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thormanick · 4 months
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The note at the bottom of the Tower of Ipsissimus is super important,
because it might outline what we will face in Natlan and Snezhnaya. (+ some other thoughts)
Of course, the contents of the note are important already simply because they mention the samsara cycles and the assumed names of ancient civilizations we haven't heard of before (Hyperborea and Natlantean/Natlantia(or Natlantis?)), but I think it is specifically important to focus on how exactly those samsara cycles and their names are related to the stages of possible soul evolution, and what that means for the further plot Genshin. Once again, I assume that the previously unknown names refer to ancient civilizations that existed in the place of current ones:
Hyperborean - loss of paradise - Snezhnaya
Natlantean - defeat of evil dragons - Natlan
Remuria - original sin and baptism - Fontaine
Khraun-Arya - freedom from the gods - Khaenri'ah/Sumeru
From the list above, several conclusions might be speculated:
The Traveler's story progression is in reverse order to the soul's evolution. I don't know what it says about the Traveler or their place in the world, I just find it interesting. It's almost like reading a book from the end to the beginning, I guess. I find it quite peculiar.
Two of the stages are already complete/have come to pass. Khaenri'ah was a nation free of the gods [I put Sumeru alongside Khaneri'ah because I speculate that, in some sense, to Sumeru Khaenri'ah was its own "ancient nation". By that I mean simply that Sumeru literally stands on the ruins of Khaenri'ah in the same way as Watatsumi stands on the ruins of Enkanomiya, and Fontaine stands on the ruins of Remuria (that presumably drowned) (I speculate the same will be true for Snezhnaya and Hyperborea, as well as Natlan and Natlantis(?)]. Otherwise, unlike other nations, Sumeru does not have a close link with Khaenri'ah (for example, I'd call Enkanomiya and Remuria somewhat a "parent state/nation" to current Watatsumi/Fontaine, but that does not work with Khaenri'ah and Sumeru (at least I think it doesn't currently)). To an extent, Sumeru could also be called "a nation without a god" - because the sages refused to accept Nahida as their god. At the same time, in Fontaine we witnessed both the original sin and the act of baptism (Neuvillette forgiving the sins of Fontainians). Thus, I assume that in Natlan we will witness the defeat of evil dragons, and in Snezhnaya we will see the loss of paradise. I assume that even though the stories themselves will not be straightforward, these are the results we might expect from them. Thus, I assume we might face a conflict between multiple parties in Natlan, and will not be able to stop whatever ruination strikes Snezhnaya (or Tsaritsa specifically).
Some other speculations that are worth mentioning that are related to the Narzissenkreuz quests:
Persona piece. It looks suspiciously like the gemstones used to ascend the characters to their highest level. I'm not sure if we all need to be worried about it or not. Personally I find it a bit suspicious. It also makes me think that the Gemstones can be considered Archons' personal Persona pieces (since each Gemstone reflects something, directly related to the Arhchon's ideals).
Heimarmene. I am now 99.8% sure that Visions do, indeed, power The Fate (TM) of the world. My speculation is as follows: the world of Teyvat inevitably goes through samsaras. Samsaras cannot be changed dramatically without an external variable (a Descender). To ensure the smooth running of the samsara, The Fate (TM) issues a Vision to a bearer. The fates of Vision bearers become locked in a way that 1) does not allow for a change to occur; 2) enforces a certain path on the bearer that is similar to the one of a person from the previous samsara. In this way, the samsara keeps running, because The Fate places all the elements into the right places.
Universitas Magistorum was mentioned in-game for the first time, at least for the first time I can recall. I think it is widely speculated to be Khaenri'ahn organization (it is mentioned in the description of the last Outlander Series namecard). I think it is indeed Khaenri'ahn, seeing as they were working on "reversing alchemical stages", "neglecting the fundamental principles of everything", etc. May they forgive me, but it sounds like a very Khaenri'ahn (or very Gold) way of doing things. The reversal of alchemical reactions makes me once again think of the Traveler's journey that is a reversal of soul's evolution (at least compared to the Ordo's notes).
Rhinedottir was called "R" for the first time (once again, in my memory). Just another reminder that she is part of Hexenzirkel.
