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riahlynn101 · 2 months

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First off I’m sorry if none of this makes sense, I somehow misunderstood something in the manga/anime, or if someone else has already touched on this.

Secondly, MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THE MANGA!!! (Up to the current chapter 417!)

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I have one very important question:

If Izuku is quirkless now, given that all eight of the vestiges have been “transferred”, then how is he still in the vestige realm?

There are only three possible reasons for this:

Izuku has made OFA his quirk. Maybe by using it in such a unique way, some part of OFA will always remain within Izuku.

My personal gripes with this theory:

Kind of boring, as we’ve already seen it with All Might.

It ignores the fact that it was Izuku that unlocked all eight(?) quirks.

Izuku, unlike All Might, hasn’t been reduced to a wispy state like vestige!Might.

I don’t have definitive proof for this, as OFA is mostly likely not gone-gone. But there’s no one left in OFA, at least on Izuku’s side. None of the predecessors. Not even Yoichi as an anchor quirk.

Since AFO-OFA are “resonating” , Izuku (and Tomura) are immune to regular vestige/quirk rules. For example, being reduced to a being like vestige!Might.

My personal gripes with this theory:

All the same ones as above.

Although, this is a little less boring.

If Hori uses this reasoning to delve more into Tomura and Izuku’s connection (OFA-AFO connection), then I wouldn’t hate it.

It still ignores Izuku’s inherent connection to OFA (unlocking all the quirks, and seeing vestiges without any medical procedures like Tomura).

My favorite theory that’s come out of the DFO fandom: Izuku has had a quirk all along!

This one makes the most sense.

I won’t go into all the specifics, but if you’re interested Marunalu has gone over the theory several times on their Tumblr.

It answers everything.

Why Izuku was able to unlock the quirks.

Why Izuku could see the vestiges.

Why Izuku is still in Tomura’s vestige realm despite being “quirkless” now.

And why Izuku is able to handle several quirks at a time without becoming braindead.

*All the other ones could maybe be disproven (maybe), but the last point can’t. No amount of quirk singularity can fix how much brainspace a person has. Tomura had to get major surgery to be able to handle AFO (which while different from OFA, both have more than one quirk). Meanwhile, Izuku unlocks his predecessors’ quirks like he’s beating a video game (heh).

*One other reason that I just thought of while typing this: maybe there’s a AFO vestige in the vault. I’ve seen this theory tossed around for a while now, but I feel like there would have been more proof outside of that one chapter. Alternatively, if there is an AFO vestige kicking around OFA, that could be AFO’s final play. By being the only one left in OFA, there’s no one to protect Izuku from being taken over, or possessed by the AFO quirk. I really hope it isn’t this one, but it would make an excellent fanfic. Especially if combined with DFO and/or Tomura having to be the one to save Izuku.

Or maybe it’s none of these, and Hori will surprise us. He certainly has before, and I’m 100% sure he will again :D!!

#mha spoilers #mha chapter 417 #mha theory #dfo theory #mha dfo #dad for one #vestige realm #tomura and Izuku #OFA theory #izuku has a quirk

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bone-lemon-aid · 26 days

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SPOLIERS FOR THE NEW MHA CHAPTER⚠️

Shigaraki is still in afos head and now he has all the quirks including the second half of his quirk, the reconstruction part, so I think he’s gonna be the one to fix dekus arms willingly instead of eri, and that’s how the whole save to win part of dekus Ideology will get proven in the war arc

#izuku midoriya #mha chapter 417 #shigaraki tomura #mha izuku #mha #bnha izuku #bnha deku #bnha

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oshiawaseni · 2 months

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The biggest obstacle when it comes to saving Shigaraki’s heart is Decay: If he so much as grabs someone’s hand… they’ll die. Which is a huge deal in a series that places so much emphasis on the act of a Hero holding a lost child's hand to reassure them that everything will be okay.

Shigaraki struggles with connecting to people because he’s never been able to perform even the most rudimentary of expressions for actually *connecting with other people* (such as a handshake)… it's a concept which has been shown to us time and time again in MHA. And if you are a subscriber of "AFO having given decay to Tenko" theory... this is probably the main reason as for why he gave him such a treacherous quirk that would never allow him to connect to another person.

No one has even hugged him since his mother died trying to… and she was his only family who cast aside her safety to give the love, comfort and reassurance that 5 year old Tenko needed back then.

So I think what's to come for Shigaraki is going to be about connecting with him in the way that’s been (impossible).

My theory is that Izuku could have a moment of reaching out to Shigaraki, just as Sailor Moon reached out with a hand for Sailor Galaxia to take… and in doing so, show Tomura his pure intentions to save him. I think this could be a main feature of the Izuku Midoriya Rising chapter!

