#iiluminaughtii

[chazevergreen]

My favorite part of the hbomberguy video is when he said "it's hbombin' time" and hbombed all over iiluminaughtii's, Internet Historian's, and James Somerton's careers

#hbomberguy #iiluminaughtii #internet historian #james somerton

[uwuspaceboy]

#i can't believe he killed them all #hbomberguy #james somerton #iiluminaughtii #internet historian

[ytcomments-archive]

#hbomberguy #youtube comments #todd in the shadows #james somerton #plagiarism #ao3 and wattpad are research websites change my mind #mysogyny #iiluminaughtii #be gay do crimes #tommy tallarico #his mother is very proud #folding ideas

[belethlegwen]

#had to get this out this morning when my sister sent me the link #hbomberguy #illuminaughtii #video essay #on the h. burgerguy channel #iiluminaughtii #didn't catch the typo #oop

[silver-tongues-blog]

i just wannna talk about how he cited his first video when he was showing it in the second video because thats the funniest shit ever.

#hbomberguy #iiluminaughtii

[sadiewayne]

this needs to be said and i haven't seen anyone say it

if you are sat there saying you should've known about anyone mentioned in the hbomberguy video (especially jimmy)...

no, you shouldn't have

it is not your responsibility as a viewer to fact-check a youtuber who makes video essays for a living. they exploited you and everyone else and non of it is your fault

you are a victim of their greedy self-centred behaviour and were exploited for money

you are not a bad person for enjoying content you thought was genuine

you are not part of the problem

here's the video

here's todd in the shadows video

here's the playlist of great queer creators

#hbomberguy #james somerton #illuminaughtii #internet historian #everyone else he covered #i definitely spelt iiluminaughtii wrong but idgaf it’s deserved #iiluminaughtii

[shybiii]

It's insane to me that there are YouTubers who call themselves "video essayists" while apparently not understanding that a key component of an essay is academic citation.

#James somerton #hbomberguy #iiluminaughtii #yeah im late to the party but man oh man #what do those assholes think 'essayist' means

[chi-the-idiot]

Many have said this before, but i feel it's meaningful and important to highlight this.

People watching Hbomberguy's video on Plagarism and Youtube seem to have laser focused in on the particular people he mentions instead of the overall message.

And let me be clear: it's understandable that this happened. Hbomberguy spends most of the 4 hours of the video recounting the types of plagarism he's seen pop around on youtube, naming people like Filip, Iiluminaughty, Internet Historian, and later using those examples to showcase all the forms combined into one, with all of their excuses included, in James Sommerton's chanel. The video does name several well known creators, so on a surface level it could be seen as a "hit piece/call out" towards all of them.

But people seem to have ignored the real message, the real importance of why Hbomberguy mentioned all of those cases.

Most of those people are well known within their fields of content. Its likely that, if people were to watch their videos, they would not go out of their way to look for the other sources of their content if they were, in fact, cited. And, in the most despicable cases, they were not, and with reason: they didn't want to be found out.

Iilluminaughty cited her sources so badly it would have been tedious for the regular viewer to go through them just to find what they wanted.

Internet Historian literally stole man in cave from someone else, narration and all, and when he was found out, instead of being honest, he was fucking sneaky about changing some words to still make it pass as his own.

And what can we say about James Sommerton that hasn't been said?

Ultimately, I feel like people don't really take into account the true harm plagarism does. Plagarism is taking someone's work and passing it as your own. The time destined to actual research, the talent of writers, the personal tone. It is all lost when something is stolen from them just for the sake of content. For the fame and fortune that comes from it.

Internet Historian took the views Man in Cave could have gotten for the real author all to himself.

James Sommerton took the recognition and praise for phrases, ideas, and musings that other queer creators could have gotten, effectively taking the voices of his community and potraying it as his own.

From all of this, I hope we can learn. This is not drama, this is important. I don't want deplatforming for any of the creators that are still here (except for Iiluminaughty, she has done much more than just plagirize). I want Internet Historian to put effort into not plagirizing, to not be sneaky about it by saying "inspired by" and telling the full story of "hey, i stole this, i will do better" and calling for his viewers to give recognition to the article he read. Hell, James Sommerton could start making other types of content that is not stolen from articles if he wants to.

Plagarism is not the end of the world. But it is harmful to creatives of all sorts, and it's important to recognize that and, if we did do plagarism, credit those whose work we used (if its not possible to take down the work whatsoever), and promise to do better and go through with it.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

#hbomberguy #james somerton #iiluminaughtii #internet historian #most of the names are probably misspelled sorry for that

[glitterfamsquad]

Matching couple shirts

#hbomberguy #plagiarism #youtube #memes #couple outfits #funny #comedy #copyright #james somerton #angry video game nerd #lgbt #iiluminaughtii #internet historian

[chrissysky]

I see James hasn't changed.

