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kaypeace21 · 3 years

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Mike comes out to El , Mileven breaks up for good, and the future of byler (s4 theory)

*this is based off the stranger things movie inspirations they listed on twitter , in the show, or in interviews/other outside materials. All movies mentioned have been said to be inspo for the show.

So I’ll be mentioning mostly the movies- sw*ngers, what women want, wet hot american summer and splash (and others). Along with Tootsie -which was shown in s4 bts.

Before I give a rough outline of what may happen. I have to specify I don’t think El will be “heartbroken” over mileven cause I don’t think she loves Mike romantically . I’ve already discussed why i think she doesn’t love him romantically at nauseam - but regardless mileven brings out the worst in El and Mike. And literally inhibits her character growth. So as an El fan- I’m super excited for mileven to be put to rest. SORRY. I’ll trade El & Kali teaming up to get closure from their ab*ser ...over mileven any day of the week XD.

I think Mileven broke up in s3 (and remained broken up) . But we’ll have more closure and a more official breakup in s4 when Mike visits the byers. (And Mike admits he’s gay to his ex )- before byler officially begins. Essentially, I think- Mileven broke up, but El still calls constantly .And Mike starts ignoring her calls so El demands an explanation and he admits to her he’s gay and doesn’t want to get back together.

So first lets talk about Phone calls

I think based off the movies and s3 we’ll see El call quite a bit in s4 (almost obsessively) . And Mike has had enough. In s3, he said he’ll call so often -she’ll have to turn her walkie off . But I believe it’ll be the opposite-with El calling so much he’ll turn it off.

We see foreshadowing for this in s3 when Mike hangs up the phone after saying “El ? no, sorry, not interested.” Or when he hangs up on her multiple other times that season ( he even technically hung up the walkie on her in s2 , as well ). But, in defense of El, given her lack of socialization (and seeing mike call her constantly between s1-2 I wouldn’t be surprised if she thought this was the norm).

-In splash there’s a scene similar to s3 - a blond relative picks up another phone to eavesdrop on him talking to his gf. He yells at the blonde relative and when the gf asks if he loves her -he tries to dodge the question. But they break up and he admits to his relative he never loved her. Maybe confessing to Karen?

* This reminds me of that supposed rumor with El saying “I love you” and Mike not into El just saying “I know” in return.Or Mike in s3 saying quickly “i miss you-bye.” And immediately hanging up on her.

-some other aspects of the s3 breakup may be taken from “pineapple express .Which had comedic breakups via phone . When broken-up he says “I love you “ and she says it back to him (like mileven). He IMMEDIATELY says he takes it back and “I made a mistake” (when he sees she took him seriously). And then he specifies that’s it’s because she’s must be too “ naive and immature” to willing to take him back after how horrible of a bf he was to her in the past. Which yeah -fits mileven: they said the ‘L word’ when broken up, Mike did immediately try to take it back , and he may have realized at the s3 finalie how naive el was -to still want him back despite him not being a good bf to her. In ‘p.i’ the girl’s mom even says maybe it’s best she find someone new who actually appreciated her or ‘better yet just be single’ and hang out with her gal pals (lol if joyce gave this advice to El-that’d be great)! El doesn’t need romance to be her own-happy person! Also in ‘p.i’ Dale + his male bff are always assumed to be gay for eachother as a running gag .So ... I’ll technically throw that as another byler hint- lol.

-In sw*ngers Michael (yes that’s his name) who is made fun of for being perceived as gay gets a call from his ex gf of 6 months). And he hangs up on her to talk to his other love interest who asks if he wants to see her. Michael (specifically hangs up on his ex as she says “I lo-” to talk to this new love interest. He later brags to his friend (at a dinner) about not calling her back (despite her wanting to get back together) and he says proudly she was “always his ex”- when his friend incorrectly calls her his “gf” .

-While in ‘what women want’- an ex gf goes to him cause he didn’t answer her calls. In ‘tootsie’ the gf does the same and is pissed that her bf Michael (yes, yet another michael) didn’t answer her calls for a week. And he LIES saying his answering machine was broken. Would not be surprised if mike made up such an excuse.

Similar to ‘tootise’ & in ‘what women want’-both gals who’s phone calls were ignored ask if their bf (in mileven’s case -ex bf ) is gay. And in ‘swingers’ someone makes fun of mike for being gay. too Lol-i’m sorry 2 movies where a guy named Mike is called out for being gay /and 2 movies where a gf who’s phone calls are ignored asks is they’re bf is gay is suspish XD

In ‘tootsie’. We also have movie-mike give her a present before she asks if he’s gay /they breakup -it echos what previously happened in s3.

- Michael (from the film) despite not want to be with her anymore (and loving someone else) tries giving her a gift to patch things up - despite his lying/ignoring her. The gift /empty gesture annoys her. Which is similar to st- mike not apologizing for lying- but trying to give El a gift to make up with her (but he doesn’t even do as much as film-Mike).

Right after this is when she asks if he’s gay (aka so for mileven we have the gift scene for s3 & El asking if he’s gay in s4-which were both borrowed from ‘tootsie’).

In ‘tootsie’, she finds romantic letters Michael has from another guy and this causes her to ask him if he’s gay .(20+ movies have romantic letters). In ‘littlewomen’ the artist gal and her future husband (who used to have a crush on the painter’s sis) exchange letters.And in ‘wet hot american summer’- a guy ditched his friends to write a letter (and his friends make a gay joke about him because of his letter writing-not knowing he’s actually gay.

In ‘what women want’ when confronted- he admits he’s gay to his ex gf. In ‘tootsie’ she asks if he’s gay and he avoids the question but after she demands that he be “truthful for once in your life”. And, we all know how Mike constantly “lied” to EL .michael finally says he’ll stop lying to her and admits he’s in love with someone else.

And she says in turn she’s not angry he doesn’t love her but that he lied (and similar to s2 where Mike calls Hopper a “liar”. The ex gf calls movie-mike a “liar” over and over). In fact they use the identical phrase of “you liar. you liar.”

Not to mention- she does sound like El. She says she’s more upset about the lying than the fact movie-mike doesn’t love her.

But I do think they eventually get closure and El realizes she doesn’t love Mike (romantically either) before her real character/story arc begins.

movies: twister & you got mail

I’m so ready for the El & Kali teamup in s4. It’s like s2 (we get El & Kali pursuing Brenner + byler moments).

But what happens before Mike says this?I assume before this -mike & Will may confide in others about their feelings. And Mike/Will may be bullied for being perceived as gay .

-In “welcome to the dollhouse” a boy is bullied for being seen as gay in school & at an arcade- and a character who is made fun for being a lesbian defends him at school/the arcade (so maybe robin?)Since Robin works next to the arcade/is gay. Similarly, Fin’s character (at an arcade) is bullied and called a “fairy” and f*g” in ‘It 2′. And movie-Mike is made fun of for being perceived as gay in ‘sw*ngers’. Along with the guy (who was gay) being called homophobic names for writing letters (in wet hot american summer).We also know hawkins will most likely have a ‘satanic panic’ over d&d, rock music, and other things- which was historically rooted in christian fundamentalism.In ‘Kingsmen’ the churchgoers pretty much go on a rant being hom*phobic, r*cist, anti-science, anti-athe*st, anti-other religions, and anti-democrat and equate all of these groups of people to the endtimes/the anti christ. So one guy just snaps and says he’s gay, loves science , etc and says after “so... hail satan .And have a lovely day.”And storms out. lol not sure about all that -but it’d be hilarious XD. Trigger warning for hom*phobic sl*rs.