This parallel works *really* well if Shigaraki is possessed by AFO at the time. The MC’s words and selflessness helping their enemy tap into the love which lives deep inside them. In Sailor Moon this dispersed the chaos in Galaxia… and in MHA it may tame AFO’s kosei/personality.

The full theory with videos can be read here!

When 407 came out, a LOT of us thought Izuku’s hand stood NO chance… even I was concerned! But I think this was actually foreshadowing a future chapter where Izuku reaches out to Shigaraki, knowing he’s risking everything to try reach into his humanity.

There’s also Yoichi’s words: “So why did you reach out to me that day, knowing full well of my ties to your enemy?” …Hori’s been cooking this theme of reaching a hand out to save those in need, no matter who they are. That everyone is a person with a human heart inside them.

So I think Shigaraki will reach out to grab onto Izuku’s outstretched hand, in a Sailor Moon-inspired moment of Tomura finally embracing the love in his heart… and this will free him of all his life’s built up pain.

One thing MHA teaches well is that pure love and compassion towards others, and the self-sacrifices made to help one’s community are the key to controlling one’s quirk. It’s the best expression of individuality in MHA. Kacchan had full mastery over his quirk by embracing love.

I think it’s enough for Shigaraki that Izuku is even *willing* to be decayed to reach into his humanity and show the compassion his mother once gave him when everything was falling apart around him. Izuku may even remind Shigaraki of Inko’s motherly warmth from the memories.

So Shigaraki will be able to control his quirk because his heart is cleansed, leaving only pure love inside. And so he won’t let Decay hurt Izuku when he grabs Izuku’s hand. Shigaraki’s soul could be truly saved by physically connecting to Izuku’s immense heart and kindness for others. No matter when or how it’s done, a handhold scene like this would be so beautiful!

MHA’s society may be incredibly broken and wrong… but the one right thing in the world is the connection between everyone’s hearts, all striving for a better future together. Their belief in hope and each other.

At the very end of her fight, Sailor Moon says that chaos "had gone into the hearts of everyone.” Because if everyone shares a little of the burden, it won’t all fall on one person’s shoulders. But, “It’s alright! The light of hope exists in their hearts also.” ✨❤️✨

#kana writes #bnha meta #bnha 417 #i wrote this before chapter 415 #op #bnha #mha #Tenko shimura #tomura shigaraki

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villainsandvictimsalliance · 2 months

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WE DID IT. IT HAPPENED

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ronimacaroni77 · 1 month

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LOOK ALIVE PEOPLE IZUKU MIDORYIA FINALLY LOOKS LIKE HIMSELF AGAIN!!

WE'RE GETTING CLOSER PEOPLE!!!!

#bnha #mha #my hero academia #boku no hero academia #manga spoilers #izuku midoriya #deku #Chapter 417

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sakubabypowa734 · 2 months

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🚨BOKU NO HERO ACADEMIA CHAPTER 417 ALERT SPOILERS!!!🚨

I won't show the panel where Deku was almost hit by a truck... 🙄

Running through Kotaro and Tenko's past

Nana's shocked and sad of what she saw... Kotaro's violence because of his past being "abandoned" by his mother and Tenko's trauma being abused by his father...

Nana stopping Kotaro while Deku trying to protect Tenko from his father...

Nana telling she is the one to blame for what happened in this family...

Dark Deku...

The nightmare gonna begin at this moment for the whole family...

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featherstorm2004 · 2 months

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so.... were really in for it now (cries)

#i asked for this #and i hate it #shigaraki tomura #my hero academia #mha #bnha spoilers #boku no hero academia #mha shigaraki #bnha shigaraki #tenko shimura #mha izuku #bnha izuku #izuku midoriya #bnha chapter 417

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poisned · 1 month

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I hate the war arc

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idreaminmugiwara · 1 month

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Made the mistake of reading this most recent chapter after I applied mascara. Do not make the same mistake I did.

#mha spoilers #my hero academia spoiilers #my hero academia chapter 417 #chapter 417 mha #my hero academia

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mysteroads · 2 months

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Darn You, Tomura Shigaraki

...You sad little meow meow 😿

Yeah, these last few chapters have hit hard. That quote from Nagant about Izuku in Chpt 416 is just killing me:

Had to screen shot the panel to do it justice. And Tomura's reaction at the end... 😭😭😭 AND, because I am also shameless, I'm throwing in my own Shigaraki quote here from my upcoming Chapter 6, "Safe."

“The brighter the light the darker the shadows, the better everyone can pretend not to see the ones trapped in the dark. It's not right. The coddled sheep don't deserve to live in the pretty lie after I reached out again and again and again and they left me to rot! No hero came to save me! No one helped me! I was pushed aside like inconvenient garbage! Why was I left to be broken?!"

Tomura, sweetie, honey lamb, baby boy... why do you hurt me so?💔 I just... want to wrap him in fluffy blankets and feed him. 🍰 But he's a fictional character and I can't. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to drink some cocoa and go work Part 2 of my "We're All Dead💀 but It's Okay!💞" LoV fic to prepare myself for what's coming.

