#dicaeopolis

[toodeepforyou]

i am wading into campaign 3 and i feel like you're the only mutual i have who would understand. there's all of two trans fearne fics on ao3 TOTAL and I'm gonna fucking kermit i need more so fucking bad people are BLIND. no VISION

i KNOW!!!!!!!! honestly i don't often read cr fic anymore i just rotate the characters in my mind really hard until i get tired

#dicaeopolis

[totopopopo]

my blorbo is Philip from the athenaze attic textbook

#fuck his dad tho all my homies hate dicaeopolis

[studywurfavwasian]

the only reason i study greek so intensely is because i refuse to be worse than bunny in any and all aspects of life

#the secret history #bunny corcoran #greek is hard though holy shit balls #ancient greek #one day i'll translate the iliad just wait #until then it's dicaeopolis and me plowing the fucking field #at least caecilius non est in horto #let's be honest i'm doing this for henry #henry winter #donna tartt

[rukafais]

Kimmuriel pic commissioned by @dicaeopolis ! I love dressing up characters so this was great fun for me, very relaxing!

#legend of drizzt #commission work #kimmuriel oblodra #rukart

[tasmanianchickenstrips]

Original

@dicaeopolis

#apparently you cant add video replies #do i even really want to tag this #dungeon meshi #the simpsons #wild #guess they both just stare unblinking into the void

[dicaeopolis]

“You are owed some prize,” Entreri grits out, wishing mightily to end this encounter. “I am aware my life is forfeit.”

“Okay,” says Drizzt.

Despite himself, Entreri tenses slightly. He hadn't actually expected the drow to agree. He glances up to meet Drizzt's lavender eyes, but can't parse the emotion there.

“But,” Drizzt adds, “not here.”

(4.5k of drizzt and artemis not killing each other)

#.txt #legend of drizzt #artemis entreri #drizzt do'urden #is there a ship name idk. it's not even really shippy #just a Guy With Mental Problems #anyway read my fic boy

[stcantarella]

tagged by the lovely @tenderperversion to put my shuffle on repeat and post the first 10 songs!! most of these songs are. smiths adjacent or rome adjacent......

I think most of the mutuals have already been tagged and have posted it but tagging @keda-loco @catilinas @foxnewsdeathcult @dicaeopolis @divinecruelty @reelaroundthefountaiin @trickstump @nakachokos @charmophron @bisulla @wellwaterhysteria anyone else who wants to do it :)))

#101 #if you guys don't wanna do it or have already done it there's no need to post!! ❤️

[coffinbutch]

Tagged by @houndxtooth to post the first 10 songs that come up on shuffle:

Tagging @abyssaldyke @puckgoodfaggot @lichfucker @brightbluedot @dicaeopolis @scooplery and anyone who sees this and feels like it

#sorry this was sitting in my drafts for a few days im bad at these but i do like to be tagged #i skipped repeat artists ftr. also im aware some of this is a bit cringe but oh well

[vriskarlmarx]

I was tagged by @aristotels <3

favorite color: purple. i noticed the other day that everytime i look for clothes i gravitate towards purple things immediately lol

last song listened to: daloy polizei - bestiärio (currently listening to this, in fact)

currently reading: la nausée by sartre. i have been reading this for months ive been going so sloooowwww for various reasons lol

currently watching: I'm trying to stay up to date with iwtv and the new season of doctor who. not rly backwatching anything rn but I'll start watching nana with a friend this week.

coffee or tea: i like both it depends on the #vibes

currently craving: anything at all its lunchtime lol

no pressure tagging @pseudotsugas @jeannie-youre-a-tragedy @dicaeopolis @snaps-wexley @idridian and whoever is reading this and wants to do it ✌️

#tag game

[clodiuspulcher]

five songs! tagged by @aeternitimperi

1. Splitting the Atom by Massive Attack // They won't tell you this band has written songs other than the House MD theme song. and this one goes HARD. The album Heligoland was introduced to me by charlisaac through famous finveith playlist and it's perhaps my most frequently listened album in the past few days. I like this song in particular. For when you're feeling like the white Oppenheimer.

2. Answering the Phone by The Mountain Goats // This is one of my favorite TMG deep cuts, a bonus song from All Hail West Texas. In love with the line "I think something's wrong with me / I think something's glued down wrong maybe permanently". One of the only TMG songs on my playlist for my current fucked up D&D guy. Something IS wrong with him.

