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lailoken · 7 months
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ok this is prolly a Dumbass question. but a lot of witchcraft ppl seem to use plants like datura, belladona, aconite, for their psychoactive properties in witchcraft- Are there any witchcraft people that just skip the whole plant foraging/gardening/obtaining bit and decide to just do shrooms or acid, or benadryl/dph i guess if one happens to just like deleriants? dph is rlly bad for health (is so bad) but tbh so is datura,.. though dph you can usually get at a convenince store. Or is it not considered spiritual if it’s a synthetic?
(I dont mean this to be offensive btw i think occult things r cool and im faded than a hoe rn. Coolio blog)
I'm sure there are practitioners who attempt to undergo Poison Path work using only synthetic drugs, but I don't really know anything about that, and so I can't speak to it very well.
I do, however, believe that working with the spirits of plants is at least as important to the process of such work as the psychoactive effects. I can grasp working with the spirit of Belladonna, but I have a much harder time envisioning myself trying to work with the spirit of a drugstore antihistamine. I also believe it's meaningful that many entheogenic plants (such as ones you listed here, including Psilocybin Mushrooms) have a longstanding traditional record of religious/cultic usage by initiated masters in their respective cultures. For these reasons, among others, I would not consider using synthetic, storebought drugs.
I also think there is a big difference between someone who messes around with party drugs and likes the idea of trying to get a bit spiritual with it, and someone who conscientiously dedicates themselves to Poison Path work. Altered brain chemistry can help the mind to see past certain filters and preconceptions, and it can also help one to look inward, but if there isn't a thoughtful, purposeful, and spiritual framework behind using an entheogenic substance, then it seems likely that it's mostly about getting high.
Finally, I want to add that, while substances such as datura are definitely dangerous, they are often used with far more reverence, caution, and frugality when approached by a serious practitioner. My husband is Oathbound to the Tutelary Spirit of Datura, but only once, under extraordinary circumstances, has that included using the plant entheogenically. He undertook the ritual with fearful respect and the utmost care, and it was an extremely meaningful experience for him, but it's not one he's likely to undertake again anytime soon. As he puts it, "She is a harsh teacher." I think part of the reason so many of these plants (particularly poisonous varieties of Ranunculaceae and Solanacea) are as harsh as they are is because they demand commitment and humility (along with self-defense, of course), which is why you pretty much hear only horror stories from most folks who attempt to use such substances lightly.
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prairiefirewitch · 7 days
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Last year was pretty poor for my daturas so when I planted dozens of seeds this winter and only a single one sprouted, I thought this might be the first year in a long time that I would have no plants. I had jars of seeds from Mescalero that were a bit old, and jars of various seed varieties from my own plants, plus a few seed packets from Eimi and I tossed a bunch in a plastic strawberry tray and didn’t feel hopeful. But lo, datura seedlings have sprouted, 125 by my count and I have no idea what varieties I’ve got here.
I made the girls a nursery out of an old display box I made and I’ll know in a week or so which varieties I’ve got. So far I think I’ve got inoxia and wrightii but I’m really hoping for a few metels. If I have lots of survivors, I’ll be building a new bed because I’m out of space and didn’t expect to need to find room for dozens more plants. 🖤
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banefolk · 8 months
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Last summer’s datura inoxia crop. I grow and harvest my own datura to make a herbal salve. I’ve been making datura ointment for over a decade. Most people use it for medicine for severe pain, inflammation, insomnia, and anxiety rather than as a flying ointment. It’s my mom’s favourite for her arthritis pain.
I’ve been growing datura for 15 years now. I fell in love after smelling my first fragrant trumpet flower and I’ve been a goner ever since. Datura has my heart and has always been kind to me despite her fearsome reputation. Don’t mess with her and she won’t mess with you.
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entheognosis · 6 months
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There are many references to women greasing up staffs, pipes, and sticks with flying ointment, and going for a merry joy ride. In the 15th Century, Jordanes de Bergamo wrote that “they anoint a staff and ride on it to the appointed place or anoint themselves under the arms and in other hairy places.” You get the impression that he didn’t mean the upper lip.
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Micheal Harner in Hallucinogens and Shamanism asserted:
The use of a staff or broom was undoubtedly more than a symbolic Freudian act, serving as an applicator for the atropine-containing plant to the sensitive vaginal membranes as well as providing the suggestion of riding on a steed, a typical illusion of the witches’ ride to the Sabbat.
