he thinks about all of that. Impulsive really.

Until Hikari intervenes. Which cuts through his catastrophic reasoning. She asks him to think, opening up a new perspective on the situation.

Here we have a conversation between them that is quite lengthy (compared to the fast action standard of the rest of the movie) in which Hikari tries her best to make Takeru use reason and not emotion in his deliberation on the situation.

Takeru who, remember, whenever “darkness” or “sacrifice” is mentioned, leaves his rationality aside, becomes blind with pain because of his past traumas.

Hikari's role here is almost the same as Miyako’s in Ken's case: calling to earth and calming Takeru, always in an understanding way, because you can see that she knows where that feeling comes from and that position initially adopted by him (and it is something which she can almost predict would happen, by the speed with which she responds) but she knows that he is better than those triggers that make him impulsively speak based on emotion and neglect reason.

It's about getting to know each other. Knowing how to talk to our person about the most difficult topics. Because it is necessary to strengthen your union. Predict reactions, and be there to calm them down, because you may even know that the person is not to blame for the feelings and traumas they carry, but believe that they are bigger than them. And expect the same from the other side.

The way Miyako knew that Ken could find a solution, he just needed to think a little more. Hikari understood perfectly where Takeru's impulsive reaction came from, but she knew that if she appeal to his racional side he would be able to think of a better alternative to the problem, which he thought would be the end of the world.

That's why I separated this analysis into groups (although the first one isn't... substantial) and decided to analyze the characters together, because that's what this movie is about.

It's about who you are with your people, and the bond you share with them. In a world so individualized, so selfish and so distant (largely because of technology, which distances us from each other), I found it a very necessary message.

And the role of adults? With children and more painful lives?

It is to understand that children are also humans. Who also think, and feel, and understand things. Just like them. Adults tend to forget that they were once children themselves.

We already saw this topic being developed in Adventure 02, but seeing Rui as an adult, reaching to his mother in the past, and drawing her attention to the fact that she neglects her son, is something very touching. Sometimes, we just need a wake-up call, and we can change the future. Ours, and our future with others.

The DigiDestined of 02 encouraged Rui not to give up on someone he loved, Ukkomon, because after all, he only acted the way he acted because he thought it would make Rui happier, even though he failed. Several times.

Ukkomon basically gave Rui everything he thought he needed, everything he wanted. But this is not always ideal.

He acted with his partner's happiness in mind, and this blinded him to the risks he was putting him into. He idealized their entire relationship, and everyone's relationship with him. Instead of being, real. And real things are never perfect.

Rui wanted friends? He gave him friends. He even reprogrammed his parents. They became manufactured humans. And the movie is about reality and accepting it as imperfect as it is.

Do you know what that reminded me of? That whole fantasy created by Ukkomon of “perfect world where Rui is never sad and everything is wonderful?” The fantasies in which the characters from 02 cast were trapped in at the end of the series. That world created with the characters’ deepest desires.

Takeru wanted his family united. Iori wanted his father back and to be able to show him the Digital Word. Miyako wanted attention. Ken… wanted to redeem himself. Hikari wanted peace. It's exactly the same thing.

Think about it with me: For example, Takeru's parents could’ve stay together, they could never have divorced, but they would still have problems. They would argue, and there would be conflicts. Which doesn't mean that this wouldn't traumatize their children even more. Maybe the divorce was in fact the best option for all four of them.

Ken felt he deserved the same suffering he inflicted on others. Would that really be the answer to appease his soul?

But none of it was real.

Not even Hikari's utopia of a world constantly at peace is real. Not even the absence of siblings in Miyako's life would solve anything. Things are not black and white and really, what we want is not always what we need.

Rui just needed to talk to Ukkomon and be sincere.

Where is Mimi tho?!

I will end with a few quick notes that I think are worth highlighting: First, the music and animation in general. As expected, they are excellent.

Very well done visually, appealing scenes, and the last snowball fight scene is so simple… but so delightful.

Life is made up of beautiful moments as well as tragic moments, light and darkness.

Did you notice that part of the movie takes place in a much dark environment, and when the main action is resolved, the movie gains light? I believe that is not just because!

Visually it can be very strong because there is blood, there is violence, there are physical wounds, it conveys the affliction in a very literal way.

Another thing that was expected to happen, but that probably wasn't even thought of properly when the Epilogue of 02 was made, was the problematic of whether or not everyone deserves, has enough morals and ethics, to have a Digimon partner.

How do you maintain peace between humans when you give them free access to machines of war and mass destruction? How do we build the world we see bz the end of 02 where everyone lives in peace even under these circumstances? Which is the the role of the government?

We'll probably need one more movie to find out.

Honestly, I hope you enjoyed this short (not... that short in fact) and sincere review. If I were to give stars, I would give the film 4/5 stars.

It could’ve been better, sure, if there was at least another half hour of animation.

But I don't complain. Despite that, I liked it. I cried, I laughed, just like I cried and laughed when I saw Digimon in my childhood, and that's everything for me. I was surprised by the message of the movie and the way they chose to visually convey it to us. Either way, I hope there's one more movie. To finally conclude the arc of all these characters, and finally, reach the epilogue of 02 (but in a dignified way please).

♡ Thank you once again Digimon ♡

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seventeenlovesthree · 1 year

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As mentioned in my previous analysis posts, my memory on 02 has been rather blurry, but upon rewatching vital scenes of both 02 and Tri, it’s just interesting how often this general theme is being brought up.

Basically, there are two moral aspects the Adventure universe always falls back on:

Killing Digimon in general (including enemies)

Killing Digimon that are ALSO somebody’s partner and/or a friend

Throughout the first three arcs of Adventure, “killing” Digimon had not been an issue, as there were mainly “enemies” and the children were also (indirectly) on a quest for survival as well. It’s not before the Dark Master’s arc (and the killing of Wizarmon prior to it) that the subject of death becomes one they have to actively debate on (not including the death of Angemon here, even though that definitely left some scarring in Takeru). It’s Mimi wanting to mourn the fallen Digimon, Taichi immediately wanting to press on in order not to see more victims happen and Yamato opposing him on that, saying that he needs to let them process what happened. The everlasting conflict of “being (in)considerate” that lingers between these two here is one (of several) aspect(s) that makes them get into a fight, causing the group to split up afterwards. Mimi (and Jyou) leaves because she doesn’t want to witness more death - even though that is exactly what she has to face in the end. Taichi (who has been personally affected by the trauma of almost having killed his sister when they were children) becomes even more contemplative - and it’s him trying to reason with Yamato, trying to get them all to work together and snapping out of his “silly rivalry attitude” in order to stop all of this, not wanting the prior victims to have died in vain.

In the end, they all had to come to the conclusion that there are sacrifices that HAVE to be made. That - even with the Village of Beginnings existing - there will be losses they cannot avoid.

That is also why Yamato is the one who - in return - punches Taichi three years later during 02 once he is faltering. Agumon getting corrupted is one of the first instances where they actively have to face the idea of “killing a friend”. And due to their experiences before that, they quickly come to the conclusion that it may not be avoidable in order to achieve peace for the greater good.

And that is the theme that gets repeated again and again. While Daisuke, Iori and Miyako visibly struggle with this theme throughout the entirety of Adventure 02 due to never having had to face the idea of killing a living being, all the others have already personally seen death happen before their very eyes - and one might argue that they’re not dealing with it well either. Takeru had SEEN his own partner getting killed before (and will struggle with the prospect of it happening again in Tri once more, even hiding the fact out of sheer fear of facing it once more, as he is already dealing with abandonment issues). Hikari had witnessed Wizarmon die (and also doesn’t deal very well with whenever it happens to other innocent Digimon as well). Ken still deals with the aftermath of his brother’s death as well as seeing Wormmon die in his arms due to the mistakes he made, having to overcome the feeling of guilt as well as rediscovering his own self-worth.