3. Northwest Passage by Unleash the Archers // my friend Kit (forgor their tumblr) made a sea shanties playlist and this song made me so Freaking emotional about life changing television show the Terror and the autocannibalistic nature of capitalism and imperialism. but also made it onto my running playlist so it's doing double duty.

4. Kill Yourself (Part III) by $uicideboy$ // Another song for the aforementioned Guy. I really am partial to songs abt ppl who are miserable and pathetic, and not just bc I needed to find some songs for this Guy's playlist.

5. Spiritual Architecture by Ashbringer // Emotionally haunting instrumental tunes to write scientific papers about the cellular biology of Plasmodium falciparum to and a cornerstone of @aeternitimperi's playlist for HIS little D&D guy who is friends (?) with My guy and they are collectively working through some trauma. And constructing more trauma but that's just how it is in this bitch of a Realm. And It wouldn't be fair for me to leave a song from that playlist off on account of it has kept me from going full joker in recent weeks.

tagging @magnvmchasma @brightbluedot @dicaeopolis @madqueenalanna @izzychao

#honorable mentions cane fields the mountain goats #on account of really making hyou think about the brutality of life in pre revolution cuba #dog by leya for my bg3 guy who is romancing laezel #money machine by 100 gecs for helping w the ritalin situation #everything is violence by Lorn for being a nother good instrumental to write to #wriggle by black dresses bc i'm rereading harrow the ninth and its giving ianthe in her pathetic era #things of this nature

[aeternitimperi]

five songs! tagged by @loveofdetail :)c

1. Sandy - Murder By Death // on repeat as i build out a little Shadowheart mix for myself. to be honest i have mostly been listening to Murder By Death lately, but in the interest of variety i’ll only mention their incomparable, orchestral, folksy, deliciously layered tunes this once

2. Highwayman - Murder By Death // ok i lied, but their cover of Highwayman is so good

3. gravity - Montaigne, David Byrne // filed under songs that make me cry bc i am in love with @magnvmchasma

4. Lagoon - Horsey // i haven’t listened to much of their stuff but i do love the shouty glam jazz ? that they bring to the table. this one’s on my mix for charlie (see tumblr user magnvmchasma) and my vtm vampires who are divorced

5. captain alberti bundi (of the SS EZ Bell) - Ezra Bell // jaunty little pirate tune that’s been on my mind because charlie is running Waterdeep Dragon Heist for our group and their supremely demented and equally charismatic Jarlaxle has been haunting my every waking moment

tagging @magnvmchasma @brightbluedot @clodiuspulcher @dicaeopolis @antonsokolov and @sciencefiction-doublefeature :)

#lois i will do your reading tag soon i promise 🙏🏻 #ick text

[allbeendonebefore]

for some reason, missionaries keep trying to add/message me on facebook. i saw the first part of the message as "i saw your bio" and thinking it was a "oh you're so hot please date me" scam i laughed because i was like "joke's on you, it's in ancient greek so i know you're lying" but it turned out to be someone (a missionary) wanting to know what it means.

laughed again because he probably thought it was some profound thing but its just "look, it's not possible to lift" from like, book i of athenaze when dicaeopolis and xanthias are standing around complaining about a big rock in the field. I don't even remember why I put it there but it's funny.

but...... maybe it's the reason missionaries keep trying to add me.

#hapo rambles

[wingedscribe]

Five songs! I was tagged by @dicaeopolis for this and barring more instructions I'm assuming it's just list 5 songs youve been liking recently so let's go

Butchered Tongue by Hozier - ok i like the entire most recent album, it's great, but Butchered Tongue is probably my favorite there (close tie with I, Carrion (Icarian)). It helps that I put it on a character playlist and so I listen to it and watch the AMV in my mind and have a great time and end up wildly emotional. Which is a time-honored tradition.

Last Man Standing by Bruce Springsteen - ok so I didn't know this song very well -- it wasn't one of the Springsteen songs I'd really listened to -- and then I ended up hearing it in concert through a completely unexpected sequence of events and it was fantastic. His voice is incredible as ever, it carries the emotion of being the last remnant of a time and a group that no longer exists.

The Dead Waltz by Radical Face - Listen. Weird small children? Talking to spirits and the dead? A narrator who's just trying to be practical in the face of this? The quiet ache of "don't you mind/don't you mind/I'll watch over her as though she were mine" sung by the main character as he promises to take care of the child of the woman he loves who does not love him? It's a good song.

Who Do You Love by Marianas Trench - this song has some hypnotic power over me where it starts playing and no matter what else I was doing i immediately start singing along. Also there was no way a Marianas Trench song didn't make it onto this list.

