#hjalti early-beard

[mirielsart]

Fun fact: towards the end of her life, my Vestige met a young Tiber Septim (or at least, Hjalti Early-Beard), and was not impressed. She found him obnoxiously loud.

#airam telvanni #eso vestige #elder scrolls online #tiber septim #hjalti early-beard #talos #the elder scrolls #eso fanart #mirielsart

[blackbyrenflowers]

The fact that Tiber Septim canonically has a brother that no one ever mentions is really funny.

Like here’s Tiber Septim/Hjalti Early-Beard/Talos of Atmora, known also as Ysmir; Dragon of the North, Dragon Prince, King of Earth and Sky, the Warrior Emperor, Heir to the Seat of Sundered Kings, True Emperor of Cyrodiil, Scion of Emperors, Lord of Shining Hosts, Protector of Oathman, Feeman, and Yeoman, Guarantor of Right and Justice, Broad Blessing of Thrones and Powers, Cynosure of Celestial Glory, The Most High, and the first Emperor of Tamriel. Say what you will about him, people clearly know who he is.

And then there’s Angiroth Septim. All we know about him is that he existed and had a daughter at some point.

Someone was clearly the brother getting mentioned in all the christmas cards.

#his daughter becomes emperor though #so thats a plus #still funny #elder scrolls #tiber septim #talos #hjalti early-beard

[electronicdelusionstarlight]

#tes #tes lore #talos #anti talos #technically? #zurin arcturus #ysmir wulfharth #tiber septim #hjalti early beard #skyrim #elder scrolls #elder scrolls lore #polls #tes poll #poll

[tindomizel]

i cannot substantiate this whatsoever but i feel like it would make a lot of sense for morihaus to have finished pelinal off after he defeated umaril, not ayleid sorcerers. like yes his head spoke to morihaus but speaking to the guy who just betrayed and decapitated you via your decapitated head is such a pelinal thing to do. pelinal was. well. pelinal. and i think alessia knew that to ensure the stability and prosperity of the alessian empire, she had to get rid of pelinal. i don't think she thought that he would turn against her, there just could not be peace while he was alive. the shezarrines are also ALWAYS killed by the person closest to them; ysmir wulfharth was killed by zurin arctus on the orders of hjalti early-beard, nerevar (yes i think he's a shezarrine shoot me) was killed by the tribunal. also a dragonborn is always involved in their death and what was alessia! idk just some food for thought

#tes #pelinal whitestrake

[uesp]

Pictured: Tiber Septim, Tiber Septim I, Talos Stormcrown, Hjalti Early-Beard, Tiberius Imperator, Talos, Dragonborn, Ysmir, Dragon of the North, Dragon Prince, the King of Earth and Sky, the Warrior Emperor, Our Glorious Emperor, Heir to the Empires of Man, Heir to the Seat of Sundered Kings, True Emperor of Cyrodiil, Scion of Emperors, Red King, Red Jewel of Conquest, Lord of Shining Hosts, Protector of Oathman, Feeman, and Yeoman, Guarantor of Right and Justice, Broad Blessing of Thrones and Powers, Cynosure of Celestial Glory, The Most High, Skyrim's Son, His Most Discerning Majesty, and the First Emperor of Tamriel.

#UESP #Lore #The Elder Scrolls #Oblivion

[nerevar-quote-and-star]

Hallo! I dunno if this has already been asked before so sorry if it’s repeated.

Is it confirmed that Tiber Septim is a true Dragonborn? With the blood and soul of a dragon other than due to being a Dragonborn emperor? I’ve been reading lore and there were conflicting accounts.

Thank you!

So the thing about TES lore — especially Tiber Septim/Talos lore — is that there's a lot of unreliable narrator. So much so that we really have to draw our own conclusions from what we're given. Was Tiber Septim Dragonborn? I think so. It's the best way to explain the Septim Dynasty. But there are others who are more skeptical. There's a lot of back and forth between Hjalti Early-Beard, Wulfharth Ashking, and Zurin Arctus and how they may be arranged and rearranged as Talos Stormcrown, Tiber Septim, and Talos the God of the Empire. It gets really meta and a bit unnecessary to argue about. We know Talos Stormcrown Shouted. We know he became Tiber Septim. We know he conquered Tamriel and founded the Empire. We definitely know from Morrowind and Oblivion that he became the God Talos.

Please note — I don't recognize a difference between the Dragonblood and dragon souls. Paarthurnax and Arngeir refer to the Last Dragonborn as having the Dragonblood, and while I may be able to dismiss Arngeir (if reluctantly), I think Paarthurnax knows what he's talking about. What I mean is — I think Martin could've learned to Shout if only given the opportunity. But that's just personal headcanon.

#tiber septim #talos #azura's ask box

[yffresbeard]

pet theory: Tiber Septim (i.e. Hjalti Early-Beard) wasn't actually a Dovahkiin - Wulfharth and he working as one in battle made it appear that way.

