#more specifically Israeli

[fluffyr0cky]

#the floof speaks #im actually sobbing #what the fuck is wrong with people #more specifically Israeli #im gonna go back to sobbing

[hymnsofheresy]

Do you pray for the hostages too?

Yes. I pray for the 110 or so israeli and immgrant hostages assumed to still be alive. And I also pray for the hundreds of Palestianian hostages arrested without charge in Israeli prisons assumed to be alive.

I pray for a ceasefire so that the Israeli hostages are released. I also pray for the end of Israeli apartheid government, so that Palestianians are liberated.

#i recommend reading some articles on the israeli hostages that were released #they each have individual perspectives but i notice online that people are refusing to hear many of their critiques of the israeli state #oftentimes dismissing the hostages of being ''irrationally traumatized'' or ''coerced'' into saying things #now i don't agree with all of them. especially since a lot are reformers. but i think it is important to hear their perspectives #also in general #the sheer number of palestians suffering compared to the israeli hostages is the reason why i think this ''whataboutism'' is ridiculous #you have 2 million people suffering and i am supposed to direct my primary attention to what like 100 of them specifically? #especially considering that there is one side that can end this whole thing: israel #hamas has already offered to release the hostages #in exchange for a ceasefire #and any attempt that the israeli military tried to ''liberate'' the hostages ended up in their deaths #what so far at least 3 israeli hostages were killed by israel (and there was probably more unconfirmed)

[cruelsister-moved2]

i honestly think one thing gentile non-palestinian leftists need to do urgently is eradicate the idea from your mind that zionism is somehow good for jewish people. we pay lip service to the fact that antizionism isn't antisemitism, that jewish people aren't inherently associated with the state of israel, even that israel doesn't keep jews safe; yet the subtle implication that jews ultimately benefit from zionism creeps into our arguments.

zionism has fostered fundamentalism and pushed jewish communities globally to the right, marginalised and outright erased disaporic cultures, and has contributed to the near-disappearance of entire judaic languages. the zionist project exacerbates antisemitism and then warps discussions of it, encouraging the same dual-loyalty myths and racialised categorisation that were popular in nazi germany. it courts antisemitic christian fundamentalists who fund it because of their apocalyptic beliefs which ultimately involve the annihilation or conversion of all jews, and provides a smokescreen for antisemites who want to push jews from their own countries. and it isolates, incriminates, silences, and arrests the many, many jews who speak out against it.

i don't say this to try and decentre palestinian suffering at this time, hence why this isn't directed at palestinians, but i think it's incredibly important for the integrity of our arguments to recognise unequivocally that zionism is not beneficial to jewish people either.

#I specify non palestinian because whilst I firmly believe the above #i also completely understand watching your family be murdered and thinking well at least #if I was jewish this specific thing wouldn't be happening to me right now #also israel is no more good for the average israeli than the USA for the average American #with all the varieties of racial privilege contained therein #like for the average person it's not really a privilege to live in a settler state lurching into fascism #but I feel like a lot of people are sort of like #you know the whole 'well you don't get to kill people to keep yourself safe' #and while that's TRUE it also feels like amiss to not address it when you aren't even making yourself safe either #anyway I hope it's clear that im saying this not as a whataboutism but pointing out a rhetorical pitfall here #because it's utterly pointless to fall into some argument of 'are jews or palestinians more deserving of safety' #zionism is the answer to neither. case closed. hope that helps

[leupagus]

Behind the scenes, American officials also believe there is limited time for Israel to try to accomplish its stated objective of taking out Hamas in its current operation before uproar over the humanitarian suffering and civilian casualties – and calls for a ceasefire – reaches a tipping point. In fact, there is recognition within the administration that that moment may arrive quickly: Some of the president’s close advisers believe that there are only weeks, not months, until rebuffing the pressure on the US government to publicly call for a ceasefire becomes untenable, sources told CNN.

A lot of this pressure — the majority, I would wager — that Biden and US national leaders are getting is the result of people calling their reps, attending protests, writing to their newspapers and generally making themselves heard on this issue. People make a difference, and it's always worth reaching out to your legislators and telling them what you think.