#go have some chocolate #we're in for a ride #mha chapter 416 #tomura shiragaki #shigaraki tomura #mha tomura #mha shigaraki #my hero academia #my hero academia fanfic #lady nagant #midoriya izuku #izuku midoriya #I have feelings dang it!#boko no hero academia #bnha #mha fanfic #chapter 417 is gonna hurt

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healthiffy · 2 months

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#my hero academia #mha #bnha #boku no hero academia #midoriya izuku #bakugou katsuki #My Hero Academia chapter 417

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pikahlua · 2 months

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MHA Chapter 417 spoilers translations

This week’s initial tentative super rough/literal translations under the cut.

tagline 固く閉ざされた死柄木に迫るデク…‼︎ かたくとざされたしがらきにせまるデク…‼︎ kataku tozasareta Shigaraki ni semaru DEKU...!! Deku approaches Shigaraki who remains firmly closed off...!!

1 何がどうなってんだ⁉︎ なにがどうなってんだ⁉︎ nani ga dou nattenda!? "What's going on!?"

2 もう　よくわからん mou yoku wakaran "Yeesh, I don't really understand."

3 緑谷出久が指の塊をかきわけて中に入ってったんだみどりやいずくがゆびのかたまりをかきわけてなかにはいってったんだ Midoriya Izuku ga yubi no katamari wo kakiwakete naka ni haittettanda "Izuku Midoriya pushed his way through the mass of fingers and was going inside."

1 与一…⁉︎ よいち…⁉︎ Yoichi...!? "Yoichi...!?"

2 ブルース…！ BURUUSU...! "Bruce...!"

3 …万縄… …ばんじょう… ...Banjou... "...Banjou..."

4 俊典… としのり… Toshinori... "Toshinori..."

5 私だけ…弾き返された…⁉︎なんでーーー… わたしだけ…はじきかえされた…⁉︎なんでーーー… watashi dake...hajiki kaesareta...!? nande---... I was the only one...who was bounced back...!? Why---...

1 安心しろよおばあちゃんあんしんしろよおばあちゃん anshin shiro yo obaachan Don't worry, Grandma.

2 あんたもしっかり憎んでるあんたもしっかりにくんでる anta mo shikkari nikunderu I fully hate you, too.

3 憎まれてるからじゃないにくまれてるからじゃない nikumareteru kara ja nai It's not because I'm hated. (Note: This is Nana, and it connects with her lines at #6-7.)

4 行かないでええいかないでええ ikanaideee Don't gooo!

5 お母さああんおかあさああん okaasaaan Moooom!

6 これは kore wa This is

7 私の弱さだわたしのよわさだ watashi no yowasa da my weakness.

tagline No.417　志村　堀越耕平ナンバー417　しむら　ほりこしこうへい NANBAA 417 Shimura Horikoshi Kouhei No. 417 Shimura Kouhei Horikoshi

1 知ってどうするしってどうする shitte dou suru When you know, what will you do?

2 過去を暴いてかこをあばいて kako wo abaite When you uncover the past,

3 何が変わるなにがかわる nani ga kawaru what will change?

4 死柄木から見た僕の姿… しがらきからみたぼくのすがた… Shigaraki kara mita boku no sugata... My appearance as seen by Shigaraki...

5 を使って喋ってるのかをつかってしゃべってるのか wo tsukatte shabetteru no ka which he's using to speak, huh?

6 わからない！でも知らないまま終わるのは嫌だ！わからない！でもしらないままおわるのはいやだ！ wakaranai! demo shiranai mama owaru no wa iya da! "I don't know! But I don't want this to end without knowing!"

7 死ねしね shine "Die."

8 おじゃまします ojama shimasu "[Pardon] the intrusion*." (*Note: This is a common greeting in Japan spoken when entering someone's home or office or otherwise when possibly interrupting someone.)

1 わっ wa "Wah!"

2 っぶねーな‼︎ガキどもォ親ァどこだバっぶねーな‼︎ガキどもォおやァどこだバ bbunee na!! GAKI-domoO oyaA doko da BA "That's dangerous! You brats, where are you parents?"

3 物理的に⁉︎干渉してるぶつりてきに⁉︎かんしょうしてる butsuriteki ni!? kanshou shiteru Physically [touched]!? I'm interfering.

4 死柄木の深層意識に入ったんだしがらきのしんそういしきにはいったんだ Shigaraki no shinsou ishiki ni haittanda "We entered Shigaraki's deep consciousness."

5 君も継承者として精神が形取られてるから干渉し合うきみもけいしょうしゃとしてせいしんがかたちどられてるからかんしょうしあう kimi mo keishousha to shite seishin ga katachidorareteru kara kanshou shi au "As a successor, your spirit also has taken shape, so we will interfere together."

