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Operation Stumpy Re-Read
ADWD: Daenerys IX (Chapter 52)
Where is Vicky? I've waited long enough.
Jhiqui brought a soft towel to pat her dry. "Khaleesi, which tokar will you want today?" asked Irri.
"The yellow silk." The queen of the rabbits could not be seen without her floppy ears. The yellow silk was light and cool, and it would be blistering down in the pit. The red sands will burn the soles of those about to die. "And over it, the long red veils." The veils would keep the wind from blowing sand into her mouth. And the red will hide any blood spatters.
You have no idea.
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At the base of the Great Pyramid, Ser Barristan awaited them beside an ornate open palanquin, surrounded by Brazen Beasts. Ser Grandfather, Dany thought. Despite his age, he looked tall and handsome in the armor that she'd given him. "I would be happier if you had Unsullied guards about you today, Your Grace," the old knight said, as Hizdahr went to greet his cousin. "Half of these Brazen Beasts are untried freedmen." And the other half are Meereenese of doubtful loyalty, he left unsaid. Selmy mistrusted all the Meereenese, even shavepates.
It's LOCUSTS TIME!
Who poisoned the locusts? I apologize, we'll need Barry's POV to help solve this mystery. Today we'll only be covering the three major suspects.
Starting with SUSPECT #1: the Brazen Beasts (the Shavepate).
Within the first few paragraphs of the chapter we learn 1) the Brazen Beasts are guarding Daenerys instead of the Unsullied, 2) Some have doubtful loyalty.
We're off to a good start.
Ser Grandfather, Dany thought.
I would do anything for her to slip and say this out loud.
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"A mask can hide many things, Your Grace. Is the man behind the owl mask the same owl who guarded you yesterday and the day before? How can we know?"
"How should Meereen ever come to trust the Brazen Beasts if I do not? There are good brave men beneath those masks. I put my life into their hands." 
3) They're unidentifiable.
The Shavepate was absent as well. The first thing Hizdahr had done upon being crowned was to remove him from command of the Brazen Beasts, replacing him with his own cousin, the plump and pasty Marghaz zo Loraq. It is for the best. The Green Grace says there is blood between Loraq and Kandaq, and the Shavepate never made a secret of his disdain for my lord husband. And Daario … - Daenerys VIII, ADWD
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If I wed Hizdahr, will that turn Skahaz against me? She trusted Skahaz more than she trusted Hizdahr, but the Shavepate would be a disaster as a king. He was too quick to anger, too slow to forgive. - Daenerys IV, ADWD
We don't know if the Shavepate is lurking under one of these masks.
I put my life into their hands.
Oop.
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Dany smiled for him. "You fret too much, ser. I will have you beside me, what other protection do I need?"
Please oh please let him be there when she's murdered. I don't ask for much.
"Barristan the Bold, they call him. Twice he has saved me from assassins." - Daenerys III, ADWD
Three!!
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"Your Grace. We set the woman Meris free, as you commanded. Before she went, she asked to speak with you. I met with her instead. She claims this Tattered Prince meant to bring the Windblown over to your cause from the beginning. That he sent her here to treat with you secretly, but the Dornishmen unmasked them and betrayed them before she could make her own approach."
Treachery on treachery, the queen thought wearily. Is there no end to it? "How much of this do you believe, ser?"
"Little and less, Your Grace, but those were her words."
"Will they come over to us, if need be?"
"She says they will. But for a price."
"Pay it." Meereen needed iron, not gold.
"The Tattered Prince will want more than coin, Your Grace. Meris says that he wants Pentos."
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"Pentos belongs to the Pentoshi. And Magister Illyrio is in Pentos. He who arranged my marriage to Khal Drogo and gave me my dragon eggs. Who sent me you, and Belwas, and Groleo. I owe him much and more. I will not repay that debt by giving his city to some sellsword. No."
This must be here for a reason.
Let's see if she keeps this same energy when she learns about Illyrio and Aegon.
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Ser Barristan inclined his head. "Your Grace is wise."
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"Auspicious for you, perhaps. Less so for those who must die before the sun goes down."
"All men must die," said Hizdahr
Hehe.
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When they caught sight of the palanquin emerging from the pyramid, a cheer went up from those nearest and spread across the plaza. How queer, the queen thought. They cheer me on the same plaza where I once impaled one hundred sixty-three Great Masters.
Daenerys rejecting a cheering crowd? Nothing will make this girl happy at this point.
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A great drum led the royal procession to clear their way through the streets. Between each beat, a shavepate herald in a shirt of polished copper disks cried for the crowd to part. BOMM. "They come!" BOMM. "Make way!" BOMM. "The queen!" BOMM. "The king!" BOMM. 
The Red Wedding taught me to be wary of these noises.
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Behind the drum marched Brazen Beasts four abreast. Some carried cudgels, others staves; all wore pleated skirts, leathern sandals, and patchwork cloaks sewn from squares of many colors to echo the many-colored bricks of Meereen. Their masks gleamed in the sun: boars and bulls, hawks and herons, lions and tigers and bears, fork-tongued serpents and hideous basilisks.
SUSPECT #1: the Brazen Beasts (the Shavepate) are name-dropped roughly 57 times at the start of this chapter. The author wants you to be aware of their presence.
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Dany could hear her handmaids arguing behind her, debating who was going to win the day's final match. Jhiqui favored the gigantic Goghor, who looked more bull than man, even to the bronze ring in his nose. Irri insisted that Belaquo Bonebreaker's flail would prove the giant's undoing. My handmaids are Dothraki, she told herself. Death rides with every khalasar. The day she wed Khal Drogo, the arakhs had flashed at her wedding feast, and men had died whilst others drank and mated. Life and death went hand in hand amongst the horselords, and a sprinkling of blood was thought to bless a marriage. Her new marriage would soon be drenched in blood. How blessed it would be.
You are also Dothraki in mind and spirit.
And did a whole lot less bitching at all the barbaric shit they did.
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BOMM, BOMM, BOMM, BOMM, BOMM, BOMM, came the drumbeats, faster than before, suddenly angry and impatient. Ser Barristan drew his sword as the column ground to an abrupt halt between the pink-and-white pyramid of Pahl and the green-and-black of Naqqan.
Dany turned. "Why are we stopped?"
Hizdahr stood. "The way is blocked."
A palanquin lay overturned athwart their way. 
Enter SUSPECT #2: House Pahl.
Why House Pahl?
There's a lot of bad blood between Daenerys and House Pahl.
It was true that there was blood between her and the House of Pahl. Oznak zo Pahl had been cut down by Strong Belwas in single combat. His father, commander of Meereen's city watch, had died defending the gates when Joso's Cock smashed them into splinters. Three uncles had been among the hundred sixty-three on the plaza. - Daenerys I, ADWD
It's now a house comprised of women who don't forgive or forget.
"You have no lack of enemies, Your Grace. You can see their pyramids from your terrace. Zhak, Hazkar, Ghazeen, Merreq, Loraq, all the old slaving families. Pahl. Pahl, most of all. A house of women now. Bitter old women with a taste for blood. Women do not forget. Women do not forgive." - Daenerys I, ADWD
Not the best situation to be abruptly stopped between a pyramid of theirs and Naqqan.
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Ser Barristan glanced uneasily to left and right. Ghiscari faces were visible on the terraces, looking down with cool and unsympathetic eyes. "Your Grace, I do not like this halt. This may be some trap. The Sons of the Harpy—"
"—have been tamed," declared Hizdahr zo Loraq. 
Apparently Hizdahr knows the Common Tongue.
Or maybe the author is being ditzy again.
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"Why should they seek to harm my queen when she has taken me for her king and consort? Now help that man, as my sweet queen has commanded." He took Dany by the hand and smiled.
I'm skipping ahead, but I have to make a point.
Introducing SUSPECT #3: Hizdahr zo Loraq.
I know what you're asking yourselves -
"Didn't she make him king? Didn't he get his fighting pits reopened? Didn't he successfully convince her to allow the slave trade to continue in Slaver's Bay? Didn't he get everything he wanted?"