Anyway go watch Hbomb's takedown of these awful (allegedly) people:

#iiluminaughtii #cinemassacre #james somerton #hbomberguy #plagiarism #I found out this went up during last night's friend stream and absolutely lost my shit #i have been WAITING for this one #Youtube

[my-autism-adhd-blog]

Iiluminaughii did NOT just turn all of the comments off. I guess she can’t take some criticism and being called out. Coward.

#iiluminaughtii #she turned comments off #I guess she can’t handle seeing hate comments #coward #her views are going down hard #let’s hope she gets to 1.2 mil instead of 1.3 mil #this sucks because I loved her vids #turns out she’s a bad person #feel free to share/add thoughts

[echo]

HE KEEPS GOING

#hbomberguy #iiluminaughtii #youtube #Youtube

[whilomm]

thinking about the hbomberguy vid and how even with my own personal projects that are like Just For Me (like painting my suitcase or making my weighted blanket) i am still so paranoid just about the IDEA of "stealing" from others, even for shit that only im gonna really see, that ill outright refuse to use anything thats either not st purpose made for this stuff (like either free or paid cutting machine designs) or not easily "visually sourced" (i.e. can i look at it and tell someone "oh yeah thats a design from a greek coin!" or "thats a symbol from gravity falls!") and ill instead just power thru with my extremely limited drawing skills and painstakingly try to draw a design for. whatever it is im making.

like. i already have enough of a problem using stuff made by other ppl for shit thats just gonna sit in my home and be seen by me myself and I, i cannot fucking fathom stealing from so many ppl and putting it on youtube. how do you fucking live with yourself!!

#buzzy #hbomberguy #james somerton #iiluminaughtii #internet historian

[weaponizedhorse]

Very curious to see that write-up, having only seen illuminautii's own video on the matter from her perspective

Dude I completely forgot to reply to Nunya about this also so thank you so so much for sending this ask!

@beardedmrbean

And oh shit if all you saw was iiluminaughtiis video I am here to inform you that basically everything she said was a lie. Strap in it's gonna get CRAZY

basically iilluminaughtii brought this entire situation on herself by trying to "call out" legal eagles editors on Twitter for "stealing/ copying" her style? And the style was a highlight effect? And a ripped paper effect? Which legal eagle has been using for like literal years. Like this is literally the examples she gave on Twitter

And Illuminaughtii legit just flew too close to the sun cause a TON of crazy shit has come out about her since she made that tweet

But it turns out Illuminati used to be in a group channel called sad milk with a bunch of other YouTubers One of them was the click and one of them was wonderstruck TV and after all this shit went down with the group channel she paid people to dig through The Clicks old videos from 10 to 14 years ago where he was saying no no words because he was 17 and learning English (he's swedish) she posted in this discord about the click saying retarded 10 years ago and when someone said "it was 10 years ago irrelevant" she went on to say how "disgusted" she was with this person for "excusing" 10 fucking year old videos?? Blair said "that word was never okay to use and was never in my vocabulary" good for you?? And apparently Blair says retard/ed in private anyway

Then she made an alt Twitter and alt Reddit account and on the Reddit account she made up conspiracy theories about why sad milk broke up then replied with her iiluminaughtii reddit account debunking her own post?? and then on Twitter she tweeted to the click, to anybody he's coworkers, with like that he shares a podcast with anyone, who is even been on the podcast anyone who has any sort of affiliation with Click saying "oh do you know your friend said the n word Did you know your friend sent the f slur etc" And I mean it was non-stop the click said in his video that he remembers this account and thought it was some random troll but it was Blair the whole time.

Illuminati deleted the doobie Smurfs Reddit account after this was found out but the Twitter is still up so you can actually go through the doobie shmirtz Twitter and see all the unhinged fucking shit she did.

In her video about Click she said that he basically allowed a pedo to stay in his discord for months knowingly. And it turns out as soon as this guy said he was a pedo the mods kick him out while Click was asleep cause time zones. Illuminaughtii in discord messages said she was proud of Click for how he handled the situation

That's not even counting what she did to wonderstruck TV The worst of which is in her quote unquote response video about everything that happened on Twitter she put out his would-be suicide note. For what fucking reason I have no idea and then she revealed that she called the cops on him even though he said he had already calmed down and talked to his therapist? It's it's fucking insane

I very much encourage watching clicks video

#i am v sorry this took me so long to write up my health has not been good lately #iiluminaughtii

[56th-tin-knee]

wake up babes, first-ever Supplementary Material just dropped

#hbomberguy #iiluminaughtii #Youtube

[brainrotallthewaydown1312]

I've been seeing a lot going around about the James Somerton thing, and i have a lot of my own... complicated feelings, but i want to throw my two cents at the conversation I'm seeing. I'm putting it under a cut because 1) this is longer than I meant it to be and 2) I don't like drama and this is about as close to drama posting I'll (hopefully) ever get.

