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[prof-ramses]

The Sounds of Nightmares episode 2 analysis: The Grim and The Divine

Let's start with the best boy, Jester!

I find it interesting that Jester seems better adjusted to the Nowhere than other kids. One could try to dismiss it by saying SuperHorrorBro wrote the episode, but that can be debunked by the fact that the showrunner cowrote and approved the episode meaning that Jester's mannerisms are within the realm of possibility within the Nowhere. Jester's habit to forget the punchline along with his seemingly well adjusted demeanor imply he's been in the Nowhere for quiet a while.

On the topic of the fish boats:

I believe these may be an attempt to establish how the Maw avoids word getting out about the guests deaths, by being one of many giant sea creature shaped vessels.

I don't think there's much to discuss about the Bathers, other than the fact that I hope they NEVER offcialy appear in a visual medium.

Onto the Ferryman/Candleman!

I think he's much more powerful than we thought before, no longer just a shapeshifting freelance child hunter, now one of the main, if not only, beings to actively attempt to keep kids in the Nowhere. (Also makes me think that while SoN will focus on reinventing him, LN3 will reinvent North Wind, Mirror Man and the villain concepts from the cancelled issues)

Up next will be my general thoughts on Noone and Otto.

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[grim-faux]

Trigger warning for sensitive topics.

The ferryman is a predator!

I hate how a few people are interpreting him as a “savior” or as somehow being the Lesser of Two evils. When he is NOT!

He stalks Noone, awaits for an opportunistic moment where she is at her most vulnerable in order to take her, then there’s his connection to the Maw, which had “kidnapping children for the elite”as an old official description.

Seriously, the whole idea behind the Maw and the Ferryman taking children to work there or worse to be “eaten” sounds so much like child trafficking. All he is missing is an old white van.

We know how awful the Nowhere is and what awaits the children who have the misfortune to get taken there, they get mistreated, forced to work/perform, eaten, killed and far worse.

The story is not a “OMG, Yesssss! Noone got away from her abuser!”

Otto is terrible, but the Ferryman is much, much worse. I just can’t see how people can see the ending as a triumph, as being better off, much less being good for Noone, when her ending is pretty much a life sentence or Horror beyond her comphresion. (A quiet acceptance of the terrible reality around her)

If anything the story is a cautionary tale about how society has failed children, how trauma breeds more trauma and how this can drive kids into far worse situations than they were originally in. All because society and the adults and what should be their net of support all failed them.

This right here. Otto and the Ferry/Candlebro may both be monsters, but Otto is still and has always been a victom of the Candle/Ferryman same as the children that were directly taken.

But CandleFerry man is getting compensation and benefits for his work. Otto just wanted his sister back.

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[itstimetotheorize]

Incredible.

Otto reveals the Ferryman alone has been documented in stories for hundreds of years in different cultures all around the world, all of which say he is a mythical being guarding the entry to another world. People knew he existed, but his existence was greatly ignored by many and considered nothing more than a myth. The people(like parapsychologists) who either believe in him and/or researched him in those stories, were also labeled as nothing but crazy. The Parapsychologists, people who study psychic phenomena and the paranormal, say the Ferryman/Candleman is better known as “The Guardian at the threshold”.

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[softichill]

The Sounds of Nightmares unofficial transcript

Chapter 2 - A Penance at the Bathouse

(created in collaboration with @queen0fm0nsterz !!!!!!)

Chapter 1

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[Click]

[Rewind sound]

OTTO: During our fourth session, developments in Noone’s case unearthed echoes of past failures. The girl recalled a familiar figure. 

[Click, Otto plays the tape]

Recording of NOONE: “The Candleman stood before me, on the rooftop. He wore… a long filthy jacket. His presence… it reminded me of… when the tide goes out.”

[Click, Otto pauses the tape]

OTTO: An uncanny sense of deja-vu, for Noone has seemingly encountered my Cici’s [distorted] Ferryman. I thought him lost forever. Yet, if true, he’s somehow found a way back to where he began. And who is he? Some deranged bedlamite? A mutual dreaming savant, invading the nightmares of innocents? It seems absurd. All I know for certain is that I must dig deeper. 

[tape rewinding]

[Intro plays]

[Various clicking]

OTTO: This is the Counselor, tape number 57, session number 4, patient number… Hm, patient Noone. [Tapping and shifting]

OTTO: I was presumptuous. Judgemental. Now I feel it’s paramount to prioritize Noone’s treatment over several other cases, due to demonstration of abnormal neurological faculties. [Shifting sounds] To dissent her further, today I’ll venture an unconventional method. [something electric is turned on]

[Beeping. Otto sighs]

OTTO: Admittedly dated, but this device should help attain further clarity. 

[Beeping alts. Audio cuts]

[Steps, pages shuffling. Someone knocks on the door]

OTTO: (cheery) Please, come in! 

[Door creaks open and closes]

OTTO: How are we doing today, Noone?

NOONE: Otto, what happens to a stone that has overcome its greatest fear? 

OTTO: You’re… telling a joke?

NOONE: Yes, but I never got the punchline.

OTTO: I’ll have to think about that –

NOONE: Hey, look! A moth!

[Otto shifts to look]

NOONE: We went on vacation once, under my doctor’s advice. Swarms of moths gathered around that balcony each night. They fascinated me, their little ways! How they just… existed. I collected them in mum’s plastic jars. 

OTTO: Well, this might be a good time to tell me about your mother. 

NOONE: …I’d rather not. Mum didn’t share my enthusiasms for crawlies. But moths were my favorite, drawn to light under some kind of spell.

OTTO: Perhaps you see a bit of yourself in the moth. Vulnerable, caught in the spotlight. The fame you received after the cure –

NOONE: I don’t feel cured. At all.

OTTO: …You feel you’re still in the dark?

NOONE: Yes. But I like to try to fly towards the light.

OTTO: [Hum] Then let me be that guiding light. And eventually, together, we’ll leave your darkness behind. 

NOONE: How you said that… reminds me of the place I visited.

OTTO: On your vacation?

NOONE: No. Last night, in my dream.

OTTO: Let’s make sure you’re comfortable before jumping in.

NOONE: Oh, I feel at ease. Calm even. Can I tell you about it?

OTTO: If you like, then I suppose you could –

NOONE, narrating: I awoke to wet air on a rooftop. 

NOONE: Peeking over the ledge, I saw an ocean, stretching all the way to the horizon. On the nearest shore, giant fish-like contraptions crawled out from the waves, and from their mouths, plump men and women emerged. Faces hidden behind wooden masks, bodies tucked away beneath mucky brown robes. Some used sticks to labour up the long winding boardwalk leading from the beach to the lantern-lit market below. 

[Bells and steps]

NOONE: Their destination was behind me. A distant, crooked bathhouse. A voice whispered, “Hey!”, and I turned to see a grubby, breathless boy stepping off a ladder. He dressed in tatty shorts and… shirt covered in pin badgers. He said, 

JESTER, overlapping with NOONE: “Do you know a way out of here?”

NOONE: I told him I was equally lost, but he insisted on traveling together. He went on,

JESTER, (ov. with NOONE): “Other kids call me Jester, because I never run out of jokes. I can tell you some along the way!” 

NOONE: I didn’t reply, so he blurted,

JESTER (ov. with NOONE): “Uhm, a man tells his friend to stop looking for the perfect match…” 

NOONE: But, he stopped. I could tell he realized that parts of him… were missing. As if… just being here… [slimy, crawling sound] was changing him. I realized something too: my headache was gone. Jester yelled out,

JESTER (ov. with NOONE): “Oh! He tells him to… use a lighter!”

[Otto interrupts the narration]

OTTO: Then this boy was the impetus for your joke! [Shifting] You met a child in your nightmare prior, but this one sounds far more… normal. 