Yes.
"What's his motive? Why would he want to kill Daenerys before they produce an heir?"
I don't know, ask the dumbfuck in white.
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The Brazen Beasts did as they were bid. Dany watched them at their work. "Those bearers were slaves before I came. I made them free. Yet that palanquin is no lighter."
"True," said Hizdahr, "but those men are paid to bear its weight now. Before you came, that man who fell would have an overseer standing over him, stripping the skin off his back with a whip. Instead he is being given aid."
It was true. A Brazen Beast in a boar mask had offered the litter bearer a skin of water. "I suppose I must be thankful for small victories," the queen said.
How is that a small victory?
The Brazen Beasts are doing things!
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"One step, then the next, and soon we shall be running. Together we shall make a new Meereen." 
Slly goose, why walk when you can fly?
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Around them peddlers were selling dog sausages, roast onions, and unborn puppies on a stick, but Dany had no need of such. 
My Western brain is simply aghast at the cultural practices of these primitive uncivilized people.
The wedding feast began with a thin leek soup, followed by a salad of green beans, onions, and beets, river pike poached in almond milk, mounds of mashed turnips that were cold before they reached the table, jellied calves' brains, and a leche of stringy beef. - Catelyn VII, ASOS
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Hizdahr had stocked their box with flagons of chilled wine and sweetwater, with figs, dates, melons, and pomegranates, with pecans and peppers and a big bowl of honeyed locusts. Strong Belwas bellowed, "Locusts!" as he seized the bowl and began to crunch them by the handful.
"Those are very tasty," advised Hizdahr. "You ought to try a few yourself, my love. They are rolled in spice before the honey, so they are sweet and hot at once."
"That explains the way Belwas is sweating," Dany said. "I believe I will content myself with figs and dates."
Boy, that doesn't look good for SUSPECT #3: Hizdahr zo Loraq.
Except, if he is trying to kill Daenerys, he's doing it in a way that would guarantee he's the prime suspect. Imagine how stupid it would have been if Olenna chose to hand Joffrey the glass of wine.
For the record, the locusts were already in their box when they arrived, Hizdahr was unbothered when she declined, and he will never mention the locusts again.
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Across the pit the Graces sat in flowing robes of many colors, clustered around the austere figure of Galazza Galare, who alone amongst them wore the green. The Great Masters of Meereen occupied the red and orange benches. The women were veiled, and the men had brushed and lacquered their hair into horns and hands and spikes. Hizdahr's kin of the ancient line of Loraq seemed to favor tokars of purple and indigo and lilac, whilst those of Pahl were striped in pink and white. 
Random SUSPECT #2: House Pahl mention.
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"Great Masters! My queen has come this day, to show her love for you, her people. By her grace and with her leave, I give you now your mortal art. Meereen! Let Queen Daenerys hear your love!"
Ten thousand throats roared out their thanks; then twenty thousand; then all. They did not call her name, which few of them could pronounce. "Mother!" they cried instead; in the old dead tongue of Ghis, the word was Mhysa! They stamped their feet and slapped their bellies and shouted, "Mhysa, Mhysa, Mhysa," until the whole pit seemed to tremble. Dany let the sound wash over her. I am not your mother, she might have shouted, back, I am the mother of your slaves, of every boy who ever died upon these sands whilst you gorged on honeyed locusts. Behind her, Reznak leaned in to whisper in her ear, "Magnificence, hear how they love you!"
No, she knew, they love their mortal art. 
Even "Mhysa, Mhysa, Mhysa" is not cheering up grumpy? Man oh man, these people are going to die a bad death.
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Khrazz was Meereenese, of humble birth—a tall man with a brush of stiff red-black hair running down the center of his head. His foe was an ebon-skinned spearman from the Summer Isles whose thrusts kept Khrazz at bay for a time, but once he slipped inside the spear with his shortsword, only butchery remained. After it was done, Khrazz cut the heart from the black man, raised it above his head red and dripping, and took a bite from it.
"Khrazz believes the hearts of brave men make him stronger," said Hizdahr. Jhiqui murmured her approval. Dany had once eaten a stallion's heart to give strength to her unborn son … but that had not saved Rhaego when the maegi murdered him in her womb.
Ser Jorah had killed her son, Dany knew. He had done what he did for love and loyalty, yet he had carried her into a place no living man should go and fed her baby to the darkness. He knew it too; the grey face, the hollow eyes, the limp. "The shadows have touched you too, Ser Jorah," she told him. The knight made no reply. Dany turned to the godswife. "You warned me that only death could pay for life. I thought you meant the horse."
"No," Mirri Maz Duur said. "That was a lie you told yourself. You knew the price."
Had she? Had she? If I look back I am lost. "The price was paid," Dany said. - Daenerys IX, AGOT
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Three treasons shall you know. She was the first, Jorah was the second, Brown Ben Plumm the third. Was she done with betrayals?
How is Brown Ben Plumm your treason for love? God, what a dumb person.
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"Ah," said Hizdahr, pleased. "Now comes the Spotted Cat. See how he moves, my queen. A poem on two feet."
The foe Hizdahr had found for the walking poem was as tall as Goghor and as broad as Belwas, but slow. They were fighting six feet from Dany's box when the Spotted Cat hamstrung him. As the man stumbled to his knees, the Cat put a foot on his back and a hand around his head and opened his throat from ear to ear. The red sands drank his blood, the wind his final words. The crowd screamed its approval.
Some of these fights appear to be foreshadowing future events. It's possible the Spotted Cat might be hinting at someone.
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If Arya is slitting someone's throat, it's not Walder Frey's.
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"Bad fighting, good dying," said Strong Belwas. "Strong Belwas hates it when they scream." He had finished all the honeyed locusts. He gave a belch and took a swig of wine.
Daenerys loves it when they scream.
Because he drank wine, a ton of people question whether it was the locusts or the wine that poisoned him.
Why does it matter? We don't have to overthink this.
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"This one shows much promise, my sweet," Hizdahr said of a Lysene youth with long blond hair that fluttered in the wind … but his foe grabbed a handful of that hair, pulled the boy off-balance, and gutted him. In death he looked even younger than he had with blade in hand. "A boy," said Dany. "He was only a boy."
"Six-and-ten," Hizdahr insisted. "A man grown, who freely chose to risk his life for gold and glory. No children die today in Daznak's, as my gentle queen in her wisdom has decreed."
That's considered fAegon evidence.
Aurane did not resemble Prince Rhaegar as much as she had thought. He has the hair, but so do half the whores in Lys, if the tales are true. Rhaegar was a man. This is a sly boy, no more. Useful in his way, though. - Cersei VIII, ADWD
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He was a lithe and well-made youth, with a lanky build and a shock of dark blue hair. The dwarf put his age at fifteen, sixteen, or near enough to make no matter. - Tyrion III, ADWD
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"A boy," said Dany. "He was only a boy."
"Six-and-ten," Hizdahr insisted.
"Slay the Good Masters, slay the soldiers, slay every man who wears a tokar or holds a whip, but harm no child under twelve, and strike the chains off every slave you see." - Daenerys III, ASOS
Shut up, Daenerys.
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Another small victory. Perhaps I cannot make my people good, she told herself, but I should at least try to make them a little less bad. 
Do you ever remember her thinking about the Dothraki this way? I don't.
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It had been the custom to sentence criminals to the pits; that practice she agreed might resume, but only for certain crimes. "Murderers and rapers may be forced to fight, and all those who persist in slaving, but not thieves or debtors."
It's okay when we're doing Justice™.
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Beasts were still allowed, though. Dany watched an elephant make short work of a pack of six red wolves.
The number six is a little troubling. Hopefully nothing.
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Next a bull was set against a bear in a bloody battle that left both animals torn and dying. "The flesh is not wasted," said Hizdahr. "The butchers use the carcasses to make a healthful stew for the hungry. Any man who presents himself at the Gates of Fate may have a bowl."
