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tbgkaru-woh · 7 months

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I love your Nie Huaisang, he's so pretty!! I love the scheming pretty man so badly. Are there any Huaisang ships you like? I don't necessarily ship Wei Ying and him but I do think they got drunk and made out at least thrice

thank you ♥♥ the usual SangCheng was a ship i really enjoyed alongside chengxuan, jiang cheng has two hands and all that (well, actually i don't really do poly-shipping, it's more that i like those ships for him in different periods of time or scenarios, for someone who doesn't seek or like romance, jiang cheng is BOOKED.) just nhs pulling jc out of his shell, jc begrudgingly following nhs or listening to his wet dreams or something equally ridiculous, nhs being the same loud but compassionate presence that wwx used to be. them getting lcose during gusu days and then parting and then later down the line, with everything that happened, huaisang is still there, still the same, the one stable thing that hasn't change and jc would just kinda fall into his arms for an ounce of comfort, knowing nhs won't tell or make it weird. i really enjoyed wwx and nhs' friendship and they have big fuckbuddy energy before they go in their respective directions (wwx to lwj and nhs just stays free but "occupied" with different partner each time). really enjoy the shameless cockiness of them, i had a fic planned that's basically just big orgy of everyone to "strengthen" the alliance bonds and seeing as there's members like lwj, jzx and jc, wwx and nhs were the ones to brea kthe ice and get it all going :D i had a lot of fun with that idea but sadly it didn't get far as i'm already neck deep in near-done WIPs I can't seem to finish :')

i've never quite gotten into niecest and not because i'm against fictional sibling ships, i don't see the IT factor in the dynamic on a romantic way despite really enjoying them being protective of each other and understanding the visual appeal. I guess I enjoy them more where each of the brothers have their quirk, one is this playful slut (/postiive) and one bagged the forbidden fruit that is lxc, it just makes up for a fun dynamic :'D but i think i may be convinced if someone brings up a good idea

i also like nhs and jgy in their dnyamic BEFORE nhs learned about jgy's schemes, i liked jgy being the only peer for nhs and being gentle with him, even though nhs is this little lordling and jgy is basically their servant of sorts (SORRY IF I MISUNDERSTAND THE CANON DYNAMIC BUT THIS IS THE DYNAMIC I LIKE) and nhs talking to him like peer-to-peer and opening up and them covering for each other from nmj etc. i really enjoy that ;v; nhs needing jgy more than jgy needs nhs but it's fine, jgy is a giver. going from this comfort to how they grew apart, with jgy gone nhs's quarters grew quiet and cold and then jgy not acknowledging him much once he made it into jin's high status, nhs learning of jgy's crimes later on, it's just the good kind of heartbreaking.

my guilty pleasure is also nhs and jzx, not only because i love zixuan, but also because i enjoy the idea of the two lordlings meeting up since childhood for pleasantries and nhs always giving jzx's bad behavior the benefit of the doubt because not only is he not judgmental, but also he can understand where jzx is coming from. nhs trying to loosen jzx up as someone who's his peer and not "beneath" him, be open with him and often poke at his prudish inexperienced side when it comes to relationships :') nhs slowly including jzx into his problem trio (wwx-nhs-jc), him and wwx making jzx do something illegal during their gusu days and then having a laugh riot about it. idk, i feel like nhs is greatly compassionate when it comes to this and also i think he could acknowledge jzx's qualities or his good looks. publicly, in front of his friends, often.

#nie huaisang #jiang cheng #jin zixuan #jin guangyao #wei wuxian #nie mingjue #hcs #hc

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madtomedgar · 1 year

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jgy and wwx genderbend thoughts pls :D

@stripedroseandsketchpads is the authority on f!Wei Wuxian, frankly. Just go read everything she's written on it.

f!Wei Wuxian is androgynous, but in that way where you're not sure if she's gay or just plays sports, during the CR arc. She grows into her butchitude as the Yiling Laozu. A lot of Wei Wuxian's Thing is that she is an abject failure at being a girl, and instead of beating herself up about this and trying and failing to conform, she leans into it like "haha aren't i so horrible haha watch this." I like Wei Wuxian with endometriosis where like. She managed it using her core, it was fine. And then no core. But hey, look at all of this excessive yin energy her body is spewing! look at all this thick black blood that is extra good for doing demonic cultivation! yeah ok she's like. in pain all the time or whatever but it's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine that's what booze is for!

She and Jiang Cheng have a weird thing for multiple reasons because like. There's the looming possibility that the Jiang parents will betroth them, and also it's kind of extra embarrassing that this girl is showing up Jiang Cheng and it's not Madam Yu's daughter!

But. Yeah. Canon Wei Wuxian has some gender non-conformity fun going on with the like. "I gave birth to this child" and the way he acts with Lan Wangji. So, f!Wei Wuxian should also have some gender fuckery along those lines.

