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hinumay · 8 months
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I was trying to sketch locke lamora but WHYY does he feel like Taryon Darlington instead.. ahhh xD maybe Locke's just cosplaying Tary to con Vox Machina
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talkingtotheclouds · 1 year
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Is Camorr = Ketterdam?
Locke is definitely not Kaz, but still…
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deadhawke · 7 months
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THEY WAY I FUCKING SHOUTED WHEN JASPER SAID HIS CHARACTER IS A LOCKE LAMORA REFERENCE
OFFICIALLY MY NEW FAVORITE FUCKING PERSON HELL YES LOCKE LAMORA IS ALSO MY FAVORITE
AND PLEASE GOD LET THAT GIVE A SPIKE IN MORE PEOPLE READING THE BOOK IM BEGGING
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achillecutalo · 1 year
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2021 la europarlamentare dem mi viene a trovare per portarmi novità dall'Italia
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docholligay · 2 months
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The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch
Nonspoilery: This is a super fun read that is very much in keeping with how I like my fantasy. I wish it were slightly more on the con man side, but I recognize that those are very difficult to write because one needs to actually be clever enough to come up with the insanely clever plan that unfolds, and, you know what, I'm not there either. But it absolutely is a fun crimey fantasy novel, well written that expects you can actually follow a line of description and maybe even look up a big word, that tries very hard not to bore you with needing to refer to a glossary or map.
I will say, and I'll talk about this more below: There are basically no women in this novel. it's a little disappointing. I still overall think it's worth it if you like this sort of thing though.
SPOILERS BELOW:
THIS is the kind of thing pitchless draw was made for. You could not have talked me into reading this book. Unless you possess an incredible skill--I'm not sure *I* could have talked me into reading this book, and supposedly no one knows me better.
But I did really enjoy myself. This is a flat out FUN novel, that doesn't mind being long but never feels long. I LOVED the long bits of description in this book, I BEG for flavor in some many modern novels that strip away anything that isn't an immediate moving of the ball. Actually, one of the things I would say that's not a criticism so much as a preference, is that I feel like this book, and probably this writer, remembering his short story from Rogues, is more plot-driven than character driven. I am a girl who loves a really interior novel, and this isn't that, but it did not stop me from having a GREAT time. It's a romp.
I like Locke, and his whole backstory. I wish he were a woman. Specifically, I would love to see a femme con artist, second coming of Minako Aino, Becky Sharp ass bitch. THAT would be my dream for Locke Lamora. And I know my friends who have read this book all want butch Locke and I love that for you, and I know y'all have known me long enough to know I love a butch, but I deserve a treat as well, and I LOVE con artists, and goddamnit, if I could change one thing about this novel, Locke Lamora would be a femme lesbian and I would change NOTHING else. You wouldn't even have to. One fo the great things about Lynch not being a real interior writer is literally any of the mains could be a woman and it would change nothing.
This does segue into the big problem here--there's no women in this novel. It's a 700 page book and I could condense the lines said by women into like two or three pages. I actually DO get it. I think we're reaping a little bit of what we've sown, as a community, with the requirement for perfection in our representation that leads to very boring and safe choices. Everyone is a man. We're only swarthy at best. Can't be criticized for bad identity writing if you don't write them at all! ANd this isn't me being salty, I get how that happens, I have also sometimes fallen into making any character of identity boring as fuck or not writing them at all to avoid any criticism. And no one cares about ME, I'm not a best seller. I do think, maybe, people will get better about this. Pendulums and all. I miss the awkward, good faith 90s where you had the United Colors of Benetton and one character who randomly celebrated Hanukkah. We'll see.
ANYHOW NOT RELEVANT. But I do find it irritating that because of this, we don't see women in this huge story at all. None of the gang, even though it would have been easy as fuck to make, say, Bug a girl. Even doing something like making Nazca Barsavi the actual heir apparent, and to have her marrying Locke because she knows he won't try to be Capa, and she'll let him do whatever the fuck he wants, can play the henpecked husband while being the Thorn of Camorr, could be really fun and would do more for Nazca and also play up their friendship. It could make her death mean a lot more, if they were running their own little Barsavi con.
Anyhow, the really fantastic behind the scenes worldbuilding was how I wish more fantasy novels did it. It didn't often try to explain things to me, it spoke as if I mostly understood them, or had cahracters say them in ways that made sense to the story (In this capacity, Lukas Fehrwright is fucking BRILLIANT as Someone That Must Have Camorr Explained). So I didn't feel like I was being sat down and told the history of a place I barely know, while having stupid fucking vocabulary words thrown at me. We never define any physik or magic beyond what needs be done because fuck you that's why. I love it. Thank you for not telling me what alchemical botany can or can't do. Thank you for dropping literally only what I need to kjnow about wraithstone into the plot. You have a crown in heaven.