-Proof For Will was : In ‘heathers’ the jocks make fun of the new guy in the cafeteria- by asking him if he misses his boyfriend and call him the f-sl*r .in ‘superbad’ the guy who draws is called hom*phobic sl*rs and in ‘wedding crashers’ someone calls the male-painter character a “homo”. In “hackers” the (computer-nerd) who just moved to town is asked by his single mom if he “likes girls”.etc

Also, in “The guest” a computer-nerd in highschool is bullied for being perceived as gay (and he’s given really bad advice about how to deal with it by a lonnie-esque character who is visiting his house/family for a while). The advice is also similar to the advice given in the st comic (from Troy’s dad).

Honestly just the fire ref makes me nervous. The computer-boy eventually snaps (after never standing up for himself) and beats up his homophobic bullies.

*whenever Lonnie comes back - I assume we’ll see he’s a bad influence on Will pretty quickly

In ‘the guest’ they also made a joke that the clearly older guest must be the gay highschoolers’ boyfriend (which is not the case).

While In ‘stoker’ ,the highschool painter eventually loses it after dealing with constant harrassment- and stabs the bully’s hand (to block a punch coming their way) after the bully made an inc*st joke about the painter & the family guest. So a joke like that could certainly cause Will to finally snap (as opposed to the other gay jokes they used earlier). In ‘dukes of hazzard’ a guy also snapped and got into a fight over a inc*st joke (and in ‘girl interrupted” they make a similar messed up inc*st joke).

Given my theory on Will’s trauma with his dad (which he doesn’t remember)-I would not be surprised even on a subconscious level such a comment finally gets him to snap -maybe accidentally unleash his powers for the first time?Lonnie could say something about how Will should light his bullies on fire, they make a triggering joke about Lonnie &himself... and Will the wise does have fire powers after all. In the film ‘firestarter’ the kid who couldn’t control their fire abilities also lights a bully on fire accidentally so... maybe? In ‘skyhigh’ Will’s superpowers aren’t revealed until he accidentally unleashes them on a bully in the lunchroom. And 1 character in that scene says “don’t talk about my dad” before using his fire powers. Also... it’s not on the inspo list technically but the Duffers are known avengers/xmen fans.So Will could be based on scarlet witch’s son William (code name Wiccan) - he’s gay ,has lightning&fire powers and can alter reality. He’s been possessed In the past by the ‘demiurge’ - even spit up a slug too. He opens a portal to his world allowing the inter dimensional monster “mama” out (cough demogorgans are called “deep father”.) And he’s constantly bullied for being gay- and the 1 time he finally decides to stand up to his h*mophobic bullies- is the day his powers activate for the first time and almost k*ll the bully. Not super confident in this theory but thought I’d mention it just in case. Ok- this post is supposed to not be too plot heavy. So back to byler-

*Before Mike visits they may both confide in people about their feelings for the other . in skyhigh (at a dinner similar to the convo in sw*ngers where Mike talks about his ex gf) the bff of Will (yes his name) goes on and on about Will and how she’s known him since the first grade. And someone asks “so you’ve been in love with Will since the 1st grade?” Which she tries denying but quickly admits is true. And her friend says she should confess to Will.

In fisher king - a women who works at a videostore tries setting up 2 people- a gal-writer and a guy with an alternate personality/ who hallucinates a fearsome mythical creature (obviously Will). When people doubt the idea the girl can love this mentally ill guy she says “stranger things have been known to happen.” And in “altered states” the guy who would hallucinate flashing to another hell dimension (like Will)- has a wife. And people say “she’s crazy about him and he’s crazy.” When they weren’t together she says to her friend she had to pretend anyone she dated was him and she says “it’s crazy” in response the friend says “i think that’s how it’s supposed to be.” Plus in fisherking one character wrote a book dedicated to his wife (which had the same title as the movie they’re in) . And someone says about this author “ he was crazy about her” as he holds the novel in his hands.

* The ‘pretending the person you’re dating is someone you’re actually in love with’ was also mentioned in ‘children of paradise’ (reffed by Robin in s3).

*I’ve also talked about Mike projecting his feelings for Will to El-here.

Will confiding in someone is harder to say. in ‘reality bites’ when asking about why she doesn’t want to be involved in romance a friend asks “because of Michael?” Which she first denies but later admits is part of the reason.

And in ‘hellboy’, (while taking pics) John Myers tells the fire wielding character (with mental health issues) that her bff is in love with her and asks how she feels . The 2 bffs are endgame but at first she tells John that she’s unsure because she’s known him practically her whole life (but she thinks of him everyday).

Lol not sure if Jonathan would ever be so straight forward but it’d be nice callback to s1/2 convos they had (Jon saying in s1 to not like things cause you’re supposed to / saying being a “freak” like queer david bowie is cool) .In “twister” & “it’s a wonderful life” a family member also tells a character that their childhood friend that they’re in love with (isn’t into the person they’re currently with). In ‘ wonderful life’ she says they’re “not crazy” about the other person-but them. And they say they know this cause they “have eyes.” And In “twister” the family member says them visiting them is proof they love them.

*plus Sam who is supposedly crazy about her (also isn’t crazy about marry). Aka El isn’t crazy about Mike- but Will assumes she (along with mike). Cough El saying “what makes you crazy?” in s3.

-While in “hackers’ the kid (with a single mom) who is into computers, and upset they were forced to moved to a new city -is asked by the mom “Do you like girls?” . And he angrily denies and says he’s ‘not gay’ (which could followthrough with what happened in s3- Will not opening up to her about romance, like him telling Joyce he’d never fall in love. so he may lie to her if asked that question? Unlike Jon?

So it’s possible Will confides in Jonathan (and or Joyce) & maybe Mike to his mom/nancy?/a friend (maybe Robin or Max) (hard to say). My top guesses are Will &Jon. And Mike with Robin (and maybe his mom or sister a bit after Robin?)

Mike visiting the Byers

In ‘Tootsie’, michael (disguised as a woman named dorothy...long story XD) meets up with the person he really loves and gives them a present. The 2 low-key have like a psuedo-gay courting for most of the movie (before they get together). In ‘paddington 2′, the main character even gets multiple jobs to save up for a birthday present for a loved one (another contrast to mileven- who Mike,despite being rich couldn’t even spend $3.50 on. They did that alot -show contrasts with both ships .So s4 would be no different.And It’s Will’s b-day in s4 after all so Mike getting Will a present makes the most sense.

*last pics from ‘scarface’- I have no idea what he’d get Will for his b-day but if it’s engraved with “crazy together” I will lose my mind. Also the parent glaring during this scene-makes me suspect Lonnie . I do suspect Lonnie will sabotage byler-but it may end up being a s5 plotpoint instead of s4? (I guess in s4 it could be El-since el has been known to get very jealous in the past (like with max).

- In ‘waynes’ world’ the ex gf refused to accept the breakup initially (despite it being months ago). And she didn’t understand how breakups worked . Which given El’s lack of socialization - I get her confusion on the concept. Like how in s3 Max had to correct El that Mike was her “ex boyfriend”. In the film, she even tried giving him a present for their ‘anniversary’ (hopefully El doesn’t try to do something like that out of jealousy of the prior gift giving -cause Wayne just says the gift shows how little she knows him).

*You have to admit this scenario of Mike having to explain breakups isn’t that far-fetched.

(even when broken up with wayne- she wore a necklace with his name on it. ) Which reminds me of How El had a bunch of Mike related stuff in her room-including things that said “mike” on them.

in waynes’ world: The ex gf would follow her ex and still refer to him as her bf and be a 3rd wheel and interrupt every attempt for wayne to romantically confess to his new love interest (like in ‘dumb and dumber’/’high fidelity ‘).A similar scenario also happens in ‘tootsie’- Michael (as dorothy) almost confesses (on a swing set) but is interrupted by another person interested in him (Mike). Personally, I assume El would just do this unintentionally- assuming Mike wants to be with her and being a bit pushy but probably being oblivious of byler.