NOONE: He looked like the kids from school, only… kinder. The ones at school teased me. Well, until I fell ill. After the water sickness, the same children who made me dread walking through these rotten gates began sucking up. But I’ve always been the same me. 

NOONE: Funny. I feel less me now than before.

OTTO: Children can be cruel. I had my share of tormentors in adolescence. 

NOONE: Really?

OTTO: It’s regrettably common. [Shifting] Tell me what happened next.

NOONE, narrating: Jester pulled my arm. “Look”, he said, pointing me to long planks of wood laid down like bridges between the rooftops. …Other children had traveled this path before.

OTTO: Other children? [Otto writing]

NOONE: The walkways had been placed there. They were too narrow for those swollen adults below. It must have been other children, and Jester – he was real too. [Writing] I felt his presence just as I feel yours here in this room. [Pause] Could that… be the dream sharing you spoke of?

OTTO: Let’s not leap to assumptions. Go on. The planks?

[Pause. Sounds of slow steps on wood]

NOONE, narrating:  We carefully walked each one, building to building. [Steps on terrain and wood, as well as faint bells] Below, the masked figures continued their walk too. Every now and then, a traveler would leave their place in line to take goods from the many merchants who’d offered all manner of soaps and perfumes. Their flowery smells mixed with… the fishy stench, pouring from the chimneys of the bathhouse…

[walking and bells continue]

NOONE: When we reached our final building, our only option was to head down the long ladder, sneaking around the side into an alleyway below. Jester was the nervous sort, so, I did my best to stir his courage and asked, [overlapping] “Have you another joke?”, and he replied,

JESTER (ov. with NOONE): “Oh, right! What happens to a stone that has overcome its greatest fear?”

NOONE: And there it was again. That… lost look. Like granny used to get. I asked him, [overlapping] “You don’t remember?” And Jester simply said,

JESTER (ov. with NOONE): “I’ll know it by the time I reach the bottom.”

NOONE: But, before I could follow… something called out from across the rooftop. A muddled voice, and then… I saw him. That man with- the impossible face. The same one from the room of glass jars, the – I can never focus on him!

[Narration stops]

OTTO: Noone, I need you to recall fine details.

NOONE: I told you!

OTTO: Especially when speaking of persons you’ve seen multiple times. Recurrence implies significance. 

NOONE: He’s a… broken mirror. Or a photograph all torn up. Impossible to piece back together.

OTTO: I have something. [Otto gets up from his chair, steps] A magic glue for your mind. 

[Steps, shifting, Otto sets the device up. Beeping and buzzing.]

NOONE: I don’t want to wear that.

OTTO: (immediately) You must. If you cannot remember specifics then I cannot help you. I must know about this mystery figure, I… simply must. 

[Shifting]

NOONE: Um… Alright then. 

[Noone puts on the device. Everything except Noone’s voice becomes slightly muffled]

NOONE: [pause] A pendant?

OTTO: This belonged to someone very important. Gazing into its spiral always gave me relief. I found it can be used to offer my patients that same relief through hypnotherapy… which will help you remember this, um…

NOONE: The Candleman. It’s my name for him.

[Shifting]

OTTO: I’d like you to gaze into the spiral. Watch it sway, back and forth. Back, and forth. Fall into the endless turning of the pattern within. As you drift away, drift back into dreaming. Drift into a world coming clearer. 

NOONE: Y-Yes… I see.

OTTO: Then, tell me of… the Candleman. 

NOONE, narrating: …The candleman stood before me. On the rooftop. [Faint, low breathing] He wore… a long filthy jacket. His presence…. it reminded me of… when the tide goes out. And his face… it moved beneath his hat. Like soup. Bits and pieces rising and sinking. Wait… I can see a little better now. 

NOONE: H-His eyes… are long slits. Skin-rough, sagging… like melting wax. He didn’t speak, but somehow I knew. The Candleman wanted me to open myself. To this place. Yes, he has for a while now. Every night. 

OTTO: (muffled) Every night?

NOONE: Oh. I can see it all. A web. He’s�� been with me this whole time. Watching. Observing. Waiting…

OTTO: What does he want?

NOONE: I don’t know… [muffled yelling] Someone shouting. I turn to look,

OTTO: I’d like to keep talking about-

NOONE: No! When I turn back, the Candleman was gone. I-I rush to the ladder [Dream!Noone running, clunk]. At the bottom stood a- wart-covered brute with filthy arms. He must have broken away from the boardwalk, and something hung in his hand, flapping l-like a fish. He headed to the Bathhouse and… something told me to follow. 

[clanking]

NOONE: As I climb down the ladder, I passed by an open shop window, and poked my head inside. The merchant… spoke in- a raspy voice, [overlapping] “What’s your pleasure?” A desperate moan came from the customer, and he said [overlapping whisper] “Suds. To cleanse this profound skin.” And then… the merchant lifted- a bottle of pink liquid, and said “This will ease your pain.”

[Dream!Noone continues climbing down, lands]

NOONE: A-at the bottom of the ladder, Jester wasn’t there, so… I set off, making my way through- the overgrowth, that had eaten up the land around the Bathhouse.

[plants rustling] 

NOONE: Until, I reached some vines, crawling up a fogged window. 

[Window being opened, Dream!Noone entering and landing on the floor]

NOONE: I was in some kind of- store closet. [water dripping] The shelves were lined with… cleaning chemicals, and… brushes and buckets. The stink of bleach stung my eyes, so I rush through the door. 

[heavy door opening, echoey bath splashing]

NOONE: A room with shallow pools. And the same polluted taste in the air, as the stream by our apartment. 

OTTO: [writing, muffled] Water parasite preoccupation-

NOONE, Not narrating: (distressed) Something lives on. Even after the cure! Pinching my skin, pulling my organs, my head’s like- cracked pavement and my scalp is- itchy!- So itchy- urgh!!!

OTTO: Enough! Enough scratching. 

[Beeping, clicking as Otto unstraps the device. Beeping powers down, audio is clearer]

OTTO: (comforting) Noone, listen. There’s nothing on you. Nothing inside, either. It’s only you and me, and nothing else. 

[Two pops. Earplugs are removed, Noone gasps, audio is completely clear]

OTTO: It’s alright. You’re back. Safe and sound, as promised. 

NOONE: …Did…did it work? Were details glued back together?

OTTO: Some. Though many pieces are still missing… and this continual mention of headaches concerns me. I’ll look into possible causes and see what can be done. For now; the Bathhouse, you were inside, right?

NOONE, narrating: Yes. And, there was steam hung in the air, making it hard to see anything but… shapes. The shapes of… Bathers, unrobed and- unmasked. Some levered away, some crouched in the water, others huffed the sauna steam. The biggest… sat scrubbing himself with… [child struggling] with something that appeared alive. 

[distant splash, more struggling noises, scrubbing]

NOONE: Creeping through the steam, I hid behind a bucket [splash, child whines, growly mumbling] The big one… was before me, [Child yelling, growly voice] barely resembling a human. His- body was… raw and brown, and he rapidly repeated “Divide the grime from the divine” over and over. I suddenly realized wha- [splash, Jester struggling] who… the creature was scrubbing with.

NOONE: [Jester yells, scrubbing] It was poor Jester, sobbing and thrashing for his life. S-Stumbling in horror, I… I slipped on the slimey [squeak] tile and-

[all background noise stops]

NOONE: The whole room went silent, as they turned their heads… and began a haunting chant.

NOONE: (overlapping whisper) “Cleanse her, cleanse her!” Voices piled as their shapes stood and staggered into view, th-their bodies scrubbed into- raw spectacles, there was nothing I could do for Jester! So, I- I picked myself up, and ran for the door, but it was shut tight! [door clicking, whispers get louder] The Bathers drew near, arms reaching out, [more struggling] my hands grazed a crevice on the wall, which- which I slip- through just in time. 

