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Radqueers are a cult.
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I am a cult survivor, I have been one far before I was in the radqueer community. As a cult survivor, the radqueer community IS a cult. If you've never been in the community, and have only been an outside observer, it's understandable that you wouldn't realize this, but claiming radqueers are "just assholes" is a slap in the face to people like me who have been permanently traumatized by them.
Here is a commonly used model of how cults work:
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If you go through every single point in this, the radqueer community checks almost every one of them. People have already pointed this out many times before, however I will explain it again for people who haven't seen those posts.
(Skipping over ones that don't fully apply or that I haven't personally experienced. Most of these are pretty brief because I don't think anyone will read an entire essay for every point)
Rigid rules - radqueers force you to include everyone and everything, and never question what you're accepting lest you get labeled as "not a real radqueer" and harassed. You must accept any and all predatory relationships, or you'll receive the same treatment as "antis". If that isn't "rigid rules", I don't know what is.
Rewards and punishments - you coin a term people like, or make an "I love pro-cs" post? Everyone likes you, praises you, sends you asks telling you how amazing you are! You dare to question anything about the community? You get cast out, banned from servers, harassed, sent death threats, and doxxed.
Dependence and obedience - radqueers make their victims believe that this is the only community that will accept them. They say that every other community will hate them for their identity, and this is the only "real radinclus" community. This causes people to feel trapped there, or in other words become entirely dependent on the community for validation and support. They convince people that if they leave, or do anything wrong that causes them to be forced out, they'll have nowhere to go. This forces them into obedience for fear of being left all alone and being completely abandoned.
Deception - this one is very, very obvious. There's a reason why radqueers label themselves as "radically inclusive", "pro-consent", "pro-bodily autonomy" - they are not just saying these things because they don't understand what they mean. They're intentionally using uplifting, inclusive language that sounds really great and supportive to deceive people into joining them. This is also why they use emoji codes, so other radqueers will recognize them but people who don't know what radqueers are will be lured into their trap.
Propaganda - pretty similar to the above. They label everything as "radical inclusion" and tell people that they have to support all these things to be "truly inclusive". They make cute flags and emoji codes to make grooming, abuse, racism, ableism, and transphobia seem cool and fun, to further lead people into their trap. By definition, propaganda is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view". All these cutesy emojis, symbols, flags, and terms are propaganda.
Discourages access to outside sources of information - radqueers constantly say that all science, psychology, and medical information is "biased" and "bigoted". If you provide them with any information on how what they're doing is wrong, they pull out any number of excuses and then tell their "friends" how bigoted and exclusionist the source is. This makes it seem like radqueers are the only reliable source of information, and anything else is untrustworthy.
Insider/outsider doctrine - this is painfully clear with how they refer to everyone who disagrees with them as "antis". Even if you're just an outside observer, you pick up on this quickly.
All/nothing, good/evil, us/them dogma - once again, they refer to anyone who differs even slightly in opinion as an "anti" or "anti in training", and the second anyone decides to question why they're literally supporting nazis and blackface, they get labeled as an "anti" and "horrible person". They play the victim any time they get told that what they're doing is wrong, while crying and complaining about how much they're harassed and about how "mean" and "rude" anti-radqueers are.
Feeling chosen or special - radqueers very obviously convince themselves that they're so unique and special, which is why terms like transship or transhasapetcat exist. They want to seem really cool and special, and make completely normal things into obscure, "special" identities, like calling yourself translivesintheuk instead of just saying you wanna move to the UK. As someone who's been in their servers, they hoard identities like this because it makes them feel temporarily special and unique, which makes them convinced that what they're doing is right.
Guilt/manipulation - radqueers do this all the time. When someone says they aren't sure if they support something or not, radqueers immediately get all teary-eyed and upset, claiming that the person would be "basically an anti" if they decided not to support it. I've even seem someone cry and complain over being rejected by an anti-transnazi radqueer and claim that it was "ableist" that the person rejected them. Everyone defended and comforted the person who was rejected, immediately siding with them for fear of being "ableist", saying that it was wrong to be against literal nazis. This is very clear manipulation and guilt-tripping.