If we take Hurricane Touchdown into consideration as well, it is no surprise that the prospect of killing a corrupted (!) Digimon partner of a newly found friend is terrifying Daisuke and reduces him to tears of empathy.

And then we have Hikari’s reactions seen above; let’s remember that Taichi has a tendency to be indecisive once faced with a situation that overwhelms him, so he may or may not need Yamato to punch him out of that state. To remind him to make rational decisions again, to remind him what they’re there for. That’s why we see him so calm and collected here in 02 (albeit also looking very grim about it). It’s not because he likes the idea of killing, but he knows that he has to do it and at this point in time, he has fully grasped the meaning of it. He’s also aware that the younger kids will have their issues with it due to their lack of experience and exposure. That’s why Hikari looks so tormented. She knows it as well. She doesn’t want it - her dream is to live in a peaceful world of symbiosis in which humans and Digimon can live in symbiosis without fighting one another, without having to face sacrifices again and again. It physically makes her flinch to think back to the events of 1999 once Taichi mentions it.

And interestingly enough, they will have a conversation like this again - with similar yet different circumstances.

The entirety of Tri revolves, once again, around a Digimon partner being corrupted and the children having to make the decision to end it for good. And once again, Hikari absolutely doesn’t want it to happen. She is aware of the necessity to fight, always has been, yet Taichi eventually coming to the conclusion (AGAIN) that they have to go for the kill (AGAIN) distresses her. Saying that every being of darkness has a side of light as well that deserves to be saved, hoping that there will be a way to succeed without having to compromise. And yet...

“I...”

“But that is also why...”

Taichi’s whole deal throughout Tri has been that he had felt like a coward for not being able to act. That he thought he could have seen things more clearly when he was still a “kid”. Yamato basically yelled at him again for not being sharp enough as well, for not remembering what was important, even if they had come to the same conclusion again and again and again. And it’s not like Yamato doesn’t struggle with it himself - on the contrary, it’s the main reason WHY he gets so angry at Taichi throughout Tri, because after all this time, he expected Taichi to be on the same page, to understand all this (and probably hating to see him faltering in the same way he himself once did). And yet - Yamato has his doubts about allowing a friend’s partner to get killed himself, but is also aware of the necessity.

In the end, these emotional “contradictions” (if you want to call it that) are just too understandable. Because as much as we may know that something is “the right thing to do”, doesn’t mean that it’s “the easy thing to do”. (We may even come full circle taking Kizuna into account, as this one basically demands both Taichi and Yamato to “sacrifice” their partners for the greater good as well. This time, they’re not corrupted, but the theme of sacrifice remains the center of the conclusion, as it is the price they have to pay for having lost their ways before.)

#digimon #taichi yagami #hikari yagami #anime #meta #my two cents #the child warrior aspect of digimon gets really dark the longer you think about it and it gives me shivers #it's literally the theme of the entire franchise and yet you only really grasp its true horrors once you look deeper into it #yamato ishida #digimon adventure 02 #digimon adventure #digimon adventure tri

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taichixmimi · 2 years

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WELCOME TO THE SECOND EDITION OF MICHI WEEK. ♪♫

THE EVENT

This event has been organised as a dedication to Michi. Michi is the shipname for the pairing of Taichi Yagami and Mimi Tachikawa from the Digimon franchise. It’s a fun way to shine more light on this underrated but wonderful ship. It will take place from September 26 to October 02, so mark your calendars.

THE PROMPTS

All the prompts fit a general theme, namely “karaoke”, but feel free to interpret them however you like. ;)

Monday, September 26: SCORE

Tuesday, September 27: NOTE

Wednesday, September 28: REPEAT

Thursday, September 29: CONCERT

Friday, September 30: VOICE

Saturday, October 01: RHYTHM

Sunday, October 02: CODA (aka Free Choice)

THE GUIDELINES

There are guidelines to ensure this week runs smoothly, so please be sure to follow these:

Be sure to use #michi karaoke as one of the first five tags and/or tag with @taichixmimi! That way it’ll be easier to find your post and reblog it here for all to enjoy!

Everyone is free to chose any kind of art form: edits, gifs, fanfiction, fanart, fanvideos, cosplay, etc. Creativity is always encouraged!

You can add other ships and characters, such as their digimon partners. Just be sure the focus remains on Taichi and Mimi.

This does NOT mean you can bash any other ship or character. This event is meant to celebrate Michi, but not at the expense of others. Spread love, not hate.

You can submit more than one entry per prompt if you want to.

Early submissions won’t be accepted. So please wait until the new prompt has been posted on the taichixmimi blog.

Late submissions, on the other hand, are welcome.

Last but certainly not least, HAVE FUN!!!!!

For more guidelines concerning this event, please check out this page.

If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. I’ll do my best to help you out.

Love, Zoe

#digimon #digievents #michi #taichi x mimi #michi week #michi karaoke #mimi tachikawa #taichi yagami #txm announcement #mw karaoke announcement

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digitalgate02 · 3 months

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One thing i’ve been discussing after i had a friend watching 02TB in my country was that the movie does not feel afraid to show the imperfections of every character and how they being like that is what makes them and their relationship with their digimon stronger.

02TB is about communication, but also about imperfection. Rui had a bad life before Ukkomon stepped in, and then Rui’s life changed for the better, except it was not perfect at all. Rui claims his relationship with Ukkomon was perfect, but then later the group points out it wasn’t. Because neither Rui or Ukkomon knew each other like they believed they did.

But the whole discussion was that this friend who watched the movie criticized Hikari standing on Ukkomon’s side, making her get this heavy criticism from a few Japanese fans (yes, said friend speak Japanese and also showed me the tweets too), about how Hikari was invalidating how Rui felt and such.

My other friend, who had watched the movie before me and during her trip in Japan (who also speak Japanese), had a different view of that scene – That Hikari was actually calling Ukkomon pathetic for all those things he was trying to do, not pitying him as some sort of “victim”. And this is where we started discussing the movie’s themes.

If you know Yagami Hikari and her popularity status, you will notice people would rather pin her as “Waifu” or “perfect girl” (even in-universe, I suppose) – And not many people tend to know her real bad side or her inner problems (which you can read Shiha’s overview of the character in her meta blog), and no, it’s not the “brocon” thing (this never was part of Hikari’s entire character, it was only brought by two guests in Adv’99 and 02 respectively, NOT by the entire staff) – it’s the part of Hikari being manipulative, sly and even troll-ish kind of girl.

But in this movie we see she can also be insensitive sometimes, just like her brother is (look, i love Taichi, but let’s be real: most of his issues with Sora in Adv’99/OWG were because he was way more tactless than being Sora being too sensitive) – and i think it adds a new layer to the character, breaking the idea she’s “perfect”.

And according to the friend who i was talking with, Hikari’s line is what leads Daisuke to reverse Rui’s words and questions into making the new and mysterious boy realize his life and relationship with Ukkomon were not perfect as he imagined it were.

Speaking of Ukkomon, he’s also the embodiment of this theme: When Rui tells the group that Ukkomon can realize wishes, the flashbacks puts into question another view: If Ukkomon is that powerful, then why would he have to use his tentacles to control the corpses of Rui’s parents? Why didn’t he just cure Rui’s dad instead? And so do other things Rui claimed and were debunked by the flashbacks.

Ukkomon might be related to something bigger, yes, that i have no doubt of it (considering that him getting defeated resulted in the digivices not being needed anymore!) but i don’t think he’s some sort of god-tier digimon. He might be related to the same entity (entities?) connected to Homeostasis (which is not a god, it’s more likely a “Security system”) and the Holy Beasts, who were the ones we know to have been selecting children in both Adv’99 and 02.