Or I know I said I wish it would have been more con-ny and less "kill the new mob boss" at the end there, but oh my fuck, how much did I love the whole job at the counting house. I SCREAMED. It was so good, I had no clue where it was going the whole time and I would never have gotten there, but I LOVED it. What a great time.
One...weakness, for me, I guess I'll say, is that lack of interiority makes it hard to really feel the weight of some things. We don't get enough about Galdo, Calo, or Bug to feel anything for them, and I knew Bug was dead from the time he showed up. Actually, I thought we were going to kill jean Tannen, because that was the only relationship REALLY laden with emotional weight in the book. Didn't bother me enough to not recommend the book, as I'm mostly recommending it on fun, but I did notice.
ANYWAY, uh...any specific questions I'm happy to take!
Unfortunately, this means that @verbforverb nabbed me again. So, I had a great time reading the book but at what cost
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Ok sorry for all the Locke Lamora posting but one of the funniest things to me is that Camorr is this dark gritty city with regular fights to the death and public executions and you’re like okay that’s wack but I guess that’s just how it is in this world
And then book two is set in a different city and everyone’s like yeah Camorr’s just fucking insane
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bookfirstlinetourney · 10 months
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Round 1
At the height of the long wet summer of the Seventy-seventh Year of Sendovani, the Thiefmaker of Camorr paid a sudden and unannounced visit to the Eyeless Priest at the Temple of Perelandro, desperately hoping to sell him the Lamora boy.
-The Lies of Locke Lamora, Scott Lynch
Today he would become a god. His mother had told him so.
-Black Sun, Rebecca Roanhorse
“Rejoice, Wei Wuxian is dead!”
-The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation/Mo Dao Zu Shi, Mo Xiang Tong Xiu
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lady-bastard · 7 months
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“My name,” said Locke Lamora, “is Lukas Fehrwight. “I am wearing clothes that will be full of sweat in several minutes. I am dumb enough to walk around Camorr without a blade of any sort. Also,” he said with a hint of ponderous regret, “I am entirely fictional.”
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2ghosts · 1 year
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Im guilty of stealing the Lies if Locke Lamora in HS from my school Library 😭 and my ass didnt even read it. Can you briefly say what you like about it so maybe i can motivate myself to finally read it? I think i just didn't understand what kind of story it was at the time since someone else had recommended it to me (and slipped it into my backpack after I got curious about it. Hence the stealing)
i loved the story and the way it was told, the book keeps jumping between the present and the past AND IT WORKS SO WELL revealing the characters past and these little details that sometimes didnt matter all that much but just made things more fun (for example explaining why they used one of their fake names so often). definitely my favourite thing!! but also the characters are amazing and even side characters are complex and well written and have their own little schemes and it's really great (nothing ever goes well for the greatest thief in camorr 😔) please give it a go!!
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tobias-fell · 2 years
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im too lazy to go back and find the number for book recs for the ask game but this is me asking for heist book recs hi hello
hell yeah. i have instantly forgotten everything i've ever read btw but here's what my brain will recall
Six of Crows, Leigh Bardugo
six criminals band together to break into the Ice Court (like breaking into the pentagon) and steal the creator of jurda parem, a drug that lets Grisha's (witches/magicians) power go full-throttle and become super dangerous. I love it soooo much, it's the first book in a duology, and it's just Neat, and i would die for Inej.
Little Thieves, Margaret Owen
This one is both a heist story and the consequences of a heist story. It has good quality heisting in it!! Summary, stolen from goodreads:
Vanja leads a lonely but lucrative double life as faux princess and jewel thief, charming nobility while emptying their coffers to fund her great escape. Then, one heist away from freedom, Vanja crosses the wrong god and is cursed to an untimely end: turning into jewels, stone by stone, for her greed.
Vanja has just two weeks to figure out how to break her curse and make her getaway. And with a feral guardian half-god, Princess Gisele's sinister fiancé, and an overeager junior detective on Vanja's tail, she'll have to pull the biggest grift yet to save her own life.
The Lies of Locke Lamora, Scott Lynch
tbh i wasn't sure if it counted, i thought it might, but it's on some goodreads heist books lists. so. I will admit that the heisting in this one is more in the first and mostly takes the form of Locke being a sly con artist bastard toward rich people, but like. I love this book. it goes on the list. (Summary also yoinked from GR.)
