i was being a completely sane person today (/s) and was creating a timeline tree for snm would anyone even be interested in that. and collecting my shipping thoughts (or specifics about them being a couple etc). know that i still consider my knowledge of the franchise as poor. its just tidying it up in my head so when i talk about something i can pinpoint a specific thing (i was too deep in fnaf theorizing so now i have to suffer thru a franchise that doesnt even have a canon)
in short/tldr the comics are the base that happened in every possible timeline and everything else is derived from that, happening after, except the cartoon, which shows some events the same way so that would be more intertwined; not everything is connected/within one timeline. and the cartoon is my most fav and where i see them as a true couple.
long rant ahead
on one hand i really like the time travel theory where its like comics -> ttg -> cartoon etc by them travelling back in time for that, however there are many holes especially thinking about their families and stuff so
i like the idea of things branching off. one branch is comics - htr - cartoon, as something more intertwined
second is comics -> ttg -> poker night 2 (since it references ttg events) (idk bout 1 i havent played/seen that)
third would be comics -> ttiv (or comics -> htr -> ttiv, i have no idea atm if bosco's is mentioned in the comics but it is in htr and mentioned in ttiv. ttiv is also set in the year it came out, so theres a huge gap inbetween ttiv and htr but i wouldnt say its where the ttg games happened!)
and i dont mean this in like a multiverse way, since the creator seems to dislike that, its simply just a very loose canon that differs with each installment (simply due to different people working on these imo. nothing too deep imo)
but the juicy part!! i even made brackets that im too lazy to remake digitally so i will just write it out for each bigger installment. im excluding poker night 1 as i havent played it nor watched much gameplay
M = married, BF = best friends (in all technically)
comics: M - unlikely; BF - yes absolutely
htr: M - possible; BF - yes
cartoons: M - i take it as canon here. BF - yes million percent
ttg all seasons: M - no; BF - yes.
poker night 2: M - not sure, implied dating, i take that as good enough; BF - yes
ttiv: M - absolutely not. not a couple at all. BF - they seem too tense, yes, but from my experience playing, their interactions were imo the worst in all of their media, so i wasnt buying it at some points
note - ttiv has to be like the straightest they ever were and i also see it in S.P.'s more recent work. im looking too deep into that, perhaps, but im just thinking were never gonna get anything similar to what we got from back in the 90s again, if theres any future projects
people are also saying they got married like 4 times and its making me a bit confused here. do people mean cartoon, htr dress up card, cake topper and tdph ring scene or am i missing something big?? because to me that is married once, other ones being just for jokes (first one as well but its less vague), and in the ttg games its so extremely vague i cant count that (being realistic here) that said its still fun to joke about them getting married several times, but in this case wouldnt it be more of a marriage per timeline?
and to end this, a personal tierlist
my most fave obviously is the cartoon. not only is it the easiest to work with for me, with the fast pacing and short watch time (but ofc i wish it was longer) i absolutely love how their relationship is depicted there, even if a lot of stuff there is just jokes, but if everything is a joke then its also fine to take everything as canon within this media, to me! like when haters say that people only take the wedding scene out of the intro and ignore the rest - as if the other stuff couldnt happen (isnt one of the shots them fighting a giant octopus, which they end up having an episode about too. like cmon. anything goes here) even if it was contained within this specific part of the franchise, im ok with calling them a couple here. and its S tier overall
another S tier is the comics. nothing else to say
HTR is like A tier to me, only taking off points because its soooo sloooowwww and playing it after watching the series took 3 years off my life immediately. otherwise gud game.