I loved this movie for showing that it’s okay to be imperfect and that communication is essential in our lives. So this is why it ends with Rui and Ukkomon finally having a talk and discovering more about themselves, about things Rui likes and dislikes. And this is also why Rui gets the egg back and in the post-credits the egg shakes as if it was about to hatch: They were already to start from zero, again.

So, are Hikari's and everyone else’s portrayals supposed to be PERFECT in this movie? Nope, that’s the thing. The movie is, I repeat, about communication and imperfection.

Thanks for coming to my Digi-Talk ✌

#02tb spoilers #ni's digitheories #digimon adventure 02 the beginning

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detectiveichijouji · 6 months

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Case 28 - Fântome -Phantom-

[AO3 version]

“Sorry Ken, we found the fake Kaiser and… they escaped!!”

Daisuke phoned Ken late at night, and then they talked for a few hours. If Ken could see Daisuke’s face now he would’ve seen a super duper pout. He was sulking, yeah.

“It’s okay, we managed to get some information in the meantime.”

“Did you!?”

“Miyako-san left so Iori-kun and I kept browsing through the internet and researching Unryuuji Naito. As Hikari-san mentioned, he’s a student from Taichi-san class, and more… His family runs a manufacturing business.”

“Huh… What do they work with? I mean, what do they build?”

“They build softwares and hardwares, in other words, machines and their applications.”

“Wait… So they build computers, and sort of that technology?”

“Yeah, moreso… And this means Unryuuji Naito is probably building the fake shards with a 3D printer.”

“Hehe, we’re on the right lead to catch them, right Sherlock??”

“This is not only my work,” Ken babbled, “Miyako-san and Iori-kun helped too. I’m not… Good with computers. At least not the current ‘me’... The Kaiser… Who I was in the past had a more skill set with computers and programming.”

“No sweat, you got help. Isn't it better to do things in a group than alone?”

“Ah, I agree. Thank you for reminding me of that.”

Days had passed, and they didn’t hear anything about the suspicious faux Kaiser or Unryuuji Naito. At least Ken was thankful Daisuke’s birthday wasn’t ruined by those two (so far) and they all had spent the day doing stuff with the group. Even Noel managed to drag Soleil and Lune into it to at least be courteous and wish Daisuke a happy birthday.

Soleil kept telling himself ‘I WANT TO BE NICE I WANT TO BE NICE I WANT TO BE NICE’ in some murmurs, while Lune was feeling she was walking on eggshells around Hikari. Since this ended up quite awkward, Daisuke took a long breath and then told those two to not force themselves if they’re not comfortable around him and his friends.

Noel wasn’t aware of that and then apologized to both parties for that. He wanted both of his group of friends to get along though…

“You can’t force people to like each other” Takeru said, and despite it sounding cold…

“No, I understand.”

“I’m just telling you, it might sound harsh but it’s true.”

“Well” Noel shrugged, “Soleil-san and Lune-san have to cooperate with you now. At least don’t fight each other.”

“We can make a truce, at least” Ken suggested, “But we might not interfere in each other’s businesses.”

“Hey hey HEY, it’s my birthday!” Daisuke pouted, “Don’t start a whole fight here, at least!”

“Yeah, it’s Daisuke’s birthday!” V-mon also pouted, mimicking Daisuke’s gestures, “If you want to fight, open a gate and go fight in the Digital World, not here!”

“Besides, why are we at Joypolis?” Patamon asked.

“I uh… I love the arcade so I thought it would’ve been a good idea, haha…” Daisuke chuckled nervously.

“Oh, it’s because of that blue hedgeho--” V-mon was about to say something but Daisuke immediately covered his mouth.

“Togemogumon exists in this world?” Noel asked.

“Togemogumon?” The 02 kids blinked.

“Or is it a blue version of Herissmon?” he wondered.

“Herissmon?” and again they repeated like if those names were unknown to them all.

“Wow, they don’t know what you’re talking about~” Lunamon said, scoffing.

“Well, sorry that we don’t know every digimon in the Digital World!” Tailmon hissed.

“They’re hedgehog-like digimon” Coronamon replied, trying to avoid the imminent fight.

“Wow, hedgehog digimon…” Daisuke said in awe.

“D-DAISUKE, YOU’RE NOT REPLACING ME WITH A HEDGEHOG DIGIMON RIGHT?!” V-mon panicked, and somehow Daisuke’s interest in hedgehogs finally hit him badly.

“No, I’m not… I can’t replace you with some unknown digimon! You’re my bud!!”

“Daisukeeeeeee!!” V-mon was holding back his tears.

“Sigh…”

“Aaah~ I ate like a king!” Daisuke crashed in bed, with V-mon next to him “I think this was a good day. I’m officially 17, yeah!!”

“... But why was that kid trying to cause a new crisis…”

“Huh?” Daisuke looked at V-mon, who was now sitting on the bed, “You mean the fake Kaiser-wannabe?”

“Yeah, I… I don’t understand why a Chosen Child would cause chaos in order to fix it.”

“You mean… Them staging a new menace only to beat it and get all the glory?”

V-mon nodded in silence. Daisuke then sat next to him and started musing, he wanted to understand those people too, or rather, find a peaceful way to stop them before things got bad.

“That’s too troublesome” the boy sighed, “We need to find who that masked kiddo is and make them stop.”

“But… How can he do that?”

“Do what?”

“He really sounded like Ken…!”

“Maybe he was using some equipment to mask his voice, uh… I think I’ve seen those before in a movie. Oh you can do it with a few audio programs on the computer. Miyako definitely knows how.”

“Yeah… I think--”

Something sounding like glass shattering was heard from the balcony. Daisuke and V-mon got up and ran to its entrance and found a strange digimon that was a bullfighter look-like vampire… On the edge of the balcony.

“Who are you!?” V-mon said, with a serious glare.

The digimon didn’t answer, he just raised his claws. He was about to attack when V-mon jumped in midair and evolved into XV-mon. Matadrmon tried to hit Daisuke with his sharp claws, but the boy jumped from the balcony and was caught by XV-mon’s arms, carefully.

“Man, I thought my birthday would be less fired up but I guess not,” Daisuke complained with an annoyed tone of voice, “Who the heckie are you!?”

“...”

“If you’re not goin’ to talk, we will have to send you back to the Digital World!”

The opponent attacked again, this time throwing a ton of rapiers against XV-mon, who managed to dodge most of them, and some he just tried to avoid getting hit on Daisuke. One of them grazed the boy’s left cheek, causing a little cut.

“Daisuke!” XV-mon gasped.

“I’m okay, I’m okay!” he tried to keep XV-mon calm, then he looked at the foe digimon, “Why don’t you talk , you!!”

Matadrmon laughed, and then he snapped his claws, taking the appearance of a human being wearing a mask.

“You again!?”

“You will deliver a message to Ichijouji Ken for me, and if you refuse…”

“If what, you punk??” XV-mon growled.

“I don’t like this…” Daisuke babbled, he was not the kind to be the ‘pessimist’ of his group, but there’s times Daisuke was very able to feel when things wouldn’t end well.

Ken had finished his dinner and was just reading the recent stuff sent by Inspector Fujieda, about an illegal activity past midnight with a few suspects (“He” was one of those suspects alas) when his phone rang.

Wormmon got up from Ken’s lap and let the boy get up to reach his phone. Then, Ken answered the call:

“Hello?”

“Ken. Listen, I have not much time, but you have to go to the Digital World right now.”

“Daisuke?” Ken’s heart skipped a beat, what did he mean by ‘not having much time’???

Ken looked at the computer, and the digivice lying on the desk. He clutched the phone.

“Where are you?”

“That doesn’t matter now!! Please… Do it for me…!!”

“Hold on, why are you wavering? What’s happening??”

The call was abruptly interrupted. Did Daisuke hang up forcibly or someone else was with him?

