#emperor Belos

[jess-the-vampire]

Do you think we're bound in every universe?

#my art #the owl house #toh #toh hunter #hunter #the golden guard #golden guard #prince william #toh william #hunter noceda #hunter deamonne #hunter wittebane #hunter clawthorne #toh fanart #toh obron #toh pilot #emperor belos #philip wittebane

[a-magpie-in-gravesfield]

All the pilot stuff that came out about Obron (AKA pilot Belos) made me think I should make at least one thing related to it, so I’m gonna make a keychain where one side is his pilot design, and the other side will be his proof of concept design :3

Will update when the keychains are made !

#emperor belos #belos #obron

[meoww-meow]

I have belos plushie :3

he's so pookie

Reginald (my cat) tolerates him @a-magpie-in-gravesfield

#the owl house #philip wittebane #toh #emperor belos #toh belos #belos #i suck at tags #cat

[diet-comet-soda]

I think one of the things from the original toh bible that I'm glad was changed is making Belos the emperor himself and not someone manipulating/co-opting a "rightful ruler's" will.

The way Belos warps the "Titan's will" in the actual show is directly akin to religious colonization and manipulation—imposing a god figure and then saying you're the sole voice of said god, as a means of control. Meanwhile, Obron is implied to be using the will of an actual tangible "rightful" monarch to enact control, not an intangible god, which removes these themes and could easily just end up falling into the trap of "oh no, it's just the wrong person in power, nothing is wrong with the actual system. Monarchy/empire is fine actually with the good guy in charge".

Of course, I trust the toh team would have pulled it together somehow if this wasn't changed. But Belos both being the actual emperor himself, and also creating the whole empirial rule & coven system himself, is such a more succint way to directly position the systems of power—not just the man in charge—as the fundamental problem.

#the owl house #toh #obron #emperor belos #belos #toh leak #toh pilot #toh bible #the owl house pilot #the owl house bible #the owl house leak

[norman-cipher]

Belos haters: Phillip Wittebane is the main antagonist of The Owl House is a genocidal fascist

Belos fans:

Jokes aside, I promise Lil bro Aint no one defending that British man. You ain't never going to survive in any other fandom, I promise 😭🙏

#Phillip Wittebane #toh phillip wittebane #toh philip #belosfanstakeover #the owl house #owl house #toh belos #toh #emperor belos #I love my British gay ass slutty tsundere twink

[your-local-ruebit-hole-detective]

hahhhh okay.

so I see your ‘Belos was a strange social outcast in the 1600s’ headcanons, and while interesting, I raise you:

Phillip was popular.

because really. This is the guy who managed to dupe the whole Isles into mostly falling in line for him. This is the dude who’s a chronic manipulator. This is the dude who basically talked his way into becoming the Emperor! He’s charismatic. He knows how people work. He knows how to talk to them.

So tell me this kid wasn’t the one who everyone liked! Paired with the devout religiousness and the penchant for conformity, he was probably the village darling! He was the kid who would let all the old ladies pinch his cheeks and would sit in the front row at church.

Bonus- Caleb was the social outcast. Of course he would turn to the demon realm- he was seen as a strange weirdo, and isn’t it such a shame that Phillip is being taken care of by that odd witch?

#rue rants #toh #emperor belos #kid belos #caleb wittebane #philip wittebane

[let-us-cultivate-our-garden]

Any thoughts on the TOH pitch bible and pilot episode that were leaked? Anything you thought it was better than in the final product, or that the final product improved on?

Here is the pilot episode along with a lot of other Disney shows for those that missed it.

And the pitch bible

There were quite a few things I liked about the pilot better: the biggest being that Luz is actually bullied for her interests instead of pulling dangerous stunts that just make her look bad. Also, there's actual bigotry against humans in the Boiling Isles! Luz has to wear a disguise when sneaking into witch school! Lilith is more of a threat in this pilot than she was in the show! Luz and Eda feel more natural in the pilot; Eda still proclaims herself as the most powerful witch in the isles but it's obviously her ego talking while it's taken more seriously in the show. It feels like it's having more fun with itself instead of having an air of self importance.

