#dokkaebi king

[immortal-tale]

It's our adorable dokkaebi 🥰

#omniscient reader's viewpoint #orv #omniscient reader #kim dokja #kdj #orv bihyung #bihyung #dokkaebi #dokkaebi king #chapter 146

[purrfectlycontent]

the newest chapter has me thinking about kdj’s relationship with the fourth wall

#my ramblings #i always thought that the fourth wall was incredibly childish #it’s almost as if it not only expresses kdj’s thoughts but also his emotions #like if you factor in its previous identity (an existence presumably as old as the star stream itself) #even if it lost its memories it probably shouldn’t be acting this childish #i’m wondering if it’s because of the dokkaebi king’s connection to the oldest dream #maybe it would be more accurate to say that it expresses the oldest dream’s feelings? #wanting to consume as many stories as possible and being petulant when kdj turns it off #seeing a wall much like itself and calling it a friend #the way it often bickers with kdj and gets upset when he ignores it #it’s like he has to placate his inner child #idk if this makes sense. i kind of let my thoughts wander gsjshd #orv #omniscient reader's viewpoint #kim dokja

[kirvia]

process for this illustration

#I decided not to make it kid/teen dokja cuz i couldn't find a way to make it read easily #colored highlights cup horns towel bc things are pretty in threes #cup w toothbrush and toothpaste to signify personal space #towel so that it looks more like a dokkaebi's horns #red horns on mirror dokja bc. demon king #sketch tag

[manhwamuneca]

Some scenes that had me cackling, the goblin kings so cute!

#han yoojin #bak yerim #song taewon #car crash #myeongwoo yoo #sctir #the s classes that i raised #dokkanbattle #my s class hunters #the s-classes that i raised #goblin #chirpie #built different #goblin king #waterwheel #dokkaebi #demon king #slap that demon kings butt #i can change him #chapter 67 #great goblin king #chapter 68 #Kim Sunghan #public official

[rusquared]

hey. does kdj × 4th wall make sense to anyone who isnt named ru

#reader vs the oldest storyteller #in a sense the oldest reader #the oldest dream vs the oldest reader #bc dokja didnt just consume the story he lived it and desired it #the dokkaebi king only wanted to consume and observe #orv spoilers

[tnyhua]

[great dokkaebi 'bihyung' has voted for your story.]

#kim dokja #omniscient reader's viewpoint #orv #this novel makes me sob #joongdok #yoo joonghyuk #tnyhua #orv quote #secretive plotter #demon king of salvation #bihyung #orv bihyung #great dokkaebi

[page551]

pls tell me it's not true that ebook removed "let's meet again" of joongdok I'm crying why they would do that!! 😭😭😭

yeah they did.

the new line is "please live, yoo joonghyuk"

#ask #orv #im ngl i actually like it #cuz kdj tells kimcom to please live later on #but he first told that to yjh #kind of like hsy noticing how kdj looked like he'd lost everything when 1863 yjh died #and then later on during the final scenario when dokkaebi king asks kdj what kimcom are to him #he says theyre my everything #it's like hes always singling out yjh first and then kimcom is catching up #little detail!!!

[orv-quotes-tournament]

ORV Quotes Tournament Round 1

Plain text under the cut:

Ch 512: The Oldest Dream, I: The Wenny King wished to shout out so desperately. To shout out, please look this way. Please, I'm right here. Please, look at me just once. And then, 'that' slowly shifted its head. However, by the time its gaze reached where the Wenny King was, the latter was no longer existing in that place.

Ch 492: Omniscient Author's Viewpoint, VI: Han Sooyoung watched the incoming wave of the stars and muttered out. "Even in places you didn't bother to look, we managed to eke out a living.”

#orv #orv spoilers #orv novel spoilers #han sooyoung #wenny king #thank you to whoever submitted the wenny king quote #i dont think abt him much but the lore of the wenny and dokkaebi kings has INSANE potential #orv quotes tournament

[metanarrates]

what do you think about the implications that the fourth wall/dokkaebi king is Jesus

i'm not sure it's an important piece of information in itself, frankly! i believe that someone COULD draw out that piece of info and construct a lot of meaning from it, but to me, it's just a fragment of the larger idea. the dokkaebi king is not just jesus - he is a representation of every founding myth and story in all the world.

so he is jesus. he is god. he is lucifer. I'm sure he is also yggdrasil, or the fates from greek mythology, or any other mythological idea that explains how the world is founded. or any important myth, too. I haven't read the epic of gilgamesh, but I would bet real money that something around him at least references it.

it's not even that any of these figures are his real identity, either. it's implied he doesn't quite have one. the way orv's universe functions, everything is just another incarnation of an older and deeper story. the dokkaebi king himself doesn't know where he originated. he is a representation of the concept of "the founding story," if you will. a story that seems responsible for the origin of everything, but is, in itself, a text whose origin is slightly shrouded in mystery. a final boss who seems like he might be responsible for all the world's evils, but who is ultimately a character in a text, and who by definition cannot be the author or reader who made the constructed reality of the fictional world.