Senators' info is pretty easy to find, since you've got two for every state (even DC and other non-state people have someone they can call!) but sometimes it's a little tricky remembering who your representative is, especially now with the district lines having changed up. So check your address here and then call their office — I've found more luck getting hold of an actual person at their local offices rather than the DC one, fwiw.

#deleted my previous reblog of someone else's post #because someone in the replies said 'maybe hitler had the right idea' and I just...don't need that today #plus frankly if you say 'israel is committing genocide' and then allow comments like 'jews should've gotten genocided harder' #then you terrify me and I cannot trust you on... pretty much anything #but I think this article will show people that their voices matter! #please reblog if you feel like this is something you can support—I'd love for more people to call their politicians #YOU CAN DO THIS GO GIVE PEOPLE A CALL #politics! #eta: also note the headline of this article—specifically calling it 'carnage'—reflects a more accurate depiction of the violence #that the Israeli army is inflicting on Gaza #I think a LOT of newsmedia has done a bad job of using terminology in this and other issues #(remember when nobody would write that Trump was lying despite clear proof that he was in fact lying) #but this indicates that there's more desire in the media to describe things in clearer terms #which again is progress!

[nikkoliferous]

At least 20 soldiers were killed by friendly fire or accidents during the ground operation in the Gaza Strip, representing one-fifth of all fatalities, according to data released by the IDF on Tuesday.

With the intense fighting in the Strip, thousands of IDF soldiers are maneuvering in very densely populated areas. The IDF was aware that the danger was particularly significant during the night, as there was difficulty in distinguishing between friend and foe. The IDF invests heavily in addressing this challenge, including through technological markers found on almost every soldier in the field.

According to the IDF’s report, 13 soldiers were killed by friendly fire after being mistaken for enemy combatants, one from a stray bullet and another six in various accidents, such as being run over by armored vehicles.

At least one was killed by an Israeli airstrike when an attack helicopter fired on a building where soldiers were located last week.

The IDF doesn’t publish the full information on this incident due to various investigations still being examined in the IDF. In total, 105 soldiers have fallen in the ground operation so far. The army estimates that several hundred additional soldiers were wounded by friendly fire or operational accidents in enemy territory.

The new figure of 20 casualties who fell specifically from operational accidents or friendly fire is minimal and doesn’t refer to the first three weeks preceding the ground escalation, regarding the casualties on October 7, nor does it include other fronts. For example, an IDF officer was killed as a result of a friendly fire incident near Qalqilya at the beginning of the war, and other soldiers were killed as a result of a tank turnover near the Lebanon border.

Casualties fell as a result of friendly fire on October 7, but the IDF believes that beyond the operational investigations of the events, it would not be morally sound to investigate these incidents due to the immense and complex quantity of them that took place in the kibbutzim and southern Israeli communities due to the challenging situations the soldiers were in at the time.

The military said in a statement that efforts are constantly being made to prevent casualties from friendly fire and operational accidents by investigating these accidents and issuing lessons to thousands of soldiers in the Strip.

Translation: oops, we murdered too many of our own citizens and now we have to bury the evidence (literally) so the people don’t revolt

#thinking about the multiple released israeli hostages #who have since come out and said they were more afraid #of being killed by IDF 'friendly fire' than they were of being harmed by hamas #including one specifically saying she was afraid the IDF would kill her and tell people hamas was responsible #things that make you go hmm #free palestine #ceasefire now #current events #politics

[unopenablebox]

ugh i'm trying not to be a dick to my mom, who suffers enough. but i cannot believe she's decided to go in on "desecrating flags is a bad look for anyone" re: the student protests like a) that's obviously not the principle you're actually using to decide who and what to criticize here b) it's not desecrating a flag to take it down and replace it with another flag c) every time my parents say shit like this it makes me feel like maybe i alone retain memories of my family's beliefs and experiences during the bush administration, which is bad because i was like six at the time

#she said some other shit about it i don't want to air publicly but i am in fact mad at her #for suddenly adopting a strong stance in defense of universities flying the fucking american flag of all things. #come on. come the fuck on. if you just say the real thing you actually believe we will get in FEWER fights because i will expect less #return on challenging it. and it also actually bundles in *fewer* insane conservative beliefs if you just say out loud that #your family is israeli and you used to live in israel and you hate hamas and feel strongly that most or all broadly anti-state-of-israel #sentiment is also effectively antisemitic and/or that only jews can hate netanyahu's policies without also endorsing antisemitism #and that no one publicly cares about 10/7 enough and the students are being disrespectful of it. #i don't like agree with any of it. but it's openly about the specific thing and not endorsement of a random selection of reactionary shit #in order to make it sound more broadly principled. #euch.