"A good law," Dany said. You have so few of them. "We must make certain that this tradition is continued."
Has the novelty worn off?
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After the beast fights came a mock battle, pitting six men on foot against six horsemen, the former armed with shields and longswords, the latter with Dothraki arakhs. The mock knights were clad in mail hauberks, whilst the mock Dothraki wore no armor. At first the riders seemed to have the advantage, riding down two of their foes and slashing the ear from a third, but then the surviving knights began to attack the horses, and one by one the riders were unmounted and slain, to Jhiqui's great disgust. "That was no true khalasar," she said.
Bwahahahaha.
First the snow, and now this? I'm starting to think these Dothraki might struggle in Westeros!
The man was no knight, but his courage had earned him that much courtesy. Khrazz did not know how to fight a man in armor. Ser Barristan could see it in his eyes: doubt, confusion, the beginnings of fear. The pit fighter came on again, screaming this time, as if sound could slay his foe where steel could not. The arakh slashed low, high, low again. - The Kingbreaker, ADWD
(Shoutout to @redwolf17 for helping me find the quote!)
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The battle was followed by the day's first folly, a tilt between a pair of jousting dwarfs, presented by one of the Yunkish lords that Hizdahr had invited to the games. One rode a hound, the other a sow. Their wooden armor had been freshly painted, so one bore the stag of the usurper Robert Baratheon, the other the golden lion of House Lannister. That was for her sake, plainly. Their antics soon had Belwas snorting laughter, though Dany's smile was faint and forced. When the dwarf in red tumbled from the saddle and began to chase his sow across the sands, whilst the dwarf on the dog galloped after him, whapping at his buttocks with a wooden sword, she said, "This is sweet and silly, but …"
"Be patient, my sweet," said Hizdahr. "They are about to loose the lions."
Daenerys gave him a quizzical look. "Lions?"
"Three of them. The dwarfs will not expect them."
She frowned. "The dwarfs have wooden swords. Wooden armor. How do you expect them to fight lions?"
"Badly," said Hizdahr, "though perhaps they will surprise us. More like they will shriek and run about and try to climb out of the pit. That is what makes this a folly."
Dany was not pleased. "I forbid it."
"Gentle queen. You do not want to disappoint your people."
"You swore to me that the fighters would be grown men who had freely consented to risk their lives for gold and honor. These dwarfs did not consent to battle lions with wooden swords. You will stop it. Now."
The king's mouth tightened. For a heartbeat Dany thought she saw a flash of anger in those placid eyes. "As you command." Hizdahr beckoned to his pitmaster. "No lions," he said when the man trotted over, whip in hand.
And just like that, Hizdahr becomes a sadist.
That must mean someone is going to brutally kill him.
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The dwarfs were herded off, pig and dog and all, as the spectators hissed their disapproval and pelted them with stones and rotten fruit.
Why must Penny be there? I'm not allowed to have one happy moment.
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The boar was a huge beast, with tusks as long as a man's forearm and small eyes that swam with rage. She wondered whether the boar that had killed Robert Baratheon had looked as fierce. A terrible creature and a terrible death. For a heartbeat she felt almost sorry for the Usurper.
"Barsena is very quick," Reznak said. "She will dance with the boar, Magnificence, and slice him when he passes near her. He will be awash in blood before he falls, you shall see."
It began just as he said. The boar charged, Barsena spun aside, her blade flashed silver in the sun. "She needs a spear," Ser Barristan said, as Barsena vaulted over the beast's second charge. "That is no way to fight a boar." He sounded like someone's fussy old grandsire, just as Daario was always saying.
Sure, now you're a boar expert.
He sounded like someone's fussy old grandsire, just as Daario was always saying.
How do people read this and not see Cersei?
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Shouting, she edged closer to the boar, tossing her knife from hand to hand. When the beast backed away, she cursed and slashed at his snout, trying to provoke him … and succeeding. This time her leap came an instant too late, and a tusk ripped her left leg open from knee to crotch.
A moan went up from thirty thousand throats. Clutching at her torn leg, Barsena dropped her knife and tried to hobble off, but before she had gone two feet the boar was on her once again. 
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"Fighting pigs is brave, but it is not brave to scream so loud. It hurts Strong Belwas in the ears." The eunuch rubbed his swollen stomach, crisscrossed with old white scars. "It makes Strong Belwas sick in his belly too."
See what happens when you talk shit?
That's why I always have ipecac on hand.
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The boar buried his snout in Barsena's belly and began rooting out her entrails. The smell was more than the queen could stand. The heat, the flies, the shouts from the crowd … I cannot breathe. She lifted her veil and let it flutter away. She took her tokar off as well. The pearls rattled softly against one another as she unwound the silk.
"Khaleesi?" Irri asked. "What are you doing?"
"Taking off my floppy ears."
There goes the pearly tokar. Forever.
Guys, I think she might be done with Meereen.
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(Is she half naked? Lol.)
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"Belaquo will win," Irri declared. "It is known."
"It is not known," Jhiqui said. "Belaquo will die."
"One will die, or the other will," said Dany. "And the one who lives will die some other day. This was a mistake."
"Strong Belwas ate too many locusts." There was a queasy look on Belwas's broad brown face. "Strong Belwas needs milk."
Hizdahr ignored the eunuch. 
SUSPECT #3: Hizdahr zo Loraq doesn't appear to know what's happening to Strong Belwas. Kind of strange when you're the one who poisoned the locusts.
The Dothraki girls loving the entertainment is a nice touch.
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"Magnificence, the people of Meereen have come to celebrate our union. You heard them cheering you. Do not cast away their love."
"It was my floppy ears they cheered, not me. Take me from this abbatoir, husband." 
Look at how pouty she is over fake love.
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A shadow rippled across his face.
The tumult and the shouting died. Ten thousand voices stilled. Every eye turned skyward. A warm wind brushed Dany's cheeks, and above the beating of her heart she heard the sound of wings. Two spearmen dashed for shelter. The pitmaster froze where he stood. The boar went snuffling back to Barsena. Strong Belwas gave a moan, stumbled from his seat, and fell to his knees.
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Above them all the dragon turned, dark against the sun. His scales were black, his eyes and horns and spinal plates blood red. Ever the largest of her three, in the wild Drogon had grown larger still. His wings stretched twenty feet from tip to tip, black as jet. He flapped them once as he swept back above the sands, and the sound was like a clap of thunder. The boar raised his head, snorting … and flame engulfed him, black fire shot with red. Dany felt the wash of heat thirty feet away. The beast's dying scream sounded almost human. Drogon landed on the carcass and sank his claws into the smoking flesh. As he began to feed, he made no distinction between Barsena and the boar.
Won't be the last time we hear that sound.
Thunder!
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"Oh, gods," moaned Reznak, "he's eating her!" The seneschal covered his mouth. Strong Belwas was retching noisily. A queer look passed across Hizdahr zo Loraq's long, pale face—part fear, part lust, part rapture. He licked his lips.
Will someone get Belwas some ginger ale?
I don't think she's projecting.
"Hot and sweet and poisoned. With mine own ears I heard you commanding the men in the pit to kill Drogon. Shouting at them."
Hizdahr licked his lips. "The beast devoured Barsena's flesh. Dragons prey on men. It was killing, burning …" - The Kingbreaker, ADWD
Hizdahr has suddenly transformed into a weirdo who fetishizes all violence.
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Dany could see the Pahls streaming up the steps, clutching their tokars and tripping over the fringes in their haste to be away. Others followed. Some ran, shoving at one another. More stayed in their seats.
There goes SUSPECT #2: House Pahl. No other family mentioned.
Do I think the author is purposely misleading the reader? Yes.
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One man took it on himself to be a hero.
He was one of the spearmen sent out to drive the boar back to his pen. Perhaps he was drunk, or mad. Perhaps he had loved Barsena Blackhair from afar or had heard some whisper of the girl Hazzea. Perhaps he was just some common man who wanted bards to sing of him. He darted forward, his boar spear in his hands. Red sand kicked up beneath his heels, and shouts rang out from the seats. Drogon raised his head, blood dripping from his teeth.