“What happened, Ken-chan?” Wormmon asked, concerned, “You’re pale…”

“Something happened to Daisuke.”

“As I suspected!”

They heard Arsenemon’s voice, and then the phantom thief appeared in front of their eyes.

“Arsenemon??” Ken and Wormmon said, in unison.

“Sorry, I was eavesdropping on your call with monsieur Motomiya. I do not suggest going alone though.”

“... Do you have a plan, is what you mean?”

“Oui.”

Ken messaged Miyako, Iori, Takeru and Hikari and told them to meet him at a certain coordinates he received from Daisuke. He feared for the worst, but hoped for the best. A brief explanation as for why he called them at this hour and that Arsenemon had a plan.

They all went there immediately.

“Ok, what now Ken-san?” Hawkmon asked Ken.

“I don’t get it…” Armadimon tilted his head.

“Daisuke said to meet him here, but I don’t see him--”

“Ken! Everyone!”

They heard Daisuke’s voice and followed it… To find V-mon and the hooded human holding him as hostage. The voice came from a… hooded Daisuke!?

“Daisuke!? What are you--” Ken gasped, the others were filled with mixed feelings of worry and anger.

“Don’t care about me!” V-mon shouted, “Stop Gigadramon!!”

“Gigadramon??” Tailmon raised an eyebrow.

They didn’t take time for details, a Gigadramon appeared from the top of the trees. The hooded Daisuke took another fake fragment and when he was about to use it on V-mon…

“Un deux trois!”

V-mon was protected by an Ace of Hearts card, which also worked as some sort of gate and “Ken” took the shard from the enemy Daisuke’s hand.

“ Non non , you won’t use it on mon ami. Now show yourself!!” Ken (?) tried to reveal the hooded Daisuke’s true identity.

“I thought you would come alone.” The hooded Daisuke said, annoyed by those guests, “Where’s the real Ichijouji Ken?”

“Ah, I’m sorry… You were expecting the original to come?” Then Arsenemon revealed his disguise.

“W-wait… Ken is…” V-mon babbled, concerned “Arsenemon, where is…”

“Can’t ruin surprises, they make the spectacle lose its climax~” he winked.

“I don’t know what you mean, but we have 15 shards of those in possession.”

“T-this is NOT the right time to think about surprises!!”

“Everything will be fine, V-mon,” Hikari said with a gentle tone, “Trust us.”

“Trust y’all…”

“Gigadramon, destroy them!”

“Oh you won’t!!” Miyako gritted her teeth, “Hikari-chan!”

“Right!”

From the Jogress light Aquilamon and Tailmon combined into Silphymon and the digimon flew in Gigadramon’s direction. Silphymon gathered energy in the palm of their hand and shot it against the opponent, who forced himself to take the hit. Gigadramon shot his organic missiles at Silphymon, but oddly they hit each other instead.

“Hmph, pathetic.”

“Pathetic it’s you for shamelessly using another person’s face!” Miyako snapped.

“Stop Gigadramon…” Iori mused, “Don’t tell us that…”

The fake Daisuke smirked. Takeru clenched his fist.

“Hold one second” Arsenemon said, and used the card to teleport V-mon to the group. Then he asked something from the communicator he had on his ear, “V-mon’s safe, folks.”

“Um…” V-mon frowned, “Gigadramon is not Daisuke if you’re thinking about it…”

“Huh!?” Patamon blinked, “He’s not??”

“Then… who is Gigadramon, dagya?!” Armadimon babbled.

Silphymon continued fighting whoever this person-or-digimon-turned-into-the-enemy was. Gigadramon also kept having strange reactions and restricting himself from those attacks.

-- Mot Bomb!!

The tiny Espimon-shaped bombs hit Gigadramon’s next organic missiles, exploding before they hit someone else. It was miss Espimon, trying to locate the shard in the digimon’s body.

“There, Silphymon!!” She showed them the left claw of Gigadramon with a flashlight coming from her eyes, “HIT THERE!!”

“Oh you’re smart,” the fake Daisuke said, “Interesting.”

“DUAL SONIC!!” Silphymon glided in the targeted claw’s direction at super-speed and crashed a shock wave into it. The wave hit it, repelling the gem which was then destroyed by another Mot Bomb .

Gigadramon devolved and then a pair of human and digimon -- A boy and a Gigimon -- started to fall, but Silphymon caught the duo with their arms and then gently landed on the floor.

“!!” Hikari gasped, “Matsuno Takato-kun?!”

“Do you know this kid, Hikari-san?” Iori asked.

“He’s a classmate,” Takeru replied, “He’s friends with Daisuke-kun.”

“HEY, WHERE’S DAISUKE YOU FAKER?! Miyako gritted her teeth.

“... Miyako” V-mon frowned, “He is Daisuke.”

“WHAT?!”

“Oh, are you surprised?” the enemy scoffed, “This only makes things funnier for you all right?”

“Daisuke-kun…??” Hikari was kinda pale by the shock.

“No, you’re not him!” Arsenemon narrowed his eyes at that person who was claiming to be Daisuke. Not his friend. His friend wouldn’t NEVER!!

“But I am, Arsenemon” he smirked, “And now-- huh?”

Arsenemon however, smirked.

“Why are you smilin--”

Then suddenly Ken appeared behind the fake Daisuke, and Immobilized him. Not only that, he also was armed with something that looked like one of Stingmon’s spikes.

“Alright ‘Daisuke’,” Ken said, with his old Digimon Kaiser voice tone, “You might be thinking I didn’t see it coming, but you’re not a mile able to outsmart me at least. WHERE’S IS THE REAL DAISUKE YOU INSECT?!”

“Didn’t you hear V-mon, you idiot!? I’m him! I’m--”

“Then, better me put you out of misery like Daisuke would want me to do in case he just had gone insane.”

“Well then go ahead. I dare you to do that, Ichijouji Ken.”

“Ken, please no!” V-mon babbled in panic, then he looked at Takeru, “Please use HolyAngemon on him… N-now!”

“Huh??” Takeru found that odd, but he knew V-mon had a point, “R-right…!”

Patamon warp evolved into HolyAngemon, and then…

“Holy Disinfection!!”

HolyAngemon quickly used his holy powers to exorcize whatever was happening with Daisuke. It was when something strange left Daisuke’s mouth, a black mist which turned into a form of Matadrmon.

“?!?!?!”

“Argh…!! How did you--?!”

Daisuke was freed and coughed, “UGH, DUDE!! WHY WERE YOU?! HUH WHA-- IT’S HIM! THE DIGIMON WHO ATTACKED ME!!”

“So he had possessed Daisuke…” Armadimon commented.

“Are you okay now?” Ken threw the spike away and put his other hand on Daisuke’s shoulder.

“Yeah, I… I knew y’all would save us.”

“Oh this is getting more and more interesting!” Matadrmon felt delighted, “This round has been won by you, Ichijouji Ken. But the next one…”

“WE WON’T LET YOU ESCAPE!!” The Chosen Children, their digimon, Arsenemon and Espimon said in unison and tried immediately to attack Matadrmon.

But Matadrmon was shielded by the eyepatched Devidramon. And then they saw a human with a mask and hoodie on, at the top of a tree.

“Who??”

The mysterious human threw a smoke bomb (and at the same time a card) on the ground and then the human and the two opponent digimon vanished. Once the smoke effect had vanished, Ken noticed the card and took it.

It said…

Congratulations, you won this time, Ichijouji Ken. The next game might be more entertaining. If you manage to find out the other 15 pieces, I will call cease-and-desist and stop the show. Only if you Play the Game, by the way. ----- Yours sincerely, the Digimon Kaiser.

Ken had to show it to the others, but right now he was afraid of Daisuke and the other two victims’ health conditions. So they decided to take them to Joe as soon as possible.