And now, f!Jin Guangyao, my beloved. The best character. 100/10. She. Unfortunately I have so many thoughts about her but they aren't... consistent. Like. There are multiple f!Jin Guangyao's in my head. In some, she's a very... proper lady but in that like. sexless way. In some she is very gender ambiguous in that like. Beautiful Youth way, and has at different times cross-dressed and presented herself as a man. In every version though, she strives to present herself as sexless but everyone reads whatever sexuality they want onto her and she HATES it.

There needs to be a whiff of gender failure about her, despite, or perhaps because of, intense efforts to be perfect. A lot of this, for her, comes out in her failure to have more than one kid (she makes sure to lose them all after the first one, which she was too late on), and that one kid dying young, and her... ok look. I think f!Jin Guangyao is a really bad mom in that she, despite her best efforts, wants nothing to do with her son (carrying and then having to mother a baby she knows is an incest baby while Qin Su is So Happy. Yikes!). She hates herself for it because her mother was so good. Yeah.

She is I think more ruthless than in canon in some ways, her hands are dirtier. I think f!Jin Guangyao does kill Rusong, and I love that for her. I also like it if she kills Qin Su (a man, because this isn't a canon with marriage equality sorry). And like. She hates herself for it and grieves them but she does it.Honestly the idea of f!Jin Guangyao first occurred to me during the Guanyin Temple scene where Jin Guangyao and Lan Xichen are "discussing" Qin Su and Lan Xichen goes "what do you mean you had no choice, it was your marriage," because. Imagine. F!Jin Guangyao just. Looking back at that like. Are you for real right now. But yeah because she would have even less power, she would actually wind up doing a lot of the things Jin Guangyao is accused of but didn't do, or had mitigating stuff for (like not sleeping with Qin Su. Much harder if it's the wife who has the information there). The whole Thing with Jin Guangshan making Jin Guangyao be involved, even peripherally, in his brothel escapades, is so much worse if Jin Guangyao is a woman, and the way she kills Jin Guangshan is... so so so good. Clytemnestra and Medea and Orestes are giving her a standing ovation. I do think she has a like... deep-seated envy and resentment of men for their social position, the power they wield, the casual violence and humiliation they subject women (her) to.

Outwardly she is extremely poised, but almost no one would call her sweet. She's very nice, and very helpful, and frighteningly competent, but she isn't warm. She is good at being like. Vaguely threatening and frightening but in a very... like she hasn't actually done anything but smile and wish you a pleasant journey. But you get the Feeling that you should maybe back down about whatever before you wake up in 17 different dumpsters, yknow. In a way that canon Jin Guangyao doesn't... have to quite as much. If that makes sense.

Lately I have fallen in love with the idea of her adopting the official's cap (slightly fancier) specifically as chief cultivator as a like. Deliberately gendered power-symbol, a la Queen Elizabeth I signing her name Elizabeth Rex (rather than Regina) and calling herself a king or a prince. Oh, and because in any f!Jin Guangyao au Lan Xichen is also a woman, if anyone even looks at her wrong, but especially if any man makes untoward anything at Lan Xichen, he winds up dead and you can't prove a thing :). I love her.

#untamed stuff #shameless jiggy apologism #long post #rule 63

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angstymdzsthoughts · 3 years

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Heyy!

In the lqr exposes everything after nmj's death prompt.

What if lxc pulled a qinghejun and saved jgy in exchange for lifetime seclusion for jgy and went to seclusion himself because he couldn't stand the looks of disappointment and pity everywhere he went and he had no desire to live and follow his duty.

The whole cultivation world knows jgy is a schemer who murdered several people to achieve the things his father required him to do. Some say his ambitions would have gone farther than he was able to achieve in these years because why would he kill, not one, but two heirs of the lanling jin sect?

Lqr doesn't know what to do. He had seen and suffered the consequences of this once but he is not sure he would be able to suffer them another time, knowing that lxc was raised by him. Several years ago he had been very much against the bond between his second nephew and wwx. During the battle of the nightless city he had feared if wangji would have followed his father's footsteps while the whole cultivation world marched against wwx.

But that would've been like his brother wouldn't it? Both of them, late madam lan and wwx were framed for the crimes they did not commit by other people. Both of them had to die before the truth was exposed.

Lxc and jgy weren't the same. Jgy was exposed for every crime he did. His nephew chose not to believe the claims of truth. His nephew painted jgy as a victim.

Moreover wangji never followed in his father's footsteps. Maybe it was the small gossips of the elders and reminders he gave to never become like their father. Maybe it was the love for his mother and seeing firsthand how she desired to leave the prison she was made to wither away in. Maybe it was the maturity and understanding and loving wwx's nature for being a wanderer and being free of chains. His second nephew didn't turn out like his father. Neither did he go into seclusion when his child needed him so much.