An orphan’s life is harsh—and often short—in the mysterious island city of Camorr. But young Locke Lamora dodges death and slavery, becoming a thief under the tutelage of a gifted con artist. As leader of the band of light-fingered brothers known as the Gentleman Bastards, Locke is soon infamous, fooling even the underworld’s most feared ruler. But in the shadows lurks someone still more ambitious and deadly. Faced with a bloody coup that threatens to destroy everyone and everything that holds meaning in his mercenary life, Locke vows to beat the enemy at his own brutal game—or die trying.
The Gilded Wolves, Roshani Chokshi
my brain melts when i think about it (/pos, dw) so i'll just put this here:
It's 1889. The city is on the cusp of industry and power, and the Exposition Universelle has breathed new life into the streets and dredged up ancient secrets. Here, no one keeps tabs on dark truths better than treasure-hunter and wealthy hotelier Séverin Montagnet-Alarie. When the elite, ever-powerful Order of Babel coerces him to help them on a mission, Séverin is offered a treasure that he never imagined: his true inheritance.
To hunt down the ancient artifact the Order seeks, Séverin calls upon a band of unlikely experts. Together, they will join Séverin as he explores the dark, glittering heart of Paris. What they find might change the course of history--but only if they can stay alive.
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how did you like the Lies of Locke Lamora? i’ve been thinking about picking it up
I LOVE IT!!!!!!! It was so good!!! It gave me Six of Crows vibes, but more on the con side than the heist side. Also, a group of goofy disasters pissing off rich people. I loved basically everything about it, and I can't wait to read the rest of the series! I'm very much in love with Locke and Jean, and honestly all of the Gentlemen Bastards. (Which I still hold is the best fucking name for a group of conmen. Or just anyone, actually.)
Locke is an idiot and a genius at the same time and I love him dearly. He also have a Very Bad No Good Few Days and I love when that happens. And he gets the shit beat out of him a few times, hehehe.
And Jean!!! I love him. He would do anything for Locke. (And Locke for him, I think.) He's also the Common Sense Holder of the group, at least to a certain point.
The worldbuilding is fascinating, and I'm fascinated by the Elderglass that's all over Camorr. I want to know what built it, and what scared those things away.
And Father Chains is a perfect mentor character. I love him a lot. (Also Vorchenza is a fucking badass and I love her.)
Also, I'm excited to find out who the fuck Sabetha is.
Anyways, I highly recommend that you read it!! I had a lot of fun with it.
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ivycoveredbooks · 2 years
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So I have been reading The Lies of Locke Lamora and I have been loving it! The writing style and in particular the description of Camorr, the place where they live, has enchanted me. Locke himself is a fascinating character beyond that the way that you get to see not only current Locke, but young Locke in the interludes is amazing. I think the reason the interludes appeal to me so much is that I love learning about where characters come from and this gives me that. I am a lover of prologues and epilouges. When I love characters I want as much information as possible and with Scott Lynch's interludes, I get that times 10 and it is everything I could ask for and more. Anyway, I am only 200 pages through which is the start of part two I will update you when I reach the beginning of part three.
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achillecutalo · 1 year
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Mi chiamo Achille Cutolo sono napoletano da 15 anni sono latitante alle Maldive per camorra ma nessuno mi cerca per convenienza spesso vengono a trovarmi senza problemi
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thebookwormslair · 10 months
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Welcome, fellow book lovers, to an exploration of the dark realms where fantasy and shadows intertwine. Dark fantasy, a genre that combines elements of fantasy, horror, and mystery, offers a captivating and immersive reading experience. If you're ready to embark on a thrilling journey into the depths of darkness, we have curated a collection of must-read dark fantasy books that will transport you to extraordinary realms and leave you craving more.
"The Poppy War" by R.F. Kuang:
Prepare to be enthralled by this dark and gritty tale inspired by Chinese history. "The Poppy War" follows the journey of Rin, a war orphan with a burning desire for vengeance and the power to wield dangerous magic. R.F. Kuang's masterful storytelling weaves together political intrigue, devastating warfare, and complex characters, creating an unforgettable reading experience.
"The Fifth Season" by N.K. Jemisin:
In a world wracked by cataclysmic events, Jemisin introduces readers to a land where apocalyptic forces shape the lives of its inhabitants. "The Fifth Season" is a beautifully written and immersive tale that follows three interconnected narratives, exploring themes of oppression, survival, and the power of the earth itself. Prepare to be mesmerized by Jemisin's rich world-building and breathtaking prose.
"The Name of the Wind" by Patrick Rothfuss:
Enter the mesmerizing world of Kvothe, a legendary hero with a troubled past. "The Name of the Wind" is a dark and atmospheric tale of magic, music, and mysteries. Rothfuss's lyrical prose and meticulous attention to detail create a rich and immersive reading experience that will captivate fantasy enthusiasts and leave them eagerly awaiting the next installment in the series.
