#dune part 2 spoilers

[where-theres-smoak-2]

Something I go absolutely feral over when it comes to paulxchani is how chani is always stroking/playing with paul's hair, I mean I don't blame her look at those luscious curls:

It does something to me though that she does this either to comfort him or when she herself is feeling worried or anxious as a way to calm herself.

But I think we can confirm that chani's love language is running her fingers through paul's hair.

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[lady-of-the-puddle]

I need everyone to understand about the fremen.

They do not cry. Ever.

To give water to the dead is the most sacred honor that anyone could give but they rarely and never do that because it's ingrained in them to not waste water from birth. A single tear could mean life and death for them. To give water to the living? Unheard of.

Paul crying over killing Jamis in the book was a moment that astonished the fremen around him. Jessica ponders their reactions and knows that this is a holy moment.

Jessica then forcing Chani to cry for Paul(this was not in the book btw but I love it) is the ultimate betrayal of her autonomy. To force her to give what is essentially a piece of her life to him without her consent is sacrilegious and she knows it.

Water of Life indeed.

#dune #dune spoilers #dune part 2 #dune part 2 spoilers #paul atreides #chani kynes #lady jessica #fremen #dune movie

[thedeadtravelfast]

this is the plot right?

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[randomnoteforfuturereference]

The visual of the Harkonnen/Sardaukar bodies being burned in piles at the end of the film not only function as a mirror to the beginning (where House Atreides suffered that fate) to demonstrate how monstrous Paul had become, but it also showed how much he had dragged the Fremen with him in that they were cremating instead of reclaiming the water of their enemies (even if Harkonnen water isn't exactly potable).

#dune #dune part two #dune part 2 #dune part 2 spoilers #paul atreides

[deputyrook]

my takeaway from dune: part 2

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[pharah-airways]

duke of arrakis chooses fursona billions dead universe engulfed in holy war

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[timotheecontent]

"I recognize your footsteps, old man." DUNE: PART 2 (2024) Dir. Denis Villeneuve

#timothee chalamet #timothée chalamet #josh brolin #paul atreides #gurney halleck #dune part 2 #dune 2 #filmedit #gifs #~ #dune part 2 spoilers #dune spoilers #spoilers

[beautyinsteadofashes]

I've seen a lot of people (mostly men if that's a factor) focus on how Chani was heart broken by Paul choosing Irulan. Am I the only one that thinks she's mostly upset that he's lost himself, is embracing/using the prophecy and waging war? She definitely cries as she summons the worm and is quiet and alone but in the room she's angry and staunch and doesn't bow to him. Their conversation about him not wanting to lose himself or lose her before they left for the South felt very important. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but I definitely felt like it was more nuanced and deeper than her just being his love interest. I think Zendaya and Denis made some really cool and powerful changes to her character.

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[chalamet-chalamet]

The parallels are brilliant (Twitter credit to quibvs)

#timothee chalamet #josh brolin #someone pointed out that he’s standing equal to Leto #but is behind Paul as a follower #precisely #dune #dune part two #dune part 2 spoilers #dune part 2 #dune part one #gurney #timothée chalamet

[half-metal-scientist]

can't stop thinking about how even though they don't 'die,'--"his vital signs are too low to be detected"-- when they drink the water of life and gain the precognition, whoever they were dies. lady jessica died, the reverend mother rises from her body. paul, son of leto, partner to chani, fremen equal, is dead. reborn with the desert spring tears is paul maud'dib atreides, the mahdi, the lisan al gaib, the kwisatz haderach, emperor of the known galaxy.

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[ellestra]

The Voice from the Outer World

Dune is a story of failure. SPOILERS for Dune Part 2 below

Power corrupts and all of that. We all know this. So we would be able to avoid it, right? If you know what happens you can chose another option. You would be different.

And here's a story that shows that even when you know all of this and more and can literally see the future it's still not enough.

I get why people often think that to avoid this the person in power shouldn't want that power. That this would make them somehow immune. And this logic has multiple faults (like - how can you be good at doing something you hate?) and one of them is that just not wanting to abuse power doesn't mean you would do right things with it.

