#longbow hunters

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ok im deleting my pointlessly confrontational tags and just making my own post: its always so weird to see people count Longbow Hunters and TKJ as like. TKJ is so awful and Longbow Hunters is so good when like. Both used a woman being hurt to make a man sad. Both cared way more about the male heroes than the female heroes.

The only difference is that Alan Moore did not write the follow-up to Babs being hurt so we got actual focus on her and her feelings, and her calling out the various characters and sexist writers, but the person in charge of writing Dinah's follow up was the same guy who wrote her being hurt make a man sad, and it shows so very very much.

#sorry this will always be a grell negative blog #killing joke #longbow hunters #sexist tropes #green arrow 1987

[balu8]

Mike Grell: Shado 

#mike grell #Shado #Longbow Hunters

[thatpersonwhosaidtheywouldnt]

Been reading up on Dinah and am in Grell's Green Arrow run and man, I hate it. I mean, first off, Longbow Hunters fridged Dinah so, rocky start. Won't go into it too much but it's pretty horrific. The art sexualizes the whole thing and the whole purpose is just to drive Oliver to kill. Then, for most of the time on his run, Dinah seems to just sit at home while Oliver goes out to hero. While she has two stories that run at the same time as the Grell run where she is doing Black Canary work, if a reader didn't know those existed (and let me tell you they aren't the easiest to find), they would think Dinah is basically a civilian for the 3 or so years before she puts on the Black Canary suit in the book. There is nothing wrong with civilian love interests but Dinah is not one and turning her into one for Oliver's sake is why I am always hesitant about them being together.

There are so many other things wrong with this series. The having kids plotline where Dinah doesn't want to have them cause she doesn't want to make orphans then changes her mind a number of issues in because Oliver almost dies and she wants to have a part of him left if he were to actually die. This totally goes against her desire to not make orphans in the first place. Then we find out she can't have kids because of injuries from a few years previous, injuries which we can only assume are the ones from when she was tortured. This leads into us discovering Shado raped Oliver and had a child because he was so in love with Dinah, she knew the only thing she could give him was an heir. To which Dinah responds by asking if she loves Oliver.

I could go one forever but these are just a couple things. I feel like the internet is trying to gaslight me cause all I am finding is praise for this run while this run not only seems to hate it's female characters but also Oliver.

#dc comics #dc #dc critical #black canary #dinah lance #mike grell #longbow hunters #shado #rape tw #torture tw

[dogwithglasses]

i know a person died but like. the outline with the arrow through it feels a little cartoonish to me. would they really draw the arrow like that

#green arrow #mike grell #longbow hunters #pete reads green arrow

[lesbianspeedy]

whats this? ITS ARROWFAM AS REDUCTRESS HEADLINES PART FOUR

#ga reductress #arrowfam #i like to be soo silly and very very specifically match up the images i use to the headlines #dinahs is the only one i didnt #and thats mostly bc i didnt want to look at longbow hunters rn #green arrow #black canary #oliver queen #mia dearden #connor hawke #roy harper #arsenal #red arrow #emiko queen #speedy #dinah lance

[tbcanary]

2023 reading list: Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters (1987)

To find the predator, you look for the prey.

(ID under the cut.)

ID: Five panels from Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters. Two are still images, placed as banners above and below three animations.

1: Oliver Queen in his Green Arrow costume, surrounded by Mt. Rainier and wilderness.

2: Shado stands in front of an orange and red background. A dragon slowly fades into view, and then back out.

3: Dinah Lance stands in front of the Seattle skyline. Text appears that reads "I won't make orphans." Blood drips slowly from her temples and down her arm, and then from the text itself.

4: Oliver looks out over an arrow as it slowly drips blood offscreen. A spider creeps down the frame beside his face.

5: Shado is facing away from the viewer. The Seattle skyline is laid out behind her, lit by a setting sun.