Say her name.
I know it's similar, but I don't believe the Jaime charging Drogon scene was real. It was too stupid.
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The hero leapt onto his back and drove the iron spearpoint down at the base of the dragon's long scaled neck.
Dany and Drogon screamed as one.
Sansa couldn't help but smile a little. The kennelmaster once told her that an animal takes after its master. - Sansa I, AGOT
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The hero leaned into his spear, using his weight to twist the point in deeper. Drogon arched upward with a hiss of pain. His tail lashed sideways. She watched his head crane around at the end of that long serpentine neck, saw his black wings unfold. The dragonslayer lost his footing and went tumbling to the sand. He was trying to struggle back to his feet when the dragon's teeth closed hard around his forearm. "No" was all the man had time to shout. Drogon wrenched his arm from his shoulder and tossed it aside as a dog might toss a rodent in a rat pit.
NOT A RAT PIT.
She called him a dragonslayer, I love it.
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"Kill it," Hizdahr zo Loraq shouted to the other spearmen. "Kill the beast!"
Ser Barristan held her tightly. "Look away, Your Grace."
"Let me go!" Dany twisted from his grasp. The world seemed to slow as she cleared the parapet. When she landed in the pit she lost a sandal. Running, she could feel the sand between her toes, hot and rough. Ser Barristan was calling after her. Strong Belwas was still vomiting. She ran faster.
It's reverse Cinderella. Drizella lost her shoe while running towards her Prince Charming. Shoutout to @agentrouka-blog for the laugh!
All the Strong Belwas stuff happening in the background is so funny.
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The hero was jerking on the sand, the bright blood pouring from the ragged stump of his shoulder. His spear remained in Drogon's back, wobbling as the dragon beat his wings. Smoke rose from the wound. As the other spears closed in, the dragon spat fire, bathing two men in black flame.
His flames are black? I didn't know that.
I'm not suggesting he's Black Flame from the Quaithe warning.
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The Meereenese were screaming, cursing, howling. Dany could hear someone pounding after her. "Drogon," she screamed. "Drogon."
His head turned. Smoke rose between his teeth. His blood was smoking too, where it dripped upon the ground. He beat his wings again, sending up a choking storm of scarlet sand. Dany stumbled into the hot red cloud, coughing. He snapped.
"No" was all that she had time to say. No, not me, don't you know me? The black teeth closed inches from her face. He meant to tear my head off. The sand was in her eyes. She stumbled over the pitmaster's corpse and fell on her backside.
Lady would never.
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Drogon roared. The sound filled the pit. A furnace wind engulfed her. The dragon's long scaled neck stretched toward her. When his mouth opened, she could see bits of broken bone and charred flesh between his black teeth. His eyes were molten. I am looking into hell, but I dare not look away. She had never been so certain of anything. If I run from him, he will burn me and devour me.
Ghost would never.
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In Westeros the septons spoke of seven hells and seven heavens, but the Seven Kingdoms and their gods were far away. If she died here, Dany wondered, would the horse god of the Dothraki part the grass and claim her for his starry khalasar, so she might ride the nightlands beside her sun-and-stars? Or would the angry gods of Ghis send their harpies to seize her soul and drag her down to torment? Drogon roared full in her face, his breath hot enough to blister skin.
Of course she hopes for a Dothraki heaven.
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Off to her right Dany heard Barristan Selmy shouting, "Me! Try me. Over here. Me!"
You have one job, demon.
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In the smoldering red pits of Drogon's eyes, Dany saw her own reflection. How small she looked, how weak and frail and scared. I cannot let him see my fear. She scrabbled in the sand, pushing against the pitmaster's corpse, and her fingers brushed against the handle of his whip. Touching it made her feel braver. The leather was warm, alive. Drogon roared again, the sound so loud that she almost dropped the whip. His teeth snapped at her.
Summer would never.
The whip kills me every time.
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Dany hit him. "No," she screamed, swinging the lash with all the strength that she had in her. The dragon jerked his head back. "No," she screamed again. "NO!" The barbs raked along his snout. Drogon rose, his wings covering her in shadow. Dany swung the lash at his scaled belly, back and forth until her arm began to ache. His long serpentine neck bent like an archer's bow. With a hisssssss, he spat black fire down at her. Dany darted underneath the flames, swinging the whip and shouting, "No, no, no. Get DOWN!" His answering roar was full of fear and fury, full of pain. His wings beat once, twice …
… and folded. The dragon gave one last hiss and stretched out flat upon his belly. Black blood was flowing from the wound where the spear had pierced him, smoking where it dripped onto the scorched sands. He is fire made flesh, she thought, and so am I.
I'm going to have to stop there, because Drogon's about as well trained as Nymeria.
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Daenerys Targaryen vaulted onto the dragon's back, seized the spear, and ripped it out. The point was half-melted, the iron red-hot, glowing. She flung it aside. Drogon twisted under her, his muscles rippling as he gathered his strength. The air was thick with sand. Dany could not see, she could not breathe, she could not think. The black wings cracked like thunder, and suddenly the scarlet sands were falling away beneath her.
Thunder!
Why am I not getting a description of Barry's charred body? These god damn Targaryens and their dragons can't do anything right.
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The lash was still in her hand. She flicked it against Drogon's neck and cried, "Higher!" Her other hand clutched at his scales, her fingers scrabbling for purchase. Drogon's wide black wings beat the air. Dany could feel the heat of him between her thighs. Her heart felt as if it were about to burst. Yes, she thought, yes, now, now, do it, do it, take me, take me, FLY!
Look, they're consummating the marriage.
This is so much funnier when you realize she removed clothing.
Final thoughts:
Don't you love how the show turned the Second Coming of Satan chapter into a scene where baby boy Drogon gets to heroically save his mommy from the evil ambushing Sons of the Harpy?
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He is fire made flesh, she thought, and so am I. Daenerys Targaryen vaulted onto the dragon’s back, seized the spear, and ripped it out.
This moment is one of my favourites in the entire series. She’s riding a dragon!!!
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DAENERYS TARGARYEN APPRECIATION WEEK Day 2: Themes/Tropes
Longing for Love, Home and Family
She could smell home, she could see it, there, just beyond that door, green fields and great stone houses and arms to keep her warm, there. — Daenerys IX, AGOT "I was looking for a house with a red door, but by night all the doors are black." — Daenerys VI, ASOS In her dream they had been man and wife, simple folk who lived a simple life in a tall stone house with a red door. — Daenerys II, ADWD She was the blood of the dragon. She could kill the Sons of the Harpy, and the sons of the sons, and the sons of the sons of the sons. But a dragon could not feed a hungry child nor help a dying woman’s pain. And who would ever dare to love a dragon? — Daenerys II, ADWD
... and finding it eventually. ❤️
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DAENERYS TARGARYEN WEEK 2023
↳ DAY 4: Character Parallels with Arya Stark
Wolves never cry, she reminded herself again. (Arya IX, ASOS)
The dragon does not weep. She was bleeding, but it was only woman’s blood. (Daenerys X, ADWD)
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DANY WEEK 2023 ↳ Day 3: Badass moments Daenerys IX, ADWD
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ACoK - Bran VII
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ADwD - Daenerys II
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ASoS - Jaime IX
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AFfC - Brienne VII
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AFfC - Samwell IV
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AGoT - Jon VIII
“asoiaf is nihilistic and grimdark” absolutely not.
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Flying, she thought. I had wings, I was flying. But it was only a dream.
Yet when she slept that night, she dreamt the dragon dream again. Viserys was not in it this time. There was only her and the dragon. Its scales were black as night, wet and slick with blood. Her blood, Dany sensed. Its eyes were pools of molten magma, and when it opened its mouth, the flame came roaring out in a hot jet. She could hear it singing to her. She opened her arms to the fire, embraced it, let it swallow her whole, let it cleanse her and temper her and scour her clean. She could feel her flesh sear and blacken and slough away, could feel her blood boil and turn to steam, and yet there was no pain. She felt strong and new and fierce. (AGOT, Daenerys III)
I don't think Dany will be killed by any human being.
