want to give my two cents on the AI usage in the maestro trailer--
i think seventeen doing a whole concept that is anti-AI is very cool, especially as creatives themselves i think it's good that they're speaking up against it and i hope it gets more ppl talking about the issue. i also understand on a surface level the artistic choice (whether it was made by the members, the mv director, or whoever else), to directly use AI in contrast to real, human-made visuals and music in order to criticize it. i also appreciate that they clearly stated the intention of the use of AI at the beginning of the video
however, although i understand it to an extent, i do not agree with the choice to use AI to critique AI. one of the main ethical concerns with generative AI is that it is trained on other artists' work without their knowledge, consent, or compensation. and even when AI generated images are being used to critique AI, it still does not negate this particular ethical concern
the use of AI to critique also does not negate the fact that this is work that could have been done by an actual artist. i have seen some people argue that it's okay in this context because it's a critique specifically about AI, and it is content that never would have been done by a real artist anyway because it doesn't make sense for the story they're trying to tell. but i disagree. i think you can still tell the exact same story without using AI
and in fact, i would argue that it would make the anti-AI message stronger if they HAD paid an artist to draw/animate the scenes that are supposed to represent AI generated images. wouldn't it just be proof that humans can create images that are just as bad and nonsensical and soulless as AI, but that AI can't replicate the creativity and beauty and basic fucking anatomy that's in human-made art?
it feels very obvious this was not just a way to cut corners and costs like a lot of scummy people are using AI for. ultimately it was a very intentional creative decision, i just personally think it was a very poor one. and even if some ethical considerations were taken into account before this decision, i certainly don't think all of them were. at the very least i feel like the decision undermines the message they want to convey
i would also like to recognize that i myself am not an artist, and i have seen some artists that are totally on board with the use of AI in this specific context, so clearly this is not a topic that is cut and dry. but generative AI is still new, and i think it's important to keep having these conversations
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im sorry but you're seriously projecting angst in a way that is insanely wild against q!phil
why should phil give more trust to tubbo when from day 1 tubbo has been making fun of phil's problems? he minimizes the shit phil goes through CONSTANTLY (making fun of his kidnapping and the birdhouse, joking about missa being gone, now joking about his wings)
i also dont think it's fair to expect phil to treat tubbo "like family" when tubbo himself has NEVER treated phil like family in the server
he treats him like his friend, and he respects him. that's it
if anything, phil is the one who has said outloud the words "toby is family, you can trust him" to his eggs, even giving him a family title (godfather), while tubbo has never said something similar about him -neither to sunny or otherwise-, to my knowledge
I am so not saying that qtubbo is in the right for making fun of qphil, not in the slightest. I do agree that qtubbo minimizes the problems, which is very problematic to his image through qphils eyes as well. However qphil makes fun of qtubbos very real problems as well. For example, while qtubbo was breaking down about fred in front of qphil, he laughed and disregarded them completely. They both undermine echothers traumas and problems. And, it is not in vain. I do not think qtubbo or qphil want to hurt eachother with their words, however they do, which puts a strain on their relationship.
On the treating each other like family, qphil has a family. Chayanne, tallulah, missa, and wilbur, is his family. When qtubbo joined the server, he was alone. But qphil gave him the role as godfather. Told him to prorect his kids. And to this day, qtubbo cherishes and loves his godkids. And that is qtubbos family for a long time. However, qphil does not need qtubbo to have a family. He can drop qtubbo with a drop of a hat. And qtubbo knows that. So in my FAKE scenario, i thought it would be scary to accept that you mean nothing to someone you care about.
You say that qtubbo respects phil and 'thats it' . Thats it???? Qtubbo's respect for qphil is overpowering. Qtubbo sees qphil as a family member, and qphil does not. I never said qphil is obligated to feel the same way, i just thought it is sad that it is that way.
Thus came to the thing i wrote. I belive that qphil is the one who sees him as a friend and respects him only, not the other way around.
about mentioning family to sunny, sunny's relationship with the death family is complicated. On one hand, Chayanne is a good friend to sunny, and even closer to qtubbo which encourages her to be better friends. On the other hand there is Tallulah. Sunny, who when tried making friends with her, Tallulah rejected her and explained why she cant become friends with her. Sunny, although accepting, is dissapointed at being rejected once again, by someone her pa loves no less. And finally there is Phil. Sunny, in the past, has expressed her distaste for qphil, and when given the chance to spend time with him, is apprehensive. qphil has also said that he does not trust the new eggs. (Let me just say i do not resent qphil or tallulah for these actions, they have their own reasons, im just highlighting them to make a point.) Qtubbo, knowing the problems sunny has with death family, cannot say the same things qphil has said, because if they were to try and persue a familial relationship, she would be rejected.
I hope this helps you understand my point of view 🫡
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im rambling about me n devons ocsssss
for the deaths part, there's suicide mention(s) and mention(s) of fire !!
let m see if can remember deaths;
starting with the royales—
Jeremy was Michael Afton'ed (he got his insides ripped out basically)
Lucy got into... a car accident??? @deeplyinlovewithstars help
I think they said Diana got kidnapped? unsure
Dilon hung himself at a young age (the range was 5-12?? I think. I just know he was the first to die)
Derek was shot in the head at 15
Delilah got caught in a fire (I forget how old she was)
as for the mantovans—
Shamora got pushed off a building (I think she was the last to die.)
