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#i draw very good on my cintiq lmao
yume-danshi · 1 year
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*sobs in gay* My boy...
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kim-woonhak · 3 years
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you draw in PHOTOSHOP? how how how how howwwww???? I'm literally having a meltdown right now because your art is so so good SO GOOD and i literally have PS open right now am struggling to just get my lines to be smooth and go where i want them to go, and it takes me hours and I can't finish anything before giving up. Do you have a Cintiq or something? I thought maybe the missing key would be getting some better drawing software or an iPad but the reality is I just suck real bad lmao.
omg haha thank you!!! lol i'm old so i've been using the same tablet for 12 (!!!) years now and it's definitely discontinued but it's a super old school wacom bamboo splash tablet. i wish I had a cintiq haha but that's expensive and honestly only worth it if u go pro / free lance. i'm not sure if there's ipad speed / pressure sensitivity settings for the apple pen but changing those on my laptop helped some. there's also flow settings on photoshop brushes but honestly that's not very important. ik its lowkey an annoying saying but practice makes perfect better! also for smooth lines it definitely helps to work super super zoomed out (where the whole image is fit to screen or even 50% screen size) bc my hand doesn't need to move as far so i get less wobble. i only zoom in for details or if i'm tracing a sketch. also for every 1 line i draw i feel like there's half a dozen lines that i've erased or undo'd bc hand eye coordination is still hard after 12 years LOL but ya keep going at it and struggling and you'll eventually get more used to drawing digitally :) fighting 🎉⭐️🥰
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annypuff · 3 years
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Hello! How are you? I hope you are doing well ☺ i had a question for you! I want to get into digital drawing, but I don't have a tablet, and honestly not much money either HAHA. Do you have any recommendations on what type of tablets I should be looking at? Or even some tips? I would really appreciate it! Your art is amazing
hi!! i can tell you personally what i’ve been through if that will help!  sorry, i get super into these things!!! lol so this is gonna be long, sip some water and grab a snack lol
i started digitally drawing in 2005 on ms paint with just a mouse haha.. and it wasn’t until maybe like 2009 i got a wacom bamboo fun tablet! which isn’t the kind with a display. I got it for like, $60-70CAD at the time, at one point had to replace it but it was still the same style of tablet.. and i had been drawing with it for over a decade! I was using ms paint but at some point i switched over to adobe’s flash (like an old version that i was able to get for free) and then paint tool SAI (which i got a “portable” version of... aka pirated lmao) anyways, wacom is on the pricier side but ive heard many great things about the brand huion? they’re a cheaper alternative and i believe they’re just as good! you definitely should watch some youtube videos about them though! so many of my friends (who are just casual artists, or just starting out!) just bit the bullet and got huion branded stuff and they love it so far.
however, some people have come up to me about how they can’t seem to fathom drawing without looking at their hand, so they opt for display tablets. this is where even ipads and other mobile tablets can come into play to. so i bought my display tablet, an old wacom cintiq, secondhand, just like, 2 yrs ago and i love it so much and i totally understand why people would rather skip the regular tablet “phase” and go straight into display tablets. it’s pretty much the closest thing to putting pen to paper except, digitally! but it is EXTREMELY pricey! you’re essentially buying a powered monitor lol depending on the sizes and brand, it can go anywhere between $300-2500! im going to mention huion again bc, yup!! very good alternative, more affordable brand! now if you’re thinking mobile tablets, i just recently got myself the samsung tab s6 lite, it’s a good mid-tier price and they support many other drawing programs and recently they released clip studio paint (what i use) for android and its fine so far! there’s many other mobile drawing software out there too, i suggest looking up on youtube as well as i cant seem to recall the names lol. but honestly, i only ever use it if i wanted to draw digitally on the go lol. this is very privileged of me. i know a lot of artists solely use their ipads and procreate, which i get why it’s so amazing but literally like that post i reblogged had said, it doesn’t matter what you have, it’s how you use it!!