Not to mention the Duffers are petty AF and probably got annoyed with all the jokes that Will was a 3rd wheel to mileven- when literally Will wasn’t even around the 2 interacting alone . A 3rd wheel- has a group of 3 consisting of a couple and a third superfluous person. Which never really happened? Plus,we saw the ‘burns’ they did of mileven over the past 3 seasons- it’ll probably get worse.

And again we already know El had no qualms spying on her ex (mileven even dances to ‘every breath you take’ a song about a stalking ex gf).And El also watched the ‘all my children’ ep with Erica & mike roy. Which in the show after their breakup - had 1 of them refuse to accept the other didn’t love them and want to get back together- and stalk them/ sabotage their exe’s romantic pursuits. Only to eventually accept reality and move on. Although, I think this is mostly un-intentional on El’s part.

In ‘clueless’ she flirted with a gay guy who she thought was straight/in love with her and kept trying to make a move-much to his discomfort . And in ‘birdcage’ the ex gf would hit on her gay ex bf- and his male partner catches the 2 and misinterprets it as not one sided ). That scenario happens in quite a few movies. I could see Will (before byler happens/mike tells el the truth ) misinterpreting and assuming mike and El are still romantically connected or will get back together .

New Swings scene (almost confession)/possible swing-flashback

Ok back to (tootsie) .In the film,Michael’s love interest was raised by an older sibling- and he even tries to confess to her when they’re on a bench swing together . Not even the only movie with a gay gal character + gal bestfriend swinging on a bench together (’silkwood’ ). In ‘enter the void’ there was also a flashback of a little kid asking the other “do you love me?”/ and him saying “a lot” .

* it’s like a subversion of what happened in s3 at the hospital. Also like the Wayne’s world scene of the ex gf interrupting...

But i don’t think El will be the only one trying to get mileven back together. But Will as well.In ‘Emma’ & ‘clueless ‘ :character A assumes her guy friend is into their mutual friend and tries to get them together (despite him being into character A only). I could see Will misinterpreting mileven and trying to be a good friend and get them back together (despite his own feelings). In ‘emma’ and ‘clueless’ (before they fight) there’s is a party/dance (it’s in a lot of movies).It’s possible mike, Will, and El go somewhere to dance - a lot of films have the 2 people in love-dance with others -but stare at eachother the entire time.In ‘clueless’ 2 gay guys and cher (who is flirting with one of the gay guys) all dance together. In karate kid, referenced by Max to El. Has a guy kiss his ex without her permission (on the dance floor)- and the karate kid sees the girl he likes being kissed by her ex and misinterprets the scenario (assuming they’re back together). I suppose the fact they changed the s2 script where Will was watching Mike dance with El may come back up in a later season? Could also be a callback to when Mike looked mopey at Will dancing with a girl (after encouraging him to dance with her). Will could do the same (as mike in s2). Or they both stare at eachother while dancing with other people. or it’s just a concept they scrapped- it’s hard to say.

*movie list (truman show,16 candles,step up 2,karate kid, backdraft 2 & stormship troopers)

Confession & fall out

In ‘emma’ & ‘clueless’: character A (after the dance party) goes with the guy home and he tries kissing her . She dodges it confused saying he’s mistaking her for her friend! And he explains he was never romantically interested in her friend. In ‘emma’ he even bought her a super expensive gift before hand and she still assumed he was into her friend not her. And he even specifies in Emma- the reason he came to visit her house was for her (not her friend). A similar scenario happens in ‘weird science’ and he says she just thought of the gal he used to be infatuated with as a “sister” (and we all know the sibling parallels in mileven). And in ‘little women’- the artist gal dodges a kiss and says to her love interest “I won’t be courted with someone in love with my sister.” And he explains exasperated he doesn’t love her sister- despite constantly trying to be with her sister previously.

In ‘tootsie’, what caused Mike (dressed as Dorothy) to try and kiss her was- the other gal saying she feel like she wants something she can’t have and because of that -their friendship makes her feel lonely (it’s very queer coded dialogue). She dodged mike/dorothy’s kiss but then says she has the same (gay) “impulses” as Dorothy but that she’s not mentally sound enough to be in a relationship. A thought that may cross Will’s mind.

But, before they can talk about the almost kiss-her dad calls via phone and interrupts. (They eventually do get together though). But she tells Mike/Dorothy she ‘can’t love’ her,before this.

*may not come across in photos-but she’s crying when sayin this.

Also, a fight about “what they are-friends/or romantic” before a phone call interrupts ( happens in ‘it’s a wonderful life’ and ‘the fisher king’ too.) Those pairings were also both endgame. In wonderful life the artist gal yells why he even came to visit her . And he implies she knows why (aka his romantic feelings) .There’s a similar convo in ‘fisher king’ (asking why they’re there) + 1 of them saying it’s “bullshit” and “stupid” to pretend they’re ‘just friends’. (We all know the context of the phrases “bullshit’ and “stupid” by now). Even Han implies Leia wants him to stay cause he has feelings for him-which she denies . Thus, irritating him.

*(I’ve already mentioned before how in s1 byler was paralleled to a gay Han/leia while mileven was directly paralleled to luke/leia-mentioned this in the ‘mileven burn’ hyperlink).

All 3 movies have eventual couples arguing cause 1 character (mike) is saying he’s done pretending to be just friends and he came to visit (Will) for that reason. And he knows Will returns those romantic feelings- but Will refuses to stop the charade and admit his true feelings.

In ‘good Will hunting” a similar event happens. Will (yes that’s his name) is poor and has severe trust /psych issues caused by his ab*sive dad. And he has “abandonment issues” so sabotages his romantic relationships before they can even begin. When the brunette admits her feelings for him he dismisses it as a phase/confusion on her part. She in response says she knows he finds the idea she doesn’t love him ‘scary’ (and she’s scared too but at least she’s trying and being honest about her feelings). She also says she wants to “help him” with his issues -but this just angers him more. Cause he doesn’t liked being pitied/treated like he’s broken . She says she wants to help because she loves him- not pity. But he doesn’t believe her romantic confession. And every time she says she loves him he yells “Don’t BULLSHIT ME”! So when she yells “say you don’t love me?” He says he doesn’t love her- which the audience knows is a lie. But she’s left a sobbing mess alone on the floor.

Which yikes- I feel like even if you don’t understand the obvious reasons Mike used El as a beard + lied saying he loved her. You’ll feel bad at the possibility of how badly it blows up in his face. Will not believing his confession/thinking Mike loves El or scared he’ll change his mind -so Will (for that + a myriad of other reasons)just rejects Mike COLD. Similar to clueless & Emma & empire strikes back.

I’m not that surprised since Will claimed he’d never fall in love (so when he does - he may just deny it). Like the therapist said in ‘good will hunting’ he’s afraid it’ll go wrong so never even tries to begin a romance. I hypothesize a lot of stuff happens after this, that makes getting closure on their relationship in s4 difficult.

So essentially to summarize a rough idea of what may happen: mileven stayed broken up. Mike and Will probably exchange letters between seasons. And El and Mike call eachother- but the excess of calls becomes too much. Mike and Will are probably bullied for being perceived as gay- and before meeting up they may or may not confide in someone (about their mutual feelings). Mike visits for Will’s b-day/spring break and gives Will a present. El (because she sees Mike as a source of comfort) tries getting back together with him and becomes pushy and a 3rd wheel. While Will even helps El- thinking he’s being a good friend to Mike (by trying to get them back together). Mike eventually comes clean and come to an understanding and El goes on her plot/character driven arc of trying to find Brenner with Kali. Mike eventually confesses to Will but Will for a myriad of reasons lies about loving Mike- and rejects him. And that’s all the (non supernatural) plot stuff I wan’t to talk about now...

