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[rillils]

how do explain stucky from the moment they met to where they are now (together in each others arms) to my friend who knows nothing about marvel

ohh this is a tough one, honey! i think i've got two options for you:

the short answer:

stucky is a compendium of all the best tropes out there, and i'm sure i'm gonna miss a few:

soulmates? check! star-crossed lovers? check! battle husbands? super check! mutual pining? check! 'and they were roommates'? check! best friends to lovers? check check check! long-lost lover comes back from the dead? fuck yeah, check! temporary amnesia? check! dude in distress trope? check! 'they will always find each other and choose each other in every lifetime'? also check! identity porn? extra check! saved by the power of love? you guessed it: check! slow burn or childhood sweethearts? you decide!!! did they share their first kiss when steve was 16, as per a popular fanon theory? did they only confess their feelings during the war? did they only get together much later, when bucky was healing in wakanda? you can pick literally ANY point in their timeline, and it will still make sense! they're all equally valid! you can even have multiple different headcanons at once, i mean who's gonna stop you??? all you have to do is join in the fun! 💕

the long AF answer, aka:

STEVE & BUCKY'S LOVE STORY, UNABRIDGED SOMEWHAT ABRIDGED, part 1/3

all right, let's set the scene:

imagine two young kids, let's call them steve and bucky. they meet, they immediately take to each other, they become instant besties! and as they grow up together, facing many hardships, their bond deepens. not only are they best friends; they are also each other's family. they take care of each other, and they both know they can always rely on one another in times of need.

when steve's mom (and only remaining relative) passes away, bucky reminds him that he's not as alone in this world as he thinks he is: bucky will always be by his side. bucky will always love him unconditionally, will always be there for him, for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, for richer and for poorer, and he wants steve to know that.

in fact, he asks steve to move in with him, thus offering steve both a literal and a metaphorical home.

and steve says yes!

SO. they are each other's home, they're living together, they're getting by all right. but then war breaks out, and eventually it reaches their little home as well: bucky is drafted, and steve, due to his many health issues, and despite his best intentions, can't follow the boy he loves onto the battlefield.

it's a very difficult time for them both - so much so that they can't even bring themselves to talk about it.

they have no choice but to say goodbye for now, knowing that they might never see each other again. but here's something you might not know yet about steve: he's the most reckless, most stubborn fucker america's ever seen. he's not gonna let this stop him!!! instead, he goes and gets a very sweet, kindly scientist to fucking experiment on him, because screw it, he's going to fight in this war if it's the last thing he does. and that's how he goes from Smol Steeb to Lorge Premium Steeb.

of course, things don't go exactly as he predicted, and steve is made to be the star of a war propaganda-fuelled musical kinda thingie, which he resents (but he looks fucking precious in his costume)

BUT! he does get closer to the actual battlefield. which is where he discovers that bucky has been captured by the enemy (!!!!!!!) and is most likely dead by now. but steve isn't willing to give up so easily! he'll believe bucky's dead when he sees it with his own eyes. so, he embarks on this suicide solo mission in the attempt to get bucky back, even if it means wandering on his own. into enemy territory. where he would be shot. on. sight. with no protection for his dumb ass except for a bunch of theater props!!! but such is the power of love, y'all.

against all odds, steve finds bucky very much still alive! and as soon as bucky recognizes him, even as confused as he is, he pulls out this beautiful, ecstatic, angelic-ass smile, like he's just seen god or he got high on some real good edibles or maybe both idk, like my man here was having a serious Religious Experience™ you guys

and i just wanna say, they could have totally kissed here and it would have made plenty of sense. but that's true of like 90% of their scenes in this franchise, so *shrugs*

ANYWAY steve takes bucky in his arms (well technically yes he does) and brings him to safety, and on their way there, bucky proves once more just how hard he meant that "with you til the end of the line" from before

afterwards, steve is finally given the chance to fight, just like he wanted.

bucky, on the other hand, could very well leave the war behind and go home; but when he learns that steve is staying, he chooses to stay too, and fight by his side. and he tells steve so in this very intimate, softspoken, delightfully suggestive conversation, which can be summed up like this:

and so they walk right back into the heart of the fight, only this time together, as they were always meant to be!

but. during an especially tricky mission, they're surprised by the enemy, and as a result, bucky falls to his death into a deep ravine.

steve is devastated. overwhelmed with guilt, grief and rage, he vows to bring down the people responsible for his loss, even if it costs him his own life.

and um, it kind of does? cost him his own life?

victorious after his last vis-a-vis with The Antagonist™, steve still chooses to sacrifice himself to prevent the catastrophe set into motion by the aforementioned Antagonist™. he's flying a jet over the frosty expanse of the atlantic, and you know, from the outside, you could easily argue that he could try to save himself. if he really wanted to. but with bucky dead, and the people responsible for all this pain, either dead or captured, it seems like all the will to fight is gone from steve; and so he plunges the jet straight into the ocean, and himself with it.

is this the end of their story?, you might ask.

the answer is: of course not!!!! the best is yet to come, babes!!!

EDIT: here is part 2

#stucky just stucky #personal #stucky #yes this is very dumb but dumb is my middle name lmao #i hope the read more works?????????? #are all the pictures even there???? #i'm too tired to check agsdjahkasdjk #sorry it took me a while to reply honey!!!! #i hope you're having a fantastic day!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3 #the silly stucky recap you didn't ask for #rillers scribbles

[paperstorm]

Nice ask day!