A few things the actual show did better: Luz entering the Demon Realm. In the pilot, she just stumbles into it after trying to return Amity's passport (who is still a witch just attending a human high school for some reason). Luz trying to get her book back from Owlbert and being led directly to Eda works better for her character and the themes of the show. Also, in the pilot, Eda could just easily conjure a door to the human realm, which lowers the stakes a bit.

As for the pitch bible, it certainly is ambitious with how its world is set up: beta Belos was called Obron and was a councilor to the real ruler of the world, Emperor Pupa, who is currently in larval form and only its councilor's can understand what it's saying. Naturally, Obron is the real power behind the throne and plans on invading the human realm by possessing the Titan's body and he apparently needs a human soul to do that...

Yeah, I can see why this was simplified in the final version.

I do like some of the designs in the pitch bible better. For example, here's Willow, a.k.a. Paulina:

Here's Tibbles:

And lastly, even though everyone says this is beta Hunter, look me in the eyes and tell me that's not Baby Philip "Kill All Witches" Wittebane:

Come on, red outfit, blue eyes, hatred of witches, really hundreds of years old, the FREAKIN' DAGGER/SWORD.

That's a proto-Philip who was split into 3 characters, he's not simply beta Hunter.

Overall, both the pitch bible and the pilot are a mixed bag; the pitch bible has some overly ambitious ideas that (thankfully) became more grounded, but it also has more interesting character designs. The pilot has a lot going on in a mere 20 minutes but it's more fun to watch imo simply because it's not taking itself too seriously.

Despite all of these what-ifs, a show is only as good as how well it carries out its ideas. Toh has a lot of creativity and compelling concepts but its biggest struggle was always in its execution.

(P.S. any accusations that Disney made Dana add Hexside are now null and void because both the pitch bible and pilot had Lilith as the Headmaster of Amity's magic school)

#the owl house #luz noceda #eda clawthorne #emperor belos #philip wittebane #toh hunter #toh beta #toh william #toh critical #toh criticism #asks

[arkomaly]

#fanart #art #my art #digital art #arkomaly art #toh #toh belos #toh fanart #the owl house #the owl house fanart #the owl house belos #belos #emperor belos #philip wittebane #philip wittebane fanart #lets take ibuprofen together #shitpost

[try02line]

Now- HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT WAS PILOT HUNTER?

Like- the red outfit? The giant knife-sword? The pants? The blue eyes? The desire of burning witches?

THAT IS KID BELOS AND I DO NOT ACCEPT CRITICISM ON THAT

And so i made this lil silly fanart

Sorry for not being active lately, i genuinely forget to post on here 😭

Hope you enjoy this 🦊

#fanart #toh #the owl house #philip wittebane #try02art #emperor belos #the owl house fanart #the owl house fandom #the owl house pilot #toh william #kid belos #toh redesign #toh art #toh fandom #toh fanart #my art #belos toh #the owl house hunter #toh emperor belos

[prisi]

I like when people make TOH AU's where Caleb is the Emperor instead of Philip but with him being undeniably WORSE than Belos cuz Caleb is a blank canvas and I think that making him really evil is actually very cool.

Other cool thing about this kind of AU's is when the Grimwalker Philip is just canon Philip in a teenager and without having reached the point of no return but he is allowed to learn, grow and stop being evil and all that.

#toh #emperor belos #philip wittebane #belos toh #the owl house #caleb wittebane #wittebros #toh au #toh aus

[jess-the-vampire]

What does Alador think of Philip's inventions and vice versa?

honestly philip had a pretty strong interest in blight tech, so much so a lot of scraps he collected was from them, even basing some of his own inventions off their own. His robots are based a lot on their abomination tech. When hunter becomes friends with amity, he allows it and her presence since it makes hunter happy, and he thinks having her around and her family's tech might be helpful to his own work.

alador on the other hand only heard passing remarks about some of philip's tech, and i'm sure at one point he bought some of it, but has not been able to figure out how to use it with his own work yet.....or had it confiscated by either odalia or the scouts before he's been able to use it. It is tech made by philip after all, it has potential to be pretty dangerous or been seen as a trick.

these are two messy scientists with some admiration for each other, even despite never talking much in person.

at least alador let kiki keep his giant mech suit after the fight

#my art #the owl house #toh #a reverse of feathers and mud au #areverseoffeathersandmudau #a reverse of feathers and mud #alador blight #emperor belos #philip wittebane

[lasymit]

Translation of the 7 chapter of "The Dawn"

In this chapter Hunter finally talks to Philip! but Philip is a scammer. Also negotiations with Luz again mooooore negotiations

Who is new, it's AU, where Philip was prisoned for ten years after the Day of Unity, and has partial amnesia, and has no will to live, and Luz with Hunter annoy him, because they can and because fuck you old man you don't deserve rest in piece yet!!