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Now now, I really don't think nhs is going to let this one go. Lxc has fully broken his bond with his brother if he does this. In the canon, he had firsthand seen what jgy did because jgy took him captive. Here he didn't, all jgy did was plead to him because he knew he had no real power here. So the chances of lxc taking whatever support he had for jgy(he did play his customer service smile for a reason) and pulling this are quiet there.

Lwj is now, unfortunately, made to take up the burden of his sect. Lqr would help lwj because he is the only one who knows what burden it is to take the sect in these conditions. Also lwj's condition is worse because he was directly affected from the crimes his brother's sworn brother did.

But nhs is not letting it go. Add some internal lan sect conflict started by jgy which would've costed lwj's life if nhs wouldn't have put his plan in action and revived wwx to follow it.

Ohh this would be great fun to play with. I can see LQR and LWJ realizing exactly how dangerous JGY is and wanting him as isolated as possible. He has no servants, is allowed no paper or ink to write, is denied any sort of musical instrument, and the guards are kept at a far enough distance so they cannot hear him speak.

Yet somehow he manages to get a spy within the sect. The spy leaves sweet letters to LXC and leaves poison in LWJs tea.

#reply #jin guangyao #lan qiren #lan xichen #lan wangii #mdzs

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gloriousmonsters · 2 years

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character ask game 💚🤍🖤 - so uh, talk to us about Lan Sizhui? 😁😏

one aspect about them i love

Honestly I did not spend that much brainspace on LSZ before writing trust me as though I were your enemy, which is a very *cough* specific and premise-based take on his character, so... speaking from my brief newfound interest in the character, I love the untapped potential of his character? Most of what we see is very surface level--not to say his kindness and proactive Good-Boy-ness isn't genuine if it's not backed by the correct impulses, I think on one hand he genuinely values being considerate and careful and kind (and him being the only Lan junior who tries speaking gently to 'Mo Xuanyu' when he's just acting deliberately 'crazy' still gives me feelings. i, like wwx, have the 'such a nice kid! how tf did the Lan sect spit HIM out?' reaction 😂)

...but on the other hand, 'Lan' Sizhui has no real choice but to be a Good Kid. He's kind of adopted into the Lan family, but his main point of adoption is Lan Wangji, and it happened during the years LWJ was thoroughly destroying all of his Good Boy rep within (parts of, at least) the sect--something I thought about but didn't manage to work thoroughly into the fic was that LSZ probably deals with a lot of spillover dislike by, say, the 33 elders that were severely wounded by LWJ. And then there's all the shit he'd just barely remember... In conclusion, LSZ pretty probably grew up with the impression that Something Bad happened when he was a kid but nobody will talk about it, and dealt with feeling like he was on Thin Fucking Ice with a significant portion of the Lan elders without knowing why. Perfect recipe for a kid to repress any 'bad' feeling or behavior he might ever have!

So... what's under that surface? Especially when he starts learning about the truth of everything that happened at the end of canon, and learns where he actually came from?

Fun to think about.

one aspect i wish more people understood about them

I am not familiar enough w how people usually characterize him to really speak on this...

one (or more) headcanon(s) i have about this character

something that I did decide on during writing is that while he's not disliked by many people in the younger generations, he really doesn't have any friends except for Lan Jingyi. He doesn't get close to people easily, so it takes someone as enthusiastic and bad at reading subtlety as Jingyi to hang in there and earn the position :P

one character i love seeing them interact with

Tbh I'm not immune, his interactions with WWX and LWJ when he's a little kid hit me right in the heart. It's especially adorable in CQL, when he's sitting in LWJ's lap and you can see LWJ getting baby fever in realtime. They may not be the best guardian-ish figures, but his connection to both of them is still obviously important to him, and seeing the beginnings of it is still painfully sweet.

one character i wish they would interact with/interact with more

Honestly there's a lot I wish here! I'd like to see something of him traveling with Wen Ning (I've heard there's a movie, but also that it sucks, and based on Fatal Journey i believe it); I'd like to have seen more one-on-one interaction with LWJ when he's older, instead of always just being part of the Group of Juniors. After writing this fic, I'm also wishing that he'd ever really interacted with SMS, lol.

one headcanon i have that involves them and one other character

Separate from any fics i may or may not be writing < <.... I think he had a good, if not at all close, relationship with Jin Guangyao, and looked up to him a little bit (lsz: wow you're repressing EVERYTHING and you're doing it so well i wanna be you when i grow up). He felt a little guilty about it because while LWJ never said anything specific, he didn't seem to like Lianfang-zun much, but whenever LSZ saw him (at conferences and meetings in Jinlintai, or during JGY's frequent visits to the Lan sect) JGY was always super nice and friendly, and jokes aside was modeling a type of poised strength that was very different from LWJ's uncaring-of-social-consequences conduct that LSZ, to say the least, did not feel like he was capable of.