[slyandthefamilybook]

I hate this post so much

It is CATEGORICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for people of color to be racist towards white people in the same way white people are racist to people of color. Yes, people of color can say mean things to or about white people, but that's not the kind of racism we're dealing with. Racism as leftists understand it is a system of oppression, a top-down hierarchy. No amount of calling white people "cracker" is going to reverse that hierarchy. Therefore, accusations of "reverse racism" that pit "calling me white boy" against "Jim Crow" are always frivolous

In a similar vein, it is CATEGORICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for women to oppress men in the same way men have oppressed women for tens of thousands of years. Therefore, accusations of "man hating" that pit "patriarchy sucks" against "women should be seen and not heard" are always frivolous

it is EMINENTLY POSSIBLE to be antisemitic in your Pro-Palestine activism. We see it all the time. And yes, right-wing Zionists and racist Israelis will often accuse people of being antisemitic for supporting Palestine, even when they're not

But that's not what this tweet says. It only identifies a vague "oppressor", which is, by their definition, "someone who is telling you you're being antisemitic". By comparing accusations of antisemitism to accusations of reverse racism or man-hating, this tweet is priming people to categorically dismiss those accusations as unserious and facetious. When Jews tell you you're being antisemitic, we're not "claiming victimhood". Antisemitism as an idea is not "manipulating the language of the oppressed". It is the language of the oppressed (well not entirely because the word itself was invented by a Jew-hater but you know what i mean)

I assume the oppressor they're talking about, the one who "justifies their violence as self-defense" are Israelis. But the people telling feminists that they're man-haters are men. The people accusing people of. color of reverse racism are white people. Unless you live in Israel or Gaza, Israel is not committing violence against you. They're not oppressing you, at least not directly. The people who are telling you your activism is antisemitic are largely, in my experience at least, just regular Jews. Some of us are right-wing, some of us are left-wing. You should take the words of both equally seriously, just like how you would take the word of a Republican woman who said she was assaulted, or take the word of a Black Trump supporter who said they were attacked with racial slurs, or take the word of a conservative trans woman who said she was misgendered.

White people who accuse you of reverse racism are trying to uphold a system of racial dominance and segregation. Jews who accuse you of antisemitism are...what? Trying to uphold a system of Jewish supremacy?

Jews are not your oppressors. We're trying to help you. But we can't do that if you refuse to listen.

#atlas entry #like. to be clear I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this post if they were just more specific #if they just said “right wing Israelis will accuse Palestinians of being antisemitic so they can continue to oppress them” #that's an idea I can get behind !! #but saying “people accusing your Pro-Palestine activism of antisemitism are racist oppressors” is just so open to misinterpretation #and. if you'll allow me. it's often that way by design #I don't know who this person is but if they've seen what I've seen then they know people aren't wearing their critical thinking hats lately #I'm just saying you have to try to be as careful as possible when talking about these tjibgs #things

[autistic-katara]

u ever see a mildly iffy post and look at the comments and just think “wow, everyone here is so fucking unpleasant in their own special way”

#comments on a post abt i/p stuff nd no one can grasp the concept of it not being 1000% black and white #it’s possible for both groups to be indigenous to palestine and it’s possible for both groups to not be able to “return to where they came #from” #as yk from what i know it’s pretty impossible to leave gaza at all and also most israelis r refugees from really bad antisemitism or r #descended from them #and also its possible to talk abt hamas and antisemitism w/o denying the genocide going on and vice versa #and its really fucking easy to not dehumanise regular israelis/jews and palestinians/arabs #like it’s so very easy to not do that #innocent palestinians don’t deserve to die bcz of the actions of hamas #innocent israelis don’t deserve to die bcz of the actions of the idf #and neither deserve to be displaced (probably into unsafe conditions) bcz u don’t think they’re indigenous enough #so many of u act like either palestine is just a country of antisemitic terrorists or israel’s full of fascist soulless militants #both r incredibly xenophobic (and racist or antisemitic to be more specific abt it) #idk i’m just so tired of ur ability to not be normal abt this while there r people dying #i would say “it’s online discourse ppl r just like that” except this is very much bleeding into real life and existed before the internet #long before the internet #so it does very much affect real life so idk just be better please #sorry tangent in the tags #ryan shut the fuck up #antisemitism #racism