Drogon roared. The sound filled the pit. A furnace wind engulfed her. The dragon's long scaled neck stretched toward her. When his mouth opened, she could see bits of broken bone and charred flesh between his black teeth. His eyes were molten. I am looking into hell, but I dare not look away. She had never been so certain of anything. If I run from him, he will burn me and devour me. In Westeros the septons spoke of seven hells and seven heavens, but the Seven Kingdoms and their gods were far away. If she died here, Dany wondered, would the horse god of the Dothraki part the grass and claim her for his starry khalasar, so she might ride the nightlands beside her sun-and-stars? Or would the angry gods of Ghis send their harpies to seize her soul and drag her down to torment? Drogon roared full in her face, his breath hot enough to blister skin. [...] In the smoldering red pits of Drogon's eyes, Dany saw her own reflection. How small she looked, how weak and frail and scared. I cannot let him see my fear. She scrabbled in the sand, pushing against the pitmaster's corpse, and her fingers brushed against the handle of his whip. Touching it made her feel braver. The leather was warm, alive. Drogon roared again, the sound so loud that she almost dropped the whip. His teeth snapped at her. (ADWD, Daenerys IX)
I think she will seek refuge in the dragon, one way or the other, and seal her own fate. Choose her own fate, even, rejecting whatever alternatives there may exist for her that represent defeat.
There is no motive anyone can offer up for successfully killing her that would match the tragic poetry of self-destruction. The heart in conflict with itself is not about whether or not it's right to kill Dany in a vulnerable moment. It's about Dany's heart, about Dany's choice between life and power, and choosing self-destructive power.
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Daenerys' storyline by Onirio - Part 4:
1) Another visit (Daenerys II ADWD);
2) Dinner with entertainment (Daenerys III ADWD);
3) The dragon queen and her gallant monster (Daenerys IV ADWD);
4) She is burning (Daenerys V ADWD);
5) The calm before the storm (Daenerys VI ADWD);
6) Dragon queen, frog prince (Daenerys VII ADWD);
7) The siege of Meereen (Tyrion X ADWD);
8) How did it come to this? (Daenerys VIII ADWD);
9) A monument to the Mortal Art (Daenerys IX ADWD);
10) Remember who you are (Daenerys X ADWD).
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GEORGE R. R. MARTIN ON WHAT MAKES A GOOD KING:
“A good king is someone who regards being king as a duty rather than a privilege that they are entitled to. A duty to the realm to dispense justice and peace, and occasionally do boring things like building roads and sanitation in Kings Landing and all that.” (San Diego Comic-Con “House of the Dragon” panel)
“Someone who regards being king as a duty rather than a privilege that they are entitled to”:
“A queen must listen to all,” she reminded him. “The highborn and the low, the strong and the weak, the noble and the venal. One voice may speak you false, but in many there is always truth to be found.” (ASOS, Daenerys I)
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“Viserys should have protected me, but instead he hurt me and scared me worse. He shouldn't have done that. He wasn't just my brother, he was my king. Why do the gods make kings and queens, if not to protect the ones who can't protect themselves?” (ASOS, Daenerys III)
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“No one ever kept me safe when I was little. I want to protect you but … it is so hard. To be strong. I don’t always know what I should do. I must, though. I am all they have. I am the queen.” (ADWD, Daenerys II)
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A queen belongs not to herself but to her people. (ADWD, Daenerys V)
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Yesterday a wagon had been overturned and two of her soldiers killed, so today the queen had determined that she would bring the food herself. Every one of her advisors had argued fervently against it, from Reznak and the Shavepate to Ser Barristan, but Daenerys would not be moved. “I will not turn away from them,” she said stubbornly. “A queen must know the sufferings of her people.” (ADWD, Daenerys VI)
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A queen must listen to her people, Dany reminded herself. (ADWD, Daenerys VI)
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“A queen loves where she must, not where she will.” (ADWD, Daenerys VII)
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She would rather have drifted in the fragrant pool all day, eating iced fruit off silver trays and dreaming of a house with a red door, but a queen belongs to her people, not to herself. (ADWD, Daenerys IX)
“A duty to the realm to dispense justice and peace”:
“Some kings make themselves. Robert did.”
“He was no true king,” Dany said scornfully. “He did no justice. Justice ... that's what kings are for.” (ASOS, Daenerys III)
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Dany would gladly have sent the rest of the petitioners away … but she was still their queen, so she heard them out and did her best to give them justice. (ADWD, Daenerys III)
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I am still at war, Dany realized, only now I am fighting shadows. She had hoped for a respite from the killing, for some time to build and heal. (ADWD, Daenerys I)
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“...This match will save our city, you will see.”
“So we pray. I want to plant my olive trees and see them fruit.” Does it matter that Hizdahr's kisses do not please me? Peace will please me. Am I a queen or just a woman? (ADWD, Daenerys VII)
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On the ADWD cover for Brazil, I put Daenerys at the top of the stairs of the meereenese pyramid. I had undoubtedly been, unconsciously, influenced by the series. And George told me that Daenerys wants equality for everyone, she wants to be at the same level as her people, so I had her climb down to keep it consistent. — Marc Simonetti
“and occasionally do boring things like building roads and sanitation”:
Her Unsullied had finally restored order, but the sack left a plague of problems in its wake. And so they came to see the queen. (ADWD, Daenerys I)
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“Ser Barristan,” she called, “I know what quality a king needs most.”
“Courage, Your Grace?”
“Cheeks like iron,” she teased. "All I do is sit.”
“Your Grace takes too much on herself. You should allow your councillors to shoulder more of your burdens.”
“I have too many councillors and too few cushions.” (ADWD, Daenerys I)
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“The freedmen work cheaply because they are hungry”, Dany pointed out. “If I forbid them to carve stone or lay bricks, the chandlers, the weavers, and the goldsmiths will soon be at my gates asking that they be excluded from those trades as well.” She considered a moment. “Let it be written that henceforth only guild members shall be permitted to name themselves journeymen or masters … provided the guilds open their rolls to any freedman who can demonstrate the requisite skills.” (ADWD, Daenerys II)
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“A ditch, to bring water from the river to the fields. We mean to plant beans. The beanfields must have water.” (ADWD, Daenerys III)
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“I would gladly take as many olives as you cared to sell me. Olive oil as well.”
“I have none to offer. The slavers burned the trees.” Olives had been grown along the shores of Slaver's Bay for centuries; but the Meereenese had put their ancient groves to the torch as Dany's host advanced on them, leaving her to cross a blackened wasteland. “We are replanting, but it takes seven years before an olive tree begins to bear, and thirty years before it can truly be called productive.” (ADWD, Daenerys III)
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“Our stores are ample for the moment,” he reminded her, “and Your Grace has planted beans and grapes and wheat. Your Dothraki have harried the slavers from the hills and struck the shackles from their slaves. They are planting too, and will be bringing their crops to Meereen to market. And you will have the friendship of Lhazar.” (ADWD, Daenerys V)
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Learning is not inherently an interesting thing to write about. It's not an easy thing to write about. In the movies, they always handle it with a montage. Rocky can't run very fast. He can't catch the chicken. But then you do a montage, and you cut a lot of images together, and now only a minute later in the film, Rocky is really strong and he is catching the chicken. It’s a lot harder [in real life]. Sometimes in my own life, I wish I could play a montage of my life. I want to get in shape now. So let’s do a montage, and boom — I'll be fifty pounds lighter and in good shape, and it will only take me a minute with some montage of me lifting weights and running, shoving away the steak and having a salad. But of course in real life, you don't get to montage. You have to go through it day by day. And that has been interesting, you know. Jon Snow as Lord Commander. Dany as Queen, struggling with rule. So many books don't do that. There is a sense when you're writing something in high fantasy, you're in a dialogue with all the other high fantasy writers that have written. And there is always this presumption that if you are a good man, you will be a good king. [Like] Tolkien — in Return of the King, Aragorn comes back and becomes king, and then [we read that] "he ruled wisely for three hundred years. Okay, fine. It is easy to write that sentence, “He ruled wisely”. What does that mean, he ruled wisely? What were his tax policies? What did he do when two lords were making war on each other? Or barbarians were coming in from the North? What was his immigration policy? What about equal rights for Orcs? I mean did he just pursue a genocidal policy, "Let’s kill all these fucking Orcs who are still left over"? Or did he try to redeem them? You never actually see the nitty-gritty of ruling. I guess there is an element of fantasy readers that don't want to see that. I find that fascinating. Seeing someone like Dany actually trying to deal with the vestments of being a queen and getting factions and guilds and [managing the] economy. They burnt all the fields [in Meereen]. They've got nothing to import any more. They're not getting any money. I find this stuff interesting. And fortunately, enough of my readers who love the books do as well. —  George R. R. Martin
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How do you think Dany as foil to Virgin Mary?