I'm going to say up front, i never watched his stuff. video essays, especially about queer history and media representation, are my bread and butter. i listen to them actively all the time, but i put them on to do chores, or art, or go to sleep pretty much every day. but I never got into James Somerton. I've heard of him and seen his videos come up in my searches and recommend. and he's come on autoplay a few times. I've always skipped him though. I narrowly avoided the hole of misinformation I see so many of you crawling out of right now. and there is a part of me that wants to puff up my chest and gloat and do the "I knew all along" dance that so many people my age do with situations like this.

but first of all, that would be a lie. yes, I did avoid his videos, but he isn't the only essayist that has just not passed my personal vibe check. it would be satisfying to be able to say shit like 'i noticed his lies/theft long ago' or 'i just had a gut feeling' 'he seemed like a hack' but that just isn't it. I never gave him enough attention for any of that to be true because I just didn't vibe with him. maybe it was his delivery or his voice or the production of it, I don't know. but he is far from the only one who makes content in that category who I skip over for failed vibe checks. and while some of them might have something going on, I'm sure some of them are lovely intelligent people with their own insights who are 'unproblematic' to whatever definition we're supposed to be using. and I'm not ever going to be the one to figure out which is which on that list, because just like James I am not giving them the chance for me to figure it out. not vibing with everyone is a natural thing. and there doesn't always have to be some big reason or gut feeling behind it.

if I had paid him any attention, I also like to think I would have noticed some of the plagiarism. especially the Alex Avila videos he ripped because I've been watching Alex for years and I've seen all his videos but specifically the Merlin one many many times, and it was so deeply transparent in its theft. but I'll never know if I actually would have because if you're not looking for it, even when it's familiar, it isn't always easy to click together why that is. and while I do do due diligence on things before I repeat them or if I plan to use it for research, I'm not sitting and fact checking and source checking when I listen to essays before bed or if I'm crocheting on my couch. it's an easy trap to fall into. I know first hand because I used to watch iilluminatii.

I haven't watched her in a few months, and while I'd like to chalk that up to having spotted the plagiarism, it was when all that interchannel drama hit. I tried to do my normal due diligence. I looked into it to see who seemed to be in the wrong with it. I have a low tolerance for that shit, so it was very tiring and I admittedly didn't do as much as I should have. and some people during that did point out the plagiarism, but they came at it in a way that it didn't seem genuine and it felt like an exaggeration of their distaste for her. it was all said in that condescending 'i already didn't like her and you're dumb for not seeing the problem' voice. partly because I was already fatigued on the drama and partly because I had been watching for so long and she does talk about her sources below, I didn't look into it. that was around when I stopped, and when I did it was more from fatigue on trying to sort the drama and the allegations and all of that out. I just wanted a rest from it. so I just gave up. and I had been a little disillusioned by that but a part of me was still hit by seeing how egregious it was in hbomb's video. because how had I not noticed that?

which brings me back to James. even if I had 'just known,' or been a fan who was already disillusioned, or I had caught the plagiarism, none of that would be a constructive addition to the conversation everyone is having right now. I know that. I've seen it over and over again with various cancellations. and I am just now processing how it effected my ability to follow up on the iilluminatii allegations months ago. I had no excuse to be finding out about that with everyone else, I was recently researching that actively. but I was getting so tripped up in the hipster zoomer discourse that I wasn't able to actually do the research objectively and I just gave up. and I know I am far from the only one to experience this. turning a genuine problem like this into an interpersonal drama issue and gloating about how soon you noticed or how obvious it is or any of that devalues the entire conversation. it drives people away from the discussion and makes them feel worse than they need to.

there are big waves right now. people talking about plagiarism and how to find it. what the penalty should be. how to more accurately define it. there are people grieving the loss of a parasocial support they had. people making recommendations for replacements. people looking for those recommendations. people afraid to because they don't want to be tricked again. these are all important conversations, and many of them are difficult. but there are also people gloating about noticing it sooner. or not having watched him. or having eagle eyes for plagiarism. or whatever else. and that doesn't help anyone. like I said. I get the temptation. it feels good to squeak by without getting hit when someone like this does something big and bad. and it feels good to be ahead of the curve. but it doesn't help the people who are hurting. the people he stole from and the people he lied to are already processing that. they don't need to be talked down to. and it doesn't help the wider conversation that people are having about plagiarism. that conversation is moving forward and you are stuck arguing about what you knew when.

I guess my main point is this: it's a shitty situation all around. it has left so many victims in its wake. most obviously and directly the people he stole from, but also the people who trusted him who he lied to, and the people who his misinformation will affect even if they never heard of him. and there are a lot of people processing and hurting right now. and there are a lot of conversations happening about how this coming to light can help prevent it from continuing to happen at scales like this. and conversations about people making similar stuff themselves that is properly researched where any incorrect information is accidental and likely to be corrected. and if you have to weigh in to those, do so constructively. say what you need to about what he did or about what is being said, but don't turn it into a sleuthing competition or a party trick that you figured it out first. don't post about how heavy handed and egregious it was and how everyone had to have noticed. don't guilt and shame the people who are processing. find something positive to say. find something comforting to say. the situation is shitty enough without unnecessary negativity clogging everything up

#james somerton #hbomberguy #plagiarism #iiluminaughtii