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becauseplot · 6 months

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completely random thought but thinkin about like. how interesting it is that what happened to qcellbit in the war and what he was forced to do to survive traumatized him and still clearly upsets him. like we all know that. but given his interactions with bbh he still feels a sense of nostalgia, referring to them as the "good times" and reminiscing n whatnot. and it could all be a result of the headspace he's in rn, perhaps glorifying his childhood as a means of reinforcing his "i have always been this way" mentality to help justify his violence against the fed workers and/or clinging to the "good" moments he had growing up in an awful environment because that peaceful childhood was stolen from him.

anyway all this is to say. what if even back then, in order to cope, cellbit thought about the wars as a game: hunting alongside bbh, strategizing, taking people out, collecting "loot," upgrading their gear. and when they're the last ones standing, they win! just,, interpreting the "games" part of "hunger games" as a young, scared little cellbit subconsciously putting distance between himself and the horrors he experienced/committed on the daily and trying to motivate himself to keep going by making it a "fun game to play." and how that might affect how he thinks of it now. like on one hand he's probably aware that it was a seriously messed up situation to be dropped into as a kid, on the other hand, he can't deny that he was having fun.

also i do believe that even outside this "it's all just a game" mentality, cellbit and bbh had some pleasant moments that cellbit is still clinging to (and perhaps blowing out of proportion; nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses and all that). cellbit goofing around while setting up camp for the night. bbh looting a cool jacket (or perhaps a sick pair of goggles?) off a body and giving them to a delighted cellbit. cellbit trying to teach bbh some portuguese, bbh teaching cellbit new words in english. cellbit, bored, hanging upside down from a tree by his legs while waiting for bbh to finish looking at the map and call their next move. a flawless double takedown where neither of them broke a sweat and bbh greatly praised cellbit's skills and cellbit smiled for the rest of the day. (are you proud of me? are you proud of me?) a tree branch breaking and falling directly in front of cellbit and cellbit screeching and bbh laughing harder than cellbit has ever heard him laugh before, so much so that he forgets his embarrassment and starts laughing too.

just,,, man. what exactly is cellbit referring to when he brings up "the good times" with bbh. it's so fun to think about.

#wowow this got long fhdskj. i have so many scattered thoughts abt this you have no idea. (or like. i guess you do now lol)#dont mind me im just rambling #character analysis #qsmp cellbit #hgduo #q!cellbit #hg duo #tbh might delete this later we'll see how i feel abt it #ive just been thinkin abt hgduo a lot bc im workin on a fic that i miiiight end up posting? we'll see.

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jihnari · 1 year

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zhongchi - the ship that’s ruining my life

disclaimers:

ship what u want. i cannot stop you. i do not care. be free.

this post is an OPINION and you DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE. if reading about why i dislike zhongchi is going to upset you, maybe give this a pass

i do not dislike childe OR zhongli. i just think their ship is silly.

if you are a zhongchi shipper and you choose to read this anyway, this is not written as a personal attack. i said "zhongchi 😒" one too many times and a non-genshin friend said "why do you hate that ship so much" and then i wrote a manifesto

ive never been involved in real fandom drama and idk how it goes but i would like to remain ignorant and free, pls do not attack me over this i am small and nervous and do not mean any harm

part 0: the ship

"who are they and why does this ship exist?" you might ask, if you've never played genshin. on the surface, this is a simple question with a simple answer. the two characters for this ship are in the same place at the same time and their stories overlap heavily. childe is the big bad of zhongli's story arc. (not that zhongli fights him; you, the player character, fights childe.) so they potentially have enemies to lovers, and they are actually friends before some truths come to light and it's revealed they're on "different sides". childe also pays for things for both you (the player character) and zhongli, which people read as caring. [1]

childe/zhongli is the most popular genshin ship on ao3. there are currently 132,000 works on ao3 for genshin impact and 12,735 of those have the ship tag childe/zhongli. that's only 10% of the all existing works, but the second largest ship tag has only 6,600 works, which is half as many.

relevant as an influencing factor is another popular ship early on in genshin's inception. that other ship was the first two hot male characters to have tension and an overlapping storyline, but they turn out to be "related" and a large part of the fandom collectively dropped them like a hot potato. but these fans were already in the fandom, already playing genshin, and they needed someone to ship. so they collectively jumped over to the SECOND set of two hot male characters with perceived tension and an overlapping storyline, i.e. zhongli and childe. the story containing zhongli and childe is 1) permanent canon content and 2) presented relatively early to the player, so zhongchi as a ship is more accessible than other popular ships that don't show up for 50+ hours [2] of gameplay.