[Whispers stop, door clattering, Dream!Noone breathing hard]

NOONE: There I stood in the storeroom, once more. The window was open [knocks on the door]- my one chance to escape. I climbed the shelves, [jars clinking] avoiding the jars and containers that filled the room with chemical stink. 

[knock, door breaks down]

NOONE: Glancing back, I saw the monster, standing in the broken door frame- Jester’s limp body under his arm. 

[clanking]

NOONE: His… wart-covered hand reached up, [Growl, Dream!Noone yelps] grabbing my leg, violently pulling me away, [shelf creaks] and all I could do was reach in hope, [creak] my hands grasped a jar full of white liquid, [creak, yelp] and as he ripped me down-

[Entire shelf breaks]

NOONE: The jar followed. 

[Glass breaks, Bather roars & groans. Everything goes quiet]

NOONE: The liquid covered him, head to toe, unleashing a cloud of gas that burned the very air, washing over me, sending me into darkness. …A strange satisfaction came from melting down that vile man. I wasn’t like that moth, searching for the light. I was quite… happy, surrounded by the dark. 

NOONE, finishing: Soon enough… I was back here. In the Copy. 

OTTO: …Hmm… A more intense, personally-rooted conflict this time, a desire to be clean- perhaps to wash away memories of an invasive experience that your anxiety is fixated on. Yet, what bemuses me is your insistence on actuality; claiming material presence of others, and environment. 

NOONE: But, didn’t you say I could be sharing dreams?

OTTO: Yes, but that’s a different phenomenon. We must prescribe further research. I will need to begin nightly tests and observations to aid in reaching differential diagnosis. 

NOONE: Experiments! Do we have to, Otto?

OTTO: They’ll help you feel better! And that’s what you want, isn’t it?

NOONE: …Well… yes. Of all things, it’s the sound of mum saying “Ni-night” I miss most. 

[shifting as both get up]

OTTO: The stone becomes a little boulder!

NOONE: Pardon?

OTTO: The answer! To Jester’s joke! It’s an old one. 

NOONE: (whispering) The stone becomes a little boul… Oh, [giggle]

OTTO: Now, before you pop off to bed, [ceramic scrape] pick out another colorful delight for being such a good girl. 

[ceramic click, wrapper crinkling]

OTTO: Sweets, for my sweet. 

[Click]

[Outro plays] 

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[verytallfox]

Okay, first ever Tumblr post! Not sure if anyone will see this, but this is about the podcast The Sounds of Nightmares, set in the world of Little Nightmares. Specifically I’m looking at Chapter 3.

BIG SHIT

So to those of you who’ve listened or heard what happens, holy fuck right?! There’s some pretty big revelations (stuff theorized for a while certainly but never outright confirmed) in the episode. For one, it knocks the whole “it’s just a dream world” thing out of the park. Noone physically vanished from her world for a moment. I am certain that the Ferryman’s riddle is responsible for that.

Otto’s disgraced mentor published a paper in which he posited the existence of other worlds and other centers of reality. This professor suggests that their own world might be “secondary” in the cosmic hierarchy of existence. This is outright transdimensional or multiverse shit right here and I love it so much! It makes sense to me in that these children who are so alien to this world would end up there, though I also believe that there were regular people there too (and kids), at least formerly.

SMALL SHIT

Additionally, this is one of the first times we’ve heard the monsters of this other place speak, or at the very least coherently. Not just the Ferryman, who is called the Candleman predominantly, but also the shopping mall.

The shopping mall is the third location that we know if that’s suggested to be alive. The Maw is only indicated through reading Word of God stuff from Tarsier and the imagery that it must “feed” or must not perish. With the Signal Tower or Transmission or Flesh Walls or Black Tower, what have you, we see this evidence explicitly.

Back to the abandoned shopping mall, which is what they’ve named it on the wikia for Little Nightmares! It’s not clear if it feeds on anything at all or how. I will also say that I’m a sucker for a tragic beastie, which is the vibes that I’m getting from this being. However, I don’t think it would be good for Noone to have stayed there with it, even if it always treated her well.

The shopping mall appears to be suffering from serious mental health issues and is horribly lonely. It is desperate to have someone else stay with it, and also appears to be aware of the common fate that befalls children outside its walls.

So you know what, I’m gonna choose to believe that while it’s certainly dangerous the mall doesn’t mean children harm. It’s both incredibly lonely and entirely powerless to stop anyone who’d willingly stay with it (or be forced to stay) from being taken.

I’ve wondered if anyone else was somewhat hoping for least one friendly giant to appear in the Nowhere. Alas, this “friendly” giant is miserable, a little unstable, and totally powerless to save the company it desperately craves.

It actually reminds me of Six being trapped and warped within the Tower. There seemed to be no real benefit to that place in keeping her there other than maybe controlling Mono more easily. Maybe the Tower wanted her to stay too. Who knows!

The last thing I wanna cover is (drumroll) THE FERRYMAN! God I love this character. What’s so interesting to me about him is that he doesn’t appear to be running on a single base desire like most of the other adults. That suggests to me that he may never have been human in the first place and that he’s also directly working for the otherworldly entities of the Nowhere.

He’s definitely trying to draw Noone further in and I believe the riddle he told her is part of a ritual or incantation to lure her further in. Either she will continue out of curiosity, a desire to get better (not realizing it’s a trap), or if she resists she won’t a choice once it’s fully taken hold in her. The route I think this is going is that Noone will be pulled over physically for longer and longer, with the world becoming more and more clear, until she can no longer return. Her home reality may now be but a dream that she’s no longer on the same wavelength of to be able to return to.

Anyway, that was a lot of writing lol! Props to anyone who makes it to the end. Please feel to share your own ideas in here and thanks for listening!

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[hedonistbyheart]

Frantic, random observations about the first two episodes of the Little Nightmares companion podcast (SPOILERS):

- Otto - the Councillor who insists on a name because his consultation room is a place of trust - doesn't like numbering kids (!!) Like his colleagues above him do.

- he pronounces Noone "noon"

- she smells sausages that have gone bad in her dreams

- she had a wilted red flower overflowing with bugs

- FERRYMAN SIGHTED!

- Noone calls the ferryman the candleman and Otto knows him as the ferryman from his "beloved Cece/Sissi??" (I swear if that's a nickname for Six I'm going to lose my mind)

- Otto gives Noone candy after every session they have (eye emoji)

- Noone talks about being bullied in school and Otto commiserates

- Noone had an illness they call "water sickness" that she is famous for recovering from, but she feels worse than before

- she meets two children in her dreams, one called Jester who can't remember the punchlines to his jokes, like he's missing part of himself.

- there are references to more monstrous adults, a chained lady making mechanical people and a man in a bathhouse. (The first one being a reference to the mannequins in the hospital maybe?)

I'll probably catch more listening a few more times~

#little nightmares podcast #the sounds of nightmares #is a mouthful so I'll use the acronym #I'm so hyped about this I'm vibrating!! #TSON #little nightmares

[mickeys-malarkey]

So, I Think I Know Who Ruth/Noone Is

No, I don't think she's Six nor Alone. But I don't think she's a totally new character like Otto/The Counselor (who, by the way, I noticed upon my relisten also identifies himself as “The Counselor” in his first audio log; an incredibly weird decision for one counselor in an asylum full of other counselors that he mentions constantly to make if it has no significance), either. And, I'm sorry, but this will mean that she is yet another poor child who doesn't get a happy ending.

Point One: Her Name

We… we know that Ruth's other name is “Noone,” not “Six” nor “Alone,” guys. That alone is proof that she's neither of them, just like how knowing Otto's other name is “The Counselor” alone is proof against the theories that he's either The Doctor or Mono/The Thin Man.