currently i use clip studio paint as my software, but i bought it (on sale!! it goes on sale a few times a year) lol after i started making a stable income (again i feel very blessed) i also got SAI officially hahaha. i literally don’t know how to use photoshop properly :’D GIMP is a free drawing program, i think it reminds me of photoshop though so i didn’t really use it much. I actually haven’t gone around looking at any other drawing software, as i just keep advertising CSP to my friends and they also bought it.. so i would once again resort to youtube for that lol but i love CSP bc they have built in 3d models you can pose!! lol and backgrounds and other assets you can download, etc... when it’s on sale i goes down i think to 70? maybe less, i can’t recall. i don’t wanna advocate uh.. “portable” versions but uh... there’s that option too ;) (not sure if CSP has it but i think SAI’s is around somewhere on the internet...)
in the end, it really is an investment if it’s something you want to hone!! huion is something you should definitely look into and if you want to keep doing it in the long run, you can upgrade much later! I would say, if you can somehow test how well you can do with a non-display tablet, i would just go with that for budget purposes. if it wasn’t for my impulsive nature, i probably wouldve stuck with a non-display for a very long time lol.
oh also this is me assuming you have a laptop or a computer, if you’re running solely on mobile then an ipad alternative would be the samsung s6 tab lite, or anything similar, esp if you’re just going to be using it for drawing!
im so sorry this is so long LMAO my INFP ass just wants to be as helpful as i can... TLDR: try huion! LOL and trial versions of drawing programs!! to see which you feel more comfortable with hehe
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damn-the-dark · 4 years
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FAQ
Mobile friendly! :D Just some trends I noticed in my ask box, I figured I could sum up a few things and give some general info! This post will be updated occasionally as new info is needed! 
What do you draw with/on?
I have two set-ups :3 I primarily use my iPad Pro (the newer model, 2018 I think) and the app Procreate, especially because it’s surprisingly powerful for being a mobile program! But if I need to work on really big canvases (body pillows, large format prints etc.) I have at home an HP desktop with a Huion KAMVAS 22 drawing monitor and Clip Studio Paint & Paint Tool SAI. The huion ran me about 900$ but there are smaller versions that are much more cost effective :D and it performs as well if not better that the cintiq I had prior! Also! Both Clip and SAI are only 50$ but if you catch Clip on sale it’s only 25$!!
How are you so good at art???
Aw geez I’m not good at answering this ;w; I’m going to preface this by saying the ‘goodness’ of art is arbitrary and often formed from the western ideal that good art is how well you can capture reality. This isn’t inherently true, in my eyes art is good when it establishes a connection between the artist and the viewer, everyone has different tastes than the next person so different art will resonate with them while with others it won’t.
That said I did spend all my life drawing, it was fun for me to be able to appreciate things I liked by drawing them! I landed in art school and spent 6 years getting my bachelor’s degree in illustration, however I’ll say that the only thing beneficial I got out of it were the figure drawing classes and even then, drawing a figure over and over means nothing without understanding the anatomy underneath it |D (I recommend this book even for 2-D artists because it covers the topic so well) Of course this only applies if your art is representative in some way, cartoons are even improved by a general understanding of anatomy!
In short just keep learning! You’ll never stop! You will improve! You Have No Choice :)))
Do you take commissions?
I take commissions from time to time, the best way to find out if I’m available is to ask! Feel free to DM me, I’m Soft and cry every time someone wants to get a drawing done by me ;w;
My current rates are:
40$ Icon/Headshot (comes fully colored + shaded)
60$ Half-Body Lineart
70$ Half-Body Color and Shading
85$ Full-Body Lineart
100$ Full-Body Color and Shading
Ref Sheets start at 150$
Example sheet can be found here :3 Additional characters are +50% of the base price, all commissions come with a simple or transparent background, it is +50% of the base price for a complex bg. Complex characters (armor, scales, detailed/patterned clothes etc.) are subject to a maximum +20% complexity fee of the base price. By contacting me for a commission, you agree to my TOS.
And just to address the inevitable: Your prices are so high!!
I didn’t spend 6 years and 60,000$ on art school to hear that my cheaply priced skilled labor is too expensive. Any freelance artist with my level of experience charges a day rate of at least 250$ multiplied by as many days as it takes them to complete the art. Please do us both a favor and instead of complaining an artist’s prices are high, maybe appreciate their work in other ways, leave them a tip or reblog their work. It goes much farther AND we will appreciate it very much!!
