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zoe-oneesama · 3 months
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mikodrawnnarratives · 28 days
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Two years ago I started on ideas for a full blown rewrite of Miraculous Ladybug. And it was the result of bad faith critiques against the show and just an overwhelming amount of salt I didn't realize I could filter. I lost my enjoyment but I did think of a lot of ideas for what could have happened in the show. It was kinda like "oh I haven't seen anyone else do it so I'll make a rewrite that makes everyone happy"
Completely ignorant that I was not original, it's been done before, etc.
Is it any surprise I burned out hard on that lmao. I barely posted stuff for this and yet here I am. Burnt out from my self imposed perfectionism and consistently going back and forth on if I think the show is bad enough to warrant a full rewrite. It wasn't ever going to last since my fuel was trying to create something that everyone would be happy with.. impossible.
I think after reading enough text posts from bugga chat I think the show can be viewed in a way that is better done than you'd expect. I enjoyed creating stuff Abt ml much more when I wasn't bogged down by salters
I've realized I like creators (bugga chat & Anne scribbles to name a couple) that enjoy the show a lot more than creators that don't. And I also don't think I can top Zoe's Scarlet Lady au in terms of fixing canon's issues and characterization. That's a full blown project I recommend checking out lol
And y'know, even if I wrote this out, I'd be catering for an audience I just don't agree with anymore. Like, Chloe redemption arc for instance, I don't think canon was perfect with how they handled Chloe but I also don't think that arc was destined to be a redemption and they did a 180.
I've begun to feel DEEPLY uncomfortable with some Chloe stans (not all) too since the show implies Chloe's bullying of Marinette was had racist intentions and now that I realize that I.. idk I just feel uncomfortable with some perceptions of Chloe. I still like the idea of a redemption arc for her but I don't really want to be the one to write it and make it work lmao
I still have a lot of ideas for this au/rewrite I think could be cool I also just don't want to rewrite everything in the show for them.
So. What next.
Omg that felt cool to say wowsers anyway
This isn't to say I'm abandoning anything JOTG related, don't fear if you follow the side blog. I just won't be writing anything like full seasons and this'll be just fanart and ramblings of ideas to accompany them. I'll leave it to everyone else to imagine a show that foreshadows and builds on any of those ideas.
No guarantees about how often I'll draw for those ideas (especially since my biggest hyperfixations at the moment are different fandoms) but it feels like significantly less pressure for me to put on myself haha. Look forward to the fanart cuz, again, I do think I have some BOMB ideas for how canon could be different
Thx for reading! :)
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plutobutartsy · 2 years
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no because i've been thinking a lot about how i would rewrite mlb even though i'm NOT a writer lol so here's a list of things i can think of right now:
chloe redemption!! they did her so dirty she deserves so much better and there's so much wasted potential :( i would go more in detail about her family issues and how they affect her. with zoe i think it would make sense for chloe to see her as a sort of rival, as in wanting to be the favourite child and being scared that with zoe being there, her mom will spend even less time with her
we all know that marinette's crush on adrien is very obsessive and that the show portrays her creepy behaviour as normal. so. none of that. i think in the beginning she would put him on a pedestal and act accordingly but she would soon realize that he's. just a dude. and acknowledge that her way of thinking was wrong. this would also lead to her being a bit less nervous and stutter-y around him lol and to them actually being able to build a closer friendship
a similar thing with adrien and ladybug! to me it feels like in the show chat noir is a lot more of a sidekick so maybe in the beginning he also had a pretty glorified view of ladybug which caused him to rely a bit too much on her? if that makes sense?? so when he eventually starts to realize that under the mask she's also just a person he would take a much more active role you know?
alternatively i think it could also tie into underlying self-esteem issues, like "ladybug is so great and amazing, there's no way i could do more than just follow her lead, i'd just get in the way"
less irresponsible adults
they are 14. they need help. su han actually had a point when he said that they were just kids. so he would definitely take on more of a mentor role. maybe him and marinette would compromise that, for now, she would renounce her role as guardian and let him take over. in exchange, he would start training her so she's ready to take on the role when she is an adult and can handle it better.
su han would also train marinette and adrien when it comes to fighting and understanding their powers because it's just so unrealistic that they learned how to fight perfectly on the fly lmaoo so i think while they have come a long way on their own, they still need a lot more guidance
obviously he would know both their identities and you know. be an actually responsible adult. so he would deffo be a support system for them (especially for adrien because jesus that boy has no trusted adult figure in his life </3 he would probably pose as an ordinary tutor or something to by-pass gabriel)
su han would also do a lot more of the background hero work. so researching the miraculous', looking into potential temporary holders that AREN'T all children and from the same social circle as marinette, and especially going after clues to find out who shadowmoth is
moving on
i really hated how lukanette ended up being portrayed on the show
so personally, i find it much better for them to be friends until eventually marinette gets over adrien. she realizes that if she doesn't confess to him, nothing would change. lukanette wouldn't happen until marinette is over her feelings for adrien
design changes. so many of them. i especially hate rose's outfit i'm sorry it's hideous lol i might actually draw some redesigns and post them on my art blog :)
that's all i can think of right now
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I hope you don't mind me dumping my thoughts and personal views about Zoe Lee here, as I'm quite fond of her but am very critical of her character's execution:
I relate to Zoe being a people-pleaser on a personal level. Then again, that's like, the only thing I can think of when describing Zoe's character, so I can see why she's seen as bland by many people... Oof.