From what I can tell, it looks like people who've lived in both worlds get a Human Name and what I'll call a “Nowhere Name” or a “Nightmare Name.”

“The Janitor” is for sure Roger's in LN1.

“The Doctor” seems to be “that celebrity doctor” from TSON's in LN2.

“The Counselor” is for sure Otto's in TSON and potentially LN3 if he shows up there.

“Noone” is for sure Ruth's.

Some might choose their Nowhere/Nightmare Name, some may be bestowed it, but it certainly looks to me like the only time someone gets multiple Nowhere/Nightmare Names (excluding The Candleman/Ferryman because, from what Otto said at the beginning of Ch5, he's like literally some sort of Eldritch god or personification of an abstract concept or something who probably doesn't even have a concrete True Physical Form seeing as he's described very differently by mythologies all over the world throughout history, “‘The Guardian At The Threshold,’ an archetype that parapsychologists have obsessed over for centuries. A mythic entity who's appeared in the stories of innumerable cultures. No matter their description, his roll is always the same: to confront anyone who dares cross into unseen worlds . . . The Candleman. The Ferryman. Indeed, The Guardian At The Threshold. An eidolon [googled definitions: ‘a specter or phantom; a ghost or elusive entity; an unsubstantial image; an image or representation of an idea; an apparition of some actual or imaginary entity, or an aspect of reality’] on the inside, determined to keep. Me. Out.” So, I think we can just assume that, because he's an ethereal being, everyone who encounters him perceives him varying degrees of differently [I mean, just look how difficult Noone found it to solidify her perception of him enough to describe him in the first place] and, unless their perceptions just happenstance into matching up enough or they decide to call him by a name they heard someone else use, they all call him something different and therefore, to use Tumblr terms: he's Spiders Georg and shouldn't be counted) is specifically in the case of kids surviving to adulthood in The Nowhere. Because, then, they transition from having a “nickname” type of Nowhere/Nightmare Name to having a “title” type, like Mono (ain't no way his parents put “Mono” on his birth certificate, that's definitely a nickname) growing into The Thin Man (an incredibly weird title, but a title nonetheless 🤷🏻‍♀️).

Sisi could easily be Six, or Raincoat Girl, or Portrait Girl (more likely Raincoat Girl or Portrait Girl), there's evidence for all three (but stronger for Raincoat Girl and Portrait Girl) and Otto/The Counselor never mentioned whatever her other name is, only “Sisi.” But, as I said, we know Ruth's other name: Noone!

Now, there is an unnamed girl that Noone is a little too similar to for it to be a coincidence: Spoon Girl (aka Girl With Pigtails, aka Nosebleed Girl, aka Hospital Girl, whatever you wanna call her) from the LN2 comics.

Point Two: Narrative Parallels & Matching Imagery

• Ruth/Noone: has an eye-looking “pea-size tumor on [her] right-sided amygdala,” as Otto said (“they maintain it's benign, despite the unusual ocular appearance”).

> Is “helped” to escape the asylum, Otto/The Counselor, and her tumor in the horrible, corrupting nightmare world that is The Nowhere by The Candleman/Ferryman after he brings her back and forth for a while, manipulating her into thinking The Nowhere is the lesser of the two evils.

• Spoon Girl: has a right-side nosebleed, which could mean Ruth/Noone was incorrect that living in The Nowhere would cure her of her tumor (not surprising, given that “ocular appearance.” Of course she couldn't escape it in its own domain) and now the cancer has spread to her nasal cavity (nosebleeds come up as a possible side effect of olfactory neuroblastoma, a cancer of the nerves that allow you to smell which starts growing in your nose and can spread into your brain. They could've researched that and thought it seemed perfectly reasonable that a tumor growing in the opposite direction would do the same exact thing)?

> Is “helped” to escape her hospital cell by an unseen person repeatedly pushing spoons under her door only to find that she's actually dug herself into an identical cell, all the way down to the hash marks she put on the walls presumably counting how many spoons she broke while digging. The door then opens to lure her to where she's found by The Doctor and, presumably, is either killed by him or “saved” from him by The Thin Man (if her Glitching Remains that Mono can find and absorb in the actual game are an indication that he attempted a rescue after the pair encountered each other through The Mall), likely turning her into a monster similar to Monster Six and locking her away somewhere until her tumor finally killed her.

Wouldn't it just wrap Ruth/Noone's story up in a positively hideous bow if, once she thought she'd escaped the horrors of her real life, she literally just found herself delivered into the hands of the very same man who traumatized her and got her face plastered all over the telly in the first place, where she basically lives through a metaphor that makes her realize what a terrible mistake she's made before she succumbs to whatever her final fate was (the latter option would mean also into the hands of someone so similar to Otto/The Counselor that the writers were able to use him to foreshadow how his part of her story would end)? 😬😢

If you need more proof, let's look at the TSON cover art…

Looks an awful lot like those bottom two hands are gripping pigtails, doesn't it (in exactly the wrong place for her to be Alone, might I add. Alone's pigtails stick up, Ruth/Noone's hang down)…? The fact they're also specifically covering the area where her bangs would be is pretty suspicious, as well… Now, let's compare her to Spoon Girl's concept art from the LN2 art book…

…Yeah, I think it's her. The face, head, shoulder, and collar shapes are much too similar for this series whose artists very much do not suffer from Same Face nor Same Body Syndrome when characters aren't meant to just be members of a faceless/masked/cloned throng. Hello, Ruth/Noone… R.I.P. 😔

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[random-ln-stuff]

My thoughts and theories on the LN Podcast: Episodes 1 and 2:

Putting all this under a readmore because spoilers for Episode 1 and 2 of The Sounds Of Nightmares:

General Stuff.

The way people talk and the way things sound make me think that the story is talking place in the past, I’d date it to somewhere around the Late 40s or Early 50s, so that’s another point to Little Nightmares taking place in 1948 specifically.

This whole thing is very interesting. The world isn’t corrupted. Children and Adults don’t hate each other. Otto acts like a human being. The corrupted stuff is in Noone’s head, but I don’t think it’s all a dream.

I think the dreams Noone is having, showing the actual world of Little Nightmares, are either visions of another world, or are visions of something that’s going to happen. Either this non-corrupted world is a separate one from Little Nightmares’ world (which I will call Nowhere for now thanks to the Little Nightmares 3 Description) or my personal theory that I will be going with until it’s disproved: The Non-Corrupted world IS Nowhere, but before everything goes to hell. Noone’s dreams are prophetic.

My reasoning for the Prophecy Theory was started because of 3 things, and there’s more evidence to come in specific episodes.

Names for people and places follow a very similar pattern to in The Nowhere. The Place the story takes place in is simply called: The Counties, similar to places like The Nest, The Maw, or the Pale City. Otto (an Adult) is supposed to be referred to as “The Counsellor”, but doesn’t mind being called by his real name, and Noone (pronounced Noon) is mentioned to have chosen her own name, which is implied to be the origin of most child names.

In Little Nightmares, many of the dreams that children have are prophetic, showing events that will eventually happen or vaguely warning of future events. Six has a dream of the Lady the same day she encounters her, Mono dreams of the door before he ever starts seeing it and begins heading towards it, RK has a nightmare related to The Granny and RCG has a nightmare about barricading a shed door with something banging on the other side, which happens later exactly as she dreamt it.

The dreams Noone has are rather symbolic. The first episode is the better example of the two, but both aren’t really real locations in Nowhere. They’re symbolic representations of The Maw and Guests specifically.

Ep 1:

In this, Noone ends up inside a massive stone giant, and encounters the Ferryman for a brief moment. Like literally just the Ferryman. Fully described in the coat, hat and melted face and later referred to as the Ferryman (and the Candleman, a reference to the cut Wax Bellman from LN 1, who was initially cut from the game and then was remade Into The Ferryman and got put back in).