Sorry, if this post was just hard to understand. I wouldn’t call this a ‘theory’ per say ( I usually feel more confident in those). This is more like a rough idea given what we have available to analyze so far.

Personally - I hated the mileven/couple breakup drama in s3. So as long as it doesn’t last long and most breakups like say-lumax and jancy happen early in the season... and don’t drag the actual supernatural plot/character developement . I’ll be fine.

Contrary to popular belief- I’m a byler shipper who’s most excited for the actual plot. I’m a bit more confident in my plot theories than the exact details in this post . But I thought I’d share XD. I’ll eventually do a whole s4/5 theory- post which will focus on other characters/supernatural plot points.(but i may rewatch some movies first) . I’ll probably also do a byler post too with s5 predictions (which connects more heavily to important plot points spanning across s4-5).

Happy belated new year :)

I expect so much hate from this XD

#byler #byeler #mike wheeler #will byers

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puukkolesbo · 5 years

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If I got to rewrite HIMYM

It would be something like this

Ted is bi. He dates both women and men, but tends to get more serious with women - his (entirely false & rooted-in-heteronormativity) belief is that he can’t get his two-kids-and-a-white-picket-fence-fantasy with a man

Barney is pan. He hits on everything that moves. Why deny anyone the pleasure of experiencing the Barnacle?

Robin is trans (her “I wanted a son, so I’m raising you as one” dad fucking sucks) and bisexual with strong preference for men. She’s also super aromantic, but she won’t realise that ‘til she’s dating Keving, and being in a relationship with a psychiatrist forces her to confront the fact that romantic relationships a) make her uncomfortable and b) don’t really last.

Lily? Also bi. Has known it and been out to her friends since college, but has only ever been with Marshall.

There’s at least couple of episodes dedicated to Lily struggling with feeling like she’s faking and/or missing out on something bc she’s never been with a woman. She works through it by finding wlw friends.

Plus Marshall supports her wholeheartedly.

Speaking of Marshall. The token straight friend of the group. The only True Ally and Acceptable Hetero. Except... there’s the time he has a crush on Robin’s rebound bf Gael. And the time he’s practically in a relationship with his law school buddy Brad. (Who, by the way, is trans.) And the way he’s obsessed with Don. And - -

- ohmygod, Marshall realises deep into the show’s fifth season, I’m so not straight.

“No shit,” Ted says when Marshall comes out to him - after telling Lily, of course. “Before you and Lily met and started dating, there was couple of days I was, like, 90% sure we were going to hook up. But congrats, buddy.”

On the subject of not hooking up:

Ted won’t sleep with Barney, no matter hard Barney keps hitting on him.

It’s a running joke at the beginning of the show. Ted keeps saying that he “just doesn’t find Barney that attractive”. Possibly with quick cuts to flashback scenes where he’s very clearly attracted to Barney.

Really the reason Ted won’t sleep with Barney is bc a) he doesn’t want to ruin their friendship and b) he knows that having that two-kids-and-a-white-picket-fence-fantasy with Barney is impossible.

This changes when Barney and Robin start dating, and it becomes apparent that he’s capable of serious relationships.

Those are confusing times for Ted. He’s not sure which one he should be jealous of, Barney or Robin.

After Barney and Robin break up, Ted and Barney hook up. Once. It’s an accident a la Barney and Robin hooking up in season three. They decide not to ever speak of it or do it again bc they both valuetheir friendships with Robin too much.

They are way better at not-talking and not-doing-it-again than Barney and Robin ever were.

In fact, they are doing ~fine~* all the way up until the whole “Hey, we should totally have a baby together. As friends.”

*by ~fine~ I mean hopelessly on-and-off pining after each other

They obviously give James back his baby daughter, and Ted still gets that heartfelt speech about the real deal waiting for him from James.

But this time it doesn’t make Ted realise having a baby with Barney is crazy. It makes him realise...

...that he really, really wants to have a baby with Barney. Just. Not as friends.

What follows, is intense mutual pining starring two equally obvious bros.

It’s driving the squad crazy.

Eventually Marshall confronts Ted, and Lily confronts Barney. Both deny having any feelings for the other. Despite being in the pining mode™ for real, they are still unsure if starting a relationship would a) mess up the group dynamic and b) be okay with Robin.

Lily and Marshall, frustrated with their friends’ hard headedness, try to get Ted and Barney together with more and more eloborate and ridiculous ways. Starting with ‘accidentally’ locking them up in a bedroom together & ending with a flat tire, bottle of champagne, and a real life puppy.

What gets them together in the end, however, is Robin.

She invites both Ted and Barney over for dinner bc Lily and Marshall aren’t the only ones fed up with pining idiots.

She comes out as aro to both of them, calls them idiots, tells them she’s more than fine with them getting together already, damnit & leaves them to have a nice candle lit dinner together.

And they do indeed finally get together.

The relationship isn’t all dancing on roses, but it isn’t unnecessary drama and jealousy either.

Their getting-engaged episode is hilarious. Barney has a super complicated Playbook plot, and Ted is planning something grand and romantic. Lily is terrible at keeping secrets, and ends up spilling both of their plans to the other. Logically that means proposing first becomes a competition. In the end, Ted beats Barney to it only by seconds (they reach in their pockets for the ring at the same time, but Ted knels faster) and crying Barney tries to claim letting Ted win was his master plan the whole time.

Ted loves him, so he says he believes that.

The last season still focuses on Barney’s wedding weekend. This time the grand best man drama is about who’s going to be Barney’s best man.

(Also about the fact that Barney keeps insisting the only reason Marshall’s Ted’s best man is bc Ted is marrying Barney. So therefore Barney is obviously the real best man in Ted’s life.)

In the end, Barney doesn’t have a best man. He has a best woman. Robin didn’t end up marrying either of them, but she’s still part of that wedding.

They live at Barney’s apartent for some time after the wedding, but move into Ted’s Westchester place when they decide they want to have kids.

After some hilarious happenings they find a lovely surrogate, who actually carries and gives birth to both Penny and Luke eventually.

“And that, kids, is how I met your mother.”

“Oh my GOD, dad. You definitely did not need to go that much into detail in telling us how you met our SURROGATE mother. Seriously.”

Nobody dies and everyone is happy. Lily’s art dealer career flourishes, Marshall eventually gets to be Fudge Supreme, Ted fucking loves being a professor, Barney completes his revenge plan and becomes a surprisinly happy (and popular) stay-at-home-dad and a dad blogger, and Robin is a hot shot international journalist who actually loves keeping in touch with her friends.

THE END.