The Virgin Mary is often pictured weeping and that imagery, a weeping woman, a weeping mother, tears of blood, crops up over and over through the series, and Dany cries a lot in AGOT, but Martin starts to insert lines about weeping, not weeping, that seem pertinent:
She should weep, she knew, yet her eyes were dry as ash. She had wept in her dream, and the tears had turned to steam on her cheeks. All the grief has been burned out of me, she told herself. (AGOT, Daenerys IX) "The blood of the dragon does not weep," she said testily. (ACOK, Daenerys III)
"Khaleesi," he said, taken aback by her fury, "the Unsullied are chosen as boys, and trained—" "I have heard all I care to of their training." Dany could feel tears welling in her eyes, sudden and unwanted. Her hand flashed up and cracked Ser Jorah hard across the face. It was either that, or cry. Mormont touched the cheek she'd slapped. "If I have displeased my queen—" (ASOS, Daenerys II) Yet the thought of seeing Jorah Mormont again made her feel as if she'd swallowed a spoonful of flies; angry, agitated, sick. She could almost feel them buzzing round her belly. I am the blood of the dragon. I must be strong. I must have fire in my eyes when I face them, not tears. "Tell Belwas to bring my knights," Dany commanded, before she could change her mind. "My good knights." (ASOS, Daenerys VI)
"Remove this liar from my sight," she commanded. I must not weep. I must not. If I weep I will forgive him. (ASOS, Daenerys, VI) "This one has been told that your servant Stalwart Shield sometimes gave coin to the women of the brothels to lie with him and hold him."The blood of the dragon does not weep. "Stalwart Shield," she said, dry-eyed. "That was his name?" (ADWD, Daenerys I)
Once, the grass whispered back, until you chained your dragons in the dark. "Drogon killed a little girl. Her name was … her name …" Dany could not recall the child's name. That made her so sad that she would have cried if all her tears had not been burned away. "I will never have a little girl. I was the Mother of Dragons." Aye, the grass said, but you turned against your children. (ADWD, Daenerys X)
Mercy, compassion, these are essential to Martin, and Dany has been going through a long process of steeling herself, convincing herself to have less. Not tears (mercy) fire. To support that interpretation, the exclamation, "Mother have mercy," and the song, "Gentle Mother, font of mercy" are worked into the series. It isn't just the imagery of a weeping woman or incidents of a character crying or not, but Martin telling us the representation of mercy is "the mother" (his take on the Virgin Mary), as she is the intercessor for her people. The fact that the dragon in Dany "burns" away her tears is a huge sign of where things are going, and yes, indicates she is being contrasted with an ideal Martin has included in the story.
There are also parallels between Cersei and Dany which indicate their children (Joffrey and Drogon) bring death and destruction to Westeros, not life, not peace. That's a direct contradiction to what the Virgin Mary's son is meant to do. In fact, Dany's son was what prompted Drogo to swear to invade Westeros, so Dany's children have always been surrounded with the death of others.
"The thunder of his hooves!" the others chorused. "As swift as the wind he rides, and behind him his khalasar covers the earth, men without number, with arakhs shining in their hands like blades of razor grass. Fierce as a storm this prince will be. His enemies will tremble before him, and their wives will weep tears of blood and rend their flesh in grief. The bells in his hair will sing his coming, and the milk men in the stone tents will fear his name." The old woman trembled and looked at Dany almost as if she were afraid. "The prince is riding, and he shall be the stallion who mounts the world." "The stallion who mounts the world!" the onlookers cried in echo, until the night rang to the sound of their voices. (AGOT, Daenerys V)
When Cat becomes Lady Stoneheart, I mentioned that she goes from the positive version of “mother,” the one pleading for peace instead of war --in her death scene, literally pleading for her son's life-- to the one who turns on humanity and wants vengeance. No longer the "intercessor", now the one who brings death. The fact that Dany has purposed to pursue war and conquest is a contrast to her, and seeing the transformation of Cat should alarm us for Dany who ended book one burning a person alive.
That's all I got, anon. I'll tag @minitafan in case she has some additional thoughts!
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OPERATION ICEBERG: THE TIER LIST
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THEORY:
Lemongate
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People's Choice! I swear to god, if you guys screw this up...
Under Consideration: These theories haven't garnered strong or extensive evidence, but they're worthy of discussion.
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50/50: These theories are complete toss-ups.
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Low Probability: While not impossible, these theories are unlikely based on the current evidence.
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Long Shot: These theories are largely speculative, based more on wishful thinking or obscure hints than on solid evidence.
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Debunked: These theories have been directly contradicted by the text, George R. R. Martin, or other authoritative sources.
[Tier list overview]
EVIDENCE:
What is Lemongate?
That was when they lived in Braavos, in the big house with the red door. Dany had her own room there, with a lemon tree outside her window. - Daenerys I, AGOT
The theory argues that lemons can't grow in Braavos, therefore something about Daenerys' childhood has yet to be revealed.
What could it be?
It depends on who you ask. The problem with this theory is that it serves as the foundation for many other theories, making it extremely difficult to cover.
The possibility that Daenerys never actually lived in Braavos has led to various speculations, including but not limited to the following:
The big house with the red door was in Dorne.
Daenerys Targaryen isn't really Daenerys Targaryen, and has false memories of her childhood with Viserys Targaryen.
Daenerys is the daughter of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark.
Daenerys is the daughter of Ned Stark and Ashara Dayne.
And that's just scratching the surface.
For the sake of my sanity, we won't delve into all that nonsense. Instead, we'll focus solely on the question of whether lemons can grow in Braavos and, if not, what the hell is going on.
Okay, do lemons grow in Braavos?
Maybe? Daenerys seems to think so.
That was when they lived in Braavos, in the big house with the red door. Dany had her own room there, with a lemon tree outside her window. - Daenerys I, AGOT
But there's some issues.
For starters, trees don't really grow in Braavos.
Beyond the harbor she glimpsed streets of grey stone houses, built so close they leaned one upon the other. To Arya's eyes they were queer-looking, four and five stories tall and very skinny, with sharp-peaked tile roofs like pointed hats. She saw no thatch, and only a few timbered houses of the sort she knew in Westeros. They have no trees, she realized. Braavos is all stone, a grey city in a green sea. - Arya I, AFFC
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The stony maze of islands and canals that was Braavos, devoid of grass and trees and teeming with strangers who spoke to her in words she could not understand, frightened her so badly that she lost the map and soon herself. - Samwell III, AFFC
Braavos is built on a lagoon at the northwestern end of Essos.
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(map!)
It is often described as foggy, with a damp, cool, maritime climate. It draws significant inspiration from the city of Venice, Italy.