#young prince detective ichijouji ken #02 team digimon case files

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piracytheorist · 2 years

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One day I will write a more detailed post about everything that I disliked about the path they chose in Last Evolution Kizuna, but I was thinking today of how they basically wrote themselves into a dead end but expect us to take a positive outcome out of it.

Like, the ending is very bitter with one pinch of sweet. It is meant to make us sad, and just a little hopeful that they still keep the 02 ending canon so we can assume that eventually all Chosen Children (or Adults) reconnect with their Digimon partners.

But I’m thinking, even if you want to ignore tri. (which to me it felt like they were deliberately ignoring everything about it with the exclusion of one (1) mention of Meiko and Meicoomon) where the whole plot happens because a former Chosen Child wanted to reconnect with her Digimon, the same thing happens in Kizuna. Sure the separation of Taichi and Yamato from Agumon and Gabumon was “fated” but Menoa’s actions were what kicked the plot forward.

And so, with what Kizuna sets up, more and more Chosen Children will be separated from their Digimon partners until something happens off-screen and they reach the 02 ending (which to me, doing that off-screen is a huge cop-out but that’s a point for another post plus we’ve still got the upcoming 02 movie to watch so). So I’m asking, how are we supposed to think that absolutely none of those people will go to such extremes like Menoa did? Yeah, maybe we don’t want to assume that of the beloved twelve children from Adventure and 02, but there’s way more Chosen people out there... so are we supposed to assume things go well afterwards?

If anything, in Kizuna, only Taichi and Yamato (because of course only those two) were directly impacted by Menoa’s actions; as a proof, when Mimi and Palmon wake up from their coma, they both consider everything a dream, so I can’t be convinced anyone other than Taichi and Yamato would fully understand the consequences of going too far to be reconnected with your Digimon partner (again, tri. notwithstanding). It’s also only the original eight that are even brought up with the idea of moving forward; none of the other Chosen that were taken by Eosmon are shown to struggle with the concept, they’re just brought in the Neverland and then wake up safe in their hospital beds. Did they even understand what went on, why Eosmon was created, why she fell and why they woke up again? Will they understand what it means when the countdown ring appears on their Digivices? Will they expect and (reluctantly) accept it when their time runs out like Taichi and Yamato did?

So, with the way the topic is written and explored in the film, it doesn’t become an object lesson to that many people, so it’s bound to happen again. There’s nothing in the film to disprove this, and even if we assume that Koushiro would issue a warning among the Chosen Children network about what’s fated to happen (which again, is work we’d do off-screen in order to make the film make sense), I cannot safely assume at least one of them wouldn’t go as far to try to stop it or undo it as Menoa did.

It’s not just a mostly bitter with a bit of sweet ending the film gives. It’s so sloppy that upon closer inspection it falls apart and only fates itself to be repeated.

#Digimon #the more I think about this film the more problems I find about it #LEMME AT IT LEMME AT IT #in general I try not to dwell on the negatives #and this is more of a criticism on the writing choices than negativity on itself #and probably direct disagreement with the path they chose #the fact that one of the original creators left from the production of the film also encourages me even more to disagree with their choices #I've got my own headcanons about why the separation happened thank you very much #but I wanted it out there even if I feel it won't be as widely accepted #because I see a lot of people like it #which is okay good for you #but I'm putting it out there in case someone else agrees #and comes right into my inbox to egg me on to RIP IT TO SHREDS #Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna

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meeedeee · 1 year

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[AMV] Lost Time Memory by Hikari

In another timeline, earlier on, Koushiro encounters an accident... Taichi tries Taichi's best to help - but can Taichi succeed? (What happens when the 02 Chosen have 'Fallen'; and the Chosen's memories have been wiped back to around the beginning of Tri?) {They're all still "friends" - but do they even know fully what's going on?} Can you figure out the 'mysteries' unfolding? What more is there to 'figure out'?

This is a re-post (for AO3) of an A.M.V. I made some years back. Taichi Yagami and Koushiro Izumi are heavily featured characters; In this specific A.M.V., Meiko Mochizuki also appears. This series of A.M.V.s is an AU spinning off from various canon points up until the Epilogue. Song featured: "Lost Time Memory", by Jin, from the Kagerou Project series. (This work is not a 1:1 direct parody of characters/storyline there, but very inspired!)

This is a "Music Route" version of my other KouTai/Taishiro story, REPEAT?_ and everything as presented in a series of A.M.V.s for this "Music"-based "route" will heavily connect back to that work. (Side ships may also feature. This AMV is Koushiro x Taichi {+x Meiko as side Polyship}.)

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aph-japan · 2 years

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{Digimon Adventure}/{02}/{tri.}/{Pre Epilogue-verses} {Index} IzzyIzumi / KoushirouIzumi’s Fanfics for Koushiro Izumi, Taichi Yagami, & Koushiro x Taichi {KouTai}/{Taishiro}/{Etc. (+Friend)Ship[s]}

I know there’s been a lot of Digimon Adventure-relevant fandom/fan-events going on lately. I usually can’t participate in events for varying reasons, but I’m glad to share my past works in the form of this index. ALL were created out of Positivity and respect for this series. Please feel free to reblog anything relevant if you have a fan-event going on and I've made a relevant work, as long as you follow my general Interaction rules! (Looking over my F.A.Q first would be beneficial to you too!!)

{This post is initially marked as 'no reblog', so I can go back and change later; but feel free to 'Like' if wanted!}

[I'm trying to keep this out of less commonly-used tags; but I do use {many of} these for organizing on my blog, and I hope they can reach more fans of these pairs this way!] As usual, many of my works can be found via my AO3! {Anything else will be linked here, then likely to AO3 in the future!}

Title: REPEAT?_ Ship{s}: KouTai {Koushiro x Taichi} (Main Focus) YamaSora {Yamato x Sora} is implied for a few very fleeting, brief moments {along with a single ambiguous timeline one-shot} Summary: Taichi wasn't sure what he was expecting. …He just knew it wasn't… this…

(Please see inside for all Notes!)

Title: The Past World Rating: PG Notes: Implications about self-loathing (both Taichi & Koushiro) & Koushiro's previous self-depreciation {Novels-implied} in general - Royalty!A.U.; however things may not be as they appear... + Dark!Chosen Children A.U. appears in some parts (mainly in flash-back form, until...). Characters: Taichi, Koushiro, Adventure Chosen team, 02 Chosen Ship{s}: (Same as "Infalliable" listed below can be read in) + KouTai {Koushiro x Taichi} focus. Ken x Miyako has a scene where they're both present, but not completely in a relationship yet; as friendly. Yamato x Sora is implied for a few very fleeting, brief moments Ken x Daisuke is implied for a total of one (flash-back) A.U. scene, but will come to have a heavy presence in future sequels to this A.U.

"-- About that, you'd be better off asking your new advisor," "H-huh?--" When suddenly -- -- as if out of nowhere -- -- from a short distance -- a shy gaze peers up at him

… pure black eyes.