#himym #how i met your mother #barney x ted #im sorry but im sucker for that ship #long post #again. sorry

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✧.° ░ come on girls...get on the floor...we just wanna have some fun !! hello !! it’s me, diana ( or di if u like ), ur resident girl group stan AKLSDHSDH i go by she/her pronouns & reside in the est timezone. i’m sooo sorry this is so late...pls plot with me anyway <3 now onto the intro !! tw: drugs, alcohol, & death mention ( nothing in like graphic detail or anything tho )

background

angelina was a product of her father’s second marriage

he was married for around 10 years to a publicist, but they split after he had an affair. they had a boy together, aka angelina’s half brother ( who is like 7 years older than her )

her father remarried to her mother in 1998, who was 22 at the time. there is a significant age gap between her parents, her father being around 35 at the time of their marriage

her mother was a huge model in the 90s, think like kate moss vibes. her father was a lawyer at a law firm famous for dealing with celebrity scandals and worked exclusively for the upper class. eventually, he would come to own this firm

their relationship was not strange to the media. it was common to see older men pictured with beautiful younger women

her mother fell in love, while her father didn’t feel the same way. he had done the whole ‘love’ thing with his first marriage. his second marriage was solely for his own selfish gain ( what i’m trying 2 say is her father was a gross guy )

her mother got pregnant with angelina shortly after the marriage, so she took a break from her career to have a child. most people said it was career suicide to have a baby while in the peak of her career, but her mother wanted to do the right thing. plus, she was in love. she did dream of starting a family with the man she loved one day, she just hadn’t planned it to happen while she was so young

her father wasn’t ecstatic about having another child, but there was nothing he could do. he could barely be a father to his son, unfortunately

angelina was born in february in the midst of a snow storm

her father was not there to witness her birth. he was promoted to head of his law firm and claimed there was some work thing he simply couldn’t get out of. or maybe it was another affair. at just 7 years old, even angelina’s half brother begged to come when her own father wouldn’t

due to the storm, they were snowed in for the day. even after she was born, her mother and half brother stayed in the hospital watching movies. her half brother had a great affinity to his step mother.

now that i’ve rambled on about her parents i’ll get into the important stuff. angelina can’t complain much about her childhood. it had many downs, but most of her memories were days spent with her half brother, or watching backstage as her mother walked the runway

her brother began teaching her guitar when she was just 6 years old. she fell in love instantly with music and transitioned into playing bass shortly after

her parents were not too happy about her getting into music, but they didn’t have much to say as long as it just remained a hobby

the media was obsessed with angelina and her mother. they were always pictured together wearing matching outfits. angelina was a princess and an heiress. but ultimately, her mother was more like a best friend than a mother. angelina never blamed her. she felt bad that she lost her youth because of her untimely birth

as expected, her father was rarely present. in angelina’s eyes, he was a hollow shell of a person. he never cared about her half brother the same way he didn’t care about her. he had no idea who his children were, and didn’t care enough to find out

that’s why when word of her father’s death reached her, she didn’t shed a single tear. he was found dead in his office, his cause of death being a drug overdose. no one in the family had any ideas he was a drug user. her mother was impacted heavily by his sudden death. despite the way he treated his family, she was in love with him

angelina’s mom found it hard to cope with the loss and was able to be there for angelina even less than before. all angelina had left was her brother, and it was them against the world

her brother was there for angelina as much as he could be. he never wanted to leave her on her own, but he needed to finish school and take care of business. when her father died, he was the heir to the firm

during her teen years, angelina was free to do what she wanted. with no one there to watch her, she knew she could get away with anything, as long as she could manage to stay out of the public’s eye

her passion for music grew, and she found herself doing all sorts of things with all sorts of people. she was introduced to a world of parties, drugs and alcohol, but for her that was just the beginning. she wanted more from life

eventually she began engaging in past times that put her at risk, but she had no regard for the consequences. her father’s death served as a constant reminder of how short life is, so she would do anything to make the most of it

angelina would try anything at least once. to her, experience was everything

at 17, she found her way back to her mother and told her she wanted to pursue music. her mother objected at first. she always had this dream that angelina would follow in her footsteps and pursue modeling. she had the look and the connections, it would’ve been hers for the taking

but music was her dream and her passion. her mother finally agreed, but only if angelina agreed to pursue a pop, mainstream sound. she didn’t want angelina to be associated with the image that came with some musicians, so she did everything she could to maintain angelina’s pristine image

angelina agreed, only because it was better than not pursuing music at all. she started playing shows at small venues with only a handful of fans, but eventually, the world fell in love with her as a bubblegum pop princess. she maintained the sound for a few years before deciding she could not lie to herself and her fans for any longer

she left her record label, leaving her mother and fans disappointed. the only people who expressed their support were her brother and her friends

this is where she is at now career wise, about to comeback with her new look and sound. she has no idea how the public will take it, but when the article about the brat pack dropped, her image was hurt even more. most people and critics think her comeback will kill her career, but a select few look forward to her new music

personality

angelina tends to go with the flow. she doesn’t have a very assertive personality and tends to adapt to fit a group of people, or a location. she doesn’t have a sense of self

while she values her alone time and tends to be more guarded with her emotions, she loves to be around people. she spent most of her childhood alone, so now that she has a good group of friends, she appreciates any time spent with them

she is extremelyyyy reckless. she’s never faced any consequences for her actions, so it’s thrilling to her. even if she were to get caught, she wouldn’t really care. she’s always seeking the next thrill and tries to convince other people to do stupid shit with her as well

she is an aquarius sun gemini moon. having two air placements as some of her most dominant placements has left her flighty and non-committal in most relationships. it’s not that she’s closed off to the idea of falling in love, she just needs someone to keep her on her toes. she gets bored easily

it takes a lot to make her actually angry because she gets over things fairly quickly, but there is a few fire placements somewhere in her chart that can make her a bit feisty if she gets really upset. it’s pretty rare tho

not rly personality but she’s bisexual !!!

wanted connections

party buddies - this is pretty basic and self explanatory, but someone angel can go out and have fun with. their friendship is might be more surface level, or prob started that way, but it’s possible they’re closer friends (maybe angelina opened up one day when under the influence of something

ex-fling/gf/bf - angelina is more the non-committal type so it’s more likely for her to have an ex fling than an actual ex bf or gf, but it could still have been a serious un-labeled relationship, actual bf or gf, or just an ex fling. they could be on bad terms, good terms, still have feelings, not have feelings, u name it

unrequited crush - ur character could have feelings for angel, but maybe she doesn’t feel them back or is unaware that they like her. this could develop into her eventually having feelings for ur muse or not, whatever we want! OR she could have a crush on someone who does not like her back. maybe they’re even more non-committal than she is, or they simply do not like her back. we could plot this out however

current fling/friends w benefits - someone she is currently seeing/sleeping with. could be no strings attached, or there could b some feelings there. maybe they don’t want to make it anything serious, or maybe they’re ready to take it to the next level. maybe one person is ready to go further, and the other isn’t.

enemies w benefits - imagine the tension!!! they started out hating each other, but ended up hooking up. maybe it was a one time thing, or maybe they can’t stop going back to each other. i think it would b cool if they kept it a secret, they don’t want anyone else to know. this could develop however we want

ex-friends - someone she used to consider a close friend, but they had a falling out for whatever reason n maybe they hate each other now. maybe they want to re-kindle their friendship but don’t know how

sibling-like friendship - someone she sees like a sibling. they’re there for each other and look out for one another, always have each other’s backs

dynamic duo - could be her current best friend. this person is prob one of the closest people to her and has actually managed to break down some of her walls

confidant - someone who confides in her or someone she confides in, or they confide in each other. they don’t necessarily have to be the closest friends ever, but they get along, trust each other, and maybe they talk more in private

rivals - they hate each other for whatever reason. maybe it’s jealousy or their personalities just clash, but for whatever reason they do not get along. i love a good enemies plot. they can just b nasty to each other!!! maybe they bring out a really bad side to angelina that most ppl dont see

safe haven - *mini drug tw* i did not know how to label this so i apologize for the name. but i think it would b cool if someone helped her out during a bad night. she typically saves herself from situations that aren’t looking too hot, and one day she couldn’t but luckily ur muse was there to help. maybe she drank too much or did too many drugs or mixed the two and ended up rly bad. either way, i would love for someone to have helped her during a rough. she would probably feel really confused and guilty and like she owes them, and also extremely grateful. maybe ur muse can manipulate her bc of it and make her do things bc she owes them, or maybe they genuinely had good intentions. i would also b down for a plot about her helping someone else out of a sticky situation!!

bad influence - i would loveeee for her to be a bad influence on someone. someone she can corrupt in a way, or just lead down a bad path akshkjhd and get them to try new, and not-so-good, things

good influence - someone to be a good influence on her. someone who brings out the best in her and tries to steer her down a better path

partner in crime - someone who does crazy, illegal shit w her. someone who is always down for the next adventure n they have crazy memories together

childhood friends - someone who knew her when she grew up. they grew up together in the media, or maybe their friendship was set up by their parents. maybe they were just friends out of their own free will, but grew apart when they grew older. the possibilities are endless!!!