And I understand the hate because Zoe is only created to provide a big fat "fuck you" to certain fans (as in, she is NOT created as a character, but rather an "out of spite" type of thing) which is already a bad sign. In fact, I'm not a fan of everyone already accepting Zoe in her debut episode, because coming from experience, Zoe's situation is not easy to be in (then again Marinette is a popular kind girl with almost everyone in her class as her friends. As long as you don't have a Chloe personality or not portrayed as a bad person in some way, you're automatically kind and liked by everyone); It takes a lot of guts and recovery to confess that bravely or feel more comfortable of yourself after faking yourself from pleasing everyone for so long. Hell, I STILL need more time to recover after being a people-pleaser for years because it took a huge toll on me for struggling to find my comfort zone. So yeah, I'm not satisfied with how they did to Zoe. They think her struggles can be fixed with a snap with no sense of real pain going on, and she's only here to make Chloe look worse than she already is.
The least I could hope for is to not give her a love interest lol. That would just complete her Mary Sue levels. /hj
TL;DR, I adore Zoe Lee, but just like the entirety of the show, she's a bunch of wasted potential.
Don’t worry, I understand.
I’ve said it several times: I think Zoe is an interesting character in concept. A girl doing whatever she can to get friends while getting little support from her family is a character archetype that could lead to some interesting storylines. But she’s only there just to make Chloe look bad while giving the writers an excuse to give up on writing a redemption arc, all while Astruc claims that literally introducing a character’s long-lost half-sister was planned from the beginning and not a desperate attempt to shake things up.
I think if Zoe was her own character unrelated to Chloe, she could have been a decent character, but as it stands, there’s a reason why she’s so polarizing among the fandom after only two episodes.
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cinnamonblueberry22 · 3 years
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Optigami Review + A big rant on Cat noir in season 4
Alright, I haven't been really active on Tumblr lately mainly because of school and all the work I've been receiving, but this is the one time I can post so just bear with me lmao.
*SPOILERS AHEAD*
Optigami Review:
Honestly love Ladybee, her transformation did look a bit rough, but her suit looks stunning. Too bad Cat noir didn't get to see it.
Kind of lost as to why there's only Luka, Kagami, Max, Chloe, and the other miraculous holders that Shadowmoth knew the identities of, did Gabriel just ask Adrien those specific people, and Adrien just, did not find anything suspicious about that?
Did Adrien just not question as to why Kaalki, the kwami of teleportation, was there with Rena Rouge?? And why Kaalki even teleported him somewhere so far to the Montparnasse Tower even though he's literally Cat noir and needed to fight??
Why were the kwamis magically able to be heard on the phone?? I thought they weren't able to be seen in technology, the phone is technology... So why were they heard??
Now for Alya. Honestly, she did seem a bit suspicious earlier because she wanted to be a permanent holder even though it's not the wisest decision and then completely acted like everything was fine after saying "It's your choice tho" and then immediately got to be a permanent miraculous holder... Seems like she wanted to cover her plans up by seeming sincere and then got her chance. Foreshadowing? Even if I love Alya in general, I do love some betrayal plot twist stories.
Mari is not making the right decision because, it will be okay for a moment, but Shadowmoth literally knows who Rena Rouge is. And at the end of the episode, we see him wanting to get to know Alya better. Alya is going to be in danger. This is going to affect Ladynoir. I mean, yea, I want angst but still.
Overall, I rate this episode a 7.5/10. It was impactful, we got to see Cat noir upset about not being needed, but there were also some questionable things in this episode like I mentioned previously. Other than that it was a decent episode and for once I liked Shadowmoths plan tbh.