Anthem by Leonard Cohen - Another song that makes me feel a lot of emotions! I mean, Leonard Cohen is very good at that in general, but for whatever reason Anthem has made a home in my brain right now and isn't leaving.

As for who I'm tagging - I guess @murderandcoffee and @captainmistyknight if they're interested!

#tag game #again i'm unsure the precise rules of this but i saw five songs and gave 5 songs so #there you have it

[toodeepforyou]

FIVE SONGS, tagged by @dicaeopolis

gonna keep this brief, just the top of my latest playlist

1: Stuart - Dead Milkmen

2: Little Talks - Of Monsters and Men

3: About Me - Brynn Diamond

4: Too Much For Comfort - Mercedes Chenrae

5: Cut It Out - computerwife

tagging in turn literally everyone. all tumblr users

[aboutanancientenquiry]

“HUMOUR, ETHNOGRAPHY, AND EMBASSY: HERODOTUS, HISTORIES 3.17–25 AND ARISTOPHANES, ACHARNIANS 61–133* 

Mark C. Mash 

Abstract: This paper explores connections between historiography and Old Comedy by analysing two prominent embassy scenes: first, Herodotus’ depiction of the visit of the ‘Fish Eaters’, chosen emissaries of the Persians, to the court of the Ethiopian king (3.17-25), and second, the scene from Aristophanes, Acharnians (61-133) in which Dicaeopolis meets the Athenian ambassadors who have returned from Persia, bringing a Persian ambassador with them. Both the historian and the comic poet employ ethnic humour, the manipulation of stereotypes, deceptive ambassadors, and the theme of food and wine to create the themes and characters of these meetings, and the paper argues that the two scenes evince significant affnities.”

“III. Conclusion: Embassy Scenes in Herodotus and Aristophanes 

A comparison of the embassy scenes in Herodotus’ Histories (3.17–25) and Aristophanes’ Acharnians (61–133) demonstrates a wide range of connections between the two. I have explored affnities that illuminate some of the broader relationships between historiography and Old Comedy of fifth-century Athens. More commonly noted have been connections between Herodotus and Aristophanes through parody: but parody represents only one way that Aristophanes could make use of Herodotus’ work.

In Acharnians, there is not the same abundance of Herodotean verbal echoes as there is in Birds because, as Nesselrath has argued, Aristophanes was likely working from lectures he had heard rather than from a written text. Affnities to Herodotus in patterning are therefore even more likely in this particular play. Much like the opening section of the Histories that Aristophanes parodies in Acharnians 524–9, Herodotus’ Fish Eaters’ scene has humorous aspects that may have drawn Aristophanes’ attention for the purpose of reworking in the same play. 

 In his essay on the malice of Herodotus, Plutarch provides a helpful catalogue of many of the Histories’ most humour-laden and memorable passages. Despite writing much later than Herodotus, Plutarch offers us insight into an ancient audience’s perception of Herodotus’ humour.54 [ Note 54: van Lennep (1969) 123 observes the importance of Plutarch’s essay for identifying humour in Herodotus. Cf. also Dewald (2006) 158: ‘In some respects, Plutarch is a better reader of [Herodotus’ humour] than many of Herodotus’ modern commentators’. When we reflect on Plutarch’s perception of the malice of Herodotus, whom he terms a ‘barbophile’ (φιλοβάρβαρός, Mal. Her. 12, 857A), we find that Plutarch equates it with ethnic attacks.] In terms of specific connections between the Histories and Acharnians, it is noteworthy that Plutarch targets both Herodotus’ opening (Mal. Her. 856F) and the Fish Eaters’ scene (Mal. Her. 863D; tr. Bowen (1992) 57):

Why not adopt what Herodotus himself says (3.22) that the Ethiopian said about Persian perfume and purple clothes, that the myrrh was a pretence and the garments a pretence, and so say to him that his words are a pretence and his history a pretence, ‘all twisted, nothing sound, all back to front’?

Plutarch’s essay offers evidence about social memory because it reiterates portions of the Histories, like the Fish Eaters’ scene, that may have developed a life of their own apart from the larger text. These same scenes would likely have made ideal recitations that were known before the written version of the text was circulated. Also noteworthy in each instance—Acharnians 61–133 and 524–9—is Aristophanes’ compression of the Herodotean material, and the simplification of subject matter and narrative presentation, a technique not surprising for comedy. The webs of causation that result from the Fish Eaters’ report about the Ethiopian king and his gift of the bow are much too complex to work in comedy. We find instead a much more abbreviated scene in Acharnians that offers a simplified causal proposition: if Dicaeopolis cannot get his polis to seek peace, he has to seek his own private peace.