Title: Possession Rating: PG-13 / R (Violence implied) Notes: Epilogue era / Taichi and Koushiro are adults, 30-35+ - can be conidered a spin-off timeline / part of REPEAT?_ - partly based on general head-canons, partly based on my old as heck Digi-O.C. fic and the head-canons I / Young me had for its own future / epilogue era - Leans more post-02, {no Tri} canon compliant overall (thus many things happen differently between these two things) - (still) partly based on new ideas gained from Tri - KouTai + Government Corruption A.U.??? + Ambassador!Taichi (Koushiro hasn't quite reached the "Digital World" Researcher position Yet) Summary:

"We’re… being targeted," "but not just by---"

"One, a certain one, among them" "had the power to open the gate" "–and immediately close it again" Title: Ten Rating: PG-13 Characters: Koushiro Izumi & Daisuke Motomiya {Friendship} Ship{s} KouTai {Koushiro x Taichi} heavily Implied Summary:

“…Can you turn around and— - it’s April 2004. (..Or is it April 2003? Spring 2003?) - at the end of Spring 2003, something else astonishing occurred: Daisuke’s sister Jun, the Inoue sisters, & Shuu Kido all became Chosen at once. - an incident, (occured, and then) —

“I’ll help, so we, you, can get out of here !!—”

“They {Won’t come}”

…TAICHI-SENPAI’s GOGGLES ( … Are probably absolutely unfitting for Koushiro Izumi, but…. ) Title: Candles Rating: r18 Implied ? (Pre?-Fade-to-Black) or Mature / technically Work-safe Notes: some Specific Headcanons are heavily implied technically part of REPEAT?_Verse, ( ficverse version here ); - it can be read as a standalone fic - it can be read as an AU and/or spinoff of the main REPEATVerse; - or as its own standalone AU/spinoff Verses: Post-Advs (can also be post-Tri/Kizuna); pre-Epilogue [+Kids]; Taichi has graduated a while ago by now. Taichi has been involved with his Ambassador career for a while, but it’s still getting off the ground too. (And it’s . Stressful) +Taichi and Koushiro are heavily implied to be living together already here. Summary: Taichi is having ... a hard time. Featured Head-canon: Jewish!Taichi (+Koushiro) Implied

Title: Dreams Rating: r18 Implied ? (Pre?-Fade-to-Black) {It's a bit Ambiguous. You Might Get An Idea} Summary:

Sometimes, Koushiro dreams. (Of Brown hair, Brown eyes.)

This can serve as a prequel spinoff to my other Koushiro-centric series, "REPEAT?"_-verse or be read as a standalone.

Title: (Dirty) Computer Summary:

"Do you like computers?" Tentomon had asked Koushiro, once.

“You just like working with machines more THAN PEOPLE, don’t you?!” … But why does it MATTER if Koushiro – DID —

A character study and analysis on Koushiro Izumi's Canon personality, (with a touch of heavily implied headcanons), with brief references to Koushiro's notable relationships, Family, and those Interests. "It's OK for you to be obsessed with computers!" - Mr. Masami Izumi, Adventure Episode #38 (There are some light references to the novel's given backstory details for Koushiro, including Koushiro's mindset there.)

Title: Koushiro Izumi Is Touched By Death Rating: PG Notes: Implications about Death & Grief (for passed loved ones), + the mourning/grieving process in general Characters: Koushiro Izumi & Daisuke Motomiya Ship{s}: (Implied) KouTai {Koushiro x Taichi} can be read into the background, but is not actively discussed / mentioned Summary:

In which Koushiro Izumi Is Traumatized, Has Always BEEN Traumatized, And Daisuke Motomiya {NOTICES}.

Takes place shortly before "the summer of" a somewhere between 2003~2005. (02 takes place in April~December 2002, Tri takes place in 2005 June~December.) {Tri knowledge is not required to read, but may be helpful to understand continuity.}

Title: Infalliable Rating: PG Notes: Implications about self-loathing & Koushiro's previous self-depreciation {Novels-implied} in general Characters: Koushiro Izumi & Daisuke Motomiya Ship{s}: (Implied) KouTai {Koushiro x Taichi} can be read into the background, but is not actively discussed / mentioned; Daisuke x (Girl)!O.C. ("Hikaru"); in background; (My O.C. does not appear much within the context of the fic, but the dialogue refers to an event she was involved in immediately previously, with a Koushiro-focus and Daisuke-relevant aftermath.) Daisuke x O.C. aren't "together" yet; it is developing relationship. Ken x Daisuke x O.C. may be Implied in spin-off fic{s}; Ken x Miyako may be implied in canon-compliant 'verses, with former Ken x Daisuke heavily implied / mutually requited-yet-unrequited (as purssuing a direct relationship) / hinted. Poly-ships may be included in any future spin-off, but none are referenced in this specific one (yet). Summary:

Daisuke stares moodily ahead. Koushiro does the same, except Daisuke genuinely doesn't know - cannot even tell - if Koushiro's doing it "moodily" or not, because Koushiro's blank staring is that unreadable. They sit, Daisuke next to Koushiro, for a few long, long moments. And then -- Koushiro... opens his mouth -- "I'm not infalliable." Daisuke's eyebrows furrow, even if he can't look at Koushiro in this exact moment --

"Unshakeable? Indestructible--" Daisuke's head hurts. "I admit there was a time when I thought, ..." "NO!! That's not true!!"

"When you asked me, 'What about YOU, Daisuke-kun' -- the one who gave me that push -- that was you."

A "missing scene" of Daisuke & Koushiro friendship from my other Adventures & 02 Chosen fic; "The Past World" You do not have to read that one to appreciate this "missing" moment, as its mainly friendship. There is a slight hint of Daisuke/Original ("Girl") Character OC, but its more lightly implied; (Epilogue semi-canon compliant) There are also background relationships like Taichi/Koushiro, the slightest hint of background Ken/Daisuke, others hinted.

Title: Words Rating: PG Notes: Implications about self-loathing & Koushiro's previous self-depreciation {Novels-implied} in general; with a focus on self-acceptance + Koushiro's heavy use of formal speech and communication in the J.P.N version is referenced frequently. Tri is referenced / implied-as-AUs or for semi-canon compliancy (light spoilers for Kokuhaku; but not majorly referenced; just a quote) {plus a gif of a small moment involving Taichi + Koushiro} [also one more small conversation moment between Taichi and Meiko] (a scene from the first episode of the 2020 Reboot is referenced) - it can be read as a standalone fic - it can be read as an AU and/or spinoff of the main REPEATVerse; - or as its own standalone AU/spinoff (i.e. this can be read on its own) Characters/Groups: Taichi & Koushiro; Koushiro Izumi & Tentomon; Koushiro Izumi & Mimi Tachikawa; Koushiro & Izumis Ship{s}: KouTai {Koushiro x Taichi} focus Summary:

– To be honest,

Taichi and Koushiro don’t need words.

( They have a lot more than Just )

( words )

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koushirouizumi · 9 months

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"...That's why I'm here," Iori reaffirms calmly, as Iori now stands up, BOOK in hands-- "...Because I should be able to support my upperclassman, in turn." Iori smiles, and closes THE BOOK -- -- it closes between Iori's hands.

Pre-Epilogue Iori in my fic, "The Past World" (originally written in 2k21, idea in mind since Young Me days, before XW finished airing)

#The Beginning Spoilers #TheBeginningSpoilers

(Visually Iori likely looked EXACTLY LIKE THIS before breaking out the smile.)

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taichi-x-koushiro · 1 year

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Meanwhile with DigiAdvs' Koushiro Izumi

Koushiro, FIRMLY to Taichi's child {in a hypothetical slightly earlier Epilogue timeline}: No matter what anyone else in this world may believe, you and Taichi-san are important to me too. Taichi's child: Taichi's child: ...Can I spend the night??? Koushiro: Yes. Taichi's child: Can Dad come too??? Koushiro: Koushiro: (It's not like we haven't been seeing each other. But Taichi-san will have some more time soon) Koushiro: It's fine, of course. (Smile) Taichi's child, nodding firmly: Ok, then... before Dad and the rest gets here... Taichi's child, pleading look: (Can I play on the game system with you because I'm very emotional right now and *need* to unwind before I *burst into tears* and you're the *best*???) KoushirO, Immediately Picking Up On: Absolutely Koushiro: (I'll have to pretend to lose again this time, maybe...)