Phobia indoctrination - phobia indoctrination is where people in the cult make others terrified of leaving for fear of being hurt, killed, etc. As I've explained earlier, radqueers try to scare people into staying by saying that if they leave the community, no one will ever support or love them, and they'll never be accepted outside of it. People who went into the radqueer community after being anti-radqueer know firsthand how awful the harassment, doxxing, and death threats from radqueers are. People in the community who have doubts are very clearly too scared to leave, and people who don't have doubts have been convinced that no one will ever love them except for radqueers.
Anyways, I hope that this clears up how the radqueer community is a cult! Feel free to add on with your own experiences or additions, and please stop invalidating and shaming survivors.
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funnyburneracct · 4 months
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Hi, I'm Xiao/burningrqs. this post is going to be long. Posting this from a burner so that it doesn't go down the drain when we deactivate.
But essentially, this is an apology to the radqueer community for multiple different things. I'm going to do my best to type this out as well as possible, and I apologize if I miss anything or word things poorly. I am going to explain myself to the best of my abilities, but please keep in mind that my explanations do not excuse my actions by any means.
Post under the cut.
for those who don't want to read it though, TL;DR: I was a complete asshole and I'm genuinely very sorry about it.
So, I want to start off by apologizing in general for the "burning radqueers" thing. Not only was it just not funny, but it was also really weird. I know damn well that if I saw someone pop up with a "burningmogais" blog or something, I would be pissed. So I don't know what made me think that running burningradqueers was a good idea in any sense.
My rude and dehumanizing comments did not help. Regardless of how I view people, what disorders I have, or how symptoms present themselves, it was disgusting of me to act as though I can't be held accountable for my cruelty towards others.
The targeted posts were even worse, and allowing people to just pick a random blog to "burn" was teetering on harassment. It put the user in front of so many people who clearly did not have good intentions towards them, and inherently put the user being "burnt" in danger. I wish I noticed that fact sooner. Even if I disagreed with people or didn't like them for whatever reason, I still should not have felt as though I had the right to post stuff like that.
Adding onto that, I should have never used my ASPD as an excuse for anything. I tend to get defensive when I feel insulted, which is what happened, and I decided to bite back despite being in the wrong. I acted impulsively and out of pure anger, and then tried to defend it, which I shouldn't have. When saying the kinds of things I did, I am open to criticism whether I like that fact or not, and trying to act as though I am immune to that criticism because of a disorder was disgusting on my part.
Another thing, somewhat on a similar note, is that an apology is owed for my hostility in general. Every time it was even lightly suggested I was wrong, I seemed to lash out and get angry. This really just comes down to me needing to learn to admit my wrongs. I should not have made my inability to understand my wrongdoings anyone else's problem.
Then there's also the things I said when I lashed out before deciding to drop burningradqueers entirely. I don't fully remember all of what I said as the event happened during an episode (this does not excuse my words at all by the way. regardless of my state at the time, what I said wasn't okay and should not be excused) and the posts have since been deleted. But, I do remember at one point making harassment out to be a competition of sorts when someone was simply trying to calmly explain to my why the namedropping was not a good move. I can't for the life of me remember why I did that, but I am very sorry about it. A lot of people in the radqueer community have been harassed (and likely do still get harassed constantly), and for me to act like I am the only victim of harassment was wrong on multiple levels.
I'm sure there was a lot of bad stuff I said during that episode, but as I said, I do not remember most of it. I'm sorry that I can't apologize for the specific things I said, but I am apologizing for the situation as a whole.
The entire thing started over me not being able to handle much deserved criticism, and I stood "my ground" despite having absolutely no ground to stand on.
I started burningradqueers over baseless hatred. I didn't know why I was supposed to hate radqueers, or what I was even really hating. I joined the anti community thinking that it is much easier to just move with the pack and hate what everyone else seems to hate, but hatred really isn't that easy. It's exhausting. And realizing how much the anti community really wouldn't want me if I was honest about things made me realize that. Realizing that there are so many antis who would rather see us suffer forever due to dysphoria than see us live happily after getting amputations was rough, and honestly kinda gave me a taste of what radqueers have to deal with every single day, and it felt horrible.
Without realizing it, I managed to do so much damage to a community full of people who deal with exactly the same things I do, a community that is mostly traumatized and mentally ill people who are just trying to get by. Not even just that, but genuinely just people trying to exist and be honest about themselves.