I suppose you can draw a savior/jesus story out of his role as the fourth wall, but I also personally don't see it that way. the dokkaebi king represents not just the text of twsa, but literally all literature and mythology. and while he does protect kim dokja in this role, it is not an unambiguously good or healthy thing, as jesus allegories tend to treat the concept of saviorism. since kim dokja uses fiction itself as a coping mechanism to dissociate himself from daily life, the fourth wall becomes his shield. this makes it so the fourth wall represents both fiction itself AND fiction as a coping mechanism AND fiction as a way of understanding and interpreting the world. its a very multilayered allegory. and while orv ultimately settles on his usage of fiction being an overall good thing, it is HIGHLY nuanced and not afraid to point out how the thing that saves him can also be a hindrance at times. which is sort of antithetical to a jesus allegory lol

#narrates #orv #orv spoilers #<- for my mutuals who havent finished the novel yet #tldr; I'm more interested in the MANY other implications that are brought up when the dokkaebi king's identity is discussed

[lee-hakhyun]

hsy also had a conversation with the 1863rd dokkaebi king/fourth wall before dying. ill need a little more time to comb through that

#the conversation was in the past but she had forgotten about it until now. the dokkaebi king had warned her she would die... #hard to summarize #side story lb #orv spoilers #side story spoilers

[bidokja]

damn, shadowbringers is just like orv for real

#i mean this 100% seriously btw #like. the parallels are Uncanny #orv #ffxiv #kim dokja 🤝 graha: doing their best to guide the story to a happier end for the sake of all those around them excluding themselves #kim dokja 🤝 graha: trying to paint themselves as the villain and everyone around them going 'how about we Not do that' #kim dokja 🤝 graha: having their very existence be at risk due to timespace shenanigans and all their friends coming together to save them #THE LIGHT AND DARK.... #wait does this make urianger yoo sangah or han sooyoung...probably the latter but good mix of both #the scions = kimcom #IS.....IS SELCH ANNA CROFT. HOLD ON- (the answer is no but almost asdjhgf) #selch is more like the 4th wall or dokkaebi honestly #WAIT THIS MAKES THE WOL = YOO JOONGHYUK #the way i am having this realization ON YJH'S BDAY ASKDJHFG #guy who has only read orv and played ffxiv lately: orv and ffxiv have similar vibes #and im RIGHT #shadowbringers is like the 10th main scenario if kdj failed but also yjh didnt fully become the demon king cause an outer god interfered #thats an oversummarization. but a fairly accurate one #ky speaks

[immortal-tale]

OH MY GOSH! Congratulations Bihyung! 👏👏👏👏👏👏🥰 Your going to be a dad!!😆

#orv #omniscient reader #omniscient reader's viewpoint #omniscient reader webtoon #webtoon #episode 117 #kim dokja #kdj #biyoo #orv biyoo #bihyung #orv bihyung #dokkaebi #dokkaebi king

[gay-panic-at-the-disco]

DokHyuk this, DokHyuk that, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BESTEST MOST LOYALEST BOI

FOURTH WALL

if you expected me to say Bihyung, then you are not entirely wrong either, I love all my good dokkaebi boys equally

#dokhyuk #kim dokja #fourth wall orv #the dokkaebi king #bihyung

[limelocked]

like something something martyn either partnering with a powerful sponsor that lets him move around the universe as he wishes or gunning to become a constellation meanwhile grian somehow gambles his way into becoming a dokkaebi or something because honestly sitting on his ass waiting for the end of scenarios doesnt seem his style even if he Does hate authority

#mcyt x orv #grian might not BE a dokkaebi actually but he gets the power of one into his hands and has to face legal action because like #is he under the authority of star stream? is he a bitch? is he a bastard? #grian probably vanished from evo with the constellation banquette and was deposited somewhere else #he finds the rest of the surviving evo bunch in paradise or elsewhere in the tower #its prolly been longer for them than him #linear time in my demon king scenario?

[rusquared]

orvblr. someone with more braincells than me help. yk how dokja is able to read the 1865th timeline kimcom goes on? while he's on the train? thats a TWSA revised edition right? so who wrote that??

#orv spoilers #orv novel spoilers #orv epilogue spoilers #tbh i never fully understood where the twsa revisions came from #they were v helpful in the plot (lowkey deus ex machina? but thats kinda how the world is bc OD) #but i cannot for the life of me figure out who writes them #4th wall? but it lost all its memories of being the dokkaebi king ?? #1863!hsy's ego died when the final chapter was published #so WHOMST

[dreadark]

orv epilogue talk

initially the explanation behind the fourth wall bothered me a bit because I was fine with it as is… a literal fourth wall the dokkaebi king isn’t really much of a character so like why should I care about this idk…

but then I realized. the point isn’t what it is but rather why

the dokkaebi king only became the wall because of han sooyoung’s wish to protect kim dokja. during orv the [fourth wall] skill saves his life countless times, but at the same time it dulls all his emotions so he can't fully connect with everyone else

that’s just the literal events that happened. symbolically, han sooyoung’s wish was expressed through her writing twsa for him, and by escaping into the fiction of that world, kim dokja was able to survive. at the same time, using fiction to cope with reality like that has him feeling disconnected from the world and everyone else in it… and that’s what led to him making the 49/51 decision he sees his place as just a reader—an outsider to everyone else's story. because that's how he survived

so maybe han sooyoung’s desperate wish to save him back then also doomed him..? but that really was all she could do then...

#orv #orv spoilers #han sooyoung #kim dokja #struggling to put this coherently as usual #also this parallels lee sookyung really well… #writing that book was her trying to protect kdj #it was the only way she knew how. the only way she could #and kdj was saved from being known as a murderer… #but being known as a murderer’s son still doomed him #imperfect salvation born from a pure love… #well. that’s kim dokja’s whole thing isn’t it #orvposting