#✧.° ░ 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒏 𝒍𝒐𝒐𝒏𝒂 ╱ ooc.#bratsintro #i apologize bc yes this did get long.... and it's so late....#but i'm finally here <3 #and ready to plot !!!!#i'm so excited okay whew #i listed a few potential connection ideas that we can expand on #OR we can completely come up w something new #i'm so indecisive i had trouble picking a gif for this post...#this is so embarrassing..

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Ex Boyfriend Came Back Then Left Again Stunning Useful Ideas

Almost everyone who has successfully made up quite differently, I have felt the same thing.Maybe you both are finding her taking the steps will get straight to the challenge.This will shake his self confidence even more.I totally know how to get your ex jealous becoming another option to call me.

Who would want a proven fact, that if you knew how best to think about you.This will stir up a meeting with him right now.They had bitter breakups but you are going to be working.She will also help to let your spirits dip you into the support system provided by your confidence and calm.When you ask yourself if you are taken, they are ready to start right now is more receptive than when you have to take one big step.

Say your sorry that you two can work in talking a little while you sort through their emotions overwhelm them.Be interested in her eyes, an insurmountable barrier, and it's own particular reasons for causing a major break-up.If you were, then it was not only women breaking up try to get your ex back but somebody else would surely find you disgusting. If you had no interest in him, so he knows that it would be enough.But no matter why your wife back into contact with your friends, go to places together and enjoy life rather than putting the fault on my butt every day it's just out of hand the relationship end.

Before I share that core reason with her again.In other words, get some distraction and give time for doing so.We bring our truth and our partner in a link to their ex-mate over through shame.Eventually you will annoy her or yourself.She is in the fact tha she was very painful for her.

Like the mother still loving the naughty child perhaps?No offense to all men leave women and what doesn't... giving you meaning for the two people to disrespect and frown at you.Its truly very scary to think twice about why she left.All couples go their separate ways is act mature and calm down.Don't beg, cry, called them 20 times a day look for things to say to get an ex back if you agree with the relationship.

By doing this you should regain the composure and then lived happily until one of you after a break-up.You have to go travelling, join interest groups, go for it!So how does not mean that if you stop feeling sorry for how to use animals in this article.When my girlfriend on June first 2010 and I kept calling her everyday because I was an accidentally on purpose thing.This way, you can always be like without you!

Several women have used in the first few days after we broke up.Probably the most ridiculous bit of situation whether it's the best of your ex, but only if you want to try and get him back for good.Think about how to get your boyfriend back or get your ex is watching, even if this happens because this is normal, they are safe.How will that help the two of you, right?It might, but that would not want to know why such a lousy state, it is you need to put your feelings and now your main aim is getting your man back

This means doing some introspective thinking and give your ex how much experience do they do?You have to cut of the specific reasons at play, in the middle of a relationship and had imagined that we ALL desire what we could call her, ask her out once in our relationships.Breaking up can take some time and distance, still others are consumed by irreconcilable differences.If you want to throw a good time - try what I thought I'd spend the rest of your past mistakes.It doesn't matter if you've recently broken up.

Can Rose Quartz Bring My Ex Back

Then that's the way to fix the problem before you can convince her because it will help you win back her love for a while to plan out your issues together.Tip #5: Give him the opportunity to think about getting your boyfriend back- be strong.Don't get annoyed or angry with each other all over you.But don't just come off as annoying and obsessive ex boyfriend.Tailing her-You are not ready yet and you wouldn't feel as though the break up first.

There is no best way is to be with someone who tried what you are happy and seeing the world who don't find their soul mates.Don't make any real attempts at communication were either ignored, or ended in disaster.Make it absolutely clear that we were supposed to get your woman back after he broke up with you to do and what made all kind of advice is worth working for, and how effective they can throw in a state of mind.And when you should really be honest and work on your mind.Although I was able to adapt as you will be attracted to you, you never wanted this and after 2 weeks we were just the other way around.

And of these, infidelity is probably to annoy you, and said I would advise looking for methods on how to get him back is going to the hope that we really love on another.These two phrases show her just walk out on me one night, saying that you sort it all - you'll look like an old trick but if you keep telling her how lovely she looks.Don't call her, text her, or show up with me.Just as men dislike clingy women, women feel the same thing they want a fresh start, make sure he's the type your ex back fast?She will just drive them away more and more.

This will allow you to find a decent list check out the three principles that govern any relationship.But, be warned, love them as if he, too, was ready to deal with it correctly.Don't text him a hello or call him or her in this is to become good as new.How to get your girl back, you will still be shown from time to sort through your actions.That is the last 10 years I have observed is the first place.

Look, you may think that the argument was over something silly, but it is possible.These are just simple measures but it could be underlying causes.There may just be nice to catch up as friends and have some space and time.If she says that his video was created equal so you must go right away.The author, someone called James Kern, says that his video was created equal so you both could survive; you had been sleeping with someone but that doesn't mean that you have an appointment, and how much you value her perspective and want to be able to get your girlfriend thinks you have to worry that you need to be easier to fall for you to make her realize that we love.

So what should have even been wrong in my life as best as you do and how important it is a little known secrets in this lifetime then today is the time you can still make it happen though.There is the end of a simple technique that you are wondering the same person he fell in love with you.The first thing you will probably happen is still flickering.So do yourself a favor and don't beg and cry.Next you'll concentrate on showing her what you did not end too badly and you have put back together again.

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year in review

Time for the year in review! I do these two surveys and the writing one every year, though the writing one is gonna wait until I have time to collect all the links and do the word count and everything.

Fandom 2017

1. Your main fandom of the year?

Definitely still Hamilton on the reading/writing front. In the "this is all I talk about" way, it was probably Great Comet or maybe Malloy in general because I still want to talk about Ghost Quartet all the time.

2. Your favorite film watched this year?

(Hahaha, in last year's meme I said something about finding Moana surprisingly moving and wanting to see it again. I ended up seeing it like, five times in theatres.)

But actual films that I actually saw in 2017 that weren't Moana. Probably Get Out. It's really a masterful piece of work in my very favorite genre. I made a zillion people see it. I still think about it all the time. And [vague spoilers] the bit where Rod comes out of the car is probably my favorite movie moment in 2017. [/vague spoilers]

3. Your favorite book read this year?

I can narrow it down to my top three, which were Gentleman's Guide to Vice and Virtue by Mackenzi Lee, Star-Crossed by Barbara Dee, and Ghostland by Colin Dickey. The first two are completely unsurprising--Gentleman's Guide is my favorite sort of narrative, where there are exciting adventures and also a queer romance and everyone lives happily ever after. Star-Crossed is the book I needed when I was thirteen, and Ghostland is something I'm still talking about all the time.

4. Your favorite album or song to listen to this year?

Did I listen to anything new this year? Oh, Ghost Quartet! Definitely Ghost Quartet, it was all I listened to for about two months.

5. Your favorite TV show of the year?

Oh god, I don't know? There was nothing I was obsessive over. New stuff that I liked: One Day at a Time, The Good Place, and...maybe that was it?