/End ID

#flashing gifs // #green arrow #the longbow hunters #shado #dinah lance #black canary #oliver queen #2023reads #tbanimation #tbedits #WHEW. #i loved this little run in the way of like. i learned a lot about how old comics used to be. #shado is soooo different from what i expected based on what i knew before going into this #anyway it was well worth the read but also WHEEEEEWWWWW #ykwim. ykwim?? #also GOD old comics are hard to edit. i feel like this one looks really bad and i have to say: it's because i STRUUUUGGLED #MY GOOD GOD... #anyway that's all #spiders cw //

[strawberrytalia]

“I once said you haven’t the eyes of a killer. They’ve changed…as you have. You can never go back. Nor can I.”

#hello just dropping my new future header here #bc i just reread longbow hunters for the first time in a while #AND GOD. it’s so so so good #green arrow #ollie queen #shado #SHADOOOOOOO #bro i really loved their dynamic in this omg #also if it was obvs…i’m not shipping them or erasing the history of sa #even tho dc did #i just think they’re so interesting as parallels #arrowfam

[ufonaut]

Mike Grell’s concept art for his Green Arrow (1988) run, from Back Issue (2003) #18.

#mike grell #green arrow #oliver queen #green arrow: the longbow hunters #green arrow 1988 #dc #dc comics #u can reblog

[themyscirah]

NOOOOOOOO OLLIE NOT THE DOG 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

#swishy liveblogs #im reading longbow hunters now btw #“but werent you just-” yeah. got distracted. idw to talk abt it 🙈 #anyways nooooooo ollie not the dog 😭😭😭😭 #also this is the second time hes shot a dog today (of me reading comics) #the first time he didn't kill it though :( #also love how he was like “and then i promised to never kill animals again” like okay. liar. <3 #ahsjahsahahah

[tronodiferro]

House Hunter of Longbow Hall

GameOfThronesFanatic-Knjiga

#House Hunter of Longbow Hall #House Arryn #Westeros #George R. R. Martin #ASOIAF #A Song of Ice and Fire #Game of Thrones #House of the Dragon #asoiafart #GOT #HOTD

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The treatment of female characters between Longbow Hunters + Hunters Moon and TKJ is really not that different.

#ok last hater post #then im done #grell negative #dc comics #killing joke #longbow hunters #sexist tropes #green arrow 1987

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Mike Grell:Green Arrow and Shado

#mike grell #the longbow hunters #green arrow #shado #art #comics #dc comics

[motheatenscarf]

Oh, also, further good news, I've been given a wonderful opportunity to salvage Aashi from the Goblin Squad game that fell the fuck apart and am bringing her to the Rifts game that Altanin escaped to.

Yes, Altanin and Aashi still know each other from their adventures with Goblin Squad, Rifts is weird like that. So, Aashi still gets to know her buddy and she still gets to be her bad self, just adapting to a WEIRD new environment, and, honestly?

Kinda thriving.

Rifts earth setting is a horrible postapocalyptic wasteland with magic, tech, vampires, and fascists, but it also has modern weapons.

Like, yeah, sure, she has to deal with monsters and warring factions on the brink of societal collapse, but I mean, she had to deal with all those and dragons before, so whatever. At least now she can do all that with the power of GUN and indoor plumbing, so frankly, this is a glow up, and it's not JUST the radiation!

#Caitlin Plays Rifts #Aashi Singh #she looks so much better with modern clothing and weapons and shorter hair and horizon walker is so much more fun to play #than basic ass hunter with a longbow

[dogwithglasses]

Oliver WHY are you sitting cross legged on the table

#green arrow #pete reads green arrow #longbow hunters #Mike grell

[inhousearchive]

House-ad for Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters (1987). Art by Mike Grell. 

#green arrow #oliver queen #mike grell #the longbow hunters #80s #dc #dc comics #dcedit #comicedit #comicsedit

[lesbianspeedy]

if you make ga/bc fancasts that are specifically made to be for the dceu and then you recast dinah as a white woman instead of jurnee, know that i am judging you so badly

#like jurnee did not kick higher than any salary i’ll ever have in that terrible movie for u to recast her #she did not read longbow hunters and look that good with cropped black hair #for you to say generic blonde white woman no. 3 should be dinah