#at the dawn of the light #philip wittebane #emperor belos #luz noceda #hunter noceda #the owl house #toh

[alexandertheanxious]

Autistic white boys save me, save me autistic white boys 😭

(not a ship im just silly)

#absolutely no context for this #just think itd be neat if they met and were friends #they definitely both have the tism #and hyperfixated on thongs consodered weird or even evil #like i know canonically they wouldn't be besties but just imagine for a sec #toh #toh belos #philip wittebane #emperor belos #laios thorden #laios dungeon meshi #dungeon meshi #delicious in dungeon #the owl house #toh fanart #dunmeshi fanart

[thesevenwondersofawitch]

Welp, I just finished The Owl House and boy was it a rollercoaster of emotion

#thesevenwondersofawitch #TheSevenWondersOfAWitch watches #the owl house #owl house #eda the owl lady #eda clawthorne #eda x raine #raine whispers #flapjack #amity x luz #luz noceda #amity blight #the collector #emperor belos #fuck you Philip #i miss flapjack #lilith clawthorne #the owl house spoilers #the owl house s3 #the owl house hooty #toh hooty #hooty shall forever haunt my nightmares #as will the bat children #toh flapjack #toh palismen #toh season 3 #toh finale

[rockymountainqueen2]

From this -

This post is mostly for those who don't want to have to click on the link in order to read the entirety of The Owl House's series bible.

#the owl house #toh #yes this is real #100% legit #luz noceda #amity blight #edalyn clawthorne #king clawthorne #hunter wittebane #hunter golden guard #willow park #tibbles toh #philip wittebane #emperor belos #lilith clawthorne #toh bat queen #lumity #prince william #paulina #emperor pupa #councilor obron #magistrate bump #sashley #pasha #bruno #bonesborough #the boiling isles #the demon realm

[let-us-cultivate-our-garden]

I swear... Belos deserved so much more....

Lowkey...I want Odalia Blight to end up with a much better husband/business partner and being a capitalist queen. (I see her getting with either Honsou/Perturabo)

Cause here's the damn thing... Alador gets too little flack for what he did... and just cause he stood up for Odalia... he really didn't do shit. Hell... It would be better for them to cut off BOTH of her parents.

TBH, it would be funny for Luis to try and "the friendship is Magic" shit on Perturabo (who would NOT listen to any of that nonsense) or Belos somehow getting somebody like Konrad Curze and uses him to hunt down Eda. Or Lorgar getting in, KILLING Belos and making thing WORSE.

I answered a similar ask about Odalia here.

Belos definitely deserved better writing because he's the main villain yet the show did a poor job of making the coven system actually oppressive and the coven scouts are just mooks that can quit their job with zero repercussions. This just makes Belos look bad as a dictator and a villain. Plus, there's his implied backstory and narrative foil with Luz that was stripped of all nuance and ends with "you're a good person because your motives are pure and not a power-hungry meanie."

As for Odalia, she didn't need to be deep but she didn't need to be so basic either. She's largely a caricature that doesn't really have anything meaningful to say about how capitalism supports oppressive regimes but the show isn't about that. So we have the abusive mom who tries to mold her daughter into her own image. Great concept, really lazy execution, especially since once Amity meets Luz, she doesn't really struggle with the expectations of her mother with the freedom her new crush provides.

As for Alador, he was implied to be on equal footing with Odalia and on the same page as her only to be retconned as a distant father who is "redeemed" once he stands up to his wife. Guess we're not going to address those years of emotional neglect. Also, Amity for some reason gets into engineering when she never really displayed an interest in that before. So instead of becoming like her mother, she turns into her dad. Great work, team.

(Also, I don't know who those other characters are you mentioned. I don't play video games).

#the owl house #toh critical #toh criticism #amity blight #odalia blight #emperor belos #philip wittebane #alador blight #asks