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Somewhere along the line, the observation was made that the hallucinogenic compounds, hyoscine in particular (also known as scopolamine), could be absorbed through sweat glands (especially in the armpit) or mucus membranes of the rectum or vagina. These routes of administration also bypassed rapid metabolism by the liver (and severe intestinal discomfort) had the user drank the boiled up plant extract.
David Kroll
Forbes Magazine
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breath-of-venus · 4 months
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“A very safe unguent can be made by even the novice herbalist by infusing 4 tbsp of mugwort and 4 tbsp of wormwood in one cup of sweet almond oil in a 200 degree oven for four hours. After the oil has cooled, strain the mixture with cheesecloth to remove the plant matter, then measure the resulting oil and add beeswax in a ratio of one part wax to five parts oil. Reheat in a clean pan to melt the wax, then pour into a jar and allow to cool before using. Apply to the chest, neck, back, and pulse points to aid in spirit flight.”
Folk Witchcraft, by Roger J. Horne
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Flying Ointment 
Flying ointment is a hallucinogenic ointment said to have been used by witches in the practice of European witchcraft from at least as far back as the Early Modern period, when detailed recipes for such preparations were first recorded and when their usage spread to colonial North America.
It has been a subject of discussion between clergymen as to whether witches were able physically to fly to the Sabbath on their brooms with help of the ointment, or whether such 'flight' was explicable in other ways: a delusion created by the Devil in the minds of the witches; the souls of the witches leaving their bodies to fly in spirit to the Sabbath; or a hallucinatory 'trip' facilitated by the entheogenic effects of potent drugs absorbed through the skin.
Some sources have claimed that such an ointment would best be absorbed through mucous membranes, and that the traditional image of a female witch astride a broomstick implies the application of flying ointment to the vulva. While not explicit, certainly open to interpretations both drug-related and sexual. It is also a very early account of such practices, pre-dating by some centuries witch trials in the early modern period.
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friend-crow · 2 years
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Somebody mentioned flying ointment this morning, which reminded me of this story...
My friend stayed over at my house on New Years Eve in 2019. My roommate and his (Wiccan) girlfriend were supposed to go to a party but decided to spend all night ranting to us about her friend group drama and making the garage smell like migraine instead.
The girlfriend had brought a flying ointment made by her coworkers, and was very insistent that we try some. So, not knowing what exactly was in it other than crisco, we each put a little bit on each wrist (don't do this).
When we woke up in 2020 the next day, we were both like "I didn't dream shit," and kind of rolled our eyes.
Flash forward to July of that year. We're four months into the pandemic and two months into daily protests and nightly tear gassing. Trump has declared our town an "anarchist jurisdiction" and sent DHS in, and they've been snatching protesters into unmarked vans and basically occupying downtown.
One night I get a text from my friend saying, "Do you ever think that maybe we're still asleep and this is all the flying ointment dream?"
I hadn't, but now it's something that I consider from time to time.
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man henbane either just knocks me tf out, giving deep and dreamless sleep OR it’s the most vivid, visceral, unsettling experience
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breelandwalker · 1 year
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Oh great and wise Bree, do you know a recipe for flying ointment?
Great and wise though I be (at least according to some), I don't happen to have any in my repertoire. I know OF a few recipes, largely the concoctions allegedly brewed up by accused witches during the old witch trials. They include pretty much every nasty thing you can think of. The rundown usually reads like one of those Halloween party games where you stick your hands in a blind box and the host tells you what gross thing you're supposed to be touching.
The ointment usually started with some kind of grease or tallow, commonly cited by prosecutors as fat from children or hanged men, obtained through murder or grave robbery. Then they'd throw in whatever off-putting bodily secretion or excretion was most shocking at the time, along with a selection of organs and body parts. And to top it off, a whole bouquet of herbs commonly associated with witchcraft in local folklore, such as henbane, belladonna, mugwort, wormwood, and so on.
According to historians who are NOT Margaret Fucking Murray, these recipes were almost certainly the invention of prosecutors and religious philosophers who spent their spare time dreaming up all kinds of horrible things that witches might be doing, based on gossip, local folklore, or their own twisted imaginations.
Despite modern revisionist lore and the presence of mind-altering ritual substances in many pre-Christian traditions, there is no evidence that flying ointments as described by trial records ever truly existed. Whether people were making hallucinogenic substances for recreational purposes that may have induced sensations of flying or visions of wild forest parties is a discussion for another time.