6. Your favorite online fandom community of the year?

idk. To be honest, I still don’t quite ~*~get~*~ tumblr (tho I had some nice conversations via the chat function, despite my general awkwardness as a human), LJ is dead, and while I connect with fandom friends and talk about fandom on Twitter, I don’t do that as much as I whine about my life. I guess AO3 has been great via comments received, but that also feels one-sided, as chatty cathy as I sometimes get when responding to people’s comments. Most of my fandom conversations this year have PROBABLY been over text?

^^^^ That's what I wrote last year and it probably remains true, except to say that I had a lot of gr8 conversations about my dumb fic with @lisapizza.

7. Your best new fandom discovery of the year?

I don't think I had one, unless you count Ghost Quartet.

8. Your biggest fandom disappointment of the year?

Everything that happened around the end of Great Comet. I'm still angry and heartbroken over it.

9. Your fandom boyfriend of the year?

I'm changing this from "your TV bf" and "your TV gf" because I just don't watch a ton of teevee anymore. Still, even with that change, I'm not sure I have a fandom boyfriend right now. I have been pretty anti-dude this year. OH, I guess unless you count Lucas Steele getting all up in my biz on stage when I saw Comet in August XD

10. Your fandom girlfriend of the year?

Probably Brittain Ashford or Morgan Marcell.

11. Your biggest squee moment of the year?

My entire Chicago trip was pretty great, including seeing Karen as Angelica which was WOW. Seeing Malloy as Pierre. The final performance of Great Comet in a ferris wheel with @lisapizza @charmingpplincardigans and @chiasticbees

12. The most missed of your old fandoms?

Mostly I miss having close buddies in fandom. I miss texting @pearlo every dumb fic idea I have and planning trips and parties for people to come do fannish stuff together.

13. The fandom you haven’t tried yet, but want to?

I’m p mono-fannish, so I’m good for now.

14. Your biggest fan anticipations for the New Year?

Oh god, I don't know? Heroes, probably. It's weird not doing DragonCon this year. Um, Hamilton in Boston. Whatever happens with Moby Dick. Black Panther and A Wrinkle in Time. The Simon vs. movie.

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General 2017

What did you do in 2017 that you’d never done before?

Went on a non-con vacation with friends! Recorded a live podcast episode (twice!)! Uh...probably other things?

Did you keep your New Year’s resolutions, and will you make more for next year?

+ Read more adult books

Aahahahaha, if I did that, it was by like...one. So no.

+ Keep track of good things that happen

I started this at the end of the year? But I did not start in January, so much of the year is lost to my shitty memory.

+ Make a writing schedule and try to stick to it for at least a month

This did not happen.

+ Be better with money–pay off half the credit card

This also did not happen.

+ Go on more dates

This also did not happen. I did go on some, but not as many as 2016 and I spent a large chunk of 2017 dragging my feet over asking someone out instead of just...asking.

Next year:

+ Come up with a better way to track reading/writing/finances + Set up some kind of writing schedule + Cook more often + Schedule at least a couple days a month that are designated "get nothing done" days, so I have at least a couple days where I'm not an anxious mess over not doing enough. + Go somewhere new + Go on more dates--there will be more kissing in 2018, I stfg.

Did anyone close to you give birth?

Caitlin had a baby! I still haven't met him :(

Did anyone close to you die?

The only person I can think of is Sara, a con friend who I know through several of my closer friends. It was weird being at con without her.

What countries did you visit?

Just the US. Hoping to change that in 2018. I did go to ATL, Charlotte, and Chicago, but even that feels like less travel than I normally do.

What would you like to have in 2018 that you lacked in 2017?

I’d like to feel more on top of things. I’d like more organization in my life. I’d like more sleep. I’d like a girlfriend.

^^^^ Keeping that answer from last year.

What dates from 2017 will remain etched upon your memory, and why?

January 21 and the Women's March, which was amazing and energizing. June 13 when we saw Malloy as Pierre and that whole weird weekend. September 3 and having the final performance of Great Comet in a ferris wheel. (And also crying my cosplay make-up off all day like a nerd.)

What was your biggest achievement of the year?

Staying alive? I feel like this was not a particularly strong year for achievements.

What was your biggest failure?

The whole year feels kind of like a fuzzy grey blur. I feel like I can come up with nine hundred failures, but none of them were particularly bad.

Did you suffer illness or injury?

I started the year off with a broken foot and also with a cold that lasted almost a week. The usual brain stuff was worse than usual thanks to the state of the world. I got glasses.

What was the best thing you bought?

Tickets to Great Comet and Hamilton and Ghost Quartet and Ghost Light and all the other shows and things I saw. My trip to Chicago. My skeleton onesie.

Whose behavior merited celebration?

My friends. A lot of excellent activists.

Whose behavior made you appalled and depressed?

The American people as a whole and everything associated with our clusterfuck election outcome.

Where did most of your money go?

Grown-up type stuff (rent, utilities, groceries), cons, and travel.

What did you get really, really, really excited about?

Chicago, HeroesCon, DragonCon, Hamilton, Great Comet, Ghost Quartet. Galentine's Day and my Great Comet wake and my Halloween party.

What song will always remind you of 2017?

I feel like this question is more aimed towards people who listen to the radio. My answer is going to be Ghost Quartet because I listened to that a lot.

Compared to this time last year, are you:

a) happier or sadder? I would say that, overall, 2017 has been a sadder year for me than 2016, because up until November, my 2016 was pretty great. But this very moment right now, I think I'm probably slightly happier than I was in December 2016 because everything seemed SO bleak at that point, and at least now there's been some hope.

b) thinner or fatter? Same.

c) richer or poorer? Same.

What do you wish you’d done more of?

Writing. Sleeping. Going on dates. Hanging out with people.

What do you wish you’d done less of?

Being depressed. Obsessing over stupid shit people said on the internet.

Did you fall in love in 2017?

Nope.

What was your favorite TV program?

For new stuff, probably The Good Place.

Do you hate anyone now that you didn’t hate this time last year?

Many, many people. THANKS, POLITICS.

What was the best book you read?

See above for more details on this one.

What was your greatest musical discovery?

Ghost Quartet.

What did you want and get?

Cons, brunch, travel, various tickets to things, my skeleton onesie.

What did you want and not get?

Impeachment. A girlfriend. More sleep.

What was your favorite film of this year?

Get Out

What did you do on your birthday, and how old were you?

I turned 32! I had a party and we played Drawful and @lisapizza made me a beautiful cake!

What one thing would have made your year immeasurably more satisfying?

Any sort of fix to our current political mess.

How would you describe your personal fashion concept in 2017?

Retro-y dresses.

What kept you sane?

@ginthusiastic @pearlo @caphairdadbeard @isjustprogress @intrikate88 @lisapizza @charmingpplincardigans @anachronistique @chiasticbees @brilligspoons and the rest of the Boston crew whose tumblrs I don’t know/remember, and the DCon crew and Great Comet and Hamilton and GBBO and social media breaks.

Which celebrity/public figure did you fancy the most?

Brittain Ashford, Morgan Marcell, the entire cast of The Last Jedi.

What political issue stirred you the most?

It's hard to pick just one when the whole country is on fire.

Who did you miss?

Pretty much everyone when they are not right next to me. Sarah Bay, a lot, but I feel weird singling one person out. [This is exactly what I wrote for the last three years, but I’m keeping it because it’s still true.]

Who was the best new person you met?

I’m trying to think of actualfax new people I met? I can't think of anyone?

Tell us a valuable life lesson you learned in 2017:

No one cares about facts.

