Ever wonder how much the fandom rooted for Princess Carolyn to find her well deserved happiness and how she was too good for Bojack? It’s pretty much contrasts with how the fandom treats Diane and how angry they are with how she didn’t appreciate Mr. PB even though it’s been spelled out clearly on the show that he wasn’t an attentive husband. Then again I don’t see anyone in the fandom ever trying to tear down Princess Carolyn.
Yeah, I've seen folks sometimes ignoring Princess Carolyn as a character, but I rarely see anyone outright HATING her, because like you said, we all agree that she deserves better than BoJack, her mother, and every other bad thing she went through.
I think there are a few things people don't understand about Diane. One is her trauma, which isn't like BoJack's or Princess Carolyn's. I think Diane's trauma had a more emotional impact on her, as in her family never listens to her and they often treat her like she's being almighty and preachy ("Oh, Princess Diane making everything about herself again"). That, and the "Cryane" videos, where her brothers film her crying when she found out her pen pal wasn't real. They're more emotionally neglectful and what we know as bullies, hence why people don't take the damage seriously. Even Diane probably thought that her trauma was "not as bad" as others, especially as she couldn't give examples or proof that her childhood was bad (and the brain often blocks memories to protect ourselves).
And even a non-abusive and well-meaning partner like Mr. Peanutbutter didn't respect or understand what Diane wanted. Despite her telling him over and over again that she doesn't like big gestures, Mr. Peanutbutter continued to do so. Maybe in his head it makes sense after his failed marriages, but that doesn't erase the fact he didn't listen to Diane, besides him projecting his exes onto her. Mr. Peanutbutter often gave her superficial acts of love, hence the recreation of Belle's room. He didn't bother getting real books, for that matter. Maybe it wasn't a public gesture like the previous times, but he still tainted Diane's comfort fantasy. And once again, he reinforces, even if unintentionally, that Diane's vulnerability will turn against her or humiliate her.
Finally, I think it's unfair for the fandom to compare Mr. Peanutbutter and Diane to PC and BoJack, because BoJack was an actual asshole to PC, who went through hell and back for him even when they weren't dating anymore. Mr. Peanutbutter and Diane were more incompatible than anything, and people overlook Diane's trauma because they see BoJack's, PC's or Beatrice's, and they just believe she's whining. But as someone who has a similar trauma experience to Diane's, it's still painful and lonely. And it's hard when you don't have any physical proof of the bad things that happened to you.
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I ordered The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader on your recommendation and I wasn’t ready when I took off the first layer to be greeted with what the hardcover looks like, I had to sit down for a minute. But reading through it it’s really nice to see and imagine his thoughts a bit more about the events that played in his life, and when he’s greeted with Obi-Wan at the end just :( ahhh thank you for recommending it truly!! Gonna stare at the art some more now…they knew what they were doing they can’t act like they didn’t KNOW…
the SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME oh my god hahahahah yes i literally pulled off the slip cover and was like
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META + Rhea and children
discussion: children.
i think for a long time rhea views motherhood the same way she views wifehood. mostly that it exists aligning to what she must eventually do out of duty. it is the same way she anticipates how, sooner or later, she will have to rule in her father's stead and, given if she has any children, that her first child will rule in her stead.
there is definitely a feeling of abject..... distant ( the best way i could describe it ) between her and those titles, something like, she knows she will eventually have to perform it, but until it truly comes to her, the matter, or the eventuality of the matter, does not affect her. i feel like, in a way, this was also her way of coping with things that are beyond her control.
regardless, her marriage with da3mon clearly shattered many perspective she did have, particularly the thought that, apparently, not everyone subscribes to the ideology that you must do something or adhere to something because it is expected out of you. again, her marriage with da3mon really changed many perspective and shifted / influenced a lot of her early behaviour during her reign.
it both devastated her and strengthened her — or rather, the devastation of its failure emboldened her to have more agency in her ruling thereafter. in a way, the neglect (and maybe cruelty from the early years when they couldn't get along) from da3mon had lasting impacts, but again. that is a discussion for another time.
why it's important for me to bring that up is that, with such shattering shift of perspective, and thus rhea having had to adapt quickly to becoming more self-reliant, i do think she quickly realises that, with her husband's refusal to bed her, he in turn will never give her heir. and true, rhea could easily carry bastards, but — she is absurdly dutiful (and religious), and to risk her child in any way is out of the question.
addition — this is mainly why rhea immediately recruits her sister with the news that any child she bore will be rhea's heir. this meant that, upon marriage, her sister's husband will be the one to move into their ancestral keep and any children joy royce bore will have to carry the royce's surnames, not the husband's. it is not an easy position to put on her sister, and i could talk about this too all day, but in summary, joy agrees, and things work out.
but back on the subject, i'd like to gently nudge on the idea that, it is a very different when you do not want something, and to have it taken from you — and that encapsulated my whole meta about rhea and children. i think... as a child herself, she did not give much of an opinion on motherhood. but as a woman, she realised very early on that her choice to become a mother is expressively taken from her*, and that fills her with longing like no other.
on another hand, had da3mon and rhea did produce children, i do think rhea have different set of worries and that would have rooted deeply in how much the targaryens monopoly their children — but yes, as of present, this is my thought on the subject.
tl;dr — rhea would have loved to have her own children. but because she's been denied so, she will care for others as best as she could within her best ability - and this extends to any kin or wards her house have or is connected with.
send meta and a word and watch me ramble :/
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