ttg is like A to B tier for me, because of some specifics and preferences but thats just me being nitpicky so, the games overall are good. A- it is. thats all
poker night 2 is fun, i watch the gameplay a lot lately when im too tired at midnight to do anything else, A tier
ttiv. oh how mixed i am about you. gameplay by itself and my first experience with the game - S tier. it made me so giddy more than one time and i kept wanting to come back until i finished the game fully. i dont mind the bugs, its just what i expect in VR games and even tho it made me a bit frustrated at times it wasnt all that bad. its also the only vr game i played for over an hour once and didnt get motion sick - the exception was the level at the store which seemed too bright and actually made me nauseous. which is a feeling that somehow comes back whenever i think about this game. what i dislike was the dialogue, while most of it was fun and fine, i had moments where i just burst out laughing, they (or max especially) were way too mean towards the player. i know its a joke and you could chalk it up to max being unhappy with us/jealous, but it got like, generally unpleasant very quickly. with stuff like good throw - "nice!" bad throw - *neverending insults* and the second was how painfully straight it was and like. the vibes i got from them two was like, oh theyre fed up with each other and my shipping self was just left quite disappointed. i did not get all lines during my gameplay which made it great but upon going thru every line manually after, i was just more and more uncomfortable with what they said in their banter. this drops the game to like C for me? maybe B if i squint. being generous. i also got sick of their talking animations over time... the models are fine just got to be too much. bonus points for max ragdoll physics tho. coming up with a conclusion that this is a completely separate timeline and has nothing to do with anything other than the comics and perhaps HTR. i talked so long about this one cause its the one thing that prompted all of this lol.
but its not that serious! i just knew this franchise for ages as "oh its the two animal guys that are married and its funny" and now that i got into it fully, i see a lot of the shippers are obviously daydreaming and taking things out of context - which is fun, i agree!! i also do that. but it just painted a completely different picture for me. so no. theyre not married, theyre not a couple, except for the cartoon, where its implied, which stays on top for me. but in ttg at least, they love each other, its not as romantic, but i can ship them there (so i ship them in the context of the cartoon and ttg basically)
anyway. nothing is canon for them, everything is canon for them, and everything they say or do is a joke so. its not that deep at all. they gay tho
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☀ What’s your rp pet peeve?
kisses ur typing hands for sending me one ♥ -- @resolutepath
I will take a little pebble out of my shoe and admit that being put on the backburner, under very specific circumstances, really puts me in the mood to simply wanting to put my muse(s) in a little backpack and move on.
This usually happens when we get hyper comfortable and there's no longer the need to instantly reply to what I sent, or sending me unprompted ask to develope two or more muses. It's heaven! It's a very good point we can reach. The relationship between two muses, be it romantical or platonic, is developed, so we can take it slower and chill out while we do our own things and they just run in the background like a Windows program.
While I'm sure that it's due to the comfortableness and people being comfortable with me makes me happy and just as comfortable with them, I have my little pet peeves about this state of things:
- We go from 100% to barely 5% in regards to talking about our muses. If the level fluctuates and it still happens sometimes, that's great! I appreciate the effort! I should disclose that changes, expecially if employed abruptly like this, put me in a very tense state of mind. It's something that I'm constantly working on, but that I would prefer a warning instead of a day/night change.
- A complete lack of engagement with the things that I'm posting about my muse. No more likes, or even a single aknowledgement to anything, which includes: OOC posts (understandable), headcanons (which contain useful informations, expecially for my muses partner(s)/familiar relationships, developing or not, so they're... kind of a big deal?), no longer sending any sort of memes, or very rarely doing so. I... really can't call this behavior anything other than a loss of interest, I'm sorry. Perhaps there's another kind of explanation for that, but until I'm explained why this happens and what else to call it, I will have to call it with a term that I know about.
- If, while this is happening, the same problem that is happening towards me and my muse(s) doesn't seem to extend to ANY of your other roleplay partners with close situationships, aka you're sending asks, even umprompted without any memes, and paying close attention to their stuff... well, it's not a very good feeling.
While I don't mind if it happens much, because attention spans shift and I'm understanding as I can be about that, if this happens a bit too much I would appreciate some reassurance, every once in a while, that the relatonship/friendship/familyship between our muse hasn't dwindled down to almost nothing- or to be straight up told that yes, the vibe is gone and it's better if our muses part ways.
If you ever catch yourself doing this, I strongly encourage you to go and have a chat with the person, and see how they're feeling about it and if it's somehow hurting them or if they understand what's happening and they're alright with it. If they're not, work around a solution that puts them back at ease, and be honest if it's not possible for you to compromise at the moment.
All of these are big changes in how a person interacts with you. You're allowed to be bummed about it, be it intentional or not.
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