#csem

[5typesoftrash]

friendly reminder that it's not child sexual exploitation material if no children are being exploited x

#csem cw #csem #proship #pro ship #pro-ship #pro shipping #shipcourse #proshippers please interact #proshipper safe #proshippers are valid #anti anti #ccs.txt

[unfortunatelyaugust]

reminder that you were a child. its not your fault, even if it seems like it might be.

#csam survivor #csa vent #nccsa vent #csa survivor #cocsa survivor #csem #nccocsa #child abuse #physical abuse #mental abuse #emotional abuse #child neglect

[copperbadge]

Quick note, apologies in advance for the vagueness....

Anon who sent me the ask about “joining the group of anons appreciating your takes” asking about the AO3 volunteer and CSEM situation -- I appreciate the faith in me, and I think you were sincerely looking for information and analysis. That said, I was concerned the language in the ask could be read as a bit inflammatory, so rather than reply directly I’m posting independently. 

For those who aren’t familiar with the situation, OTW has released a statement on it here, responding to Rahaeli/Synedochic/Denise’s statements here. (I’d link to the specific tweets but I don’t know how to do that on Twitter, and they’re not difficult to find.) Other people are speaking about it as well but that gets real rabbit-hole real quickly and I wouldn’t know how to curate those properly. 

In any case, I don’t think I’m qualified to discuss this in detail or offer an opinion. When I speak on issues related to AO3, I try to confine it to things I have working knowledge of, which tend to be in the nonprofit fundraising space. I don’t have the legal experience to speak intelligently on this one, and I don’t have a ton of knowledge about what went down, as I don’t know anyone involved very well. That said, I do have ties to some people and groups involved (on both sides) in the sense of “negative encounters in the past” which also complicates matters. There’s a contingent of fandom which enjoys reading my participation as part of a sinister plot of some kind; I suppose it’s more interesting than me just being an awkward dipshit with a history of poor decision-making. Either way, it makes it dicey to speak to wanks in fandom without being very measured. 

Certainly while I’m happy to defend AO3 when I have the knowledge to do so and believe they’re in the right, I also know the organization isn’t perfect and there have been volunteer/labor issues in the past, so I would recommend hearing all sides in this case with an open mind but a critical eye. I unfortunately just...can’t speak to this one in the confidence I’ll do more good than harm. 

ETA: @swords-n-spindles added a useful resource in comments, a burner Tumblr with a timeline and referenced writeup that looks super helpful.

#fandom #fandom wank #csem

[a-polite-melody]

I just saw a take that really put in perspective how it is the people screaming about AO3 "hosting child porn" view the problems surrounding CSEM.

It really seems like the one of the biggest issues that these people have with any and all CP is that pedophiles "can get off to it". "Pedophiles getting off" is something that is a large focus for these sorts of people.

And, personally, that is the thing that matters the least in these discussions? Whether or not someone is "getting off"—I mean.

The problem with actual CSEM is the abuse and continued abuse of real children caused by the filming/photographing and subsequent sharing of those films/photos. If, in being shared, no one happened to "get off" to the images, that isn't any better. There isn't any less damage done than if the people who viewed it did "get off", because the distribution is the thing that furthers that abuse, not the "getting off" part. The victim is harmed just as much either way, because they have no way of knowing how that material is being used beyond it being shared. If someone happened to not "get off" to the CSEM that involved them, that distribution doesn't do them any less harm.

And I think this also makes it make sense why these types of people will SHARE instances of what they call "CP art/written CP". They're not "getting off" to it, so their view of it isn't a "bad view". Meanwhile, if the image or writing is of a real, actual child, whether or not they're getting off to it doesn't matter, their furthering the distribution by viewing and/or sharing is what is doing that harm. And if the image or writing is of a fictional child portrayed by pixels and not a real child actor, their viewing isn't any more or less benign than someone "getting off" to it because there is no real child being harmed by any distribution in the first place.

It speaks to a level of sex negativity which views orgasm something uniquely damaging. Viewing images or writing of fiction is viewed as worse if you orgasm to it than if you do it to go "eeewwwww" with your friends. Accessing real CSEM is viewed as more harmful if there's an orgasm involved, even though accessing it and not "getting off" to it does the same level of damage to the victim.

It really Does Not Matter if pedos are "getting off". What matters is whether a victim is being further damaged.

"But they're still getting off to kids, even if they're fictional that's wrong!"

That's the least important part of this whole equation. The focus is on the thing that is sexual in the moment, rather than on the actual harm. I care way more about people actually being harmed than whether or not someone is being moral. Because I don't like it either, but I'm not going to put it on the same level as if they were doing real harm to an actual child. I can block them and move on with my life knowing that no children are being harmed, even if I think it's disgusting and wrong. That's very different than if real children are being harmed.

#my post #csem #cp #child abuse

[sad-cinnamongirl]

ⁱ ʷᵃˢⁿ'ᵗ ᵃ ᵖᵒʳⁿ ˢᵗᵃʳ ⁱ ʷᵃˢⁿ'ᵗ ᵃ ˢᵉˣʸ ᵐᵒᵈᵉˡ ⁱ ʷᵃˢ ᵃ ᶜʰⁱˡᵈ

#csa survivor #csa vent #csem #csem victim #csem vent #tw csem #csem survivor

[prolaroids]

5 reasons to not say "child porn" or any of its variations:

It implies that CSEM production, and CSA overall, is based on attraction.

It implies that CSEM production has an element of consent.

It implies that CSEM production is transactional.

It implies that CSEM survivors are in the same social category as "porn star" stereotypes.

It has a reductive tone, esp when looking at the more informal variations.

CSEM (child sexual exploitation materials) or CSAM (child sexual abuse materials) are appropriate terms. It makes me really happy to see them being used, and I know I'm not the only one. If you use them, thank you.

#csem #csem survivor #csam #cp

[unwelcome-ozian]

Could you help me find articles on CSEM production rings from North Carolina? I’m a victim, and I’ve always wanted to know if my abusers were ever caught.

This question doesn’t provide me with enough information to assist you.

Here are a couple of  suggestions you could do that may provide you with information you are looking for:

Search the names of the people involved if you recall them.

Search articles in the county, town, city, where the abuse occurred.

Take care,

Oz

#answers to questions #North Carolina #CSEM

[socialjusticefail]

This piece talks about the bad handling TikTok is doing with CSEM. I hope someone goes to jail for mishandling this.

#commentary on tiktok #criticism of tiktok #commentary on content moderation #csem #commentary on mishandling csem