There are certainly modern recreations and interpretations made by witches and apothecaries today, thankfully without the use of sheep's brains or corpse dust. These are usually purported to induce visions, assist with lucid dreaming, or facilitate astral travel. And yes, some of them include the same herbs mentioned above.
It's important to note that the dose very much makes the poison with most of these substances. A reputable supplier will provide a full list of ingredients, health warnings, and instructions for use with their product. And if you're interested in trying such things, I STRONGLY recommend getting it from a professional rather than trying to brew it up yourself, unless you're very experienced with the safe preparation and use of the usual herbs.
Anyway, hope this helps and travel safely!
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verdantlyviolet · 2 years
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Earliest known mention of a 'flying ointment' was used by Hera in the Iliad, dated 8th - 7th century BCE. A flying ointment is a hallucinogenic ointment said to have been used by witches to achieve ‘flight,’ whether the implication is physical or spiritual.
With ambrosia first did she cleanse from her lovely body every stain, and anointed her richly with oil, ambrosial, soft, and of rich fragrance; were this but shaken in the palace of Zeus with threshold of bronze, even so would the savour thereof reach unto earth and heaven. Therewith she anointed her lovely body [...] (14.171-6)
[...] but Hera darted down and left the peak of Olympus; on Pieria she stepped and lovely Emathia, and sped over the snowy mountains of the Thracian horsemen, even over their topmost peaks, nor grazed she the ground with her feet; and from Athos she stepped upon the billowy sea, and so came to Lemnos, the city of godlike Thoas. (14.226-31)
[Hera and Hypnos] left the cities of Lemnos and Imbros, and clothed about in mist went forth, speeding swiftly on their way. To many-fountained Ida they came, the mother of wild creatures, even to Lectum, where first they left the sea; and the twain fared on over the dry land, and the topmost forest quivered beneath their feet. (14.282-6)
[Zeus] “Hera, with what desire art thou thus come hither down from Olympus? Lo, thy horses are not at hand, neither thy chariot, whereon thou mightiest mount.” (14.298-9)
-Perseus
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Flying Ointment 
Flying ointment is a hallucinogenic ointment said to have been used by witches in the practice of European witchcraft from at least as far back as the Early Modern period, when detailed recipes for such preparations were first recorded and when their usage spread to colonial North America.
It has been a subject of discussion between clergymen as to whether witches were able physically to fly to the Sabbath on their brooms with help of the ointment, or whether such 'flight' was explicable in other ways: a delusion created by the Devil in the minds of the witches; the souls of the witches leaving their bodies to fly in spirit to the Sabbath; or a hallucinatory 'trip' facilitated by the entheogenic effects of potent drugs absorbed through the skin.
Some sources have claimed that such an ointment would best be absorbed through mucous membranes, and that the traditional image of a female witch astride a broomstick implies the application of flying ointment to the vulva. While not explicit, certainly open to interpretations both drug-related and sexual. It is also a very early account of such practices, pre-dating by some centuries witch trials in the early modern period.
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lailoken · 2 years
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do you ever use any kind of flying ointment? if so would you be okay sharing if there are any oils that you especially like to use as a base?
I have a personally devised 'Specter Oil' that I uses on rare occasions. It is essentially a Flying Ointment, and it possesses a base of Pomegranate Seed Oil.
I'm curious to know what others in this niche of tumblr find most conducive as the oleum base in Flying Ointments they make and/or use.
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prairiefirewitch · 8 months
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There’s just something about a flying ointment that’s Elphaba-green. This is the Liminal Space blue lotus dream flight ointment in the Hekate ritual kit and I’m so pleased with the way it turned out. This is an excellent tool to facilitate dream and trance work. Blue lotus is a euphoric and produces vivid dreams while improving dream recall.
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frenchwitchdiary · 2 years
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Petite récolte hier de baies de belladone, aka la cerise du Diable, ma Solanacée préférée 🖤 mais aussi de graines d’ipomée bleue, de datura, de tabac, de ricin et de pavot maritime.
(attention à ce que vous faites toutefois, la majorité de ces plantes sont psychoactives et très toxiques, voire mortelle même pour cette quantité de belladone dans ma main)
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aerikarkadian · 2 months
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friend-crow · 2 years
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So, flying ointment?
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Yeah, I honestly don't have much to say about this... I don't have a recipe and probably wouldn't share one if I did. I've also seen a certain amount of bad and potentially dangerous information out there, so...
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