How come it takes you so long to reply?/ Why are you so sporadically active?
As an adult, currently employed, I tend to have rather busy days during the week. It really depends on how much a toll work takes whether I have the energy to respond to things qwq And like... I don’t like to bring it up much, but unfortunately I have contracted a cocktail of mental illness that effects my ability to interact with others. I promise I respond as soon as I am mentally able, and I am always appreciate the patience that everyone extends me on account of this ;;;;w;;;; Also I’m in the mysterious and feared ‘Arizona’ Time zone (we don’t do daylight savings time so we just end up bouncing back and forth between Pacific and Mountain time lmao) so depending on the time of year that can probably effect when you see me online |DD
I unfortunately can’t reply to everyone in my notes due to the sheer volume of them, BUT do know I absolutely read all tags and comments and they mean so fucking much to me ;;;;w;;;; Thank you for your kind words and above all Thank you for your understanding!! ❤ ❤
Do you take requests?
In a word; kinda |D I tried to have an Open/Closed system but people would send them regardless. I don’t mind! I like reading what people come up with but unfortunately I can’t draw them all, and I appreciate those so far who seem to understand this and don’t spam me with tons of requests ^w^)/ Thanks you guys!! This fandom is one of the most appreciative and courteous ones I’ve had the pleasure of being a part of! ;w;  ❤ 
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comicteaparty · 4 years
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June 13th-June 19th, 2020 Creator Babble Archive
The archive for the Creator Babble chat that occurred from June 13th, 2020 to June 19th, 2020.  The chat focused on the following question:
What is your physical and digital workspace like when you’re working on your story?
🌈ERROR404 🌈
LOL it really depends on what stage I'm in of the process - My storyboarding space is at home, as comfortable as I can be, a beer and some food at the ready and pure silence. The cats have to be freshly fed, otherwise I'll be harassed and lose my headspace entirely LOL. I usually work on my story boards digitally, just at a very small scale, with my script/outline on my computer and working on my ipad! The double screen helps a LOT, although i would just print out the script if I had access to a printer, haha. When I'm working on the actual page itself, it's a very different story. I usually just try and work on it in tiny little batches during the day when I'm stuck at home, and usually work around the animals as best i can, lmao. Truthfully, I really prefer to be in a coffee shop when I'm working on finishing pages, it makes me so much more productive than i am in this house with so many things to take care of right in front of me, but, obviously, that's a bit difficult to do these days. ;; I usually reserve food and drink until after I pass a milestone in inking/sketching to help motivate me to keep going for as much as I can before taking a break, and I need some kind of music or video playing in the background to keep myself from being absolutely bored out of my mind. My shading process, since it's in black and white, is very easy and i can finish it in one setting, easy, no matter what I'm working with. I also work digitally for my pages, of course, although I don't need more than my ipad and clip studio for it!
DaeofthePast
freshly fed cats
🌈ERROR404 🌈
They are BEASTS when hungry, the little bastards (love them)
I may only work in peace when they're post-food napping lmao
DaeofthePast
we only have one, but same
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
I work almost entirely in the corner of my IKEA couch at home I used to work at a proper desk with a Cintiq, but when I switched to Procreate on an iPad, I migrated to the couch and surrounded myself with a nest of clothes and blankets and books and... here I am, bein' cozy. With terrible posture But when I was between jobs last year, I did rent a little coworking space down the street so I could get out of my pajamas and go get comic stuff done there. It was a godsend. I like drawing at my favorite coffee shop every so often too, but I tend to hide my work while I draw, and there, everyone can look over my shoulder The coworking space had a tall artist desk that was rarely used, so I often grabbed that one. Not cheap, but to stave off cabin fever, heck yes, worth it.
🌈ERROR404 🌈
Ahhh I've been really thinking about getting a studio space one of these days I really shouldn't rn, with my finances as they are, but I could REALLY make use of one recently
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
I loved the space I used last year. They recently had to close for... current-event reasons... and are going to reopen with all sorts of plexiglass barriers between the desks I feel so bad for them. Good studio spaces are wonderful, I would support them again if I ever was out of a job!