#the elder scrolls #elder scrolls #elder scrolls lore #tes lore

[boethiah]

Guy who says ‘by the 10’ but distinctly does not believe in Tiber Shittem and when you ask who the other two are he bounces between a mix of Manninarco, Saint Jiub, and the Numidium and then refuses to elaborate further on any of them

Bonus points if he’s a Nord or smth and has no reason to even THINK about the latter two

nordic guy who does believe in tiber septim but ONLY the part of tiber septim that was hjalti. nordic guy who isn't convinced of talos' divinity but really admires hjalti early-beard's identity theft

[caithyra]

But is not that THE Point?

Sometimes I like to watch what other say about the writing in The Elder Scrolls, and sometimes I run across people who, disappointed in watered down and discarded lore, try to use it it rewrites

Skyrim’s Civil War with the Stormcloaks and Talos worship is one such example when plenty of people who complain about the loss of previous lore try to use it in rewrites, and by doing so, completely misses the point of that the current story is telling (if clumsily and contradictory at times). They want the Stormcloaks’ conflict with the Empire be about venerating the old Nordic gods and be a tale about the uwunderdogs vs imperialism.

However, in the lore, this is established:

Talos is a relatively new god that has usurped the Nordic Ysmir by fusing the legend of Ysmir Wulfharth of Atmora together with Hjalti Early-Beard/Tiber Septim and his right hand Zurin Arctus, via a Dragon Break named the Warp in the West created by Tiber Septim whose propaganda made him Talos of Atmora even though no one has come to Tamriel from Atmora in literal eras because it is now a frozen wasteland. The whole Nordic worship of Talos itself is an Imperialist trick to ensure the Imperialization of the Nords (yes, Talos is a god and has the powers and whatnot, but this still Imperialized Skyrim faster by equating Hjalti with Ysmir).

Ulfric sparks two rebellions by taking the religious freedoms and ancestral lands from the Reachmen while loudly complaining that he cannot worship Talos like a TrueNordTM in his ancestral homeland (that, btw, he still rules as Jarl, oh and the whole Talos of Atmora bit should make Atmora more of his ancestral land than any part of Skyrim, much less south-western Skyrim!). This leaves the Reachmen devastated, divided and in serfdom to the Nords (and thus so much more worse off than Nords after the Talos ban). The Stormcloak side also complains a lot about lack of faith/loyalty among Imperials, and at this point Ulfric is sworn to the Empire and he breaks faith with it.

He is also sworn to his High King, that he murders with his Voice before running away (instead of staying and taking the throne like a TrueNordTM would have done). We learn that violently using the Voice unless you are Dragonborn is against another ancient Nord philosophy/religion “The Way of the Voice” as taught by the Greybeards to Ulfric when they taught him to Shout, and the Way of the Voice is an ancient Nord philosophy that he has then broken for his own ends.

We also learn how he mistreats/neglects the citizens of his own Hold (Dunmer, Argonians, women, orphans...), which is a complaint he raises against the Empire’s treatment of him and his Stormcloaks.

And finally, we learn that the Thalmor actually likes the Stormcloak Rebellion and that up until the Markarth Incident, Ulfric was working with them (now he’s “unknowingly” working for their interests though any dying brain cell would figure out that he’s supporting the Dominion with his actions [and I am under the belief that he sparked the Forsworn Rebellion for them, and to the Thalmor the Stormcloak Rebellion was an unexpected bonus, akin to Naarifin’s conquest of Cyrodiil], and also, why doesn’t he question all those convenient supplies and info that the Thalmor keeps dropping in his lap? Not that it stopped Tullius from defeating him in a few months in Ulfric’s own Hold...).

And then we have Froki blatantly telling us how Imperialized the current Nords are in their religion (though badly, if he was to be only rep for the old gods, he, and his questline, should have been much more developed, and he should have not been the only follower of the old ways).

Basically, the heart of the Stormcloak Rebellion, and the Civil War, is Hypocrisy and the Glorification of Ulfric Stormcloak.

That’s why it has to be Talos and cannot be Ysmir, Sai or Shor. The God of the Empire has to be worshiped by the Stormcloaks because he is the God of the Empire they rebel against (and thus their true loyalties when it comes to Talos worship are in question). He has to be the Breton impostor usurping a Nordic legendary hero-king-god to force everyone into his Empire, because it mirrors Ulfric’s duplicity and self-serving actions.

If it was any ancient Nordic god, it would have been about what Ulfric claimed it to be: The defense of Nordic religion and culture, and by extension, the Nordic peoples.

It is not. Just like how the current uber-Nord Talos of Atmora worship is all about the deification of Tiber Septim, a Breton from Alcaire, the Stormcloak Rebellion is all about the Cult of Personality of Ulfric Stormcloak.

That’s why we learn all those things above, and while yes, I wish we got the old Nordic faith (among others) fully represented in Skyrim, inserting it into the Civil War would have created a much different story and changed Ulfric’s character to be opposite of what he is. In this case, I feel that the writers either knew what they were doing (how it turned out in the game notwithstanding), or they accidentally created a consistent narrative about Ulfric’s (and the Stormcloaks’) hypocrisy.