#koutai #izumi koushirou #taichis child #taichis son #taichi's son #yagamis and izumis #taishiro au #pre 02 epilogue #oc: kai yagami #koushiro and kai #repeat koushiro #repeatverse #coftff koushiro #coftffverse #koutai theme: non normative family #koutai found family au #(I want to say Kai's around 5~6 here???)#(Older than 4 and def able to communicate effectively maybe not quite 7~10 yet)#(Taichis child in Epilogue to me always looked around 6~7 but style wise seemed younger than Takeru who was 7 so maybe 6)#(Taichis child was pretty small and shorter than I expected a hypothetical Taichis child to be by age 7 too)#(I also HC that Kai is somewhat more emotional than even Taichi in the sense that Kai reacts more visibly)#(mainly due to having lost bio mom pre my old A.U. start)#(but it began before that too and it's also something Kai picks up on early in life for reasons)#(*also* not just those reasons but also because Kai doesn't really fully know who bio parent *is*)#(Which helps in how Kai relates well to Koushiro once knowing Izumi fams history)#(Kai obvs gets ~canon~ looks from Taichi but I also H.C. Kai's hair is a little longer and naturally curlier especially over time ? ?? Yeah #(Koushiro usually does engage in gamestuff w Kai seriously but here Koushiro's going easy a Bit)#(KAI Pleading look ' Don't go TOO EASY on me ok Koushiro?!??! I don't want to defeat you THAT easily--!!1! ')#(Koushiro Laughing ' If you say so ')#(Anyway Kai in this form has existed since I first saw the Epilogue & My H.C.s for this 'verse Will Never Die)

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shihalyfie · 2 years

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Daisuke’s characterization in Re:Digitize Decode is out of character, too

(Screenshots taken from this video.)

Digimon anime, including its relevant characters' characterizations, is generally handled by Toei Animation, which means that things that come from the Bandai side of the franchise don't tend to be the paragon of character accuracy. Re:Digitize, which features a number of returning anime characters, is a pretty obvious example of this, and it’s understandable -- it’s not like the staff for this game should be expected to have seen hundreds of episodes to write only a handful of lines -- but at the same time, the Adventure and 02 characters in particular had a lot of nuance, and it’s not very fun to see the characters somewhat reduced to the base details of their profiles without much in the way of that nuance.

Daisuke isn’t the only victim of this in Re:Digitize, but he definitely gets it pretty bad, and it’s not like this is the first time this has happened to him, because V-Tamer and the American English dub went similarly off the rails with him -- which goes to show you that, in the end, his character is far more nuanced than his base profile would have you think, and rather unfortunately very easy to slip up with if you’re not paying attention. Unpacking the reason why can be a complicated issue, but I would say it’s mainly in that Daisuke was consistently depicted in the anime as never crossing certain boundaries, even when the writers changed per episode and throughout all fifty of them that 02 spanned, plus its side material -- which is why going off the rails with Daisuke’s character like this won’t simply be just “exaggerating traits”, but will outright feel out of character because of how consistently those boundaries were drawn within the anime series itself.

On the surface, Daisuke’s characterization in Decode seems okay if you’re vaguely familiar with his base profile and role in 02, but has a lot of aspects that come off as very wrong to anyone who actually knows his character well. In Re:Digitize, Daisuke is introduced as Taichi’s junior, who immediately declares that he’s going to win against the protagonist so that Taichi and Hikari will lavish him with praise (in particular, he claims Hikari will gush over him for being a “strong man”). As the protagonist continues to win against him, Daisuke starts getting progressively obsessed with winning repeated battles, but is forced to admit defeat each time (as V-mon gets progressively more exasperated). During a meetup with other characters, Daisuke continues to antagonize everyone and treat them like obstacles to crush until Adventure-era Hikari has to step in to get him to shut up.

The problem is that while the concepts of Daisuke being “Taichi’s junior” and “having a crush on Hikari” and “wanting approval” and “being somewhat on the rough and aggressive side” track, the execution is off.

It’s true that Daisuke wants approval from others, but other than blanket statements of things like “wanting to be popular” in a broad sense, he’s never actually said he wants that approval in the series itself -- he’s not that needy! The reason it’s obvious to the audience that he wants approval is simply because his emotions are way too transparent; he gets really, really excited at the idea of being seen as cool or impressive, to the point you might even get secondhand embarrassment about it, but he has just enough sense to never actually vocalize it. (In fact, it seems that it’s more of an instinctive reaction of wanting approval from others and getting really excited when people praise him, rather than him consciously wanting it.) Among Daisuke’s large range of emotions, “sheepish”, “flustered”, and ″embarrassed” are among them, and they show up a lot!

The one time in 02 that’s most comparable to this situation in terms of “wanting to do something really cool specifically to get Hikari’s attention” is from 02 episode 22, when Daisuke fantasizes that something really cool would be liable to impress her. However, context is important here: Daisuke never uses romantic-subtext language within the episode (if anything, V-mon’s the one who’s more overt about it with Tailmon), and he only gets as far as wanting to clearly have his dignity next to Hikari after having been utterly humiliated in front of her earlier. (Notably, he only says that Takeru and Hikari “get along well” -- in other words, he’s concerned about being third wheeled, which is reinforced later in 02 episode 30.)

Sure, it’s obvious that Daisuke has a crush on her and all that, but that’s something you have to pick out from common sense with how Daisuke’s behavior gets so ridiculous around her. In fact, half the problem is that Daisuke fails to be overt about his interest in Hikari; he keeps dancing around in wishy-washy ways trying to impress people with weird things when in fact everyone likes him more as his more confident self, and, ironically, said moments of confidence are when he does actually do his most impressive work. (This is reinforced in Armor Evolution to the Unknown, when it’s explicitly said that everyone’s weirded out by his attempts to do “impressive” things because it just doesn’t suit him, and later the Kizuna drama CD, where Hikari gives him a compliment exactly when Daisuke himself displays proper determination towards his own dreams -- to which Daisuke shuts down because he never actually expected that to happen.)

In regards to Daisuke’s relationship with Taichi, again, it was something that the audience had to glean from context, and in fact Daisuke never actually made any real significant shows of wanting Taichi’s approval as much as he was simply very deferential and obedient whenever Taichi was giving the group an order. If anything, Daisuke just really liked and admired Taichi a lot, gushing about how cool Taichi was or getting very defensive on Taichi’s behalf. It didn’t seem like Daisuke had any illusions that Taichi was going to give him approval or praise anytime soon, and it didn’t even seem like Daisuke was necessarily actively looking for it as much as he just thought Taichi was cool and deserved praise (but of course if he did get praise from Taichi, he’d take it like an excited puppy).

Which leads into my next point: Daisuke’s desire for approval isn’t just about the Yagami siblings, but about everyone. Hikari, as the obvious recipient of his crush, is where this is most exaggerated, but, fundamentally, Daisuke likes people and wants to be liked by others! And yes, that includes an admirable genius kid he didn’t even know that well; even his name being remembered got him flustered and excited. There is very good reason that a certain famous fanart set with Daisuke made the statement “Daisuke seems like the type who’d be able to get along with any kind of protagonist” (a statement directly in opposite to what just happened here in Decode, where he antagonizes everyone) because Daisuke is probably one of the most openly friendly protagonists in this franchise. (He probably would have gotten the title of the most openly friendly Digimon series protagonist if not for types like Haru and Hiro appearing in much later entries.)

So even if the Decode protagonist (Taiga) were a stranger to him, Daisuke would probably take an interest in befriending him, too, rather than becoming obsessed with him as an object to defeat for his own pride -- especially if said person started exhibiting skills Daisuke would find impressive, because Daisuke has never held back when he finds another person to be deserving of praise.