[lverman]

friendly reminder that judaism is a religion and not a race, and that palestinean jews exist, non jewish israelis exist, jewish israelis who don’t want gaza to be carpet bombed exist, and that by conflating Jews as a race you are literally perpetuating nazi ideology. Conflating All Jews with Settler Israelis is bad. Conflating All Jews with the Knesset is bad. Stop it. You are again, calling for an eradication if you say “kill all jews” while being pro palestine.

#palestine #PLEASE be more specific when talking about who you’re against #I’ve seen way too many posts call for the “death of jews” as if all jewish people are israeli #Talk about netanyahu or the idf or the knesset or the israeli right wing #same as you would the american right wing

[secretagentsagainstwhatever]

i’m genuinely so miffed about this. The pro Israeli propaganda Disney’s about the push with the introduction of Sabra is such bullshit and then you add the fact they’re doing this in the first Captain America movie with a black cap, they couldn’t introduce her during any of the Chris Evans ca movies ?? Sam Wilson deserves better than this. Anthony Mackie deserves better than this. AND most importantly THE PALESTINIAN people marvel fans or not deserve better.



#free palestine #i know disney are dicks #but fuck me #captain america #and are they serious??? #new world order #????? #yeah VERY discreet #blm #sam wilson deserves better #sam wilson is captain america #marvel #mcu #captain america new world order #an israeli cop yeah what a great hero for kids 🙄 #listen i don’t believe in cancel culture #it’s just not real #but i do believe in evil corporations #more specifically #i believe in burning them to the ground #that is all #sabra mcu

[cvctuslesbian]

my mom tried to call me an idiot today because i said that i think the united states being built on the blood and subjugation of other people is bad

#🫠 like #why would i have pride in this country? why would i celebrate the slaughtering of millions of innocent people? #all for my comfort? my ease of life should not be at the expense of millions of other peoples lives and that’s not insane to say actually #but she’s the empath or whatever 🫡 #she tells me she doesn’t listen to even shit like cnn because it makes her feel bad but when i talk to her about she acts like i don’t know #what i’m talking about! bitch!!!! #as if i don’t spend hours every day reading about the new ways israelis have decided to butcher palestinians! what the fuck! #‘i don’t think the history is important we should focus on the right now’ #well even if that were true (and it sure as fuck isn’t) is the violence happening not horrifying? does it not make you sick to see millions #of children begging for westerners (specifically americans!!) to see them as human beings worthy of life? #why is your comfort more important than their lives? #but either way it isn’t even true bc the events going on in palestine today are nothing new #they all have roots in history dating back to the start of the british empire! even before then! #colonialism isn’t an ancient thing! #we can’t talk about telling the iof to stop bombing people without knowing that it’s in their best interest to keep bombing people! #but of course of course i forgot about the american liberals deepest desire: comfort against all odds

[gothmods]

Saw a post calling to boycott mga because their ceo donates to israel and like, the ceo of mattel is also israeli and has been involved with israel's olympic/sporting orgs so i wouldnt be betting on them either :/

#i dont think its possible to effectively boycott every company with a higher-up or investor who also finances israeli industries..... #this isnt me saying go buy mga products im just trying to point out that the nature of business and capital makes these things impossible to #fully avoid but also more specifically wrt doll stuff i often see people criticising mga for things that also apply to mattel and vice versa

[i-am-aprl]

[ID: A video clip showing a Black person in a green coat interviewing an elderly white person holding up a flag, with more protesters in the background displaying Palestinian flags.

The interviewer asks, "Why is it important for you to be here today?"

The protester responds, "Well, uh, I'm Jewish, I'm Israeli, my parents were the only survivors of their families from the Holocaust. They both survived Auschwitz. I'm not going to support genocide am I?

"I'm here with the Palestinians, and we are here with Palestine, because we don't believe that what the British government is doing is correct. The British government is supporting this genocide! It's arming Israel, it's financing Israel.