The day looked to be a rare one, crisp and clear and bright. Braavos only had three kinds of weather; fog was bad, rain was worse, and freezing rain was worst. But every so often would come a morning when the dawn broke pink and blue and the air was sharp and salty. Those were the days that Cat loved best. - Cat of the Canals, AFFC
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"Winter is nigh upon us. The day I left Braavos, there was ice on the canals." - Jon IX, ADWD
It's not an ideal climate for growing lemons, as the text humorously notes.
"Seven hells, this place is damp," she heard her guard complain. "I'm chilled to the bones. Where are the bloody orange trees? I always heard there were orange trees in the Free Cities. Lemons and limes. Pomegranates. Hot peppers, warm nights, girls with bare bellies. Where are the bare-bellied girls, I ask you?" "Down in Lys, and Myr, and Old Volantis," the other guard replied. He was an older man, big-bellied and grizzled. "I went to Lys with Lord Tywin once, when he was Hand to Aerys. Braavos is north of King's Landing, fool. Can't you read a bloody map?" - Mercy, TWOW
It's nothing like Dorne, a more suitable place for a lemon tree.
Anguy shuffled his feet. "We were thinking we might eat it, Sharna. With lemons. If you had some." "Lemons. And where would we get lemons? Does this look like Dorne to you, you freckled fool? Why don't you hop out back to the lemon trees and pick us a bushel, and some nice olives and pomegranates too." - Arya II, ASOS
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There children frolicked naked in the sun, music played in tiled courtyards, and the air was sharp with the smell of lemons and blood oranges. - The Captain of the Guards, AFFC
And to the author's credit, he appears to fully understand the conditions under which lemon trees can and cannot thrive.
Sweetrobin loved lemon cakes too, but only after she told him that they were her favorites. The cake had required every lemon in the Vale, but Petyr had promised that he would send to Dorne for more. - Alayne I, TWOW
So you can see why it's a bit puzzling.
Has anyone ever thought to simply ask George about it?
Of course. If you had the opportunity to ask George R. R. Martin anything, why wouldn't you waste your moment on something as stupid as this?
George was asked about the discrepancy, and surprisingly, he was uncharacteristically forthcoming. He acknowledged that it's very perceptive to pick up on a detail like that and playfully hinted that it points to something else.
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Dany remembers a lemon tree outside the house with the red door in Braavos, but citrus trees shouldn't really grow in Braavos's cold, foggy climate. Is this discrepency significant? Does it point to future revelations about Dany's past? Thank you so much. Very perceptive of you. Yes, it does point to . . . well, that would be telling. - George R. R. Martin
In that case, is Lemongate confirmed to be real?
No, not exactly.
Despite what he said, there's really no hints in the text concerning any secrecy around Daenerys' upbringing.
Ser Willem Darry was in Braavos, a fact that could be confirmed by several people.
"It is a secret pact," Dany said, "made in Braavos when I was just a little girl. Ser Willem Darry signed for us, the man who spirited my brother and myself away from Dragonstone before the Usurper's men could take us. Prince Oberyn Martell signed for Dorne, with the Sealord of Braavos as witness." She handed the parchment to Ser Barristan, so he might read it for himself. - Daenerys VII, ADWD
And while trees are rare in Braavos, they do grow in the gardens of the wealthy, where you'd expect Daenerys to be. It's not out of the question that a lemon tree could grow there. Lemon trees can also grow in Venice, Italy.
Trees did not grow on Braavos, save in the courts and gardens of the mighty. - Samwell III, AFFC
Compare one questionable lemon tree to how the author handles Jon Snow's parentage, and you can see why the theory has some issues.
Then what the hell is going on?
I believe one of three possibilities exists.
POSSIBILITY #1
Daenerys lived in a nice big house in Braavos with Ser Willem Darry, and there was a lemon tree outside her window. Nothing weird is happening.
POSSIBILITY #2
We have another instance of an unreliable narrator, who is rewriting a past event that never existed.
Daenerys is chasing a red door and a lemon tree that were never truly there, and she'll never reach her destination. It's a commentary on the futility of her entire objective.
POSSIBILITY #3*
(*also known as the real reason)
At the last minute, George changed the location of the big house with the red door from Tyrosh to Braavos, resulting in a humorous inconsistency in the story.
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Yes, it's really that simple.
Blood of the Dragon was a novella published in the July 1996 issue of Asimov's Science Fiction magazine. It is based on the Daenerys chapters from A Game of Thrones and was released before the book itself.
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Here's an excerpt:
That was when they had lived in Tyrosh, in the big house with the red door. Dany had slept in her own room there, with a lemon tree outside her window. After Ser Willem had died, the servants had stolen what little money they had left, and soon after they had been put out of the big house. Dany had cried when the red door closed behind them forever. They had wandered since then, from Tyrosh to Myr, from Myr to Braavos, and on to Qohor and Volantis and Lys, never staying long in any one place.
Whoops! Something's different.
The big house with the red door originally being in Tyrosh isn't surprising, given that ✨ we know ✨ Daenerys speaks with a Tyroshi accent.
The merchant must have taken her for Dothraki, with her clothes and her oiled hair and sun-browned skin. When she spoke, he gaped at her in astonishment. "My lady, you are … Tyroshi? Can it be so?" "My speech may be Tyroshi, and my garb Dothraki, but I am of Westeros, of the Sunset Kingdoms," Dany told him. - Daenerys VI, AGOT
You'd have to spend many of your formative younger years in Tyrosh for that to be the case.
As Irri and Jhiqui helped her from her litter, she sniffed, and recognized the sharp odors of garlic and pepper, scents that reminded Dany of days long gone in the alleys of Tyrosh and Myr and brought a fond smile to her face. - Daenerys VI, AGOT
Amusingly, this now-deleted part of her history was somewhat alluded to when her mirrored image twin from Tyrosh was introduced to the story.
The Tyroshi sellsword was not a good man, no one needed to tell her that. - Daenerys V, ASOS
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"Is it Daario? What's happened?" In her dream they had been man and wife, simple folk who lived a simple life in a tall stone house with a red door. - Daenerys II, ADWD
Many inconsistencies and discrepancies are present throughout the series, but they are especially noticeable in A Game of Thrones.
Lemons grow in Tyrosh, but they don't typically grow in Braavos. It's a detail the author overlooked when making the simple change, and I guarantee you this is him poking fun at himself (and the Lemongaters) for the error:
"Seven hells, this place is damp," she heard her guard complain. "I'm chilled to the bones. Where are the bloody orange trees? I always heard there were orange trees in the Free Cities. Lemons and limes. Pomegranates. Hot peppers, warm nights, girls with bare bellies. Where are the bare-bellied girls, I ask you?" "Down in Lys, and Myr, and Old Volantis," the other guard replied. He was an older man, big-bellied and grizzled. "I went to Lys with Lord Tywin once, when he was Hand to Aerys. Braavos is north of King's Landing, fool. Can't you read a bloody map?" - Mercy, TWOW
So, we can probably put it to rest.
But George himself said it was pointing to something??
Aww, adorable.
If you've been paying attention to George R. R. Martin for any amount of time, you should realize that if there were something truly significant about lemon trees not growing in Braavos as part of a secret plot yet to be revealed, there's no way in hell he would ever answer that question in that manner on LiveJournal.
Allow me to finish his sentence for him,
Dany remembers a lemon tree outside the house with the red door in Braavos, but citrus trees shouldn't really grow in Braavos's cold, foggy climate. Is this discrepency significant? Does it point to future revelations about Dany's past? Thank you so much. Very perceptive of you. Yes, it does point to . . . [my changing the story and overlooking a minor detail, like an idiot.]
Fine, but why did he switch it from Tyrosh to Braavos?
I don't know why, but you should stop overthinking this, and we should move on.
(because of arya.)
STUMPY'S THOUGHTS:
I'd like to think Lemongate has been debunked, but I'll leave it to the people to render their verdict.
Does Lemongate amount to nothing? Absolutely. Do lemons grow in Braavos? Not really. Is the house with the red door a symbol of an idealized past she'll never be able to replicate in her future? I don't doubt it.
Many things can be true here, but one thing that's not is that she lived in Dorne, and Lyanna Stark is her mother.