After that she goes deeper inside the giant to find a giant clockwork structure that keeps the giant alive and maskless shadow children working on it, keeping all the gears moving. After that she finds a starved, rotting man chained inside a bedroom and then she encounters A Tall Lady wearing chains with a face that’s been purposefully stretched out to remove any wrinkles or signs of age.

After that is more travelling before Noone and a Child she encounters in her dream find a courtyard where thousands of screams can be heard from other people, chained up and starved in their own rooms like the one Noone saw before. Then the Lady in Chains shows up again, kills the other kid and Noone wakes up.

Like I said before, this dream is heavily symbolic, but it’s obviously about the Maw and The Lady.

First off, the Ferryman is here. No symbolism, no speculation, he’s here and that immediately draws connections to the Lady.

Then there’s the Shadow Children, or the Workers, who I don’t actually think represent Shadow Kids found in the Maw. The workers represent Nomes, who keep the Maw (or in this case the Stone Giant) running. Despite being seen as antagonists, the Workers don’t actually do anything to Noone in the dream. They head towards her when she draws attention to herself, which scares her, but they never actually attempt to harm her. They just want a closer look at Noone in all of their appearances and they immediately back off once Noone’s dress tears and a piece gets stuck in the gears.

The Lady in Chains is very, very, VERY obviously the Lady. They’re a tall woman who is desperately trying to appear younger, stretching their skin to remove wrinkles. The chains that the Lady can seemingly manipulate may also represent her powers, and I’ll get into that in a moment.

Then there’s the chained man and the thousands of others just like them. They may represent Guests or something like that, but I think they represent something else: The souls of both Guests and Children alike that the lady has consumed after countless Maw Feasts.

My logic for this is that both the chained people and the Lady’s representation in the dream specifically involve chains. The Chained People are chained to walls in specific rooms, rotting and starving, and the Lady In Chains is constantly surrounded by chains, with chains literally coming off of her clothing and flowing underneath her dress. The Lady In Chains can also control those chains, manipulating them however she wants to and using them to ensnare a child, pulling them away to kill them. Now if the Lady In Chains is The Lady, then the Lady In Chains’ ability to control chains probably represent the Lady’s own ability to control her unique soul stealing shadow magic. And if chains in this dream represent the Lady’s Soul Stealing Magic, then it makes sense that the rotting, starving, tortured souls all chained up throughout the Giant in the dream are people that the Lady consumed. That’s what the Lady stealing your soul feels like. You are chained up by magic, starved and tortured by the Lady slowly breaking down your consumed soul until you no longer exist.

And the Lady In Chains has THOUSANDS of people chained up. Think about that in relation to the REAL Lady. Horrifying.

Also with the revelation that the Chained up people are souls that the Lady consumed and is slowly digesting/using up, you can make the claim that the Giant in the dream may ALSO be a representation of the Lady. After all, those people are chained up and imprisoned INSIDE the Giant, and Nomes may keep the Maw running, but by doing so they also keep the Lady running just as much.

Ep 2:

Here we hear a tiny bit about Otto’s beloved Cici (Sici? Sissi? It’s pronounced See-See), who could honestly be a lot of things right now. A lost lover, a lost child, a lost friend, a lost family member, but the important part right now is that Cici had similar dreams, or at least encountered the Ferryman in some them. Definitely going to be important later.

This dream is a lot more straightforward. Noone finds themselves in a town with another Child she’s never seen before named Jester. They wander for a short while before Noone sees the Ferryman again, exactly as he was before, and runs, separating from Jester in the process.

Also while in this town, Noone sees “Contraptions that resemble fish carrying large, extremely fat people wearing wooden masks and brown robes towards a Market and Bathhouse” (Seems familiar, right?)

When Noone enters the Bathhouse, she finds dozens of monstrous people washing themselves, and finds one of them using Jester to scrub themselves. When that monster sees her, it immediately forgoes cleaning and goes straight for her, chasing Noone until she accidentally brings a bottle of cleaning chemicals down onto both of them, killing them both and waking Noone up.

If it wasn’t immediately obvious, those are Guests. Extremely fat, Masked people wearing brown robes. The masks are wooden instead of whatever the hell actual Guest masks are made of, but everything else matches. Even the fish shaped contraptions moving the Guests towards the Market and Bathhouse make sense once you realize that the Bathhouse represents the Maw.

In this dream, Guests are brought to the Maw to feast, but some things are slightly off. Instead of food and gluttony, the Guests we see are obsessed with cleaning and cleanliness, but they’re still very clearly guests, endlessly heading towards a place that claims to be able to fulfill their endless needs.

Even their behaviour when seeing Noone matches with real Guests. When a Guest sees Noone it immediately forgets about cleaning itself or the child it’s carrying and goes straight for Noone, just like how real Guests always go for the freshest meat they can see, forgetting about the 5 star meal right in front of them when they can see meat that’s even fresher and harder to come by (a live child).

Prophecy Theory:

But then, why is everything slightly different and more symbolic than any other child dreams we see. Most of them are pretty straightforward? And what’s with the Ferryman? If these are all prophetic dreams, why does the Ferryman seem to be aware of it all?

Well, first I want to point something out.

In all Child Dreams in the games, the most powerful entities seem to have have some sort of awareness or control of some sort over the dream. In Six’s dream, the Lady turns towards her before she wakes up, seemingly aware that Six is looking in her direction, and when Mono dreams of the Door in LN2, the TV next to him turns on, possibly because either the Thin Man or Broadcaster (two separate, yet similar entities) was aware of what Mono was dreaming about.

Now with that in mind, The Ferryman IS as powerful as the North Wind, another extremely powerful entity, so it makes sense that in a prophetic dream, the Ferryman could be still aware of things.

As for why these dreams are so symbolic and hard to understand when most prophetic dreams are pictures and images of what’s to come, it’s because these events are VERY far away from happening. The Lady doesn’t appear as THE LADY despite possibly having awareness because The Lady doesn’t exist yet. The world hasn’t fallen under the influence of the Eye, and we KNOW that the Lady and the Maw only start everything they do AFTER things like the Signal Tower are built, which happens presumably AFTER or RIGHT AS the world goes to shit.

Noone’s dreams are all symbolic because her dreams don’t even know how to process or comprehend what’s coming. It can’t show the Lady or the Maw because Noone’s dreams can’t look that far and that accurately into the future, so they create the Lady In Chains, The Stone Giant, The Workers, and a dozen other representations of what’s coming because it can’t say for certain what things are going to look like. Only a rough guess at the eldritch horror that’s coming. Vague representations of The Lady and The Maw and the Nomes that keep it running. Somewhat accurate but still slightly off depictions of Guests heading towards the Maw in droves, etc.

But the thing is, the Ferryman is there. And the Ferryman is unchanged. And the Ferryman is aware that Noone is dreaming. That means that Noone’s prophetic child dreams are depicting the actual Ferryman.

And that means that the Ferryman actually exists somewhere out there in either Noone’s world or whatever dark corner of the universe that the Eye resides in.

We know next to nothing about the Ferryman besides the fact that he’s as powerful as the North Wind and chooses to work for the Lady (mean that the Lady is probably just as powerful). And now we know one more thing about him: He’s existed longer than any of the other monsters besides maybe the North Wind. Probably created by the Eye itself.

And keep in mind, in the actual games, There’s evidence that a world was here before us. Viewers couldn’t exactly have built the Pale City after all. And in those buildings, all over the place, you can find evidence that the Eye has been here for a VERY long time, it’s symbol found on many things from before the world presumably went to shit. The Eye has always been here, it’s just that relatively recently it went from “passive influence of various types” to “Plunge the world in chaos and darkness”. So the Eye definitely exists at the time that the podcast takes place, and so does the Ferryman and presumably the North Wind.