"BBC and the other media here is supporting genocide. This is illegal. This is immoral. We don't agree with it, we will never agree with it, and as Jews -- and myself as Israeli -- I am totally against it, and we will continue to be against it.

There are now more than 60 such events in the whole of Britain, uh, people don't want to support this. They are against this government on so many other issues, but especially on this one."

Another elderly white protester next to the first joins in, leaning forward to add:

"And, also, this didn't start on October the 7th. In 1948, Palestinian villages, hundreds of them --"

Another elderly protester interjects specifically, "500 of them".

The second protestor nods and continues, "were demolished, thousands of Palestinians, innocent men, women, and children were slaughtered, and seven-hundred and fifty thousand Palestinian refugees were created. That's when it started, and it hasn't stopped since!"

End ID.]

#palestine #gaza #israel #free palestine #i stand with palestine #jerusalem #فلسطين #anti zionisim #zionistterror #israel is a terrorist state #free gaza #israeli war crimes #israel is an apartheid state #israel is committing genocide

[heritageposts]

🇵🇸 From BDS - What to Boycott:

Fruits, vegetables and wines from Israel are often wrongly labelled as “Produce in Israel” when they come from stolen Palestinian land. Boycott all produce from Israel in your supermarket and demand they are removed from shelves.

thank you @leandra-winchester for making the graphic above! if any of you are active on other social platforms, you have her permission to use the image however you want (no credit required)

keep in mind, though, that this isn't a complete list: you should still check the origin labels on other types of fruit and veggies, and see if any local orgs have produced a more complete breakdown of israeli produce that's specific to your country

#palestine #israeli #gaza #boycott israel #bds #boycott divest sanction #trying to bring some more awareness to the fruit/veggies part of BDS #since it's the boycott target we're most likely to interact with in our day-to-day lives

[jewishvitya]

A pro-Palestine Jew on tiktok asked those of us who were raised pro-Israel, what got us to change our minds on Palestine. I made a video to answer (with my voice, not my face), and a few people watched it and found some value in it. I'm putting this here too. I communicate through text better than voice.

So I feel repetitive for saying this at this point, but I grew up in the West Bank settlements. I wrote this post to give an example of the extent to which Palestinians are dehumanized there.

Where I live now, I meet Palestinians in day to day life. Israeli Arab citizens living their lives. In the West Bank, it was nothing like that. Over there, I only saw them through the electric fence, and the hostility between us and Palestinians was tangible.

When you're a child being brought into the situation, you don't experience the context, you don't experience the history, you don't know why they're hostile to you. You just feel "these people hate me, they don't want me to exist." And that bubble was my reality. So when I was taught in school that everything we did was in self defense, that our military is special and uniquely ethical because it's the only defensive military in the world - that made sense to me. It slotted neatly into the reality I knew.

One of the first things to burst the bubble for me was when I spoke to an old Israeli man and he was talking about his trauma from battle. I don't remember what he said, but it hit me wrong. It conflicted with the history as I understood it. So I was a bit desperate to make it make sense again, and I said, "But everything we did was in self defense, right?"

He kinda looked at me, couldn't understand at all why I was upset, and he went, "We destroyed whole villages. Of course we did. It was war, that's what you do."

And that casual "of course" stuck with me. I had to look into it more.

I couldn't look at more accurate history, and not at accounts by Palestinians, I was too primed against these sources to trust them. The community I grew up in had an anti-intellectual element to it where scholars weren't trusted about things like this.

So what really solidified this for me, was seeing Palestinian culture.

Because part of the story that Israel tells us to justify everything, is that Palestinians are not a distinct group of people, they're just Arabs. They belong to the nations around us. They insist on being here because they want to deny us a homeland. The Palestinian identity exists to hurt us. This, because the idea of displacing them and taking over their lands doesn't sound like stealing, if this was never theirs and they're only pretending because they want to deprive us.

But then foods, dances, clothing, embroidery, the Palestinian dialect. These things are history. They don't pop into existence just because you hate Jews and they're trying to move here. How gorgeous is the Palestinian thobe? How stunning is tatreez in general? And when I saw specific patterns belonging to different regions of Palestine?

All of these painted for me a rich shared life of a group of people, and countered the narrative that the Palestininian identity was fabricated to hurt us. It taught me that, whatever we call them, whatever they call themselves, they have a history in this land, they have a right to it, they have a connection to it that we can't override with our own.