Paimon, Traveler, and the build up for the separation anxiety. Once again, Pursuit I & II, I'm staring at you directly.
Chicken-Mushroom Skewers, aka [Traveler's gasp] "was this foreshadowing?!". Aka, why are you like this, Mihoyo. What is up with you and the skewers in Ordo's and Ordo-related quests (I'm just putting it here because I liked the reoccurring joke).
Arcadia popped up again (I say as I got reminded that Kaeya mentioned it once (1) so long ago it doesn't feel real).
Four specific concepts kept popping up: Rule(?), Sustain, Destroy, Create. They kept popping up in connection to the Traveler/the concept of the Descender, so I assume that these might be directly related to each of the Descenders. I think that Traveler was mostly mentioned alongside the idea of Creation (somewhere at the end of the Narzissenkreuz quest but I forgot where), so I'm interested to see how other Descenders could be aligned with other concepts (currently I suspect that the First came to rule, the Second came to sustain what was there, the Third was destroyed (and used to create the Gnosis) and the Traveler came to create (re-weave The Fate?). Perhaps each of the Descendants have a power to "chose" from these aspects with which to align themselves (through their actions and attitude), but that's a whole another speculation.
Alright, I think that's it for now. As you can see, I had a lot of thoughts. What great quests these were! Hope more of such interesting stuff will come in the future. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk X)
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dreamyyghost · 1 year
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This story is super interesting and y'all, take a look
ONWARD & UPWARD
I think it's cool that the reader is an antagonist/one of the Fatui! (and more than that too) The exploration of the lore is really intriguing! It's well-written and one of my faves! It's not yet completed, but still worth checking out!
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aieevee16 · 2 years
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Paimon Is From Khaenri'ah
So, I believe Paimon from Genshin Impact is from Khaenri'ah. Here me out!!
Someone on TikTok theorized that Sucrose is from Khaenri'ah and gave reasons as to why they think Sucrose is from Khaenri'ah. Some of those points got me thinking about Paimon.
Number 1: We know little to none about them.
We know nothing about Paimon, other than she's the Traveler fished her out, is not their Companion and Emergency Food. We're about to get some Sumeru Lore happening, and we don't have any bits of information about what Paimon is!
Number 2: Star/Galaxy Designs
There are three Characters we know so far who are related or was from Khaenri'ah. Kaeya, Albedo, and Dainslef. They all have some Star design on them. For example, Kaeya's gloves have Stars on the back, Albedo's Signature Star on his neck, and Dainslef... Who has a literal Galaxy Design on his cape. Now loom at Paimon, she has a Star pin and a Galaxy Design Cape just like Dain's. Even when she appears and disappears, there's constellations and stars float around her.
Number 3: No one's seen anything like her
No one in Teyvat has seen anything like Paimon. The Characters we've met along the way that they've never seen anything like Paimon in a certain way. They've also called her "A Mascot", "Floating Thing", and "Traveling Companion". Let's not forget the "Emergency Food" the Traveler gave to Paimon. And before you mention anything like there's Klee and Diaona, let me mention that their type of race is common in Teyvat.
And now here's some points I'd like to add
Dain and Paimon have the most similarities between each other out of anyone. There may be one or two for other characters, but Dain and Paimon have the most similarities.
Dain and Paimon have become Companions of the Twins, they have similar features, such as the Galaxy Design Cape and Star Designs. Dain also commented on Paimon before, but I can't remember where and what did he comment about.
There's also another character in the game that talks about how interesting Paimon is because they get to appear and disappear at will. This made Paimon change topics, like they she doesn't want anyone to find out about something.
There are some moments where characters call out Paimon for something she's done deemed "interesting", and Paimon seems to change the topic and move the conversation along as well.
This theory may be a stretch, and still unfinished, but there's a lot of clues that leads me to think that Paimon is from Khaenri'ah.
I did not realize I made a whole essay about this 😃😅
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cactusute-arts · 1 year
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Last hope of Khaenri'ah 🌌
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lvngdnxgallifrey · 10 months
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Seems Kaeya’s vision has 3 wings on each side now and is a combination of Mondstadtian vision and Khaenri’ah’s 8-pointed star. Except instead of two points there are wings on the bottom part. I’m very normal about it
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sleepzsharkz · 3 months
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You are our last hope.