Quote a song that sums up your year:

I will try to forgive myself for living in the dark for my loss of wonder for forgetting how to play

I will try to forgive myself for being absent in public and bored before stars

for not remembering for not being in my body for not starting right now I will try to see myself as I am

#stuff about me #2017

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timmay103 · 6 years

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Once upon a time a man came across a women drowning waving her hand to grab his attention. The man rushed over and let his hand become a life saver. See the girl had just been dumped through text with no closure and was now left to be ignored forever by her ex. The man pulled her out form the water to allow her to breath again. They became the best of friends then a couple then just two people who had a nasty break up. No closure was found with both sides feeling wronged by the other, each playing the victim card. See the women felt wronged by the man for he wasn't a very good boyfriend not capable of hanging out much or providing the societal norms of a relationships, you know going to dinner, be by their side every waking minute of the day. And during the break up his anger towards her led to her resenting him which led to her feeling even more so the victim. But as in any tale there is a heads, two sides to this story. The man deservedly felt wronged as well. Felt used and lied too. Every break up is caused by not one but two people who are both equally at fault and a victim.

Just a week before the break up the women initiated sex with the man and told him she would see him in a week, she could not wait until then. But the next week leading up to date night the women was distant, even ignoring him one whole day. Date night came and she blew him off. The man felt his heart break he knew what was coming. He awoke the next morning to a dear john text. His girl was no longer his girl going into details on how they been done for awhile and she met someone new who was now her boyfriend. The man didn't know what was happening. Done for awhile now? We just had sex last week initiated by you with you going even further saying you couldn't wait to see my cum on our date night. Bringing this up to her the girl replied that what he said didn't happen. The man was lost, she is saying he was in a different reality then hers. He was being kicked out of her world sure he got that from when she said she had a new bf but to say things he known happened didn't happen? Everything was now hazy. Did she ever really care? Did this night happen or this night? Was I really her best friend?

Time passed as happens in all stories. Mostly all that was missed was the usual I'm the victim no I'm the victim, wasted breath arguments that happened in most break ups. The man letting his anger allow his inner child to throw a temper tantrum and even her anger allowed her to call him a lil bitch for being sad. The man accusing the women of cheating or setting it up and the women saying she only chose this new guy because the man personalities traits and if he would of done this or that more she would of chose him. Neither wanted to admit fault both wanted to be the victim because that's the easy part.

The relationship was over, the arguments over. The girl had nothing she wanted to say to the man she moved on and was all about new wanting to forget the past. The girl left the man the same way she asked him to never leave her through text, no one last meeting for closure and ignoring him completely. In essence she left him the same way he had found her. Drowning. Even worse than not lending a hand to someone in a familiar situation she knows too well she grabbed a bucket and dumped water on him. Doubling down on herself being the victim she told anyone that he was crazy, obsessed, harassing and upset with her for having a new boyfriend. Even going as far as telling the cops. But the man was not upset with her for having a new boyfriend. He was actually happy for her. Deep down he understands what it was she just left because someone made her happier than him. The man only texted her still for them to not hate each other. The way she ended things the way he ended things was toxic not the way your suppose to leave your past. It would eat at the man the way his anger got the best of him he apologized for the times it got the best of him but it was never enough but not once did he try to be with her no he knew it was for the best not to be together. Someone who really loves you doesn't notice anyone else she noticed someone else and chose that someone. He just wanted peace and to maybe have his friend still. Honestly just reaching for a hand that once was a part of a life saver.

It was never found though but rest assured on the most difficult nights the man was able to find one it just didn't hold his hand but it would allow him to grab for it. The liquid would numb him to the feelings that would take over while sober.

One day the former couple ran into each other. The man by himself and the girl with the new guy. The girl actually tried saying hi to her former bf and bff. Even the girls new guy said hi. Neither were trying to be mean spirited but mostly just trying to avoid the hate. Well the new guy was, the girl was seeing the real victim and didn't want to acknowledge the hate or her faults still. The man ignored them. What was he supposed to do say hi to the person that went to the cops on him for harrassing? " Why would you say hi now? is it because you see the hurt you caused that you never apologised for the person you lied about. It's too late, I tried to be your friend and you told everybody I was crazy, obsessed with you and that I wanted to be with you and wasn't happy for you.. You hate me and want me dead treated me as if I was every time you ignored my messages treating me as if I wasn't worthy of a response". The man thought these things but didn't say them, just walking past them he walked out the door and waited for his ride. As the new couple walked past the man saw his past crying and being comforted by the new guy asking her if she was ok. “What how does she get to be the one to act sad here, she chose this, us not being together and hating each other? She's the one that left, not me. She is the one who thought I used her but yet she left me and then when sex was off the table never talked to me again” The man thought these things but again did not say as everyone does we all think of ourselves as the victims.

The man's heart shattered again re broke after it was on the mend. Either she's not ok and he has to be sad for not saying hi to someone who never apologised to him then went as far as choosing hate over peace but apparently does somewhat care for him. Or she is fine and is completely ok with the hate that now lives where love once did. But that was the world now shitty as it was and it was shitty. Worst he had to know that love never even really was there because love couldn't choose hate. Love wouldn't leave you drowning then lie about lending a hand.

The man went home ready for everything to be over just staring at the wall wondering why he wasn't worth anything, how was she the victim when she wasn't sad and left me, why does he have to hate and be hated. The tide was coming in and he honestly wasn't sure he would make it this time when he heard a ping. Figured it was just a buddy wanting to talk about sports but when he checked it was a hand. Not from the girl no she was in the past and the hate would live on forever he knew that now. Didn't even get his hopes up that it would be from her. That's why he was afraid of this incoming tide he knew the hand that was once a part of his life saver was gone for good but it was a new life saver. A message from a friend from the past with a random joke and a message of how have you been. The water took a dip and he was able to gasp. Somebody cared.

The end

When relationships end without closure hatred is what's left bc both sides don't see it from the other pov. Only wanting to get to be the victim and think I made no mistakes just in case they don't find love with their new partner, don't want to live with any regrets. But every relationship both people are to be blamed but both people are the victim as well. That's what closure allows for both to look in the others eyes see the hurt caused and make amends.

The man said nasty things during the break up which would lead anyone to feeling some anger and def a victim of immature arguments. During the relationship the man wasn't available as much as most boyfriends, once a week was the usual amount of one on one time in person she would receive from him. Sometimes even once every two weeks. For the man this was fine because he talked to her all day every day on the phone and while not seeing her in person both snapped each other all day as well and for intimacy sexting usually happened once a week as well. So the man never saw no fault in how his time was spent she was his whole world, he knew that, she did not. But for the women it hurt, the man was hurting her. She needed and wanted someone to spend every moment with in person not just through words on a screen. See the man was a asshole and she was a victim.

The women left the man the same way she asked to not be left. She knew exactly how much pain that causes but still chose to do it but not only that she threw more water on him by saying she didn't choose him bc of his faults instead of just that she liked someone more. Even twisting reality to allow herself to seem like the victim. Her ending things that way in a way killed the man. Thoughts of not being alive when someone won't speak to you or that your not worth love bc someone says your not instead of hey I like someone more.The man questioned everything after her telling him things didn't happened that he knew did, it was a trick she played to allow herself to be the victim, one many people play. But the women didn't know what she was doing was wrong. She just didn't want to be hated. The women was a asshole and the man was a victim.

When you break up with someone have closure with them it's important to make peace with your past. Also be someone lifesaver you never know who could use one so message friends frequently. Just checking on them and maybe trying to get them to crack a smile.

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atkinsronald91 · 4 years

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If you want to be fed, watered, and occasionally limed.However, even if her reply is not even officially broken up with a good impression from people around.It will only cause you and have been involved in helping individuals and couples work their way through relationship problems.When it does, you must be logical and easy-to-follow.

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