It is not my place to dictate what is and isn't valid in terms of someone's personal identity, and even more, it's not okay for me to treat a whole community like garbage just because I didn't understand it.
Again, I do not want my actions to be excused. I treated people horribly and was a total dick, but I hope that me apologizing can at least make some of you feel better about how I behaved.
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controversiai · 5 months
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Id say warning in general.
"But im anti-contact!! Mememe-"
Youre apart of a community that was meant to be xenosatanist, literally check out the older radqueers, they're straight up xenosatanist, if you see someone being political satanist that sounds similar to rq that's xenosatanism.
Radqueer was coined with sex offenders being welcomed in mind, with pro contact people being welcomed in mind, they were created by people who thought that kids animals corpses could consent. Im being serious.
Look at the original blog who coined radqueer.
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Anti-contact etcetera werent welcome in the community in the first place, they never have been. There is a reason why in 2021, the community first formed it was full of 'political satanists' now known as xenosatanists. Radqueers didnt love anti-contact people, in anyway shape or form.
And this is a note from the original coiner, i personally find it problematic. You finding it problematic or not is really up to you.
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After this is just me.
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Istg if i see a radqueer say 'oh rad because were cool!!' there's a reason why its Radical, it isnt to look cool. The term was created by political satanist before xenosatanism didnt exist, radqueer was an attempt to coin xenosatanist as it didn't exist at the time of 2021. But it does now.
You cant be anti-contact and radqueer, its literally strictly pro-contact.💀
Also for stupid fuckers who are tryna reclaim radqueer and xenosatanism, you cant, those are literal political stances. Im serious.
You cant reclaim something that says shit like:
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(Im not putting text for this disgusting thing.)
Also can you reclaim the term 'conservative' fuck no, you cant. Can you reclaim the term 'facist' or 'communist' or 'anarchist' ? No. No you cant, but you can make new things. So shut up and make those new things. You cannot reclaim it.
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I need you all to hear me.
Man, I truly am watching as the radqueer community eats itself, aren't I?
And it really is it's own fault above all else.
No matter how many times we've told you all to ignore this shit, no matter how many times we've told you not to feed into bullshit drama, no matter how many times we've explained what to do when shit like this occurs, no matter how many times we sit you down and teach you that giving the thing you hate attention does nothing but flourish it?
A lot of you people never listen. A lot of you relish on that drama. So I'll say this:
I remain Radqueer, being Radqueer does not equal supporting everything or every ideal in the community or by people in the community. Being Radqueer simply means sharing beliefs with some or most of the community, especially on being pro-para and pro-transid.
Soon I'll recoin Dovequeer. It was my original blankqueer term and I hold it dearly, and I'll remake it with all the original things plus more in hopes some will turn to Dovequeer when losing hope for Radqueer. It is a good alternative with its basis in anti-abuse and anti-discourse
But understand one thing and one thing clearly.
Pro-para and pro-transid, radqueer or not, need a community to provide itself stability. Our ideals only go so far as our ability to bring them. If one woman could've done stonewall, she would have, but it takes an army.
It takes an army.
Don't make me say I warned you.
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hey uh psa to any morons who seriously believe this is a good idea but like if you seriously think that the proper response to something that you don’t like or even find harmful is to traumadump and harass someone especially a MINOR, fuck you. Get help like seriously what the fuck. I know I’m like a day or two late to this but like Jesus Christ the people harassing ciel and kyummi are ridiculous. I don’t care if you dislike them or what they say/believe is triggering or you feel you have some moral obligation cuz you’re a pretentious cunt. There is no good or valid reason to go out of your way to harass or traumadump on minors it solves nothing and helps no one if you do it you are an objectively bad person and you should get help (especially if you’re an adult). I don’t care about your trauma or your bullshit excuse there is absolutely no good reason for this behavior, and for those of you who may have an issue with ciel and kyummi or really any other Radqueer or person In general honestly and are considering this course of action, go splash some fucking water in your face (actually for good measure dunk your whole head in) and just block them like a fucking reasonable human being and if you truly just cannot keep your mouth shut just make a grumpy tumblr post so we can block you you goddamn cry baby then never touch tumblr again.
again I know I’m like late on this whole issue but like I saw one of the like venting asks from one of these people and it was so horrific and know I’m like really heated. I genuinely question what has to go through your head to do shit like that.