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moni-harmonia · 2 years
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Things that we’ve learned about Kaeya and Diluc from HS
Kaeya and Diluc write letters to each other
Kaeya thought Diluc wouldn’t reply to his letters but Diluc actually does
They call each other K and D in the letters (which is kinda cute?)
They’re always looking out for each other. They show that they really care, they really care a lot
Kaeya informed Diluc about everything while he was away, and celebrated when they finally got their revenge on the man who sullied their father’s death
Diluc wants to act solo but he knows there might be times when they have to join forces and doesn’t mind
Diluc has so many of Kaeya’s letters around his house that he has kept
Also, Kaeya has really good handwriting
Kaeya’s eye was wounded when he fought Diluc, but he was not blinded. He wanted to pretend that he was, but Diluc knows the truth
Meaning that Kaeya can perfectly see with his right eye and he wears the eyepatch for another reason
Kaeya doesn’t blame Diluc for the fight, he knows that it was bad timing
Kaeya’s family, the Alberich Clan, were not the original rulers of Khaenri’ah but they took over. Which means that Kaeya is really a prince in a way
His family wanted to revive Khaenri’ah but couldn’t. They still want to continue with their plans (They might be allies with the Abyss Order then?)
Kaeya only has a small paper that talks about his clan that he saved when his birth father tried to eliminate all evidence
Kaeya’s melancholic when he thinks about his Clan and his birth father
Kaeya misses the Winery and goes there frequently, he spent a few days there while Diluc was still away. Kaeya stayed in his old bedroom and all the staff is happy with him
Kaeya has kept some of the seashells they found when they were kids (I’m crying at this)
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gideoff · 1 year
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cmmssn for a friend 
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i think the funniest thing about Genshin is how the storyline completely fucks you over.
the beginning is pretty straightforward, honestly: you and your sibling were traveling to this world and had a fight with a god that you lost. you crash landed and ended up in a coma. woke up, your sibling is missing, and you go off to talk to different god and try and find your sibling.
if you pay even mild attention to the storyline and fast-forward a couple adventures,
there's some primordial god fucking with you, none of the gods you've met are actually really gods technically, there's been like 5 different civilizational genocides in the past 500 years that nobody seems particularly concerned about, your sibling is and isn't your sibling and is also maybe evil? (unclear), the world may be in a time loop, NPCs die every other world quest, the key to all your questions is a nation that got completely smited and cursed 500 years ago, and your most helpful kind-of ally is the guy that shows up once a year, cryptically trauma dumps some lore, and then fucks off again.
welcome to genshin impact.
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huiyi07 · 8 months
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GENSHIN MANGA SPOILERS! but honestly if you haven’t read it by now it’s your fault alone
So why did Kaeya initially try to hurt Collei?
The obvious answer- he was trying to defend Mondstadt, Collei was a very suspicious figure at the time, and he knew that being aggressive towards her would probably draw out her hidden powers and reveal herself as the culprit of the Black Fire incident.
But there’s more to it than that.
Kaeya canonically loves, LOVES kids. He adores them- there’s lots of times in the game where he talks about how precious childhood is and how he wants to protect the purity of childhood dreams for as long as possible before kids have to grow up and face the real world (kinda similar to Childe). In 3.8, it shows how he is literally willing to do anything to protect a child- Klee, when he literally throws aside his own sibling issues in order to shield Klee from being exposed to the same thing and scolds a couple of bickering brothers for upsetting her.
Additionally, there’s his whole thing with Mika and how he’s basically a big brother figure to the entirety of Mondstadt’s population under 17. The highly implied bond between Bennett, Razor, Fischl and him, even.
Anyway this whole aspect of his character obviously stems from his own childhood and how tainted it was by his hidden identity, so like he probably doesn’t want any other kids to have to go through such hardship especially while they’re still young.
So if he loves kids so much, and wants to protect them so badly, why did he not hesitate to become a full blown villain against Collei, literally wounding an innocent 12-year old girl?
Because he sees himself in her.