🌈ERROR404 🌈
it's good they've found ways to make it safer, though!
carcarchu
My old workspace was in the basement of my home in canada and it was always perpetually freezing even in the summer and i was frequently visited by spiders so my current workspace is a huge improvement in that regard. I do miss my old ergonomic desk chair though. I'm definitely not the kind of person who can draw in bed or on the couch. I need to be in workmode and having a designated space just for that is necessary for me to get in the right headspace for that.
DaeofthePast
my workspace rn is just my desk with my laptop and my drawing tablet. my laptop is stacked on top of a pile of books so i can see the screen (otherwise my tablet blocks my line of sight). it's kinda simple
chalcara [Nyx+Nyssa]
Depends. I have a Cintiq Mobile Studio, so I can draw pretty much every where and sometimes in the oddest position, but most of the time I am on my desk with the cintiq hooked up to a second monitor so I don't have to look down so much.(edited)
Holmeaa - working on WAYFINDERS
For Wayfinders: Thumbnails are somewhere cozy and the only physical work. Me and Q sit and plan them out together. The rest of wayfinders are made on Photoshop, and flat colors in clip paint studio. In the world I would love a nice studio place in an office with others. During corentine I have been working from home, and I am not that good at it, being quite the extrovert. Before corentine I was in a artist residency where I worked on Wayfinders which had a workstation and all the programs we could need. It is so nice and me and Q are going to return there when it opens up again!
Miranda
I have an iPad so usually on the couch, cozied up with coffee and pillows and blankets. But sometimes at the table. But usually on the couch like the gremlin I am
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
I have a large drafting table, a mini drafting table, and a lapdesk in my papasan when we ink/draw! Toning and letters are all done on the desktop in its own space
Miranda
I need to get a good lap desk. But that sounds like a grand setup!
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
My first time hearing about a lapdesk
Omg I need one
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
They are the best things ever Mine has just the pencil holder !(some come with cup holders and its a waste of space imo)
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
Wow I like your setup of the drafting tables
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
I wanna show pics of them....if im allowed in this chat?
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
I hope so, I'm not sure which channel we can post studio photos at? I did see some did before?
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
Ill post in shop talk since creator babble gets archived
Tuyetnhi (Only In Your Dreams!)
my current space is uh.... a bit better than my last one. I used to work on an old writers desk for a decade and I did most of my comic work sitting there cramped up with my desktop taking most of the space. Now I have an L shaped desk where I have my desktop on the shorter end. The longer end it's my pen, pencils, and watercolor stuff. my display tablet occupy the space at times so switching from digital and traditional without worrying about setup hassle is a lot better than what I dealt with before lol.
I'm glad the days I had to curl up and draw with no privacy are long gone now
kayotics
I’ve got a little drafting table where I draw all my comic pages. I’m messy with my pens so they’re kind of strewn about until I start to lose them. Then I put them back. I’m not particularly neat. I spend most of the comic process off the computer, so most of my digital work is just on an iPad where I can sit anywhere. I try to keep good lighting around my drafting table and there’s always loose eraser shavings all over.
Natasha Berlin (Pot of Gold)
I got myself a lil corner desk by the dining table. Not as well-lit as I'd like, but it's decently ergonomic and I started putting posters on my wall Plus I can leave work mindset easily by turning off my computer and forgetting about the dark corner in the dining room XD(edited)
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
My desk is really sloppy and covered in all kinds of junk. I have a harmonica, a ball of yarn, a bunch of ink bottles, etc on my desk. I have my sketchbook under my tablet and usually a notebook somewhere for writing. My tablet sits to the right of my laptop (on top of sketchbook) while I'm not using it and when I'm using it it goes over my computer keyboard. I sometimes have a glass of water or some food sitting to the lefthand side
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
The only thing I wanna share about my workspace is this
once i spent over three hours looking for that damned pen
never again
🌈ERROR404 🌈
Ajkdhfkjs the models for hte magazine im crying
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh my God
shadowhood (SunnyxRain)
mad giggling
Deo101 [Millennium]
youre gonna manage to lose the string
Tuyetnhi (Only In Your Dreams!)
omg
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i know in my heart deo is right but still i hope
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
You should weld a metal chain to it
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Watch me lose the whole tablet
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh nooo
I believe in you!
