I remember seeing a post floating around on Tumblr about a 1980s anime movie that had some strong parallels to utena (especially with the rose bride and rose related imagery I think) but now I can't remember the name or find the post. Since you're the resident utena expert I wondered if you have any idea about what movie that could be or if you knew of any other stuff that might have had influence on utena and would be worth checking out. If not no worries and thanks for all the great work you do.
I'm going to guess the movie you're thinking about is Belladonna of Sadness, though that's much older, at 1973. Note: EVEN THE TRAILER HAS EXPLICIT NUDITY AND STYLIZED BUT HONESTLY PRETTY SHOCKING DEPICTIONS OF RAPE.
I honestly can't recall if anyone in Be-Papas ever brought this movie up specifically, but I cannot stress enough how obviously it is part of the DNA of Revolutionary Girl Utena. This was a film absolutely all of the creative team would likely have seen. Not only is it a major work of animation from the era, it's very much adjacent to the world of 70s ass musical theater abstract rage art that Ikuhara ate up so hard that alumni of it ended up working on Utena. (Seazer doing the duel choruses, there's even a lost musical by Ei Takatori, more on that another day.)
This isn't one of those 'lol check out this shot to shot comparison it's identical' kinds of things. While Ikuhara makes explicit references more often in later work to pop culture of note, Utena's vibe is more about digesting those inspirations, instead of decorating with them. Belladonna of Sadness is a film that feels like Utena content when you watch it. Visually, it's so much its own thing, but the shocking delicacy of Utena's most explicit scenes, the way rape is depicted, those sensibilities definitely have their origin in this film, in part.
It's not an easy watch, definitely look into content warnings for it, but those pass for you, it's probably one of, if not my top, recommendations for what to explore to find Utena's inspirations.
Another film with similarly deeply obvious vibes:
Lost Highway: This David Lynch film came out while Utena was being produced. I saw it before seeing Utena because I was Smashing Pumpkins trash as a teenager and they did a bop for the OST. I can't stress enough how much the Akio Arc is inspired by this film. Don't believe me? Listen to this:
The work of Shuji Terayama is very obvious as inspiration spiritually for Utena, especially Throw Away Your Books, Rally in the Streets. However, I caution anyone interested in that end of the Utena universe to tread *very* carefully, this content gets honestly fucking horrifying sometimes. Explicit abuse and rape will be depicted in much of this content. Themes Utena shares, but depicts very differently, for a very different audience.
Anyway, hope that helps! Or at least is interesting!
-Vanna
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tagged by the handsome @fell-contract to post 6 albums that i've been listening to lately.
Cowboy Carter - Beyoncé
Orquídeas - Kali Uchis
BB/ANG3L - Tinashe
Komachi - Meitei
Tigers Blood - Waxahatchee
For Your Consideration - Empress Of
and yes i'm aware that BB/ANG3L is not technically a full album but i'm going to take any opportunity to plug Tinashe because she's severely underrated.
tagging @crouchingfawn, @tamale-papi, @thatleolion, @forxstboyfriend, and @gayestginger
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Five Songs I'm Into Right Now
Tagged by @sealrock - thank you! I don't get to talk about music often :>
Tagging: @gatheredfates @iron-sparrow @archaiclumina @airis-ray @vasheden @ungrateful-cyborg @ahollowgrave
My favorite song list depends on my mood, the weather where I live, the weather at a point equidistant from the equator in the opposite direction, the end results of 6 daisy-chained random number generators, my current hyperfixation, and how much front-end code I've had to deal with that week; but for y'all. I will try and compile a list of my general go-to songs of the now.
Fair warning that I don't latch to lyrics often, so there's not gonna be any like. Insanely cool quotes or nothin. I tend to like things based on melody and rhythm.
[Pegasus Seiya] - The Struts
I don't even go here, but I was introduced to this song by my brother-in-law who represented it to us as an absolute banger. He was 100% correct, there are hundreds of lines of code that have that song on repeat to thank.
[Yellow Line] - James Shimoji
If you haven't seen REDLINE, do yourself a favor and do so asap. We advertise it as "seven years hand-drawn" because that's exactly what it is! It also has a kickass soundtrack, and this is the first song that you hear in the movie.
[Sleep Walking Orchestra] - BUMP OF CHICKEN
Yeah, yeah, me and everyone else watching Dungeon Meshi. This song got me through 7.6 kilometers, mostly uphill, when we were walking part of the Nakasendo. It really feels like a "my friends and I are on a big adventure!" kind of D&D song, and since we went in a group of 9 this really had that feeling!
[1] - MOB CHOIR
All of the Mob Psycho openings are excellent, but the third season's is my favorite. Something about the melody of the bridges is really quite excellent, and the chorus is a banger. Also not gonna lie, "So do what you can now" is something that pops into my head whenever I try and put things off.
[Twister] - Takeharu Ishimoto
Specifically the original. I'm way back into TWEWY music since I had a minor religious experience playing "Calling" through my bluetooth headset while standing in the Shibuya Scramble, and there's little that beats OG Twister. It was a perfect choice for the accompaniment of the opening - it really sets up expectations for the vibe of the game perfectly.
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Me: "There can't possibly be a song that's exactly breakthrough point Agatha with Gil as witness, that also foreshadows both Castle Heterodyne and Lucrezia."
Best friend, who has not (yet) read Girl Genius: "Hey, listen to this."
...well okay then, shows what I know!
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the ninja turtles are literally my cousins.... they are 4 black boys who just want to go to school, eat some pizza and get a bacon egg and cheese from the bodega
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hellfire is one of if not the best villain song ever and im not accepting any criticism at this time
i dont recall seeing this ask and its like two years old but you are SO right like hellfire had no right being that legitimately good. i cant even imagine disney exploring those themes today tbh
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