#the elder scrolls #elder scrolls #tes #skyrim #reachmen #forsworn #talos #ysmir #wulfharth #tiber septim #zurin arctus #hjalti early-beard #ulfric stormcloak #stormcloak rebellion

[uuesp]

TES Memory: the Ghost of Old Hroldan wearing a full set of Ancient Nord Armor, despite being only around 700 years old.

For context, other spirits seen wearing this armor lived during the Merethic and First Eras, about 2000 years before the life and times of this ghost. Apparently, Cuhlecain had his late Second Era army outfitted with antiques.

#Lore #The Elder Scrolls #Skyrim #TES Memory #Ghost of Old Hroldan #Cuhlecain #Hjalti Early-Beard #Maybe that's why he died

[fortunatto]

some things from hearts day event in ru fandom ask Im in some things

#tes #nafaalilargus #ja'darri #nahfahlaar #eso #Tiber Septim

[ansu-gurleht]

yeah, id say if anything talos "mantled" wulfharth, who, despite being a shezzarine, probably became something entirely different, at least by the time he was underking.

so talos is either fake, or he's hjalti mantling wulfharth and zurin mantling the underking. since they technically mantled the same being, they all became one....-ish. enantiomorph, 1 and 1 and the one who can tell the difference or whatever. (mostly vivecian nonsense, i think, but there's some other good examples. dagoth, nerevar, vivec; anu, padomay, lorkhan(?); etc.)

#tes #tesblr #teslore #elder scrolls #the elder scrolls #talos #wulfharth #underking #the underking #tiber septim #hjalti early-beard #zurin arcturus #nerevar #dagoth ur #voryn dagoth #vivec #anu #padomay #lorkhan #shor

[reflectiondetonation]

please consider: your Breton Dragonborns screaming “TALOS’ REAL NAME WAS HJALTI EARLY-BEARD AND HE WAS A BRETON” in the streets of Windhelm

#tiber septim #hjalti early-beard #the elder scrolls #skyrim #tes

[colonel-killa-bee]

Had a little debate about Talos being a Breton or a Nord with a friend of mine. Most people think he had a Breton mother and a Nordic father, but this isn't stated anywhere that I could find, not even in Arcturian Heresy where I thought it called him a "Breto-Nord".

Now, he definitely looks Breton to me in Redguard and AH states he's from High Rock, but aside from that the only support of his being a Breton is MK.

Thoughts?

#Tiber Septim #Talos #the elder scrolls #elder scrolls lore #hjalti early-beard

[uesp]

Did You Know: According to a source claiming to be the Underking, Hjalti Early-Beard assassinated Emperor Cuhlecain and his loyalists? Hjalti would blame it on political enemies in High Rock, and the Imperial Battlemage Zurin Arctus would crown Hjalti as Emperor Tiber Septim.

#UESP #The Elder Scrolls #Lore #Emperor Zero #Hjalti Early-Beard #Tiber Septim #Underking #Breton #Imperial

[nerevar-quote-and-star]

Dragon's Tongue for the Skyrim Asks c:

Hey! 😃

Dragon's Tongue: Favorite Shout?

So I actually have three:

Become Ethereal is the most practical Shout in the entire game. No, I will not be taking criticism. Is it useful when fighting tough enemies? Yes. Is it great for throwing yourself off the Throat of the World and seeing how far you go? Doubly so! Best Shout.

But, Whirlwind Sprint is also freaking solid. You're over-encumbered? It's got you moving faster than a turtle. Need to bridge that gap? Ride the winds, my friend! Is there a river of LAVA BEFORE YOUR FEET?! Yeah, just sprint over that. No big deal. Honestly a Very Good Shout.

But Storm Call! Not, not nearly as practical in-game as Become Ethereal or Whirlwind Sprint, especially for that cooldown time and its potential to hit allies, but let's look at it another way. Now, this is my headcanon, so if someone else shares it or it rubs wrong at someone, to the first I say, "Cool beans!" and to the second, "Whatever, dude." Here it is: The Dragonborn mastering Storm Call fits into the idea that the Last Dragonborn has taken up the Stormcrown of Talos. When Hjalti Early-Beard Shouted down the gates of Old Hroldan, there was a storm around him. Usually, this is thought to be Wulfharth Ash-King, but that's not important. What is important is that Hjalti went into battle with a "storm crown" and came back victorious. This is (more than likely) why he was called Talos Stormcrown afterward. (Talos Stormcrown being the duality of Hjalti and Wulfarth isn't important here. We just want the crown, dang it!)

When the Greybeards officially recognize the Last Dragonborn, they all but place the "metaphoric" Stormcrown on their head. In mastering the Storm Call Shout, my theory goes that the Stormcrown is made manifest over the Last Dragonborn and it is truly theirs.

#thu'um #azura's ask box #ask game #stormcrown