TaliePlume
My workspace is a black table with a white, yellow, blue and green tablecloth with 3 black chairs. It's next to the kitchen. On it, is my laptop and the left side is my clipboard, 3 blue folders full of writing. Then above it, is 3 sketchbooks and another blue folder from a class that I took in community college.
June 16, 2020
sagaholmgaard
I have one long desk at almost three meters. On the left side is all my coffee and tea supplies, in the middle is my work space and on the right is my dining table xD I get everything done from there, despite having a mobilestudio so I COULD sit anywhere and work, lol. It's a blessing during holiday seasons to be able to bring it everywhere, but at some I like my designated working space. Although I am moving in a few weeks, so who knows what my new workspace will be
Moral_Gutpunch
My workspace is anywhere I can draw or write. It's more of a "Will I be interrupted over something petty or stupid" issue than space. Not that I don't want more space.
Mitzi (Trophallaxis)
My workspace is a big, broken corner desk I managed to lug out of an old apartment when it was gonna be trashed. Before then, I'd just draw in bed. I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure the folding chair I sit at is a similar affair. It's got a Dollar General throw pillow on it so I can at least say I'm trying to save my back. The top of the desk is a mess of mostly old bottles and cans, pencils, incense ash, and my old tarot deck. I love this setup dearly. This is the first time I've ever had my own desk space, much less a space I can decorate or leave as messy as I want. Got my own art up on the walls with sticky tack and all! Also the cat's scratching post is directly behind me, because we've learned the cat won't use it unless it's as in the way as possible. What can ya do, lol.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh cats...
Desnik
I got spoiled with an adjustable desk. It is six feet long, and has a whiteboard top for noodling with dry erase markers
my main computer is set up on an adjustable stand so it floats over the desk, and then I have my cintiq, which we tried to mount on a similar stand but then it was just too heavy
I keep my dice collection nearby because fidgeting helps think things through sometimes
and rolling to make odd decisions never hurts
lately during the quarantine I've been sharing the office with my spouse so we've had to establish rules over when it's okay to bug each other(edited)
oh yeah and we also have a whiteboard installed in the office, and it rules!(edited)
Shizamura 🌟 O Sarilho
Mine is pretty simple: I have a laptop that's long stopped being portable and is now mostly just sitting at my desk at all times and a 19 inch Ugee as my display. I usually keep a lot of stuff on top of my desk, but it's mostly just a mess because I have been using it for work too for a while now
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I suppose I'll talk about my setup too :) My main setup is where I do digital art. I share an office with my SO, so we both have workspaces on opposite walls from each other. I work on a corner desk that holds my beefy computer, two monitors, and a Huion Kamvas GT-191. That's where I draw my comic and pretty much everything else done digitally. Ngl, it's a mess right now. I have comic notes and location floor plans in sketchbooks and DnD character sheets spread out all over the surface, and random pens and sticky notes. In the corner of the room, we have a nice large-format printer where I produce prints for conventions. I actually sketch my pages on an iPad pro in Procreate, so during the sketch phase, sometimes I'll just bundle up on my couch and do it, or before quarantine, sometimes I'd sketch on the go. My other workspace (which hasn't gotten much love as of late tbh) is a drafting table in the corner of our living room. I keep a tabletop easel on it and my Copic markers, as well as whatever I'm working on at the moment. (RN it's some ink washes.) The drawers hold all my ink, pencils, erasers, etc. Next to the drafting table is where I keep all my large charcoal, graphite, and oil pastel drawings (mostly school projects), and my large paintings. Other than that, I have a nifty little cart where I keep painting supplies :) I will say, this setup is by far an enormous improvement from my previous setups.
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kahtdraws · 4 years
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One of the first pieces of digital art I ever did with my first tablet was the very bad oekaki of lilly evans from harry potter on the left, drawn in 2005. It leaves a lot to be desired. But I was so proud of it at the time!
I only just was able to achieve my long time DREAM of owning a cintiq, and I kinda wanted to do a redux of one of my old drawings So on the right is my 2019 rendition of Lily and the first drawing I did with my cintiq! 
