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For the zimvoid multaverse, 4 interest me the most. Like ya he losses a lot of his creative but that don't make him less smart, just that his though process is more In like with other irkens. Also it would change his relation with everyone, for good or worse. Also with zim and tenn switch places how? Like planet wise or something else, if it's planet sway all I can see is both being burnt to the ground.

Let me check real quick….

4. “What if Zim wasn’t born defective?”

….Yeah that’s an interesting one to me.

Because a non-defective Zim is what I would consider one of the “Ultimate Zims”.

Zib is the Ultimate Dib because he’s the one that completed his goal in life, but Zim’s goals have changed over time and there are many different Zim’s that could count as “Ultimate Zims”, and a Zim with no defects is one of them.

This Zim would have never caused the Blob Incident, meaning that Miyuki never died and Zim never joined the military. He’d still be a scientist, but I don’t think he’d be nearly as high ranking as a defective Zim. Because a lot of what got Zim to his rank as a Top Scientist (working for Lard Nar (the head scientist of the entire station), with Prisoner 777 as his Coworker/Friend) was his creativity, imagination and willingness to think outside the box. He’d still be an extremely good scientist, top of his field, but he wouldn’t be able to do as much as a defective Zim, wouldn’t have been able to impress Tallest Miyuki like a defective Zim would have been able to, and he wouldn’t have been placed on Lard Nar’s team. He probably would have ended up just one rank lower as an Elite Scientist instead of a Top Scientist.

Zim with his defects is capable of figuring out dimensional travel, time travel, complicated wormhole generation that took an artificially enhanced Irken brain MONTHS to figure out, and in the Zimvoid Zim mentions that the Zapper that Zib built and used to destroy the Armada, the thing that can tear the fabric of spacetime like a wet piece of paper, was HIS design. And he can build these things in a matter of hours. But he was able to figure those things out not just because he’s extremely smart even by Irken standards, but also because can think in ways that no other Irken can.

As a consequence of this, in this universe, the Massive either wouldn’t exist, or would look radically different. Because Zim was the one that single handily built the Massive’s planet destroying Bridge Cannon. Because Zim never became a top scientist, he was never placed in the team that designed the Massive and he would have never designed the Bridge Cannon.

Another rather large difference is that Operations Impending Doom 1 and 2 never happened, as it was Spork that created OID1 (although he never got to see it through) and without OID1, OID2 couldn’t have happened. Something similar under a different name could have happened with Miyuki being the one controlling it, but it would be very different from OID1 and 2. Just for one example, Vortians wouldn’t be targets, as they would only become enemies of the Empire after Miyuki died in the Blob Incident on a Vortian scientific station with no one truly knowing the cause, with Spork fanning the flames. Under Miyuki’s rule, Vortians were very good friends of Irkens.

Another difference between this Zim’s universe and the Main Zim’s universe is that Tenn wouldn’t have survived smeethood and Skoodge either wouldn’t have met Zim or also wouldn’t have survived smeet academy. This is because Tenn and Skoodge are both defective and in the main timeline, Zim, Tenn and Skoodge all covered for each other. Helping each other keep their defects a secret so they wouldn’t die.

But Zim isn’t defective, and wouldn’t hesitate to turn Tenn and Skoodge (assuming that they even met in this universe) in, after all, being able to treat a defective like a person while knowing that they’re defective is in and of itself a defect, albeit a minor (meaning fixable) one.

Overall, this Zim wouldn’t achieve the same highs as a defective one, but also would fall to the same lows. And most importantly of all, this Zim would be happy with what he has, and that’s without him knowing just how many bullets he dodged. This Zim would have never ended up on that fall from grace that ended up with him on Earth. He’d still be a scientist working in Research Station 13, and he wouldn’t mind that.

The other question is below the cut:

7. What if Zim and Tenn switched places?

By “switch places”, I don’t mean planets. I mean defects and roles. In this universe, Zim is the less defective one while Tenn is the most defective Irken of all time.

And what do you know, this is another one of the “Ultimate Zim” universes.

The effects are immediate when following Zim, but it’s kind of hard to say for Tenn.