furthermore, neither childe or zhongli have many meaningful interactions with other characters, and both characters were very popular upon launch. their initial popularity caused an epidemic, and a subsequent over-saturation of the ship on ao3. [3]

part 1: the characters

zhongli is a retired ex-god who faked his own death so he could have a break and go play at being human in the most mundane way possible. he's spiritually and emotionally an old man. he watches operas and drinks tea, has very expensive taste but no money, and works the front desk at a funeral parlor. he's thousands of years old and not entirely human (more on that later). [4]

childe is in his 20s and an affable general in the evil army. at 14 childe fell through a hole into genshin hell and lived there for a few months and emerged Changed. he can also turn into a demon now, just as a fun side note. upon getting him back, his parents found him to be a very scary menace and they quickly enrolled him in the military. he is the youngest ever person to be made general in the evil army, but this is less due to him being driven by ambition and more being a violent gremlin who couldn't be controlled and who beat up everyone in his path.

in his spare time, childe gets into unwinnable fights and pushes himself to the limit just so he can feel something. he's utilitarian, having grown up poor, and when you ask about his least favorite food he tells you that being picky about food is a bad thing and you should cut that out. he "has money" but it's not his money, it's his government's money. the budget for his evil task is very, very high, and he uses it for mission things though he tends to be pretty loose about what that includes. his mission budget shouldn't matter, but will unfortunately come up later.

childe is diametrically opposed to zhongli and zhongli's city; or he WOULD be but childe is too friendly and zhongli secretly has a deal with childe's boss, paying them to do the evil thing so he can retire in peace. this is a slight betrayal to childe but when it comes to light he isnt upset at zhongli, he's upset at his coworker for being the literal worst. childe is still seen around fantasy china after he tries to destroy it with a meteor[5], and only the townspeople seem to have any hard feelings. zhongli and childe are not canonically depicted as having any hard feelings.

part 2: "making it work"

past the superficial reasons listed in part 0, zhongchi makes no sense to me as a pairing. zhongli is a boring old man and childe barely seems to consider people anything more than NPCs unless they end up having fighting prowess, in which case he tries to fight them and then (if they don't die) considers them friends.

childe is dynamic, always striving to be better, stronger, faster[6]; childe is an adrenaline addict. zhongli is static and intends to stay that way.

the characters have undergone some personality changes to make them fit together better.

zhongli is part dragon(?) so people give him an obsession for pretty things and a massive possessive streak. since he's "broke", childe becomes a sugar daddy type in many works. zhongli is also almost exclusively on top in sexual situations, because duh, old, powerful dragon. [7]

childe couldn't possibly be in a position of power when he's with a older, more powerful male, so he becomes very submissive and swoon-y and teenage girl. the betrayal hurt him *ever* so deeply and he may never emotionally recover. he canonically has a family whom he loves, so people come down on that hard and say he's a real family man and he wants to have a family of his own and obviously he wants to settle down with zhongli and have zhongli's babies.

part 3: losing sight of canon

the further this ship goes, the further we stray from god. [8]

childe is now super rich and loves paying for other people's things, especially zhongli's (forgetting that the money he has was in fact part of his mission budget). the tag "battlesexual childe" is a sortable tag on ao3, but the zhongchi part of genshin has all but forgotten childe likes to fight. zhongli is now possessive to a borderline abusive degree, and childe likes being tied down (metaphorically) to his dragon husband (did i mention they're frequently and casually married? this is the erasermic[9] of genshin).

another side effect of being auto-married by the fandom is that it pushes the domesticity angle of zhongchi. you know, zhongli, an ex GOD OF WAR who COMMITTED GENOCIDE and a childe, a dude so obsessed with fighting that his own family couldnt handle him and shipped him off to the military at 14. them. domestic. what drugs are you on [10]

part 4: dragons

hey. why did so many people have to latch onto the dragon thing? on a personal note, i do not understand the appeal but have no room to judge. on a cultural note, zhongchi is DOING IT WRONG.

in canon, zhongli's "dragon form" is based off of chinese dragons[11]. which makes sense, since the place he's from, liyue, is modeled after china. genshin impact is created by mihoyo, a chinese company.

what im saying is a chinese company writing a chinese game with a character from fantasy china would NOT make this character a western dragon.

western dragons breathe fire, are very aggressive, collect hoards of gold, and are often depicted as greedy and possessive. eastern dragons not only look different, they're associated with water (rain) rather than fire, they're cultural symbols of prosperity and good luck, and they FOSTER HARMONY. i have exclusively seen zhongli's "dragon personality traits" modeled after western dragons, not eastern ones. like. yeah. i get it. the dragons the english half of the fandom is familiar with are western dragons. maybe they don't even know how eastern, and specifically chinese dragons, are different. but that doesnt make them any less INCORRECT.

and hey! seeing dragon eggpreg content makes me want to die[12]. there’s so much. i wish there was less much. this also further encourages the feminization of childe which is :\ must we keep returning the gender norms to fictional romantic relationships

part 5: the ripple effect

the zhongchi version of childe has escaped containment[13]. im unhappy about it. i always know it when i see it because childe is an insatiable uwu bottom who would rather have sex than have a street fight.

because this ship is so hellaciously popular, other childe ships are relatively rare[14]. anywhere you go, if someone is a fan of zhongli or childe, they probably also ship it. i never want to see another piece of zhongchi fanart again and yet, i soldier on. this is my curse. this is my burden. for childe, i must persevere.

in conclusion,

i dont have a conclusion actually i just hate zhongchi, thanks for coming to my ted talk

[1] those people are incorrect.

