#fvii rebirth spoilers

[silvergreenseraphim]

The Relationship Between Glenn and Rufus

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Glenn, a messenger from Wutai, appears often before Rufus. Though their conversations suggest that the two were old acquaintances, the exact nature of their relationship remains a mystery. Here is a summary of their meaningful exchanges and the relationship between them and Wutai as depicted in related works.

In the small box, it has some information on Rufus and Team Glenn’s connections to Wutai.

In "FVII Before Crisis", four years ago, Rufus lent a hand to the Wutai-based Avalanche.

Glenn comes into contact with Sephiroth, who was dispatched to Wutai seven years ago, in the opening of "The First Soldier" arc of "FFVII Ever Crisis".

Matt and Lucia, who were Glenn's colleagues (introduced by Yuffie in CHAPTER 7 as the "three ex-soldiers"), appear as captains in flashback scenes of the original Avalanche soldiers.

A small text wall next to Glenn’s death scene says:

When Rufus heard Glenn's name in Junon, a vision of him shooting a man flashes through his mind.

Text wall beside the “Please contact Captain Matt” dialogue says:

It appears that Matt and Lucia were participating in the operation to attack the Shinra Building.

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Examples of Important Conversations Between Glenn and Rufus

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Rufus: "You're alive?"

Glenn: "Most certainly dead.”

(This was a bit of dialogue in the game that was difficult to translate. If anyone has a correction for it, please let me know. It appears that Glenn says he is “Dead, of course” to Rufus’ statement).

Rufus is surprised at Glenn's survival, and Glenn responds with a laugh. It sounds like a joking response, but based on his later words and actions, it may not be a joke at all.

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Rufus: "The Governor will not stand on such a poor set.”

Glenn: "I see! Growing up a young master/rich kid is so bothersome.”

Rufus said these words as if he knew Sufur’s personality well. Glenn calls Sufur a rich kid/brat, but in Junon, he also mocked Rufus, saying, “Fond of (drawing) visions as ever, young master/rich kid).”

(I once again have been trying to receive help on this specific line because the connection here is how Glenn calls both Sufur and Rufus “Botchan,” which is an interesting term for a rich young master or boy. More in this in another post).

Glenn & Sephiroth: "Our 'Promised Land' will be born." Good (for you), you’ve succeeded your father.”

In the commentary scene, Sephiroth's appearance and voice overlap with Glenn, implying that Glenn's actions up to that point were in line with Sephiroth's intentions.”

Glenn: “As good at shooting people in the back as ever.”

A line that suggests that Rufus once shot Glenn in the back. It is also revealed in this scene that the person who had been thought to be Glenn was one of those in the black cloaks.

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My translations are rough at the moment because I am hurrying, but I trust that I was able to get the essential parts accurate.

This is not much new information but I would say it confirms some things.

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1. Glenn is dead.

2. It was a black cloak in line with Sephiroth’s intentions. Based on the other instances where black cloaks interact with Cloud with Sephiroth’s intentions, it is safe to say that this was also Sephiroth. A part of his will perhaps.

3. There is nothing suggesting that this was Jenova, as some were saying.

4. Sephiroth heavily mocks Rufus at every chance he gets and appears to hate him passionately.

5. Glenn came in contact with Sephiroth 7 years after Sephiroth was dispatched to Wutai. This is the opening of the First Soldier.

6. Rufus and the Before Crisis plot of his involvement with Avalanche has been confirmed.

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#now to keep working on an analysis post with the rest of “glenn’s” dialogue #glenn lodbrok #team glenn #rufus shinra #sephiroth #wutai #ffvii rebirth #fvii first soldier #ffvii #final fantasy 7 #ff7 #the first soldier #fvii rebirth spoilers #rebirth spoilers

[noizplayssomestuff]

Ouuu that proto relic minigame in Junon was fun though. I liked fort condor either way but having an additional layer was neat

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[arkwngel]

king and queen 🤴🏼👸🏼

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[gaylight-prairie]

thank you.

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[theresistanceneverquits]

No cuz the fact that Cloud never revealed himself to Tifa during the Nibelheim incident so she doesn’t think he was ever there vs Cloud having thought that Sephiroth killed Tifa so now they’re both looking at the other and being uncertain how each other is real

Tied with the og game when Cloud becomes convinced he doesn’t exist aND THIS JUST HELPS PUSH THAT POINT

#ffvii rebirth #ffvii #final fantasy vii #fvii spoilers #there is a perfectly reasonable explanation here #but since Cloud’s memories come from Zack and Tifa #he’s not gonna know

[xxjustshakeitupxx]

I really LOVE how certain people (*cough*Tifa haters*cough*) really blame Tifa for not confronting Cloud about what really happened, in her mind, in Nibelheim, like that would be, in any way, a smart thing to do.

Also she did? In Kalm?? She said he wasn't there??

That only made Cloud suspicious of her, who is being plagued by doubts from Sephiroth that she's DEAD, so pushing it would only make him pull away.

Also, near the end, Cloud is goddamn erratic and unstable, I know for a fucking fact none of them would dare confront Cloud about it. Like, yeah, tell him that everything he knows is wrong when you witnessed him threateningly chase Aerith for the Black Materia, saw him acting like Aerith isn't DEAD, and is saying there's something wrong with the sky when, to you, nothing is wrong, yeah that's a smart fucking move lol.