Alexandra was shot on her 16th birthday
misc characters—
Josh was deliberately drowned when he was twelve
Ash, same case scenario as Delilah, when he was younger
Haru (i forgot. but this just reminded me that HE was the last to die, not shamora)
and I'm sure that there are more, I just can't think of anyone else important
okay, now present canon ships !!!!! >:D (exes and current partners)
Josmora (Josh x Shamora; married)
Dilexru (this is an improvised ship name for Dilon x Alexandra x Haru; married)
Derash (Derek x Ash; married)
Jerelucy (Jeremy x Lucy; married)
Alarchie (Alexandra x Archie; exes)
Dereseph??? (Derek x Joseph; exes)
that's all I can remember
other relationships—
Diana, Dilon, Derek, Delilah (oldest-youngest; siblings)
Shamora, Alexandra (siblings)
Alexandra, Derek (best friends; in-laws)
Shamora, Delilah/Dilon (best friends; in-laws)
Delilah, Joshua/Ash (best friends; in-laws? Ash is her in law, not sure about Josh)
Shamora, Dilory (enemies. Dilory fucking killed her bye)
Every main OC, Joseph (they would all kill him on the spot)
probably some more
HEADCANONS + FACTS YAYYY
oh God where to begin
let's get. let's get Dilon out of the way. we hced a few months ago that he would NNNOT bail his spouses out of prison. oh, shamoras in jail? bailed. Josh is in jail? bailed. Lucy is in jail? bailed. Alex and Haru? keep them in there until their sentence is up. (/hj). don't get him wrong, he LOVES his spouses. but holy shit.
everyone has daddy issues. except ash. he's an orphan he doesn't get issues (jkjk but I THINK he had mommy issues??)
fun fact; the ONLY OC who has kept her personality throughout the years, was Lucy. she's perfect. I cringe every time I read back on old roleplays and see old screenshots. shamora would NOT act like this KILL IT
another fun fact; we would always argue over whether or not Jeremy was a top or bottom. this bitch recently revealed that he is a SWITCH (as Jeremy is their oc)
ANOTHER fun fact; during the starting days of our roleplays, Jeremy was like. Lucifer and Lucy was like Lillith. I'm so positive that this HAS changed. a lot. it probably isn't even canon anymore js
I think that Derek and Haru get along well, and yes it is because Joseph is Haru's brother as well as Derek's ex, BUT! Haru does NOT, and WILL not condone the type of abuse Joseph put Derek through EVER. he does not condone his brother's actions whatsoever, and always sided with Derek after he found out about everything.
adding onto Derek and Haru; Derek probably freaked out the first few times he saw Haru, given that him and Joseph look alike, if you don't count Haru's heterochromia
everyone lives together !! well, there's this one mansion that EVERYONE lives in, but they all have their separate homes for privacy (this is actually canon)
I'd like to think that Alex dyed her hair because she doesn't like thinking back on her birthday, aka the day she died. she's originally brunette, like shamora, but dyed her hair blue as to rid that image from her conscious. sometimes she forgets what she used to look like, until she somehow comes across an older picture, which sends her into a spiral
despite their coldness and stoicness, I would like to think that, if not anything else, Shamora and Dilon are passionate when it comes to their lovers !!
Dilon is the second oldest out of like five kids, affection was probably a frequent thing given how deprived of it they were when they were kids.. so if Alex were to fall victim to a panic attack, or if Haru just wasn't having a good day, Dilon would know, and go about dealing with it in his own ways. as I said earlier, he absolutely loves his spouses, even if he flat out refuses to acknowledge it most of the time. this only happens behind closed doors !! and I don't think they would tease him for it. this is rare, and he means well, so they'd accept it with lots of love !! plus they don't really feel like getting hit in the head with a pot like. ever.
and, unlike Dilon, Shamora initiates affection herself, even when she knows that Josh doesn't need it in that moment. her sister was clingy growing up, so she hardly minds Josh's clinginess. in fact, she'll start to get worried if he isn't holding onto her shirt somehow. there are times where she'll just sit with him and scratch behind his ears, or she'll grab his hand and tug him along with her if she knows she's going somewhere—knowing that Josh has to be trailing behind her, or he'll get lost and spiral if she isn't back within ten twenty minutes. she's quiet when affection is initiated from either of them, and mostly sticks to her actions doing all the talking for her. if Josh starts to get insecure about his place in the relationship, she'll know before hand and talk to him about it—one of the rare times she's actually verbal during any sort of affection.
I saw Devon say this in a hc channel; but Haru is definitely the mom friend !! skddkjdj my brain is running at 999mph thinking about them forgive me
I'm gonna stop here because 🧍🏽who tfs gonna read this besides Devon I am RAMBLING (I still have lots to say too. a lot more 💔)
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