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nagetiere · 2 months
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haiii i used to be einhornsocken !! (the anti that has THANKFULLY deactivated) i'm not really into discourse anymore (hence why i don't have my own blog anymore and am posting this on a headmate's blog lol) but this post made me mad so i had to say something
for context devilradz was an "undercover" anti "pretending" (for lack of better words) to be a radqueer. their intentions didn't seem to be bad, though. they weren't intentionally trying to hurt anybody as far as we know (and i'd bet no radqueer is even actually as affected by this as they claim to be)
the person in the screenshot had a fairly popular anti blog at one point (burningradqueers) and then right before new years deactivated and made a rq blog. they were never actually an anti though. i will call them O because they seem to throw tantrums if you even dare mention their name
afaik the anti behind devilradz themselves didn't have anything to do with people finding out about O's radqueer blog. i don't remember them being involved in whatever was going down at all. personally disliking antis in general doesn't make it okay to be an ass to one specific anti that didn't even do anything wrong
i am the anti they are talking about when they say they were named publicly by an anti. you wanna know what actually happened? shortly after O had deactivated their anti blog, i got an anon saying that O was actually radqueer despite saying they were still an anti. i didn't believe this at first, and then whaddaya know? i get sent O's radqueer blog.
this is where me "publicly naming" O comes in. i wanted to let the other antis know that O was, infact, a radqueer, and that the anon wasn't lying. so i made a post along the lines of "burningradqueers is actually a radqueer, anon wasn't lying" but did not post the name of their radqueer blog anywhere.
at this time, i was still using O's deadname (unknowingly) and so i get told "hey this is O's current name please don't deadname them" by an anon. i guess because i started referring to O as their current name, that caused other antis to be able to find O's radqueer blog easier. not once did i tell ANYONE their rq blog's name. i literally just stopped using their deadname. i'm such a horrible person for using O's name /sar
"antis were fine with that" haha. multiple antis were saying things like "don't jump to conclusions!!" about O despite knowing that O was/is dating a pro c transn@z1 (censored so this actually shows up in tags). if anything, the other antis were overly kind to O.
"you only deserve privacy if you're an anti /sar" lol. there have been several anti blocklists/report lists made by radqueers. love it when radqueers say our community sucks and then do the exact same things they're criticizing us for /s
crosstagging because you guys (radqueers) will accept any and all information you're spoonfed as long as it comes from another radqueer
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honeydew-wecantwo · 6 days
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randomly assorted radqueer homestuck headcannons
jade: always kind of knew she was radqueer as a little kid but it never really kicked off until it finally clicked in her head and she went NUTS. im talkin taking in transids like they were lost children in a snowstorm. u can take her 92 different identities and her hundred-neopronoun hoard out of her cold, dead hands
nepeta: oh do i even have to say it. this girl is the most proshippy proshipper to ever grace this earth. probably owns a bunch of yaoi manga just because. probably is the AUTHOR of a bunch of yaoi manga just because.
equius: probably only got into the whole proship business because of nep. not crazy about it, but he can respect it.. probably beta reads nep's fanfiction in his free time
dave: ex anti who probably started claiming transids as a joke but then realized he was very serious about it. probably hides it from his friends because he thinks he'll be laughed out a room. also probably is the proud owner of a thriving rq blog
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killr-o-radqueers · 19 days
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radqueers: antis are so mean and they never listen to us and they spread misinformation about us!!!
also radqueers: use several racist/homophobic/transphobic terms and say they are not those things but REFUSE to explain why
also radqueers: harbor several abusers/groomers
also radqueers: have several ex members who have been groomed
also radqueers: constantly send death threats and try to trigger people's OCD
also radqueers: unable to get bitches so they have to say they are "pro rape" and "pro abuse"
also radqueers: by being "pro abuse" are inherently ANTI abuse victims
also radqueers: are inherently supportive of pedophiles indulging in their fantasies. not because they have a genuine reason to believe children can consent, but because theyre horny.
also radqueers: shut down any conversation about the prior point by calling us """ageist""" and saying it is just "ingrained in our society" because they would rather traumatize children than not get to fuck
also radqueers: really lame tbh. gotta put a label on everything. i would have like a laundry list of shit if i tried to put a label on all my experiences.