[2] i didnt look up this number even a little bit, but i feel in my heart that it is accurate.

[3] "only 10%? and you're calling it an epidemic?" yes. yes i am. "don't you think thats a little harsh?" you haven't seen what ive seen. you haven't suffered what ive suffered.

[4] sorry i know the childe section is like four times as long but i just don’t about zhongli like i do childe.

[5] yes i know it wasnt a meteor but this was written to be read fandom blind and ff7 altered my brain chemistry.

[6] Daft Punk, "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger", 2001

[7] there are, of course, bottom!zhongli works. the name for this ship is "chili" (dont get me started on the top/bottom dynamic wars within the same pairing, we'll be here all day and i will scream until i pass out). it's more difficult to use ao3 numbers to prove my point here, as i find the tagging of top/bottom dynamics on ao3 to be inconsistent. instead, i will use statistics on zerochan.net. at the time of writing, zerochan has 1,765 images tagged with "zhongchi" and 228 images tagged with "chili". (so, ~90% of the childe/zhongli ship on zerochan is marked as zhongchi, i.e. top!zhongli and bottom!childe.) should i be using only a single data point to definitively say that zhongchi is exponentially more popular than chili? no, i should not; that's what we call bad science. but it illustrates the skew in the dynamics and the clear fandom preference, and this is a rant post not a scientific study.

[8] to some degree, inaccurate fanonizations involving popular characters in a large fandom is inevitable. i understand this. i do not accept this.

[9] erasermic (aizawa shouta/yamada hizashi) is a popular fandom auto-married ship from boku no hero academia. im not a fan of erasermic either but at least it's existence hasn't left a permanent stain on the characterizations of either character.

[10] ok so maybe zhongli could do the domesticity thing given that he's working that mundane human angle, though it would take some effort and learning and guidance. but childe? a house husband? lol. lmao.

[11] to be specific, he's half-dragon half-qilin but everyone seems to forget the qilin part. this isn't unreasonable, given that my experience is with the english speaking part of the genshin fandom, and qilin isnt really a thing that shows up in english media. one time i was watching a cdrama with a friend and the subtitles said "he has a dragon tattoo!" and she started YELLING and we had to pause the show because it wasnt a gd dragon it was a QILIN and they are VERY DIFFERENT THINGs, and then i got a whole rant about how even a unicorn would be a closer translation than dragon and i had to look up qilin's on wiki to follow along with the rant. and thats how i know what a qilin is.

[12] i have a visceral cringe reaction to dragons now, thanks zhongchi. from my favorite beanie baby being scorch to this, how far i have fallen

[13] im sure the same is true for this fanon version of zhongli but i havent bothered to verify.

[14] @ chilumi shippers: ur cool, i like u, i also like ur art it's cute <3 but your fanfiction is not for me u_u

#writing #fandom analysis #as written by a childe main #genshin impact #mentions of sex #rant #childe #tartaglia #zhongli #not zhongchi friendly but not zhongli unfriendly #zhongli is fine #chilumi shippers i see u and you're doing great keep it up i just dont read m/f #woke up today and chose violence #i really did think about letting this stay in discord dms forever but i worked too hard on this argument to let it die in obscurity #might delete later we'll see if the fandom gets vicious #hopefully they will not! but i am kind of inviting bad karma by posting this #i think the flanderization of fictional characters within fandom using traits they NEVER POSSESSED is a really fascinating thing #from a sociological perspective #from a fandom perspective pls stop ur hurting me #fandom telephone

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jadegr8 · 2 months

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german//english

Because that's our biggest concern at the moment...

#german reddit is full of posts like this #might as well bring it over to tumblr #we'll see how that goes #might delete later #i dunno yet #german stuff #destiel news #stuff

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graff-aganda · 8 months

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the council will now decide your fate

#back to chipping away at the other good day redraw. 😓#these guys are baaarely gonna be visible all the way at the back. whenever i get around to posting ill probably post the full and finished #version of these as a bonus post #this redraw is a bit daunting and im not sure how im going to handle the effect of like. each consecutive screen...#without it all looking really really busy so. we'll see. might play around with stuff #grafftalk #delete later #bedtime for now :') back to this sometime tomorrow arvo

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dragons-and-magic · 27 days

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So, uh... TTTE community? Do you like dragons?