Also: The Ferryman has apparently been in ALL of Noone’s recent nightmares, and he wants her to “give in to this world”. Does he want Noone to give in so he can drag her further into it and probably claim her soul for the Eye, or does he want her to give in so he can escape THROUGH her, possibly bringing the Eye out along with him?

Anyways that’s my somewhat coherent rambling. Enjoy.

#little nightmares #theory #the sounds of nightmares #podcast #overall it’s too early to tell right now but I think I have at least a tiny idea of what’s going on #I will probably throw this one to the side if I find any better theories

[columbocorners]

wips of otto and noone's refs ! some soft design notes OTTO DESIGN NOTES - I like to think the eye clothing is something he seemingly picked to try and be more connected to cece in some sense, a lot of spirals and areas were he is just littered in eyes that are scattered just as much as are his goals and motivations - his coat is meant to be a little too big for him, people theorize about the candleman / ferryman being like otto or that they're one in the same and while it is interesting, I like to think they're parallel to one another and I use that as a means of the coat being kind of like the candleman / ferryman's - mismatched sock supremacy !!!!!!! - broski carries sweets wherever he goes, I like to think he has a general sweet tooth because he kind of eats candies in the middle of the night while going over noone's session tapes, mans got have his girl dinner NOONE DESIGN NOTES - theys got a tooth gap because honestly with the way noone's voice actor speaks, I just think it's funky doo silly and makes it even more precious when she has moments where she smiles because you get to see her tooth gap reflect itself - traditional patient clothing but with a little more detail, just to make it kind of cozy + some shorts - I like to think she and otto have molees and that noone's moles are moreso on their legs or around their shoulders - dirty feet because you gotta be so real with me that noone just is an outside kid or likes to play with bugs or collects them like they explained with the moths so girlie is watching stick bugs dance you can't prove otherwise - and the scars are from nightmares, I like to think a little of the nowhere creeps up more than just mental / internal in them so it might've been from just times where nightmares got particularly difficult or she cut themselves at some points while running and otto often helped with cleaning up the scars / could be an accident from gardening or etc.

if anyone's got any questions abt their designs, lmk

#my art #digital art #artists on tumblr #myart #doodles #fanart #little nightmares #fanart on tumblr #little nightmares 3 #the sounds of nightmares #the sounds of nightmares otto #the sounds of nightmares noone #tson #ln3 #tson fanart #tson otto #tson noone #little nightmares 2

[littlenighttales]

If you’ve been here for a minute, you know the drill. Spoilers for chapter 4 of The Sounds of Nightmares, writing my thoughts as I listen to it for the first time (+ some extra edits in the parenthesis for extra thoughts on it after a few extra listens.)

So

Here we go. E4. Go. Go listen to this before reading this.

The Sounds of Nightmares

Two of a Kind

Yeah… so this one gets a bit philosophical at the beginning. Going on about duality and whatnot. Also have I mentioned how the main theme for this series absolutely slaps? Because it’s very good.

So Noone’s outside a reunion, but she can’t go in. It’s a bunch of happy kids outside playing and laughing. Otto gets Noone cake from it though (:

Apparently the room has a two way mirror, so they can look out but not in. Creepy. Otto spills the beans on the creepy disappearance. I’ll go ahead and mention I’m glad I don’t have to rewrite my happy ending story.

Obviously Noone starts freaking out about just straight up getting yeeted into what I’d dare compare to hell on Earth. She thought before they were just nightmares. But… nope.

Noone hates being alone, Otto reassures her a bit. He’s not seeming like a bad guy here lately. Just… having a bit of selfish-selfless motives. Doing sort of bad things for someone himself, but more for someone he knows. Does that make sense?

Wherever Noone was, there were happy kids! Carnival. LN3 teasers? But this is Little Nightmares, so I’m fully expecting the poop/fan collision within seconds.

The kids start talking more like teenagers, a bit weird. Suspecting we’ll see the “I don’t want to grow up” bit from Noone again. A kid named Rusty takes Noone for a ride- Ferris wheel. Also sky boats.

Rusty and his friends aren’t fans of being there. They’re basically slaves. Figures the bad news would come. Happy time lasted longer than expected.

Rebellion is planned. Noone gets assigned to lookout.

What the frick. Rusty sounding like he’s plotting his own death.

They stop talking about the “nightmare” to talk about going to the Nowhere. He opens up a little bit about CiCi. Noone figures out why Otto has been working with her like this. Finds out about his motives. She’s uncomfortable. But. He. Keeps. Pushing.

Noone mentions that the people of this world have distorted faces. Carnival guests a lot like the Maw guests. Definitely near or at the Carnival of LN3, I think

Magic show made Noone forget she’s a lookout. Mentions it’s like she’s under a spell. Ferryman is back?

Nope. It’s the carnival owner? He’s got no eyes. And a dummy made of a kid(?), maybe an adult? Noone says it looks like a smaller man. It sounds like it could be a Chuckie moment.

Noone tries so hard to warn the other kids.

And that dummy is definitely a possessed one. Dang, Chuckie moment.

Noone has a panic attack, some serious PTSD, sounds like ):

Someone hug the poor kid. Get that child a fluffy goat kid to hug!

Otto mentions the Ferryman by that name rather than Candleman. He’s all the more determined to go to the Nowhere. I know this is the same length as the other episodes, but it feels so much shorter!! Argh! It’s gonna be a long wait for next week! (Hey, future me here! Yeah, so I wrote this on the spot the day it was released, and yeah… still a long wait as of Saturday lol)

Good episode, but E3 is still the best so far imo.

We’ll probably see Noone get reverse-raptured (for lack of a better term) again next episode, maybe Otto finds his way to follow her.

#little nightmares spoilers #ln spoilers #the sounds of nightmares #tson #spoilers #episode four #two of a kind #little nightmares 3

[prof-ramses]

Hello! I come from the theory post you made about ep 3 of the podcast, I really enjoyed it!

About the Ferryman: I must absolutely agree with you. He is horrifying. His voice not being able to be heard is something that had me scratch my head a bit, I will not lie. I have been thinking about some possibilities and ultimately I have decided that the reason why his voice is not heard is because his speech is too inhuman to be comprehended/replicated in the real world, but can be understood fine in the Nowhere.

Might also explain why, whenever he's properly referred to as "The Ferryman", the recordings and tapes glitch. He cannot cross over into the other timelines physically: he can't exist somewhere outside of the Nowhere. Which is why calling him by a pseudonym, the "Candleman", is easier for Noone, maybe.

What I know for sure is that the man is ancient.

I love the idea of the ferryman being to "foreign" to the human world, it adds to how ancient he feels, like he's and integral and innate part of the Nowhere, almost like the lure of an angler fish. (On a side note, Noone's description of his voice reminded me of a fic called "His Little Nightmares" which is about how Roger started working at the Maw, because Roger describes the Bellman as sounding "like he was trying to speak while drowning in tar".)

Another theory I have is that the naturally powered kids (Mono, Pretender) are regular visitors, just from a similar, but different world, with the "function" of producing a large crop of powerful entities for the Nowhere to choose to "relocate".

#little nightmares #ln podcast #the sounds of nightmares #ln sounds of nightmares #little nightmares theory #ln theory #ln mono #ln pretender #Ramses answers

[grim-faux]

the fact that Otto is def another victim of the FerryMerry man is also tragic.

Forget Noone failing the "with the power of friendship we can vanquish the evil" trope. Otto should have been the one to get his stupid act together and really figure out how to get his luggage unpacked so he could save Noone.

but he couldn't let go of his sister and was too eager to try and try to reach the Nowhere, it blinded him. Messed everything up. We know his Cece is probably very much already gone, if not dead then she's some sort of unrecognizable horror. Not naming names....