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atlasoftheunknown · 1 year
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I used to hate anybody and everybody was radqueer. I don't anymore, for one reason in particular;
I'm concerned. Honestly everything you guys do is more concerning than anything. You all clearly have something going on, and I have a feeling it's either from the echo chamber you've dragged yourselves into or you are genuinely delusional. You all need therapy. Before one of you tries to argue why you shouldn't go to therapy, you need to understand that I am well aware therapy won't necessarily fix what's wrong, however it will give you healthier coping mechanisms than cosplaying as a minority. Three things in particular I want to criticize about radqueers however are; 1. TransAbled. I've heard the argument that "transids" are the same as transgender, a misalignment of the body and mind. I'm white and therefore do not feel comfortable speaking about transrace, however I'd like to know how you can physically not have autism, depression or anxiety, but mentally have it. That's not exactly how that works. Unlike sex and gender, mental disorders are entirely mental. It's in the name. And wanting to have a physical disability is weird at best, horrifically diminishing at worst. I guarantee if you were actually disabled you would not want to be. This is not trying to say that disabled people cannot be content with being disabled, but it's really strange to want to struggle in life. All the disabled people I've met, talked to, heard from, they don't hate their disability. They don't want to have it either. It's just their circumstances. 2. Transbody, transopinion and transoccupation These are three things I've seen a lot of and they honestly just feel like an attention grab. Transbody terms are mostly just insecurities, "feeling as if you should have [x feature]". Either that or they're unrealistic, which I'm becoming concerned is causing more insecurities for confused kids that they didn't even know could happen. Transopinion is one of two things. It's either people who are so desperate for labels they're clinging to stuff they know is bad, or is literally just changing your mind, except apparently you're not allowed to do that. This also ties into the concept of "stances" which seem to be immovable ideologies that once you express you're not allowed to change. That's a topic for another day though. Transoccupation is genuinely just having dreams and aspirations, or finding something interesting. You guys know you're allowed to have interests right? 3. Paraphilias (specifically the "big three" and other harmful ones) Paraphilias should not be accepted in the way you all think they should. There should absolutely be a little less shame involving it so that individuals can get access to the proper help, however we should not be normalizing paraphilias. They are not normal, and they are absolutely not queer identities. I'm genuinely terrified for "radqueer" kids who are saying that pedophilia is okay. What happens if it does get normalized and you get SA'd? Or when it's your kids? Or does it only apply when it's other kids, ones you don't know? This is honestly just a breeding ground for grooming and sexual abuse. It is absolutely not okay.
For the record, I still support bodily autonomy, obviously I cannot stop you from doing whatever you want with your bodies, however please stop claiming to be part of communities you were never part of, and stop trying to push your voice into our conversations.
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thedigitalwave · 8 months
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If you ever think the radqueer community is wrong by despising "survivors of the radqueer community", just think of Oli London.
He labeled himself as queer and was transrace. Now he hates queer people and trace people, says they're all the same mob of horribleness, and thrashes trans people because he's now christian and doesn't identify with those "beliefs".
Do you really think he was right? If yes, you're just a bigot, congratulations, but if not, where do you draw the line? At hating "actual queer people"? At hating "an actual minority"? Because I've never seen a non-queer radqueer. I've never seen a radqueer who's never been oppressed in any way. And with the amount of hate we've gotten, you can bet (and I know it's true) that a lot of antis are bigoted. I've seen antis be so straight up ableist while "fighting against ableism", I've seen them call radqueers the r slur and say horrible shit. And you can't say that's not a majority, I've never seen an anti who isn't conservative-coded and doesn't spew bigoted bullshit.
Because the nature of antis is segregation between binaries that don't exist as a binary. Disabled vs abled is not a binary, yet I've seen antis say that people can never become disabled, which is just stupid. As a white latino, POC vs white is not a binary I fall into, yet they really want to separate those and say people can never ever identify as something other than what they're born and perceived as.