#ttte #thomas and friends #thomas the tank engine #I might delete this later. But I have a little TTTE Dragon AU I've been working on for years and I haven't found a good place to post it.#Maybe here?#Don't expect too much from it though. I have a ton of other blogs and projects that need attention. Lol.😅#I'll probably post a few things for it every now and then.#We'll see.#ttte thomas #thomas ttte #My art

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kingprinceleo · 9 months

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hgmm ok, Big Maybe yall send me your AU designs (Ask Box Only) and i might doodle them for warmups for the next while (Not 100% Guaranteed) No OCs, just AU designs of the sonic cast

#>#keep in mind i may just post this and not do it at all #<#my brain is made of rocks #we'll see how this goes #might delete later

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blueberrysan · 2 months

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hello everyone 💙💙

just letting everyone know i am still here i promise!! and that i set up a queue to (hopefully) help me get more posts out

#feel free to tag me in things if you want me to see it #it's open to everyone and to most bands (though non ateez bands will be reblogged on my main)#i'm also forgoing tags atm so i can just reblog posts!!#i might try to go back and tag when i have time but we'll see #personal #delete later?#edit: off spring break now no gifs i sorry 😭😭

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risingsunresistance · 5 months

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oh one more thing about the recent Issues i mentioned this morning and i'll not mention it anymore. if you're mad at him for demonizing disorders by pointing out she has bpd, you have absolutely no right to be calling him a narcissist. narcissist is not a synonym for abuser, you are just as wrong here

#scrolling around and keep seeing it HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT DEMONIZING BEHAVIOR AND THEN TURN AROUND AND DEMONIZE EVERYONE WITH NPD #THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK YOU PERFORMATIVE PIECE OF SHIT #anyways im gonna go delete a majority of his tag on here now before i forget to do it later (going to ark's)#might keep up a handful of them if they're in like. group posts #idk we'll see #not that this matters to anyone else really i'm probably the only one who regularly goes through my own tags #chat

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thetaekookcloset · 2 years

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Do you think TK will still do FS on their Busan Concert given how everyone knows now that he is dating a girl.

Oh my god lol. Normally I would just delete this, but I have been thinking about giving an update on my thoughts about this whole thing, so here we go, I guess.

To answer your actual question: yes. Jungkook and Taehyung have the relationship that they have regardless of what I think about it. Right now I think it's likely that they're in a romantic relationship, because that's how I interpret their interactions, but if my interpretation is wrong, that doesn't change those interactions. I can't imagine that people knowing that one or both of them are actually dating women would affect them in that way. I would assume they would continue to act as they've always done, both on and offstage.

To talk more generally about this situation and your evident assumption that we all know Taehyung is dating a woman now: I personally remain unconvinced.

Frankly I think that under normal circumstances, we wouldn't even be giving this "leak" account the time of day. It's a brand new account with no clarity around the source of the pictures, and lots of holes in the story. The only reason people are giving it any credibility is the lack of original photos, but that's not something we necessarily need to be able to see, depending on the way they're edited.

I didn't know as much about this a few days ago, but you can essentially use programs that compile images to create a new image, as long as you have enough material to draw on. Obviously with celebrities, there are so many photos to use to make those composite images from. You can even do it with video. I saw one yesterday where someone had replaced Julia Roberts's face in Pretty Woman with Willem Dafoe, it was wild. If someone can do that, someone could easily put blurry versions of Taehyung and Jennie's faces onto images of other people.

Basically, people can make something out of nothing, which means that the one clinch pin of this whole issue is essentially moot. The silence from the companies also makes more sense, as time goes on, if the photos are fake or of entirely different people.

And I just need to be petty for a moment because beyond the fact that the man in the third photo doesn't look much like Taehyung and you can't even see the girl's face well enough to know if she looks like Jennie, the people in that photo do not look like millionaires. No offense to the girl in the photo, whoever she is, but that is not the hair of a highly famous and successful popstar with millions of dollars at her disposal. And I'm sorry but the absolute audacity of claiming that Kim Taehyung, who wears designer lounge wear, would wear a Winnie the Pooh t-shirt that says "Pooh" on the sleeve and looks like it cost about $10 at Walmart -- I just can't buy it, I'm sorry.

Add to all of that the fact that the second photo has so many mistakes that are clearly visible, and I'm left thinking that this is mostly still developing out of a mix of wishful thinking and love of the drama.

If Taehyung and Jennie did happen to be dating, I don't think these images prove it in any regard, and to bring it full circle: whether they are or not, it doesn't change the relationship that Jungkook and Taehyung have anyway. If we ever see real proof of a romantic relationship between either of them with someone else, the only thing it will do is change the way I interpret their interactions.

#i have serious reservations about posting this lol #but idk i'm feeling petty so we'll see how it goes #might delete later #taekook #ask

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