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It probably wasn't the Ferryman intent to get like an associate in the other world which would supply a consistent supply of cargo, but he's probably not complaining.

And the fact that people trying to do the Sounds of Nightmares transcripts but are struggling to finalize them due to the FerryMerry man being an absolute nightmare to comprehend, should give you context to his absolute villainy.

#otto #noone #the sounds of nightmares #little nightmares #the ferryman #still not okay #lil nightmares #sons #sounds of nightmares #the candleman #otto couldnt let go of his past thats why we're here today class

[sulevinen]

HANG THE FUCK ON. chapter six is called ”the lonely way”. it is officially time to tell some of my theories

to start, the sounds of nightmares has been told to be a prequel to the third game (i have not confirmed this so i don’t know how true it is) and what are ”lonely” people?

they’re usually alone.

there were some speculations that Alone would be the girl with braids from the hospital in LN2 concept art and the comics, though that has been proven untrue. BUT if this were true, i think that could mean that Noone chose to, or was forced to, stay in Nowhere, and found herself in the hospital, which she escaped and then became Alone.

at one point last week i was like, wouldn’t it be fucked up if Otto got sucked into Nowhere through a TV and became Mono. and Six was actually CC, which is why Mono was so friendly with her from the get-go and saved her countless times. scrapped that idea because it was something my sleep deprived manic brain came up with at 2am, but now with the way the chapter is titled i’m having my doubts, though i still don’t quite find it believable.

and then my two theories on the ending:

the preferred and hoped, yet impossible one is that after Noone gets hurt due to Otto’s last experiment, Otto decides he is being selfish by putting Noone in meaningless danger, and finding CC is ultimately impossible, so he promises Noone that he’ll help her get better.

but this is the little nightmares universe, so it’s not possible.

the most likely one is that Noone gives into the dreams, leaves with the Candleman (Ferryman) and stays in Nowhere. there she becomes either a character from the games, or just another lonely kid. Otto’s fate i’m not sure of, many people wish he’d die or become a nome: but i think he either becomes one of the monsters due to being an adult (since adults are the antagonists in LN) or he stays in the normal world, or dies. so it’s not looking good for either of them.

really wish the first option was to happen but my hopes are SO low, that i just, don’t even know why i bothered to tell it.

#yeah i’m done rambling #surprisingly i haven’t checked much about this series on tumblr #haven’t looked at any theories or anything because idk i wanted to make my own conclusions #🫧 #the sounds of nightmares

[verytallfox]

THE SOUNDS OF NIGHTMARES CHAPTER 6: THE LONELY WAY OBSERVATIONS

The end is here, and the Counsellor begins his descent.

SUMMARY (LIVE):

The Counsellor will sink. He’s not in a good state of mind it seems.

Side Note: On another note I finished reading truly the most missed out on manga of our generation, especially in how it touches on all the injustices of our world directly and without room for misinterpretation. Eden: It’s an Endless World offered hope amidst all its despair. Warning though, it’s very fucked up. Some pretty serious content warnings apply to it and it is definitely for the faint of heart or really young people.

NOW BACK TO LITTLE NIGHTMARES!

Noone was gone longer than ever before, coming back only in the morning, appearing in the institute’s courtyard. The Counsellor takes this personally, believing the Ferryman let her go to fuck with him.

He’s looking into the Zaheer’s (Zahir’s?) Gaze. He’s gonna use Noone OH FUCK HE’S GONNA TURN HER INTO AN ASTROLABE! Yeah he’s not Otto anymore as far as I’m concerned. Thankfully, Noone has hands to throw at him.

She calls out the Counsellor on all his lies, and says that he hurt her more by hiding the truth about her tumor instead of telling her outright. He’s still trying to win her over. He says they can fight her monsters together. Also, he phrased this as her “letting him in.” It’s always been about him.

Oh, and he didn’t tell her the Candleman goes by another moniker. Noone is a smart kid and knows where he got that name from. She’s putting up resistance but he’s still pushing her. The Counsellor wants to hook her up to a machine that will “put her into a deeper sleep than ever before” and also allow him to join her. It’s noninvasive, apparently.

And now this arrogant fuck is saying there’s no going back! GOD DAMMIT COUNSELLOR! He’s forcing her to consume sweets which I’m suspecting have drugs in them.

Now we’re back to the dream sharing.

Gonna summarize this more briefly:

-Noone floats down through an endless dark

-She reaches a musty room with tons of fabrics piled up

-There’s a smell of candy apples and enchanting sad music alongside a machine whirring

-Oh and there’s mannequins without arms because of course there’s mannequins

-THERE IS A RACK PACKED WITH CLOTHES, INCLUDING THE PURPLE SUIT MAN’S CLOTHES

-I don’t recognize the other clothes but maybe they’re from other characters we’ve met

-There’s smaller outfits in a chest

-THERE IS A YELLOW RAINCOAT AND THE COUNSELLOR RECOGNIZES IT

-The Puppet is in here too, pinned down by rusty shears in his torso

-I don’t think he’s just a sentient puppet but it’s not impossible he’s a strange puppet given life (or used to be something that wasn’t a puppet)

-I lied I’m totally giving live reactions

-The Puppet is still alive and grabs Noone with his one remaining arm but she fights back, smashing a bottle into his head

-He stops moving after a bit and the music stops, so she hides in the chest

-There’s a mannequin standing in the doorframe with a dress on

-Her movements are stiff and mechanical, “her hair too shimmery, her lips too wet, and her eyes too glassy”; she’s not fully real or fully fake; she’s definitely made out of a person or outright used to be one

-She’s examining Noone’s killing of the puppet (it might not be dead just unconscious, but a number was already done to it)

-The mannequin lady opens the chest while Noone burrows herself deeper inside

-She describes the mannequin sewing clothes like how the Nowhere is sewing pieces of Noone back together, making her stronger and free

-She’ll be next soon so Noone holds the lid shut tight

Back to real-time stuff! The Counsellor is harmonizing frequencies as Noone reaches the “hypnagogic state” and he’ll be able to join her after that. The chest is opening too soon, which is freaking out the Counsellor.

Noone is now both asleep and awake at the same time. It appears she’s back in the chest while also present in the room. The Counsellor (I keep catching myself from calling him Otto lmao fuck youuu Otto) is pleased by this and wants her to wait. She’s now in a halfway place.

She’s sinking and floating, and there’s the brightest stars above or below her. This series is cosmic horror galore hehe! There’s a door in the distance, and the Counsellor is begging her not to go to the door without him. No matter which direction she turns, the door is there, approaching her. It’s “ancient, the color of twilight, made of knotted wood.” It’s alternatively liquid or both at the same time, and the frame is squirming.

Lastly, there’s no doorknob but there is A FUCKING EYE SHAPE IN THE CENTER! And I believe the door has opened.

Uh oh, the Ferryman is present. The Counsellor is asking questions.

THE FERRYMAN IS SPEAKING.

“A WORLD AS WIDE AS THE DEEP, AND AS NARROW AS THE WELL.”

“SINK, SINK INTO THESE TIDELESS WATERS.”

He’s welcoming Noone over, and now there’s stairs. Noone is enthralled with the beauty of the stars and the pulsing red moon… “no, not a moon, not stars either. They’re all eyes, too. Every size and shape you could imagine… watchful, shimmering, their light dripping into the dark mist.”

Apparently they are peering into Noone and like what they see. She asks the Ferryman to take the Counsellor with them. THE FERRYMAN HAS BEEN SPEAKING TO THE COUNSELLOR THIS WHOLE TIME. HE WANTS HIM AFTER ALL.

He is really hard to understand, but I can make out “BUT TO PLUNGE YOU MUST BE PUSHED.”