VOTE:
NEXT THEORY:
Oberyn poisoned Tywin
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acewithapencil · 2 years
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Dany Month Day 19
“The battle was followed by the day's first folly, a tilt between a pair of jousting dwarfs, presented by one of the Yunkish lords that Hizdahr had invited to the games. One rode a hound, the other a sow. Their wooden armor had been freshly painted, so one bore the stag of the usurper Robert Baratheon, the other the golden lion of House Lannister. That was for her sake, plainly. Their antics soon had Belwas snorting laughter, though Dany's smile was faint and forced. When the dwarf in red tumbled from the saddle and began to chase his sow across the sands, whilst the dwarf on the dog galloped after him, whapping at his buttocks with a wooden sword, she said, ‘This is sweet and silly, but …’
‘Be patient, my sweet,’ said Hizdahr. ‘They are about to loose the lions.’
Daenerys gave him a quizzical look. ‘Lions?’
‘Three of them. The dwarfs will not expect them.’
She frowned. ‘The dwarfs have wooden swords. Wooden armor. How do you expect them to fight lions?’
‘Badly,’ said Hizdahr, ‘though perhaps they will surprise us. More like they will shriek and run about and try to climb out of the pit. That is what makes this a folly.’
Dany was not pleased. ‘I forbid it.’
‘Gentle queen. You do not want to disappoint your people.’
‘You swore to me that the fighters would be grown men who had freely consented to risk their lives for gold and honor. These dwarfs did not consent to battle lions with wooden swords. You will stop it. Now.’” -ADWD, Daenerys IX
Dany saving Penny and Tyrion for @hereforperioddrama! I love this moment ❤️
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jackoshadows · 1 year
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Other than Stannis Baratheon and maybe various Starks, are there any nobles in particular who would likewise value Davos Seaworth’s brand of council?
I think the key five POV nobles (including one bastard) would value Davos Seaworth as a councillor/adviser other than Stannis Baratheon:
Jon Snow: Looks beyond class and gender to the person and what they are capable of doing. Shares similarities with Stannis Baratheon in terms of how to tackle the Freefolk and the threat of the Others - after Stannis learns from Davos' advice to him.
I am the shield that guards the realms of men. Those are the words. So tell me, my lord��what are these wildlings, if not men?” - Jon XI ADwD
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Daenerys Targaryen: Another leader who looks beyond class and gender and values the person. She would most definitely appreciate Davos' viewpoint of the smallfolk and being about the greater good.
Stannis learned about the greater good from Davos. On the other hand, Dany herself espouses similar views when she halts the campaign for the Iron Throne to stay in Meereen and help her people.
“Lord Seaworth is a man of humble birth, but he reminded me of my duty, when all I could think of was my rights. I had the cart before the horse, Davos said. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne.” - Jon IX, ASoS
“I was alone for a long time, Jorah. All alone but for my brother. I was such a small scared thing. Viserys should have protected me, but instead he hurt me and scared me worse. He shouldn’t have done that. He wasn’t just my brother, he was my king. Why do the gods make kings and queens, if not to protect the ones who can’t protect themselves?”  -  Daenerys III ASOS
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Arya Stark: The people's princess. A lot of her childhood is spend mingling with Winterfell's smallfolk, her arc involves living with the smallfolk and sharing their trials and tribulations. She would value the advice Davos gives her.
Tyrion Lannister: Tyrion is smart and ready to use trustworthy people and information to help in his goals and ambitions. He would definitely listen to Davos.
Bran Stark: Is young and also able to look beyond class and gender and would be appreciative of Davos. He does pushback a little when Maester Luwen or Ser Rodrik tell him things that he thinks is unfair.
Most definitely the likes of Samwell Tarly and Brienne of Tarth. Maybe for Arianne Martell - I can see her disagreeing with Davos in terms of policy, not because he belongs to the Smallfolk.
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baelontargaryen · 1 year
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Wolves never cry, she reminded herself again.
— Arya IX, ASOS
The dragon does not weep. She was bleeding, but it was only woman’s blood.
— Daenerys X, ADWD
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aegor-bamfsteel · 2 years
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“He knew it too; the grey face, the hollow eyes, the limp. "The shadows have touched you too, Ser Jorah," she told him.” —AGOT, Daenerys IX
“Grey-faced Lord Gyles Rosby was coughing into a square of pink silk.” —ACOK, Sansa I
“[Varamyr] The skinchanger was grey-faced, round-shouldered, and bald, a mouse of a man with a wolfling's eyes.” —ASOS, Jon X
“The queen had expected to hear from Lord Gyles as well, but instead Grand Maester Pycelle appeared, grey-faced and apologetic, to tell her that Rosby was too weak to leave his bed.” —AFFC, Cersei VIII
“Septon Cellador rose grey-faced and sweating, Othell Yarwyck stiffly, Bowen Marsh tight-lipped and pale.” —ADWD, Jon VIII
Thinking about calling the ASOIAF-related anons who send hate mail by the names of some unflattering greyfaced characters
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kellyvela · 2 years
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"His sister liked to think of herself as Lord Tywin with teats, but she was wrong."- Jaime(AFFC II). "She is the widow of a Dothraki khal, a mother of dragons and sacker of cities, Aegon the Conqueror with teats."- Tyrion(ADWD VII). Another parallel between Cersei and Dany.
That’s an anti-parallel. Cersei compares herself to Tywin (which, to those around her, is a joke), while Dany is compared to Aegon by others.
Hello Anon:
That's not from Cersei's POV, it's from Jaime's POV, those are his thoughts. Jaime thinks that's what Cersei thinks of herself:
"I govern the realm."
Seven save us all, you do. His sister liked to think of herself as Lord Tywin with teats, but she was wrong. Their father had been as relentless and implacable as a glacier, where Cersei was all wildfire, especially when thwarted. She had been giddy as a maiden when she learned that Stannis had abandoned Dragonstone, certain that he had finally given up the fight and sailed away to exile. When word came down from the north that he had turned up again at the Wall, her fury had been fearful to behold. She does not lack for wits, but she has no judgment, and no patience. "You need a strong Hand to help you."
—A Feast for Crows - Jaime II
So, it is a parallel.
But in any case, we do know who is the one always associating herself with Aegon the Conqueror:
I am blood of the dragon, she told herself. I am Daenerys Stormborn, Princess of Dragonstone, of the blood and seed of Aegon the Conqueror.
—A Game of Thrones - Daenerys II
She lifted her head. "And I am Daenerys Stormborn, Daenerys of House Targaryen, of the blood of Aegon the Conqueror and Maegor the Cruel and old Valyria before them. I am the dragon's daughter, and I swear to you, these men will die screaming.
—A Game of Thrones - Daenerys IX
"Remind your Good Master of who I am. Remind him that I am Daenerys Stormborn, Mother of Dragons, the Unburnt, trueborn queen of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. My blood is the blood of Aegon the Conqueror, and of old Valyria before him."
—A Storm of Swords - Daenerys II
Do you want more Cersei/Dany parallels??? I'm going to give you more!
Tyrion also compares Cersei with one of the ancestors that Dany prides to be associated with:
Cersei is as gentle as King Maegor, as selfless as Aegon the Unworthy, as wise as Mad Aerys. She never forgets a slight, real or imagined. She takes caution for cowardice and dissent for defiance. And she is greedy. Greedy for power, for honor, for love.
—A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion VI
So, Dany is proud to share blood with Maegor the Cruel, and Tyrion compares Cersei with Maegor as well... Do you know who else is compared with Maegor?
The girl that they once cheered as the Realm’s Delight had grown into a grasping and vindictive woman, men said, a queen as cruel as any king before her. One wit named Rhaenyra “King Maegor with teats,” and for a hundred years thereafter “Maegor’s Teats” was a common curse amongst Kingslanders. —Fire & Blood
Yes! Rhaenyra Targaryen, who is part Daenerys and part Cersei.
Don't you love how compelling George's writing is?
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