(jgy, on his end, is having a 'wow what a nice kid how tf is he someone adopted by that rude boy lwj' moment)

#lan sizhui #character meme #paradife-loft

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opal-apples · 2 years

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anyone remember my speech and debate au well I do and I'm judging a tournament this weekend so I've got a lot thoughts under the cut. apologies for the jargon

ok jargon definitions in the tags

WWX: does policy because he's a brat (affectionate). loves it when people try to spread because he knows he can spread faster. if he does a speech event, he does impromptu & extemp because again he is Annoying (loving) (also i do extemp and impromptu bc i'm annoying too so. don't come at me.)

JGY: does policy because he's a realist. loves mind games. runs accessibility arguments because 1. they make him look good and 2. he hates people on big teams who think they're better because they have more resources than him. he does speech because he likes manipulation public speaking. i'm thinking persuade / info. he does extemp (see mind games) but not impromptu, he thinks he's better than the event (he is). i could see him thinking about running an protect sexworkers interp (DI?) but eventually decides against it

i think a wwx jgy policy team would be unbeatable bc wwx would give the most terrible bs case in the world and then jgy would make you feel stupid for thinking it's bs when it so clearly is. that's my hot take. also they both take everything personally but hide it well.

XXC: speech boy. IF he did debate he would do like LD but i don't see it for him. Does a lot of poetry and interps. The topics are all basic but he's such a good performer it doesn't matter. Doesn't think he's any better than anyone else (he is) and doesn't understand everyone in the circuit is a little bit in love with him.

SL: speech boy. would do debate but his want to hangout with xxc outweighs his interest in debate. does platforms because he has A Lot To Say. Crit because it's fun but also because it's pretentious. Thinks he's better than you (he's not)

Mianmian is a debate girl and i'm in love with her. queen of LD. good at running identity cases because debate is super sexist. she would be so reasonable and logical and friendly outside of round ok i'm done.

Yanli reads really beautiful poetry and interps. loses her chill later in her speech career and runs stuff on chronic illness and inaccessibility in speech due to it's stressful and demanding nature. (or at least i like to think she does)

XY: debate boy. would run purposefully annoying cases to twist his opponents' words. runs like 3 cases at a time so he can focus on the one the opponent didn't get to.

LXC is a speech boy and i love him a lot. does both interps and platforms. again the topics tend towards basic but he's just such a good speaker it doesn't really matter. one season he runs like an interp about absent fathers and everybody cries. doesn't do debate

if WN was on the team i think he would read like freaky dark interps. like they're good and he's very polite and positive outside of round but homeboy is REPRESSING A LOT

if JC and/or NMJ is on the team (which idk it's probably too theoretical/theatrical for them), they both take everything personally and do NOT hide it well. after like 10pm, NMJ cries whether he wins or loses (me too king). i don't see JC sticking around for very long except for his canonical pressure to compete with WWX in EVERYTHING

LWJ is not on the team (good for him!! wish that were me). he is however at almost every meet, first for LXC and later for WWX. likes to go over debate rounds with WWX if he finds them interesting.

WQ is not on the team she has better things to do

JZX is not on the team either god bless this boy. brings yanli coffee and doesn't know what's going on <3 (again. wish this was me)

anyway. thank you for coming to my tedtalk and i'm sorry for everything about this.

#right.#spreading: contraction of Speed Reading used to dump as much information into a speech as possible #policy: debate type that focuses on real world impacts. uses a plan. very fast and can spiral to purely theoretical arguments quickly #impromptu: speech type that gives the speaker 3 prompts. they have 7 minutes to plan and give a speech on the fly. usually funny #extemp: speech type that asks 3 current event questions. speaker has 30min to prep and 7 minutes to speak #persuade: speech type where there is a call to action from the audience to fix a problem #info: speech type that presents information on a relevant topic. no call to action #interps: speech events where the speaker takes a piece of published lit and performs it with an argument.#DI: dramatic interpretation. focuses on character development of an interpretive piece. usually sad #LD: lincoln douglas debate. can be very fast or not. supposed to focus on ethics and what is doesn't always :/#platforms: speeches that are written by the speaker. info and persuade fall here as well as crit #crit: has lots of names but rhetorical criticism is a critique of a piece of public rhetoric. like Is This Celeb Apology A Good Apology?#identity cases: debate cases that include the identity of the debater. im not an expert in them so don't want to speak too much for them #in short they're really important to diversifying the debate space #this is Niche Indulgent AUs Hour #brought to you by me a speech and debate kid #mdzs #jo talks #sorry again for everything about this #hmu if u have questions i guess #speech & debate au

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