"The City of Brass" by S.A. Chakraborty:
Dive into a vibrant and enchanting world inspired by Middle Eastern folklore in "The City of Brass." This enthralling debut novel introduces readers to Nahri, a con artist with hidden magical abilities, and Dara, a djinn warrior with a mysterious past. S.A. Chakraborty weaves together intricate world-building, political intrigue, and captivating characters to create a spellbinding tale that will leave you yearning for more.
"The Lies of Locke Lamora" by Scott Lynch:
Join the daring thief and con artist Locke Lamora in the dark and gritty city of Camorr. Scott Lynch's debut novel is a rollercoaster ride of heists, political maneuvering, and unexpected twists. With its vivid world-building and complex characters, "The Lies of Locke Lamora" will keep you enthralled from the very first page.
For those with a penchant for the shadows and an appetite for immersive storytelling, dark fantasy offers a captivating escape into realms of magic, mystery, and danger. The books mentioned above represent just a taste of the incredible tales waiting to be discovered in the genre. From epic wars to personal vendettas, from vividly realized worlds to morally complex characters, these dark fantasy books will ignite your imagination and leave you hungering for more. So, embrace the shadows, grab a cozy blanket, and lose yourself in the enchanting worlds of dark fantasy. Your next unforgettable reading adventure awaits.
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docholligay · 2 months
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"At the height of the long wet summer of the Seventy-seventh Year of Sendovani, the Thiefmaker of Camorr paid a sudden and unannounced visit to the Eyeless Priest at the Temple of Perelandro, desperately hoping to sell him the Lamora boy"--The Lies of Locke Lamora, Scott Lynch
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sassydefendorflower · 2 years
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15 for the book asks pls (u can review/rec however many u feel like!!) I've missed all the times you've talked about what you're reading and I'm curious -chinhands-
GASP!!! YOU WANT ME TO REVIEW AND REC BOOKS??? delightful <3 <3 <3
15. recommend and review a book
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch
Let's start with the book that highkey kicked me back into reading a few months ago. This fantasy book should be considered a classic even if it is certainly not for everyone: Locke Lamora is a cursing, sneaky bastard man, who truly is not as clever as he thinks he is. I love him. I love his best friend Jean. I love the city of Camorr which appears to be the Florida of this fantasy world. There are sharks. There are many interludes telling you the history of the gods, or why a game of handball ended with a 30 year old blood feud. Or why the prostitutes of Camorr are so frightening even the lord of the thieves wont mess with them.
No one is pretty and I didn't know I needed this in a book until I read the Gentlemen Bastards books.
There are some things it doesn't have: a lot of female characters (especially in the first book - but we do get super hot pirate queens in the second book so there is that) and a PG rating. There is cursing, blood, death, and a lot of foul language (also some torture).
The Spellslinger Saga by Sebastien de Castell
This YA fantasy series is a very fun read if you enjoy outcast stories about idiot boys and their amazing lesbian mentors. No, but for real, I loved much of the underlying world building in this series: the obvious narrative bias our main character embodies (and slowly learns to grow out off) because of his upbringing, the conceptualization of the Argosi lifestyle and the way they see the world, the absolute bonkers religious/magical conflict that everything is built on... it makes for a fun read. And Kellen is truly unlike many male protagonists in YA fantasy: after every skirmish or fight or disagreement, the first thing Kellen does is cry, because his emotions are just a bit too much. (i love him, your honor - i also love his absolutely amazing mentor Ferius who could top me any day)
Some other things to point out: the fifth book really takes a step back in quality but it is worth it for the sixth book (which is my absolute favorite), there is a storyline between an abuser and the abused kid and while I love the conclusion for much of this storyline the kid is an absolutely unreliable narrator and that can make it hard to read
Gallant by V.E. Schwab
While I still think V.E. Schwab writes her best works when she writes Fantasy alla Our Dark Duet and Shades of Magic, I did enjoy this little foray into gothic horror quite a bit. How much? It made me cry, and I think that is always a great sign. With a protagonist with a physical disability I was afraid the narrative would focus on her regaining her voice, but truly that was not the case - instead it was much more focused on the definition of home... and how inescapable fate is, and yet wholly dependent on our own choices.
It wasn't a perfect book - the middle dragged a bit - but I did greatly enjoy it and it reminded me a lot of Crimson Peak. It does very much feel like a gothic horror set in a bleak 1950s England and if that is your thing... congrats (also there is no romance in this book and that is a good thing in my book).
(ask me one of these book asks)
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