Firstly, this Zim would have been able to become a Top Scientist working on the Massive project. He’s less defective and his creativity would be affected by that, but he’s still defective, having the same amount of defects that Tenn does in the Main Universe. He’d still be a scientist, still impress Miyuki, still build the Massive’s Bridge Cannon, but Miyuki wouldn’t die, meaning that Zim would stay as a scientist.

This is because as Zim and Tenn swap defects, they swap each other’s level of control over those defects.

Tenn can be just as destructive as Zim, but they have far better control over themselves. She can put more thought into their more impulsive thoughts and can usually just shake them off as nothing or realize that it’s a bad idea before committing to it. They also have more emotional maturity and control over their emotions in general when compared to Zim.

Basically, Zim destroys everything around him with the exception of a few individuals that can either match him in chaos or know him well enough to know what to expect (so Tenn and Skoodge respectively), while Tenn still destroys everything, but can usually aim that destruction in a direction she wants. Usually.

A large part of this is because they have way less defects, meaning that their PAK can actually still help with stuff like emotion and impulse control. Zim’s PAK is so defective that it can’t help at all, so he’s going all on his own with just his organic brain when it comes to impulse and emotion control. Which is a bit of a problem when you consider that his organic brain is also the source of all his defects, destructive impulses and all the things he’s trying to keep under control.

Zim can still control his thoughts and feelings, and very often needs to to prevent his defects from being discovered, but it’s more difficult for him because his PAK can’t help him, especially given how dependent Irkens are on their PAKs for this sort of thing.

Point is: More defects=less restricted mind. Less restricted mind=problems with impulse and emotional control because the Irken brain is used to the PAK doing that for it. That’s how it tends to work with defective Irkens most of the time. It’s just taken to the extreme with Zim because he’s the most defective Irken of all time.

In this universe, Zim is less defective and has better self control and emotional maturity because of that (although he still has problems with it), meaning that the Blob Incident never happens and Zim remains as a scientist, being promoted to Sci-Lord (Irken equivalent to Vortian head scientist) of his own scientific station a few months later on Miyuki’s behalf, and possibly even becoming a Royal Scientist (highest Irken scientific rank that works directly for the Tallest) by the time the series would normally happen (which I headcanon takes place about 4 years after the Blob Incident and 3 years after Zim was sent to Foodcourtia)

As for Tenn, it’s hard to say. They have Zim’s level of defects and Zim’s lack of emotion and impulse control because of that, so they’d probably end up on a journey that parallels Zim’s in the Main Universe, but it wouldn’t be exactly the same.

Zim’s journey starts with him being a scientist, then Miyuki’s death traumatizes him and gets him to join the military out of guilt, Spork’s death on top of Miyuki’s death breaks him and gets him to destroy Operation Impending Doom 1, and then Foodcourtia seals the deal with an extra dose of trauma, leading to the Zim we all know on Earth.

But in this universe, Miyuki doesn’t die, Tenn already joined the military fresh out of Smeet Academy and Operation Impending Doom 1 isn’t a thing because Spork never becomes Tallest and creates it. Tenn’s journey would be its own thing and I’m not sure where it would take them, but it would most likely parallel Zim’s journey in the main universe.

There’s also this to think about: Tenn’s defects make her a pretty good Invader (invading often requires the ability to think fast and on your feet with outside the box solutions, which is why it’s considered such a difficult job by Irkens. Defectives however, excel at that sort of thing, which is why Skoodge completed his mission faster than any invader on record, Zim completed his invader training in just a few months (faster than any other invader on record as Invader training takes five years on average), and Tenn was declared the empire’s star invader and was assigned to Meekrob), but Tenn wasn’t always an Invader. They used to be Irken Special Forces before switching to being an Invader not long before Operation Impending Doom 2.

As for what that even is, we’ve seen an (ex) Special Forces member before and his name is Sizz-Lorr.

Special Forces have mechanical suits of armour with modified PAKs that can work as jetpacks, modified PAK legs that can become wings and modified spinal implants to support the extra weight. They’re essentially the opposite of an invader. They’re equal in rank to each other, but invaders are stealth focused solo jobs that work behind enemy lines and Special Forces are loud, destructive squads that often fight on the front lines.