So there's been a ton of people talking about "Cat noir is being replaced by Rena Rouge!" and all that... I just have one question, why? Why are you so upset over the fact that Rena was here for like, what, two episodes? And then saying she's replacing him? It's as if you're living in Cat noirs mind lmao. I swear I saw at least 12 videos in the span of two days after the release of Optigami saying how upset Cat noir is and how they're bashing Rena for it as if it's entirely her fault for getting to be a permanent miraculous holder and about to be replaced as the next Guardian of the miraculous box. Look, if you despise any girl that's getting more screentime over a DEUTERAGONIST, just say you're misogynistic and go. I don't mean to sound controversial, but what's up with you hating and bashing on girls that "Get in the way" of something that you cherish and baby (Ex. 'Kagami gets in the way of adrienette, Rena is replacing Cat noir, Vesperia is a replacement of Chloe and gets in the way of Ladynoir' who, may I remind you, is a racist rich girl and Cat can like anyone he wants so shut it)
Now back to the main subject, yes, you can be upset over what's happening to Cat noir, but that doesn't give you the right to completely bash the girls who have nothing to do with hurting him unintentionally (BTW, Ladybug is the one who is hurting him by not telling him anything, still doesn't mean you should hate on her, you can talk about it but bullying her over- dramatic; this is a kid show for god's sake). I am upset about Cat noir, but it's clear that the writers are planning something with him, as I will talk more about in the rest of this post.
There have been tons of foreshadowing in the past episodes about Adrien/Cat noir, so let me talk about it.
I'll start with Truth. In Truth, Cat noir gets hit by the spell, and Ladybug asks him his opinion on her role as Guardian of the Miraculous Box. He then says "If it doesn't change things between you and me, then I'm good with it!". But things are changing, and he's clearly not okay, this was some good foreshadowing I did not notice earlier lmao. This was a good part on the writers job.
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In Mr. Pigeon 72, the end card is quite interesting. Practically all the photos of Adrien in this end card are of him wearing his blue scarf. When it wasn't even mentioned in this episode. Even if it wasn't said, it actually is still there. In Bubbler, when Adrien arrives to school, Nino says "Wow dude, guess adults can really change!" This line is effective to Adrien. The moment he got the scarf and apparently it was from his father, he was so happy. From the scarf, he thinks his father can change. He thinks his father is just demanding and over protective. He thinks his father just "Doesn't know how to show his love for his son" Even though, us, the audience, knows thats not true. Adrien is not blind. From the scarf, that's what's making Adrien keep on thinking his father isn't bad. And in Mr. Pigeon 72, he literally tells Marinette the moment he wants to walk with her in the rain and then sees the gorilla, "I can't, you know my father, he's demanding." Even though that's not the case. So why was it included in the end card? Foreshadowing that there will be a scarf reveal. Foreshadowing that Adrien will find out the truth. Even if the truth isn't always great.
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Now for Solecrusher. I picked this scene because, I find it really upsetting. When Zoe was opening up to everyone talking about how she made different roles to please Chloe, and when Ivan hugs Zoe, Adrien is upset. Why? Because he relates to her. He makes different roles of himself or different personalities, to please everyone. That's why he's upset.
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Now for the end card. Here's a little close-up. We see Adrien, Ivan, Juleka, Luka, and Rose. However, Adrien is farther from the others. He stills feels isolated and stuck. While everyone else is happy. He stills feels the need to pretend. Which is making Adrien feel worse.
This isn't specifically about Adrien, but I kind of see a little pattern here. Solecrusher shows Andre is the one who made Solitude. Queen Banana shows a movie being made. What's the next episode? Gabriel Agreste. This episode will probably be all about flashbacks. About the movie Solitude. About Emilie. Showing Gabriel, Emilie, and Adrien younger. I honestly think that Gabriel and Adriens relationship is still as bad, I just think that even if Adrien claims it was better before.
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This was honestly the episode I felt the worse for Adrien. He nearly killed himself and Ladybug didn't even talk about it after. Now, I know Ladybug wouldn't know what to say, but she should at least speak up?? I mean that's all I want tbh. The end card seems.. Off. Adrien is not included even though he had a big role in comforting Juleka in the beginning of the episode. Cat noir is shown to be, smiling.. But the smile doesn't even seem genuine. He's still upset. He's still not okay. Foreshadowing that he's feeling even worse than before.
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Optigami. Holy this episode. Well I already rated it before but yea. Take a look at his facial expressions. He's upset he wasn't even in the battle (Meaning he wasn't never happy with the fact that he's sometimes not even needed in fights like Style Queen), he's angry, shocked/disappointed, then pretends he's the same old Cat noir with the flirty jokes, but the moment Ladybug leaves with her superhero allies (Still questioning why she even left tho; Shadowmoth knows those identities yet Cat noir doesn't..) And Cat noir is just upset. I couldn't take the exact frame of him alone but I see him looking all moody and sad. He's now pretending to be fine as Cat noir. Which is not getting any better, but more angsty lol.
As I saw all the foreshadowing in this season, the writers seem to be isolating Adrien even more. And after the scarf reveal, I'm pretty sure he's going to pretend to be fine with that too. I feel like a lot is going to happen to him. Maybe even him possibly becoming a.. Villain? What? In Queen Banana, it shows the hero of creation, and the villain of destruction. Could mean something. Other than that, I've been thinking about a lot of angsty fake scenarios of Adrien lately lol.. Back to the subject, the possible breakdown or conflict between Ladynoir would happen in season 4. It's the most logical time.
Oh, and one more thing:
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Bye!
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