They want to separate them because it's less confusing and less problematic. They want to maintain the status quo of never letting minorities become privileged as an identity (e.g. transwhiteness and nullabledness), and of never letting privileged people identify with minorities. Privilege or minority status will likely never leave us and we're not saying it will, but muddying the waters will never be something less than good. Because that only empowers.
In my humble opinion, saying disability and other minority status is desirable and inherently neutral or good, is not harmful. Because the other option is saying disability and other minority status is inherently undesirable regardless of how the disabled person or minority feels about it.
Anyway. I have said this multiple times, but having a distinct line between privilege status and minority status that no one can cross is not a good thing and will never be.
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runs-red · 2 days
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Why the Radqueer community is harmful. 
[This has been more or less a side-vent for me so it's a little un-organised and full of half-thoughts. | Civil discourse is encouraged]
Just to start off, yes, not all radqueers believe the same thing. This is about the community as a whole and what is generally accepted there. I was a radqueer when I was a bit younger. I’m talking about the patterns I recognise and the things I’ve personally seen in the community. 
Since this is a common denominator, I’ll point this out first: the “acceptance and support of everything” is way too high to the point where it becomes harmful. Which doesn’t sound like something that could be possible. I remember being a radqueer and thinking the concept of acceptance being harmful was a crazy concept, but yes, acceptance can be harmful. A lot of the things I'll be pointing out wouldn't be an issue if there were a level of intolerance and a point where people would put their foot down. Acknowledging that paraphiles aren’t something people choose to have and that they can control their actions (pro-para) is completely different from acting like paraphilias are the same as being gay and that the big three can have contact (radpara). 
Radical acceptance of paraphilias and contact. 
Contact stance discourse is seemingly never-ending, radical pro-contacts and ideology pop up consistently enough, and sexual abuse and grooming have been reported from the community consistently. The community's environment is just prone to attracting these kinds of beliefs too, even if there are people in the community who are against them. Consensual abuse and seeking or being in toxic relationships are also somewhat relevant in the community. It doesn't really seem like "just" kink to me, because in a BDSM relationship, terms like "transgroomer" aren't used, and it's not about fuffiling a transtion. 
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Normalisation of Self-Harm.
There is no shortage of transharmed terms and transition tips in the tags, as well as vent and fantasy posts. Again, the issue isn’t the feeling. Feeling like you should be hurt is relatively common. The issue is that this is just being encouraged and not dealt with properly. I feel like transharmed terms would be better if the transition tips were about coping with that feeling, trying to get better, and dealing with the root cause rather than “hurt yourself or roleplay being hurt.”.
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Acceptance of socially insensitive/offensive content. 
From racial transition tips to transharmful terms to genuine contact discourse, there’s a wide variety of wildly insensitive content in the tags. There's a difference between being socially unconventional and supporting terms like transnazi and telling people to tan their skin to look brown. 
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If your thinking it's ironic a pro-fiction person is talking about things like insensitive content - I think theres a huge difference between saying that gross ass kinky fiction and gross ass sex scenes can exist in fiction, and supporting real school shooter edits and encouraging black face. I also am allowed to have limits on what I think is okay and not okay like anyone else.
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Again, I don't think the issue is in being pro-para and pro-non-normative dysphoria but in the overall toxic environment in the community.
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i never knew the rq community(?) was big enough to have an anti community, are they really that like, widespread? based of yall regardless
Radqueers basically only exist here on Tumblr and some groups on Discord. There is a silly ass who did a speech about transids to their college class or something though lol. And yeah antis are based we vibe 💪
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anti-radqueer-zone · 5 months
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This anon linked a post from a Radqueer so I'm going to screenshot what they said and what the Radqueer said just to hopefully lessen harassment and stuff.
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I found this funny when I first saw it because it again reminded me of someone trying to place religion into a non-religious discussion. The people who say "Radqueers are going to hell" and "Radqueers should burn" are not saying it in a religious context (unless I've missed something). Placing your religious opinions as a response to someone's words is annoying at best and disrespectful at worst. It also makes it seem like you see your religion and God's word as holding a burden on everyone, even if they don't believe in them.
I have never been a religious person, but I've also never been anti-religion. People can do whatever they want, but the moment someone starts to bring their religion as a talking point into a non-religious discussion, it just gets annoying because it really does feel like you're forcing a religious lens onto someone who is having a non-religious discussion.
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