Sizz-Lorr is retired and doesn’t keep his armour fully deployed (he keeps his arms bare and wears cooking gloves because the heavy duty gauntlets would get in the way of his job as a frylord), but he’s still a good example of what a special forces soldier looks like. The Jet-PAK, the heavy armour, the space-proof mask, the massive shoulder pads (fun fact: the shoulder pads are so big because they contain powerful weapons. In Sizz-Lorr’s case, a plasma cannon equal in power to a small (Voot Sized) ship on each shoulder). Apart from the fact that he keeps his gauntlets undeployed, he’s a good example of what a special forces soldier looks like.

Sizz-Lorr and Tenn aren’t the same, as Sizz-Lorr was a part of the frontline division (basically the default special forces division) and Tenn was a part of the Incendiary Corps, but they’re similar enough that you can get the picture. Just give Tenn’s armour a more fire based colour scheme and some heat based weapons like a flamethrower (also, the shoulder pads on Incendiary Corps armour contain a napalm launcher on each shoulder instead of a plasma cannon like frontline armour) and you should have the general picture of what they looked like.

I already have a bunch of headcanons related to that sort of thing in this post about Sizz-Lorr.

But just like Zim’s scientific career, Tenn’s special forces career is heavily affected by the amount of defects she has.

In the main universe, Tenn both benefited from and was extremely effective at her job because of her defects. Like mentioned before, Tenn is extremely destructive, but in comparison to Zim, has some degree of control over the collateral damage. They have a tendency to destroy more than they’re supposed to, but not to the point where it negatively affects the Empire. As a member of the incendiary corps, a military group whose JOB it is to be destructive with fire and explosives, Tenn is pretty much perfect for the position. Tenn and her squad can be pointed at something that needs to be burnt down or blown up and they’ll do it in record time, with Tenn often destroying more than they’re supposed to, but still attempting to keep the destruction away from the Empire.

But Tenn’s position in the incendiary corps also helped her control their more destructive thoughts and impulses, giving them a way to vent her more destructive thoughts in a way that benefited the empire instead of causing damage to it, intentionally or not.

But that was the main universe’s Tenn. A Tenn that was already more in control over their thoughts. This universe’s Tenn is NOT able to control the direction of their destruction or the collateral damage. So this Tenn would be far too destructive for the Empire’s liking.

And Tenn going for a position in Special Forces is something that happens in just about every universe. Like Zim becoming a scientist. It’s their main goal because they genuinely want to do that in life, and if the only way that doesn’t happen in any given universe is if they’re pretty much a completely different person. Zim always tries to become a scientist because that’s what interests him, and he becomes a scientist no matter how defective or non-defective he is. Same goes for Tenn and special forces. No matter how defective they are, they almost always aim for a position in special forces, switching to an invader not long before OID2.

I cannot say for certain what Tenn’s journey would be in this universe, but I can say that it would start around that point, with Tenn as a special forces soldier. As for what happens to them afterwards, I don’t know. Maybe they destroy too much and get reassigned as a drone like main universe Zim and OID1. Maybe their actions result in the death of someone close to them and that’s what kickstarts their journey like Zim and Miyuki in most universes. Maybe something completely different. I don’t even know if they’d end up on Earth, and if they do end up on Earth, how they got to that point.

Another question I have for this universe is: Who ends up in the Zimvoid, Tenn, as this universe’s equivalent to Zim, or Zim, simply because he’s Zim, ignoring that this Zim isn’t anything like the others?

Would this universe’s Scientist Zim see the distress signal on an unknown planet way out in unknown space and go investigate in his Voot Cruiser (or possibly even Zhook Cruiser), being pulled into the Zimvoid in the process?, or would Tenn, either living on Earth or not, be the one to receive the signal and investigate, getting their Shuvver sucked into the Zimvoid in the process. Maybe they both get pulled in. Maybe neither of them do.

#invader zim #asks #headcanons #Zim #Tenn #sorry this one took so long #comic spoilers #I use they/she pronouns for Tenn because they never actually had any official pronouns given to them in the series #until Dookie Loop Horror where They/Them was used once #it’s they/she because the fandom mostly uses She/Her for Tenn because she has Eyelashes and Curled Antenna #which is design normally used for Female Irkens #plus Tenn had no actual official pronouns until Dookie Loop Horror so everyone assumed the obvious #plus plus Tenn is probably meant to use she/her and being referred to as they exactly once in the comics was probably a coincidence #so I use a mix of fanon and (accidentall) canon and use them/she

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