We are reminded multiple times in the film (and the books also aren't shy about it) that Fremen religious belief in a saviour is not something that arose naturally. It's a belief seeded by Bene Gesserit's Missionaria Protectiva. They seeded superstitions and myths in different cultures so they could use them in a future emergency. Everything Fremen believe about their Mahdi was created so their faith could be used by a Bene Gesserit in need. And both Jessica and Paul are aware of this even before they even set a foot on Arrakis.

It's specifically made for the saviour to be a foreign one (Lisan al-Gaib is The Voice from the Outer World) because the people who made and planned to use this prophecy were ones from an outsider culture. Paul doesn't hijack Fremen beliefs to insert himself as their white saviour. These beliefs was specifically created for someone like him to use.

It was made with purpose of hijacking Fremen religion into protecting the foreigners who know how this prophecy was constructed. This is a parasitic belief (cuckoo-like faith) and the truth doesn't set anyone free. We see why with Stilgar as he wants to believe so much that everything becomes a sign. Even when he's told this has been fabricated and he was manipulated he warps it into something that supports his beliefs not undermines them. I'm sure you've seen this in real life, in real politics if not religion.

Jessica and Chani got changed the most from their book versions. They've become opposite sides of the ideological divide. Not between religion and lack of it - Jessica obviously not a believer - but between using people and letting them decide their own future.

Book Jessica is more apprehensive of Paul's choices. She's often more worried he may not survive the trials than pushing for them for power. In here she becomes the driving force of using the messianic belief Bene Gesserit implanted for Paul's benefit. She makes sure Fremen believe he fits the story. She doesn't care about Paul's wishes to avoid this burden. She knows it doesn't matter when he tells the people the truth about Bene Gesserit, their abilities and their manipulation techniques. Belief is impervious to proof and confirmation bias makes you reject all evidence to the contrary.

But then, in the film, Jessica is kind of possessed. Stilgar warns Paul not to listen to the djinn but neither he nor his mother can stop listening to the voices. The film removes Alia's book doings but replaces them with foreshadowing of what she becomes. She whispers the truths about the future to her mother even before she is born. Funny how this change make her, not Paul, the first fully prescient Atreides. She is manipulating the events when Paul refuses to and that's foreshadowing too. When Jessica took the Water of Life while pregnant she did it for the power this new position among the Fremen would give her. Alia never stood a chance. She was pre-born into this.

The only one trying to stand in the way of succumbing to the power corruption is movie version of Chani. She was never believer in a saviour. She wants her people to save themselves. They already have a plan for a better future that doesn't involve killing worlds for the Empire they never wanted anything to do with. They were not supposed to be warriors of the prophet. She sees this for what it is - a way to control her people. She understands this is another form of enslavement. The only difference is that this one is embraced. No one listens to her when she tells them the truth. They only see what they want to see.

The power that comes from being close to the rule is just as blinding when you stand close to the throne as it is when you sit on it.

And the sad part is she knows she played a part in this happening to as she convinced Paul to give this a try. She didn't see the visions he saw so she hoped he can remain the person she fell in love with. When he submits to the way prescience shows him and takes over the faith we feel her heartbreak. She watches him becoming what he feared and everyone around him stops her from trying to save him (not just other Fremen or Jessica - Gurney puts atomic arsenal in Paul's hands).

Paul doesn't bring freedom. He just changes who holds the power but in the end the structures of power remain (the similarities between Saudarkar and Fremen are not accidental). And billions die so it can happen. But billions is a an abstract number. It's much easier to feel the consequences when they hit close and personal.

Everyone around Paul gets to gain something - Gurney gets revenge on Rabban, Jessica and Stilgar get to destroy Harkonnens and Emperor. They are on top now. The power corrupts even before you even hold it. Just the promise of power is enough.