Collei hates herself (or at least she used to LOL). She hates the burden (her powers) that was forced upon her from a young age, and those powers inevitably label her as a bad person, one who can harness evil powers to kill And hurt and whatever. It makes her feel like she has no real control over herself, and that she has no self-identity- she doesn’t think of herself as a regular person, instead a monster. And she hates, hates, hates herself for it, but she shoves all of it down under a mask.
Sound familiar to a certain cavalry captain?
That’s why Kaeya didnt hesitate to Go after her. He knows her too well, knows that she’s hiding her true identity under a well-crafted face, that there’s something evil and dark in her- because that’s exactly who he was as a kid.
But then this panel happens.
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Collei, evidently so tired of living such a torn life, gives up and offers her life to Kaeya just so that the torment can end, which stops Kaeya in his tracks, because that’s when she reminds him off himself just a little too much.
Kaeya, so caught up in her uncontrollable evil, forgets that she’s just a child, one who never should’ve been forced to deal with such a thing, and certainly not want to die because of it.
That’s exactly what happens internally to him, as well. Over the years, Kaeya internalized being a traitor so much, that often he convinces himself that he’s truly not a good person. Yes, he acknowledges that it’s really not his fault, but that still gets lost and it shows through when Kaeya shows us how willing he is to get himself harmed- because of his self hatred, he places so little value in his own wellbeing and his own life, because he thinks that all harm that comes to him is deserved and that it’s better off if he’s dead anyway so that he doesn’t have to deal with being torn apart every day.
No I’m not making this up, it’s in how he literally covers for Diluc all the time and risks himself in the process, and how Adelinde told us about that one time Kaeya literally took Diluc’s punishment for himself when they snuck into the wine cellars. There’s lots of times, even throughout in the game where Kaeya tries to convince us he’s not a good person- he quite literally says that, at some point.
Only when Collei shows that she’s in the exact same position does Kaeya realize what he’s doing and stops himself. Only then does he remember how painful and hard it really is, and he ends up helping to save Collei and removing her powers, because that’s one burden he can help take off, unlike his own.
Idk man for me the Kaeya vs Collei fight (I like to call it the chapter where collei gave us the hottest panel of Kaeya choking ever) told a story about Kaeya’s internalizations, too, and his own-self hatred and how deep it really goes. BRB CRYING
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saewokhrisz · 1 year
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“no more red skies....”
alternative title: “ Chlothar and his son Caribert”, inspired by the painting “Ivan the terrible and his son Ivan” by repin, this quest just made me think of it :’)
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thormanick · 2 years
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The audible gasp I had-
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"it's impossible to turn back time but if I could talk to myself as easily as I look in the mirror" "I would tell myself absolutely everything to fulfill my duty as the protector of my kingdom" "But would it change the predetermined fate?"
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valenteal · 2 months
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Okay so. Diluc and Kaeya. People do like, realize that Kaeya legit told Diluc he was sent to infiltrate Mond for a hostile nation right? Like, Diluc isn’t pissed because of the timing (though I’m sure it didn’t help). Kaeya straight up told him that he was an agent of Khaenri'ah and that his loyalty may not be to Mond. As far as Diluc is concerned Kaeya is literally an enemy agent. And you can’t say that he should realize Kaeya isn’t loyal to Khaenri’ah either. Kaeya takes pleasure in putting people in tough situations, Diluc is aware of this, and this is the toughest position ever. His brother, who he loves dearly, is an enemy agent who may be a huge threat to his country that he also loves dearly. But Kaeya seems torn, so he can’t disregard the possibility that Kaeya isn’t an enemy. But what if it’s all just a trick? What if Kaeya knew Diluc wouldn’t be able to turn him in? What if he’s laughing at Diluc’s soft heart? It’s an impossible situation and Diluc may love Kaeya but he also can’t trust him anymore.
Kaeya and Diluc will never be able to reconcile until Kaeya proves once and for all that his loyalty is to Mondstadt.
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lavenderfumes · 1 year
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✧ I recognise your eyes…
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mintyisdrawing · 5 months
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Kaeya appreciation post 'cause I love him 🥰💙
IG: mintysarts
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