6 7代目…‼︎ 7だいめ…‼︎ 7daime...!! "Seventh...!!"

7 私だけまた弾かれてしまった… わたしだけまたはじかれてしまった… watashi dake mata hajikarete shimatta... "I was the only one who got repelled again..."

8 すまない…！ sumanai...! "Sorry...!"

1 ーーでも側にまだいてくれて僕嬉しいですーーでもそばにまだいてくれてぼくうれしいです --demo soba ni mada ite kurete boku ureshii desu "--But I'm glad you're still by my side."

2 ここはいわば死柄木の核…… ここはいわばしがらきのかく…… koko wa iwaba Shigaraki no kaku...... "This place is Shigaraki's core, so to speak......"

3 原点オリジン ORIJIN (kanji: genten) "His origin."

4 最も繊細で柔らかいところだもっともせんさいでやわらかいところだ motto mo sensai de yawarakai tokoro da "It is the most delicate, soft place."

5 ここでの死柄木は恐らくここでのしがらきはおそらく koko de no Shigaraki wa osoraku The Shigaraki here is probably

6 脆いもろい moroi fragile.

7 触れて奴の原点を打つんだふれてやつのげんてんをうつんだ furete yatsu no genten wo utsunda Touch him to hit his origin.

8 ……原点… ……げんてん… ......genten... ......Origin...

1 だから死ぬだからこうなる dakara kou naru (kanji: shinu) "That's why something like this will happen (read as: you will die)."

2 ステイン‼︎ SUTEIN!! "Stain!!"

3 何を背負い何をつくる⁉︎ なにをせおいなにをつくる⁉︎ nani wo seoi nani wo tsukuru!? "What burden will you carry, and what will you make!?"

4 計画はあるのか？けいかくはあるのか？ keikaku wa aru no ka? "Do you have a plan?"

5 ない！どけ‼︎ nai! doke!! "I don't! Move!!"

1 ーーーーひみつだよ ----himitsu da yo "----It's a secret!"

2 この人おばあちゃんなんだってこのひとおばあちゃんなんだって kono hito obaachan nanda tte "This person, [I heard] she's our grandma."

3 写真… しゃしん… shashin... The photo...

4 弧太朗…！こたろう…！ Kotarou...! Kotarou...!

1 お父さんに内緒で姉妹ヒーローになっちゃおう！おとうさんにないしょできょうだいヒーローになっちゃおう！ otousan ni naisho de kyoudai HIIROO ni nacchaou! "Let's keep it secret from Dad and become sibling heroes!"

1 あの黒いのは死柄木⁉︎ あのくろいのはしがらき⁉︎ ano kuroi no wa Shigaraki!? That black one is Shigaraki!?

2 "拒絶"‼︎ "きょぜつ"‼︎ "kyozetsu"!! [His] rejection!!

3 弾かれる…‼︎ はじかれる…‼︎ hajikareru...!! I'm being repelled...!!

4 あと一歩なのに…！あといっぽなのに…！ ato ippo nanoni...! It's just one more step...!

5 あれはおばあちゃんじゃない are wa obaachan ja nai "That is not your Grandma."

6 子どもを捨てた鬼畜だこどもをすてたきちくだ kodomo wo suteta kichiku da "That is a demon who abandoned her child."

7 ーーー…そうか ---...sou ka ---...I see.

8 持ちたくて持ってたんじゃないもちたくてもってたんじゃない mochitakute mottetanja nai It's not that you had it because you wanted to have it. (Note: I think she is talking about the photograph.)

1 いいかヒーローというのはな… ii ka HIIROO to iu no wa na... "You see, heroes are those who..."

2 捨てられなかったんだ…… すてられなかったんだ…… suterarenakattanda...... It's that you couldn't throw it away......

3 他人をたすける為にたにんをたすけるために tanin wo tasukeru tame ni "in order to help/save* others," (*Note: There is no kanji for tasukeru, so the meaning is likely meant to be purposefully ambiguous.)

4 ずっとー… zutto-... For so long-...

5 家族を傷つけるんだかぞくをきずつけるんだ kazoku wo kizutsukerunda "hurt their families."

6 ずっと捨てられなかったんだずっとすてられなかったんだ zutto suterarenakattanda It's that for so long you couldn't throw it away.

7 私がつけた傷がわたしがつけたきずが watashi ga tsuketa kizu ga The wounds I caused

8 死柄木にまで広がったんだしがらきにまでひろがったんだ Shigaraki ni made hirogattanda spread to Shigaraki.

9 ーーAFOに勝ってーーオール・フォー・ワンにかって --OORU FOO WAN ni katte --If only I had won against All For One

10 お迎えに行けてたらーー… おむかえにいけてたらーー… omukae ni iketetara--... and gone to get you--...