I started having conversations with leftist friends. Confronting the fact that the borders of the occupied territories are arbitrary and every Israeli city was taken from them. In one of those conversations, I was encouraged to rethink how I imagine peace.

This also goes back to schooling. Because they drilled into us, we're the ones who want peace, they're the ones who keep fighting, they're just so dedicated to death and killing and they won't leave us alone.

In high school, we had a stadium event with a speaker who was telling us about a person who defected from Hamas, converted to Christianity and became a Shin Bet agent. Pretty sure you can read this in the book "Son of Hamas." A lot of my friends read the book, I didn't read it, I only know what I was told in that lecture. I guess they couldn't risk us missing out on the indoctrination if we chose not to read it.

One of the things they told us was how he thought, we've been fighting with them for so long, Israelis must have a culture around the glorification of violence. And he looked for that in music. He looked for songs about war. And for a while he just couldn't find any, but when he did, he translated it more fully, and he found out the song was about an end to wars. And this, according to the story as I was told it, was one of the things that convinced him. If you know know the current trending Israeli "war anthem," you know this flimsy reasoning doesn't work.

Back then, my friend encouraged me to think more critically about how we as Israelis envision peace, as the absence of resistance. And how self-centered it is. They can be suffering under our occupation, but as long as it doesn't reach us, that's called peace. So of course we want it and they don't.

Unless we're willing to work to change the situation entirely, our calls for peace are just "please stop fighting back against the harm we cause you."

In this video, Shlomo Yitzchak shares how he changed his mind. His story is much more interesting than mine, and he's much more eloquent telling it. He mentions how he was taught to fear Palestinians. An automatic thought, "If I go with you, you'll kill me." I was taught this too. I was taught that, if I'm in a taxi, I should be looking at the driver's name. And if that name is Arab, I should watch the road and the route he's taking, to be prepared in case he wants to take me somewhere to kill me. Just a random person trying to work. For years it stayed a habit, I'd automatically look at the driver's name. Even after knowing that I want to align myself with liberation, justice, and equality. It was a process of unlearning.

On October, not long after the current escalation of violence, I had to take a taxi again. A Jewish driver stopped and told me he'll take me, "so an Arab doesn't get you." Israeli Jews are so comfortable saying things like this to each other. My neighbors discussed a Palestinian employee, with one saying "We should tell him not to come anymore, that we want to hire a Jew." The second answered, "No, he'll say it's discrimination," like it would be so ridiculous of him. And the first just shrugged, "So we don't have to tell him why." They didn't go through with it, but they were so casual about this conversation.

In the Torah, we're told to treat those who are foreign to us well, because we know what it's like to be the foreigner. Fighting back against oppression is the natural human thing to do. We know it because we lived it. And as soon as I looked at things from this angle, it wasn't really a choice of what to support.

#riki babbles #I had this in my drafts for ages and I was like 'not the time' but a friend encouraged me to share so here it is #palestine

[scarletanpan]

I haven't started extensive research on Google bc I know if I do I'll get stuck for a while but after seeing the protesters get fired and the CEO's little message I'm just so done with everything they're involved with. I have years of writing and files in my drives so I downloaded all of it and deleted it permanently. Figured out how to make firefox automatically open alternate web searches, so I can use Presearch for everything which seems decent so far. Google also allows you to download the personal data they have saved and request to delete so I did and hopefully it's 'actually' deleted. They have 22 GB worth of stuff on me somehow so I'm gonna go through it to see why

#text #google swears up and down their tech isnt used for weapons or anything yet they service the israeli military like. really #even just providing cloud computing you are giving them the resources to more efficiently commit genocide #and in general i dont trust their transparency w data usage i read the whole privacy policy and its not specific enough #tbf all policies are written that way but who knows what the fuck theyre doing. half the stuff we all use involves google #like the one issue is youtube is owned by google. so i cant escape that but i can minimize usage. might get me to do other things #in general im trying to rely less on services where i give them my data. mines not important but im tired of this shit #im tired of every action i take being transformed into algorithmic information so they can sell it and fill every site w specialized ads #like fuck you. fuck everybody. what happened to making technology to make ppls lives easier. why are we inventing ways to exploit ppl