#ff7 rebirth spoilers #ff7 rebirth #ffvii rebirth spoilers #fvii rebirth #cloud strife #tifa lockhart

[sevi007]

FVII rebirth spoilers (nothing noteworthy):

Cait Sith is having a lot of fun trolling Palmer and the Turks while at Gold Saucer

#ffvii rebirth #sevi plays ffvvii rebirth #cait sith

[little-miss-selfships]

Fvii / rebirth spoilers

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa (also cloud move it's mine turn for that hug lmfao)

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[veilder]

So, I just played through the demo for FFVII:Rebirth and I have some thoughts! (Spoilers for the original FVII from here on out!)

Listen, it was good. It… It encompassed a scene from the OG game where Cloud recounts what exactly happened between him and Sephiroth before the events of the game. It's told in this really long flashback segment, so it was kinda perfect to showcase a demo for. It's interesting, my reaction to it, though? Because on one hand, it was very cool. Seeing these environments with 3D graphics, hearing the characters speak their lines, seeing just how… strange the disconnect is between Cloud then and Cloud present day, etc. It was all really well done. There's no argument it outshines the original game on all those facets.

But the atmosphere…

I feel like something was definitely lost in the translation. This is one of the most pivotal scenes in the entire game. This is where you find out who Sephiroth really is and just what drove him mad. In the original game, his turn was one of my absolute favorite moments (sad as it is). Because you see him piecing together his origins little by little until he just… snaps. All is quiet save for the constant chime of a bell and a steady rhythm like a heartbeat as you confront him a final time. He recounts what it is he's been reading in the long-forgotten records he's uncovered. He tells you of his origin--his creation. And then he stops speaking to you entirely. He says Mother is waiting. That he's going to see her.

And then the music starts. That horrible, haunting music as he sweeps past you with far too much ease, leaving you to scramble behind him in his wake. And when you return to the village--Cloud's hometown--you see it in flames, the dead and dying littering the square. And in the midst of it all, Sephiroth, wreathed in fire, slicing through them as he marches ever-onward towards the mountain where Jenova--his mother-- resides.

It's a chilling scene. There is tension and horror and fear inlaid in all of it. And the Demo version had those scenes, yes, but… The timing was different. The pacing was off. It didn't hit quite how it should have. (And listen, I also have a bit of an issue with Sephiroth's English VA. I get he was going for the whole "stoic and emotionless" vibe with him, which is fine, it suits him most of the time. But when he's actively losing his mind? When he's making crazed speeches? There should've been something! We only really got a few small moments where it seems like he gives in to any emotion at all, and they weren't conveyed through dialogue. Oof.) It was good. But it definitely didn't make me feel the same.

I think, between the new orchestration and arrangements of the music, the pacing that I felt dragged on just a little too long, and the unnecessary quicktime events and sequences of Cloud limping through Nibelheim (which were so slow as to be noticeably irritating for me >_>), Rebirth just didn't hit quite as hard. Still an excellent sequence in what I'm sure will be a great game, but yeah.

Just my two cents here! Definitely still looking forward to the full game release at the end of the month! :D

#ffvii #ffvii rebirth #ffvii rebirth demo #my thoughts #there was so much to love in the demo though #ugh Cloud acting... *that* way had me all up in my feels :( #all the other VAs did a fantastic job #(shoutout to unnamed Shinra trooper iykyk >_>) #teenager Tifa was a delight #the way the present day group interjected at parts was also great #and I do appreciate all the tiny little tidbits of lore expansion we got too (Zangan has a first name? :0) #ugh now I just wanna go read FFVII fanfic again >_> #dammit...

[silvergreenseraphim]

A mother’s demented son

#all i can provide as i chip away at translations are these screenshots 🥲 #but look at him #he is smitten #and completely mad #sephiroth #final fantasy 7 #ffvii #ff7 #fvii rebirth #ffvii rebirth spoilers #rebirth spoilers #jenova

[silvergreenseraphim]

An interesting note, but Sephiroth’s eye pupil dilation was always there. It is shown in the OG cutscene when he finally draws his last breaths. Why that causes his pupils to shrink, I don’t know.

In Rebirth, they are expanding.

(Very stupid joke below)

#context: one of sephiroth’s flashes after his pupils expand is this shot of hojo #sorry i am being cursed #anyway sephiroth always had cat eyes :) #sephiroth #final fantasy 7 #ff7 #ffvii #fvii rebirth #rebirth spoilers #nibelheim flashback

[silvergreenseraphim]

Mild Rebirth Spoilers Below (Press Release Screenshots).

New Shots of Sephiroth:

(Line from the trailer trying to confuse Cloud about Tifa).

Also, one unfortunate implication…

Hojo will indeed be a hologram in the Shinra Manor 🥲

#please ignore this if you want to avoid any spoilers at all #these are not that revealing of course but some may find these to be too much #sephiroth #shinra manor #hojo #rebirth spoilers #ffvii rebirth spoilers #ff7 rebirth spoilers #spoilers #final fantasy 7 #ff7 #ffvii #fvii rebirth

[noizplayssomestuff]

Coming straight out of finishing Crisis Core makes the whole Nibelheim sequence so much worse in the best possible way

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[noizplayssomestuff]

Of course I get lost trying to look around for treasure in the Nible mountain (because Cooud gets slow as ass when you leave the path)....truly I have the sens of orientation only rivaled by a cucumber

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[noizplayssomestuff]

Ah yes, LittleShit!Sephiroth. Missed you buddy, welcome back on my screen

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