Because we saw exactly that in 02 episode 8 -- and an episode right after one where he’d been pretty shallow about the Hikari issue! When Daisuke is in his element and having fun, he’s capable of putting the Hikari issue out of mind, and even when Hikari herself asks about Daisuke’s ability to win the game, Daisuke immediately says that it doesn’t matter and simply gushes about the idea of getting to play someone as cool as Ken. That is, uh, in stark opposition to whatever just happened in Decode (and, again, this is a very early episode of 02, so it’s not like it took a whole series worth of character development to get him to that point).

Really, the big mistake here is writing Daisuke like he’s arrogant -- for instance, the game has Daisuke try to refer to himself as “Daisuke-sama” (”Lord Daisuke” in the Operation Decode translation). Thing is, in the actual anime itself, it turns out that the opposite is implied -- Daisuke is desperate for approval because he’s devoid of much in the way of self-esteem, and other than a few adrenaline “I’ll get it done!” “I’ll show them what I’m made of!”-type statements, his actions are constantly dripping with insecurity that he’s not doing something cool enough or that he needs to try harder (seemingly unaware of the fact that his friends appreciate him more than well enough). I find that the best metaphor is encapsulated in the fact that at one point he tried chugging down milk because he was concerned about being shorter than Takeru and Ken...despite the fact he’s perfectly average height for a boy his age and simply has friends who happen to be unusually tall. Daisuke doesn’t do any of this because he’s arrogant, but because he’s so busy uplifting his friends he has no concept of where he is in comparison.

So what’s the take-home here?

Ironically for a character often considered to be “simple” and “easy to understand” because of his own mindset being so straightforward, in terms of behavior and why Daisuke acts the way he does, there’s a surprising amount of complexity here that is unfortunately very easy to miss if you’re just looking at the surface characteristics of his profile. If you look at his characteristics of him being somewhat rough around the edges, having a crush on Hikari, and being Taichi’s junior (which generally tend to be the first cited things about his character), and not the other nuances of how his rough exterior covers one of the friendliest people in the franchise (which is how he ends up being so open to Ken), or how he’s completely lacking in arrogance contrary to how his archetype would normally be, it’s easy to make too many assumptions and completely taper him off into a character who can be arrogant or rude, or, worse, creepy/invasive/entitled about his passes towards Hikari, when in fact 02 itself was very careful to straddle the line of tastefulness with him.

It’s not like Decode was being careless of a work, either -- after all, as I said earlier, it’s a bit much to expect that whoever was writing this would be intimately familiar with literal hundreds of episodes for such a small amount of text (and, unfortunately, even despite being so loose with characterization, it still somehow manages to be more accurate to the Adventure characters than certain other things that absolutely should have been expected to do better). With the high rate of how easy it seems to be to accidentally take Daisuke’s characterization out of bounds -- seemingly minor changes that are actually very jarring to those who are more familiar with how strict those boundaries can be -- you can see why this keeps happening even in Japanese media and in terms of why he’s the most drastically changed one in the American English dub.

So even though they may initially seem like simply just exaggerating certain character traits, the thing is that Daisuke’s boundaries are so well- and consistently-defined that you can very cleanly divide portrayals that are in-character for Daisuke (the PSP adaptation of Adventure, where he’s portrayed mainly as an excited puppy who wants the opportunity to go on an “adventure” with Taichi really badly, or Xros Wars, where he was portrayed as a good kid who still very obviously took his inheritance of Taichi’s goggles to heart, or Kizuna, where the balance between his overly frank emotions and his natural pure-heartedness was properly struck) and ones that are not (Decode and V-Tamer, and a reason why most people working strictly with the Japanese version of Daisuke don’t like ascribing American English dub Davis characterization to him). Thankfully, Daisuke’s cameo appearance in Decode isn’t of huge canonical consequence, so perhaps it’s best to just be thankful that it wasn’t, and try not to associate this too much with how he was actually portrayed in the anime itself.

#digimon #digimon adventure 02 #digimon adventure re:digitize #shihameta #motomiya daisuke #daisuke motomiya

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seventeenlovesthree · 1 year

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Can I ask you another question? This happens to be just an overall view I see from the Digimon community, but why are the personalities of the Digidestined seem almost offensive or wrong to so many people when it comes to Digimon Tri?

I know it may seem inconsistent with the Digidestined from Adventure all the way to Kizuna with Tri thrown in there, but Tri focused more on the negative aspects of a Digidestined’s personality.

Back in there teenage years it to me makes more sense they are showing inconsistencies in character as they are all trying to find out who they are. They are inbetween being children and adults and they are allowed to make mistakes or show that side of themselves at a more extreme level.

Sure it’s kept in check with the other series but raging hormone filled teenagers have to make those mistakes (or learn from others so they don’t repeat them) in order to build character and grow is refreshing and helps. E have more empathy for them.

Aside from their personalities this is what made Digimon so enticing. So that being said, in light of this do you still think that Digimon Tri did each Digidestined a disservice by portraying them as really people that they are nowhere near as?

Tri does get a lot of flack and rightfully so, but this part shouldn’t be one of those reasons.

Sorry for the long winded question. It was only fair I delivered it in context for your answer though.

My ask box is always open and I'm always interested in discussions like this, it doesn't matter if it's a bit more lengthy, because that helps me to understand where you come from yourself a bit better.

Admittedly, I do have my own personal "vendetta" with the way Tri is constructed in several ways - I have my issues with the pacing, the number of plot points, parts of the fanservice, the way the 02 cast was handled... However, I tried to bring up some positivity the other day by listing the majority of my favourite moments (and as I browse through my screenshot folder, there may actually be more I didn't immediately remember).

There are things that grind my gears - but I agree that not everything deserves flack.

My main problem with the characterization and arcs of the characters was mostly that it did feel like "recycled" conflict. Which, as you said yourself, is not NECESSARILY a bad thing, as we're all human, we all have our moments of regression and self-doubt. It IS relatable. There's a reason why this Jyoumi moment is one of my favourites after all:

On the other hand, I simply couldn't shake the feeling that Tri would have worked better if it had taken place between 01 and 02 - or if 02 hadn't existed in this universe in the first place. Because a lot of the conflict and development would have made a lot more sense if it had happened between 01 and 02, simply due to the fact that the majority of the characters already seemed WAY more mature in 02 despite their ages. I understand that writing characters consistently after 02 must have been incredibly difficult because of that - but witnessing Jyou as serene and confident and Yamato as open and dorky as they were in 02, just to see Yamato turn a lot more cold again and Jyou losing a lot of his self-efficacy all over again was just a bit disappointing. And in terms of Koushirou, I just didn't like how MUCH emphasis they put on his "hormones", it took them almost three movies for him to feel like an important character again and he deserves so much more than that. Yes, he had his good moments before that, of course! But he lost a lot of his dignity on his way there (at least in my opinion). It's just not nice to ignore the development they already went through.

I tried to summarize that once in a post before, I hope this will make a little bit more sense!

Upon rewatching a lot of scenes again, I may argue that Taichi (and in parts Sora) was the one I could make most sense of in his/their Tri portrayals after analyzing it for a while - even if their conflicts repeated themselves. I have written several analysis posts on Taichi regressing due to him getting older and struggling to find his path, prioritizing and making difficult decisions to maintain balance and unity, mourning the loss of his "younger self" being more daring (see for example here and here). Sora deals with similar issues after all, as she also struggles with her sense of self, obligation and femininity, unsure whether she can and should make decisions for herself, as a Chosen Child and/or the daughter of an iemoto and that is why she HAS to make uncomfortable (and sometimes even wrong) decisions (see here, here, here and here).

I love Digimon for how deeply I can analyze these characters and, as mentioned, the regressing is human and realistic after all - but at some point, I would just like to see them succeed and overcome their conflicts to at least some degree. Digimon never shied away from NOT writing happy ends for their characters - but with all the suffering they put Taichi through (just for example), it would be almost cruel not to see him get his personal closure at some point.

#meta #my two cents #digimon adventure tri #personal #long post

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