The eye in the door is changing, with a blur of faces. The door is drifting away now. The Counsellor is begging for information. The Ferryman appears to agree but the Counsellor has to figure it out for himself.

“SLEEP NOW RUTH (dunno what that means, was she called Ruth before or have I painfully misheard this guy). SLEEP INTO NOWHERE.”

Noone takes his hand.

The Counsellor begs to see his sister again.

Things are changing.

Everything is rushing away.

And then, silence. But wait, Noone is still talking. And she is concerned. The darkness is still here. That’s the secret, apparently. “It hides in this place. My body knew all along.”

And the sound of a door presumably swinging shut occurs.

Sorry for this atrociously long, half-conceived summary.

Noone has vanished and the Counsellor is genuinely broken up it seems, saying “not again.” He’s now questioning how his older sister could have left him behind.

5 minutes left y’all. HE COULD HEAR THE FERRYMAN. There’s a toll the Counsellor must pay to enter. He’s gotta sink lower and lower until he wakes up again, somewhere else.

LMAO he’s considering this a burden on himself. He believes the Ferryman has revealed another means to enter the Nowhere, and his toll will be paid in “bricks of fear.”

There’s another child here now. Ethan’s dreams have led him to the Counsellor. He’s sleepwalking. OH NO. DON’T DO IT. He’s gonna use the kid.

“I think I’ve just found it.”

“And tomorrow, together, we’ll dream, and dream, and dream, until we sleep again anew.”

He’s giving Ethan a sweet too. There’s definitely something in the candy. “Sweets for my sweet.”

And that appears to be it. Goddamn, more answers than questions, yet I’m also content I think? This could only ever end in some fucked up way, and it has.

THOUGHTS:

There’s a cycle here. I think the Counsellor has to pay the toll in children to enter the Nowhere.

The Ferryman does appear to serve the Eyes directly. I love his voice so much. Also, Noone was existing in two places at once, it seems. The dream gradually turned into reality and took her entire body out of her world. Farewell Noone, may you survive your trials in the Nowhere!

And it appears that they’ve explicitly hinted CiCi is Six after all. I think the repercussions of the Counsellor’s desperation are going to have an impact on the upcoming game. ALTERNATIVELY (just saw someone suggest this) she could be the Raincoat Girl from Very Little Nightmares. It’s possible as well that Six once had a yellow rain jacket as well. I’m torn between thinking which one she could be.

EDIT: I’m more convinced that CiCi is the first kid with the raincoat in VLN or that the raincoat has had other owners besides her and Six, given that there’s a portrait in the Maw of someone with the Lady wearing it (or something similar).

He may indeed be the person in the mirror after all! All he has to do is make dark sacrifices to these twisted things, and “a quarter will be granted.”

I’m not sure how but I think it’s implying either that the Counsellor is accelerating or improving the process to send kids to the Nowhere; the process happens more often than we realized; or they’re being directed to him so he can pay his way to the other side. Maybe it’s a combo of the three, or maybe it’s none.

I am certain however that the Counsellor is now in service to the Nowhere. Also there’s no fucking way he’s smart enough to realize he’s being played lmfao! Who knows, maybe they’ll be content to let him in without twisting him apart to see his sister. However, if Six really is his sister then one, I don’t think the Nowhere wants to let her go, and two, she can eviscerate him with her teeth or newfound powers. If it’s Raincoat Girl, uh that’s not gonna have a happy ending no matter what.

I also suspect that CiCi is still a child over there and has been all this time, assuming (gonna say this a lot lol) that she is still alive and/or that she’s Six or Raincoat Girl.

God I am so stoked for the next game.

CONCLUSION:

I love this podcast. I didn’t expect it to turn into an explicitly cosmic horror (perhaps cosmic horror lite) tale full of the consequences of being unable to move on or heal from the past. I’m not gonna blame the Counsellor for still suffering from that, that’s the most natural thing that’s happened in this whole damn story lol. Yet his obsession has cost the safety and possibly the life of at least one child, with more likely to follow.

What a dark, quirky, twisted little story! I actually kind of love the Counsellor as well as hate him! I know friends who will find him insufferable, and I think other friends will find him disturbingly charming. He’s a great character overall. And Noone just blew my expectations away. She’s an awesome character and I hope there’s some hope for her wherever she’s going.

Anyway, this has been very fun to share with all of you who’ve taken the time to read these! I’m not super ingrained into Tumblr but I’ve enjoyed sharing my reactions to this series on here.

Hope there’s some good nuggets of info to take away in this, I hope you enjoy the last episode for yourselves, and I hope y’all have a lovely day or night! Looking forward to where this all goes from here.

See you next time, whenever that may be!

-Fox

#the sounds of nightmares #the ferryman little nightmares #little nightmares #noone #tson #eden it’s an endless world #I mention it briefly #it’s a terrific manga that’s painfully topical to current events #anyway I loved this episode #thanks everyone for joining my ramblings

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Also, so far The Sounds of Nightmares seems to imply that all the events of Little Nightmares are kids sharing dreams while actually living in a reality more similar to ours. I suppose this would explain some questions we had (such as, for the simplest example, where do the kids come from if there are no normal adults) because those kinds of things happen in dreams without much logical reason, but I admit it would be incredibly disappointing to find out that everything we experienced so far was not an actual, consistent word with its own workings and worldbuilding, and instead was just a collection of semi-connected dreams. Even if they share a sorta similar reality that's seemingly tied together by the Ferryman/Candleman, there's not really anything more that can be proven as consistent for that world. Unless, this world is still real (note the emphasis on Noone feeling things as they were real) and is some kind of parallel world, or something. I still don't like the inclusion of a "normal" world into the equation of LN lore, but the "parallel worlds" sound better than "it's all just dreams" at least.

That is, if Sounds of Nightmares are even 100% canon, and not something with dubious levels of being canon, like the comics (unless there was some confirmation of them being canon that I missed??)

#little nightmares #the sounds of nightmares #little nightmares II #ln six #tson noone #ln mono #idk what other tags to add idk #little nightmares III #i guess

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Little Nightmares roleplay discord

If you're into little nightmares and Roleplaying then please check this server out (IF ANYONE WANTS TO PLAY THE FERRYMAN/CANDLEMAN, THE THIN MAN OR OTTO THEN PLEASE JOIN WE NEED SOMEONE TOO)

Little Heartaches, a little nightmares AU

After Six dropped Mono into the signal tower he became a slave to it, the thin man ensures that he can't leave the city. His only hope for escaping is a little girl called Noone, who saw something in the tower, something she wasn't supposed to see.

Six is far away from Pale City, aboard the Maw. She has no memory of Mono as all the pain and suffering Monos "betrayal" caused had made part of herself separate and become Shadow Six, who keeps Six from the truth and tries to distract her. Like bringing her to the Maw so she can find her long lost brother Seven, the runaway kid.

Otto continues his search for his long lost brother and sister (Mono and raincoat girl). He claims he's a specialist in dream psychology, and that he can cure nightmare disorder. Which gives him a steady supply of children

What we offer!

100s of RP channels with pictures pinned

Plot driven RP, this server will have on overarching story which everyone can be a part of, whether they're using ocs or cannons

The Sounds of Nightmares characters are claimable and we are(as far as I know) the first ln server to include them in the lore!

You can RP in and out of the Nowhere, patients and psychiatrists are allowed. Gatekeeper ocs are too!(a gatekeeper is basically like the candleman, taking kids across the threshold bla bla bla)

A welcoming and kind community (even if it's small)

We hope that you join, see you there!

https://discord.com/invite/XuvFfAbHMP

If there's any issues with joining pls PM me for help

#little nightmares #roleplay #oc #writing #discord rp #the sounds of nightmares