This film version of Chani doesn't let us forget that this is what we watch. That what is happening is not a good thing. We as humans have tendency to gloss over big numbers of deaths when it's unseen people with whom we have no emotional connections. Through her eyes the loss is so much more personal. She loses her Usul to Paul Muad'Dib. And he takes her people and her planet too.

As Paul says - they are Harkonnens too. And they do what Harkonnens do too. The difference was always cosmetic.

And one more thing. A lot is said about Arabic and Muslim influences in Fremen culture and religion but they aren't the only ones. One other is the word used for the places where Fremen live - Sietch. It comes from Zaporozhian Cossack name for their fortified encampments - sich.

In the West the name Cossacks invokes the cruel Russian Imperial forces that tsars used to pacify conquered territories. But this is not what comes to my mind first. In the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth they were free people living in the borderlands of the Commonwealth on the territories often attacked by the Ottomans. The constant raids from Turks meant they were warriors and constantly moving. But this also allowed for a lot of freedom as there wasn't a lot of direct control over these territories for the same reason. This meant that they were often joined by anyone wishing to have that freedom - from peasants escaping indenture to nobles escaping the law.

The dissatisfaction with Polish rule eventually lead to uprising and this part of Ukraine joined Russian Empire. That Empire destroyed all the freedoms Cossacks had and those independent warriors became just another enforcers of conformity for the Empire. They've become exactly what they fought against. I often wondered if Herbert chose the name Sietch intentionally to invoke this turn of events.

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[where-theres-smoak-2]

Fair warning this is a totally random post. But does anyone else feel like this room here really needs a railing?

I just did a post analysing this scene and I kept getting distracted by how unsafe it looks. I mean one missed wet floor sign and someone is going to go flying off into paradise prematurely.

Hold on a sec let me just...

There now everyone is safe and Paul can launch his holy war without having to worry about any freak accidents. 👍

#i don't even know what this post is #think i may need a nap lol #dune #dune part 2 #dune part 2 spoilers #dune part two

[ahsokatanos-lightsabertechnique]

Okay can we talk about the blue cloth that Chani wears. She starts wearing it when she's falling in love with Paul. And after everything that happens, and he ceases to be the person she fell in love with, she wraps it around her arm and goes into battle, and we never see that blue cloth again? The blue cloth was lost in a field of blood and betrayal, and so was their relationship.

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[visd3stele]

crying hours, thread carefully

chani loves her planet, her people, her home, so much. she wants to see it free, healthy. she wants that green paradise silgard and the followers dream of too. imagine how much it pains her to see them waiting for a solution to their problems when they themselves could be it.

chani loves paul so much. "you won't lose me as long as you stay who you are". she is worry of strangers, but this man earned not only her trust and respect but her love as well. imagine her pain when he takes advantage of her people's religion. her pain when he shattered her heart, telling her he loves her still than proposing to irulan.

and imagine her pain when they win and paul doesn't stop there. he starts a holy war with her people as canon meat. a war arrakis (dune) shouldn't be part of because there is nothing in it for them. and not only that, but he promises to marry another stranger. having her people be led by two foreigners who don't – can't – fully grasp their ways. their love and care for dune. their respect for fighters and fighting and their people that goes so far they don't use the dead ones water, no matter how much they'd need it. a war that already took her home (the destruction of the fountains) and it only promises more pain to come.

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[theology101]

Me seeing Dune for the fifth time in the same theatre: “He’s gonna do it this time!”

Me, three hours later after Feyd-Rautha doesn’t kiss Paul in the final knife fight: “He forgor 😔”

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[femmefatalegoth]

[Foaming at the mouth while gripping you by the shoulders] You don't understand. Chani leaving at the end was about so much more than the romance. It outlined the entire point of the story. Chani in the film STANDS for the POINT Herbert was trying to make. About how wrong Pauls actions really were, about how religion was being utilised as a tool of political power, about how her own people were turned into tools of invaders. Chani is the voice of reason in this film and she leaves. She just leaves. She wants nothing to do with what Paul has become. Do you understand.

#dune part 2 spoilers #dune part 2 #dune #I love film Chani so much