The anthropological concept of ethnic humour, which includes the use of stereotypes, caricature, and ethnocentrism, is relevant to the discussion of affinities between Herodotus and Aristophanes because this variety of humour would have been expected in fifth-century Athens, which had and was experiencing both war and social upheaval. Perhaps it is complete coincidence that Herodotus and Aristophanes both chose to include embassy scenes with elements in common, and ones that produce ethnic humour, and the presence of this type of humour is a phenomenon to be explained only by their shared cultural and intellectual milieu. Yet it is hard to dismiss the many other affnities between the two scenes. These include some prominent inversions: scene (private vs. public), type (monarchical vs. democratic), host (king vs. private citizen), and ambassadors (Persian ambassadors, via the Fish Eaters,  vs. Athenian ambassadors from Persia). There are also striking similarities: the focus on goods produced naturally vs. manufactured (Ethiopian vs. Persian in Herodotus) or commercialised (Dicaeopolis’ deme before the war vs. Athens during war); the theme of food and wine; the hosts’ ability immediately to perceive truths that the ambassadors try to conceal; the manipulation of stereotypes (in the Fish Eaters’ scene, of uncivilised vs. civilised Ethiopians vs. Persians; in Acharnians, the transference of Persian nomoi onto the Athenian ambassadors for the purpose of derision); the connection between the Ethiopian king’s declaration that Cambyses was not a ‘just’ (dikaios) man (3.21.2) and Aristophanes’ featuring of a hero named Dicaeopolis; the strong connection between the host and author in each scene (Ethiopian king ~ Herodotus, Dicaeopolis ~ Aristophanes); and the causal significance of the embassy scenes in each work.

In addition to its humour, Herodotus’ embassy scene would have also been particularly attractive to Aristophanes for reworking because of the current historical situation: the fact that both Athens and Sparta were seeking financial support from the Persian king would have made reference to all things Persian even more engaging. That Herodotus presented such an entertaining and thought-provoking embassy scene connected to Persia would have made it all the more ripe for the comic poet’s own repurposing.”

Mark Mash Humour, Ethnography, and Embassy: Herodotus, Histories 3.17-25 and Aristophanes, Acharnians 61-133 (abstract and conclusion)

Source: https://histos.org/documents/Ch.3.MashHumourEthnography.pdf

Mark Mash is American classicist

Another thought provoking text on the relation between Herodotus and Old Comedy, especially Aristophanes.

 I remind here that the authenticity of the anti-Herodotus diatribe On the Malice of Herodotus transmitted as a work of Plutarch is doubted by many scholars. 

I remind also that the main motive of animosity toward Herodotus of the (for sure Boetian and very probably of aristocratic milieu) author of this diatribe is first of all Herodotus’ description of the shameful attitude of the Boetians oligarchs during Xerxes’ invasion of Greece, but also Herodotus’ open-mindedness toward non-Greek peoples, which the author of the diatribe perceived as “philobarbarism”.

#herodotus #aristophanes #ancient greek classics #humor and ethnography #mark mash

[natasa-pantovic]

Athenian culture was ‘cast’ directly through theatre, it was moulded, and remoulded now inhabit not only our dreams, but our history, or legal speeches, philosophical dialogues, love thoughts or the interior decor of houses. Internet culture is “cast” directly through Internet and Society still places a great premium on entertainers who fit the bill while the rest is badly paid or not paid at all.

Modern psychologists argue that the origins of theatre archetypal roles lie deep in human beings collective sub consciousness, manifested in the repertoire of every human culture at any point of time. When the travel was limited, theatre had the function of philosophers, prophets and historians. Aristotle suggests using feelings. Laughter, fear, was most commonly used: Gladiator fights, slaves with lions, etc. Exploiting the mood of the crowd.

Following own research, I was particularly interested in Ancient Greek Improvisation Triangle from The Theatrical Cast of Athens:

To use the Dicaeopolis actor’s words, “A ‘must appear to be’ B in the eyes the audience. In this triangular process, two parties exist and are present: A (the actor) and C (the spectator). But B - the role - is improvised. B could be an animal, a symbol, or a god. B could be dead, as yet unborn.”

#natasa pantovic #inspirational #consciousness #books #mind #motivational #mindfulness #ancient history #art