Again, I am very proud of it! But hopefully someday I will be good enough to look back on it with fond embarrassment as well lmao
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aishiikamii · 5 years
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i don’t want to overstep my boundaries here but i kind of have this friend who i’ve known her since 2011 and her art is the same is never changed !! it is killing me tbh because she refuse to take any of my advice seriously even tho she asked for them -i don't criticize art unless people ask me to do- and she always ask me but whenever i point to her mistakes she gets upset or -it doesn’t matter i am not drawing for money, degree...ect 
you don’t have to have a big goal to master what you do !! tho she’s the miss everything must be perfect kind of people 
and tbh what upset me more is that friend has a loving family -very rich and educated family- money wasn’t an issue for her and she always -somehow- print her works on cups t-shirts and giving them or sale them 
i love how creative she is but she criticize others and ask people to criticize her works even they don’t like to do this like me 
i always give her an advice to improve but she always finds her way to make an excuse to justify her laziness she has a wacom cintiq pro but  she never used it to draw a real picture just coloring her traditional sketches with it add some photoshop edits and that’s all !! i think if she tried harder she will become beyond professional skills 
it kind of painful for me when i see people with a lot of good potentials and waste them away !! 
personally i couldn’t support myself till i was able to make money by myself my first tablet i bought was in 2014 and it was small and cheap but when i really got into digital art i thought i should work harder to earn money and buy myself a cintiq that i still think i don’t deserve it,but since no one can stop me now i can buy whatever art supplies i want lmao 
i just wish she stop asking for my opinion and what she could do to improve !! her other friends spoil her with a lot of praises that they know and she knows it is a little bet over talk .... 
am i salty? maybe a little i just don’t like spoiled people and idk how we became friends 
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dimplesflint · 7 years
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holographings replied to your post
i've only ever had one tablet but so far i've used this one for 4 years and i've never seen it as.. slippery?? this isn't helpful at all lmao
the-night-painter replied to your post
I draw on a pretty small scale but I've never noticed it slipping really, might be the specific tablet. (I can never draw clean lines right myself lol) I had a rather basic wacom that was maybe $90 in like 2009 before I got my current one, and it was pretty good
ryuutales replied to your post
Hmmm there's all sorts in my experience! I've never been bothered by that personally, but I have seen different ones? I dont think its dependent on the quality of the tablet tho (: The plus of a 'glossy' surface is that it doesn't grind down on the pen nib as much. If what you're bothered by is the feel of it on your hand, there's gloves you can get for only your pinky (usually used for Wacom Cintiq tablet screens). Hope that helps? (:
Although if you're talking about your pen nib actually feeling slippery against the tablet surface then I'm pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen :o Although tablet surfaces do get worn out and glossier with time, but I dont think that should be that big of a factor :o
missfrenchygirl replied to your post
Of course since the surface of the tablet is plastic, it's much more "slippery" than paper, and it will be like this for every tablet (you can't really replicate the feeling of a pencil on paper) though i'm not sure at a 100% that it's what you mean by "slippery" and if it's linked to the quality of your tablet...
the "glossy/slippery" feeling is usually not as strong on tablets who has screens (the very expensive ones)? (maybe it's just psychological though cause you draw directly on the screen?) I don't know,I'm not sure, but I don't think it's a problem of quality, I believe you'll just have to get used to it: drawing on a tablet is very different than drawing traditionally
caesarsbuddy replied to your post
my current tablet (which ive had for 8+ years) is kinda slippery? like previous people has said,its not good if the surface is a bit grainy as it'll wear down the nib SO much. completely new tablets and nibs can be a bit more slippery since they're unused, i cant really say much as ive only had this one tablet
thanks so much for all the input! ♥♥♥ I had an inkling it might be just that I'm not used to the thing yet and also bc I just have dumb hands. I think if I decide to get a bigger tablet I'll try to see if I can get a feel of them at a shop somewhere bc that's the only way to know. :o I get that the surface can't exactly be coarse either, that wouldn't be good... :D idk maybe I was just expecting a more matte feel or something. The pen nib "touch" definitely feels a bit flimsy on it for me, but again that's maybe just me and I need to get a new pen soon anyway because somehow I've already almost broken this one oops. I did notice that I'll probably have to get the exact same pen though bc of compatibility issues otherwise but.. that will have to do. :o
anyway seriously thanks, this was really helpful guys ♥
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