Let's say you're writing an Avengers AU for Lone Star; which Lone Star character would be which Avengers character and if you're up for explaining, why?

Why have I never thought about this????? Okay. Okay lets get into it. I think ....

Captain America - Carlos. This feels obvious to me. Unbelievably kind-hearted, wants to do good and help people more than anything, weight of the world on his shoulders. Never thinks he's enough even as he's moving mountains. Willing to throw himself on every grenade so strangers don't get hurt. Puts on the bravest face but riddled with anxiety. Very gay but forced by Society to marry a woman. Can you tell Cap is my favourite.

Thor - Paul. Strong! Kind! Funny! Struggles a bit to feel like he belongs. Very noble, loves his friends.

Black Widow - Marjan. Clearly. Explanation not needed. Unbelievably badass. Vulnerable underneath but doesn't want anyone to see.

Iron Man - Owen. The leader, sometimes a wonderful human being, sometimes an asshole. Complicated. Traumatized, doesn't always handle it very well. Can be arrogant. Can also be the best group dad.

Hulk - JUDD. Of course it's Judd. Lorge. Doesn't understand his own strength sometimes. Wants more than anything to protect his friends. Heavy trauma underneath muscles.

Hawkeye - I'll be honest I mostly know these characters from the movies and Hawkeye has absolutely zero personality in any of them so this one is harder. Maybe Mateo? Comic book Hawkeye is hearing impaired and that makes him a little bit alienated from the others even tho they love him so maybe there's a bit of a parallel with Mateo's learning disability? Is that anything?? Its a stretch I know.

Okay that is the main 6 original Avengers but I can't leave out the rest of our firefam so

Winter Soldier - TK. Of course. If Carlos is Steve, TK has to be Bucky. Piercing blue-green eyes. Suffers the most out of any of them but is also the strongest for getting through it.

Captain Marvel - Tommy. The most powerful. Does no harm but takes no shit.

Spiderman - I changed my mind, Mateo is Spiderman. The baby of the group. No one is Hawkeye because movie Hawkeye sucks.

Falcon - Nancy. Bffs with Steve and Bucky. Always cracking jokes. Feels somewhat inadequate even tho she's awesome. Notices everything. Absolutely strong enough to take over when Cap hangs it up.

#911ls asks #this was so much fun #now I really do wanna write a marvel au

[cyb-by-lang]

HIHI LANG (sorry hadn't had brainspace to comment yET BUT SOON GROUP PROJECT IS ALMOST DONE) instead of being productive i ended up binge reading all of it must be a thursday again and still absolutely loved it!! Recently got more entrenched in critical role (your fic introduced me to the series, and dnd in general, so many years back) and the animated vox machina series dragged me in deeper and the mighty nein!!! dunno much about them (yet) but I absolutely ADORE how you wrote them in the fic!!!

It's so cool reading through this second (third?) time with more dnd context, and also how overpowered team minato are levels/stats/abilities wise compared to the "new" characters of the mighty nein LMAOO

The way you blended the two worlds, or rather how seamlessly kei and co have been meshed into this world despite their differences is so fun to read, all of your crossovers are, honestly, and i can't wait for kakashi's reaction to finding out hat obito was... aware that his wolf form was a shiftshape/were form xD

ALSO! the art that you've made for team minato's designs are so good!! the height comparison chart in one of them is also so funny, especially considering kakashi is currently very... wolf... lol

Thanks so much for all the fun stories and I hope you have a marvellous day!

Obito unfortunately doesn't know how True Seeing works! Which is fair; even the players of a given campaign might not read the spell description and realize it sees through Polymorph spells along with basically all illusions.

...And to be fair, I'm not sure any of the Mighty Nein know this is how the spell works, either. Since none of them can currently cast it.

Glad you like the art! I wanted to emphasize that Kakashi's wolf form was Lorge and make the "well, put a leash on him and it'll be fine" ploy even more absurd than it already was.

#it must be a thursday #cadriona #asks #kakashi hatake #obito uchiha

[zorilleerrant]

Billy Batson but he’s Shazam and Captain Marvel. Shazam is the wizard and the power, and that’s why everyone is (becomes one with) Shazam when they’re powered up. That’s mostly just Taller Billy. But! Captain Marvel is a different guy who used to have his own body and now lives in Billy’s head. All of the time. So when Billy is smol he could be either himself or Marvel (who is not a Captain when he is smol and does not remember all Captain things like having a body), but when Billy is lorge he could be either Shazam (who is a distilled essence of Billy with influence from every member of the current Shazamily and not actually Billy himself) or Captain Marvel (who has all of Billy’s memories but is distinctly Not Billy). I don’t know how this would work out I think everyone would Hate It.

#look i said something #billy batson

[kulemii]

Top five things you love about Big Fish Husband, go!

weird, tumblr is dating this dec 1st but i only received it in my ask box a few days ago. idk how long ago you sent this but regardless- i'm sorry for your wait! from five to one. let's get into it, shall we?

YAKUZA 5 SPOILERS AHEAD (cw; there might be whore behavior...i'll try to tone it down just be aware 💜)

NUMBER 5: STRONK (with proof) & THICC & LORGE

i am... weak to a strong, THICC man, okay? does his head look like it was plopped atop his shoulders as an afterthought? yes! thick head, thick neck, thick shoulders, thick back. where do my arms go? he so wide! i'm a short, stubby gworl. if he looks like he could bench press me and our inevitable five kids, i invite him to get started on #1 😏. can't help it.

NUMBER 4: VOICE

i've said this a bajillion times but i am loyal to my favorite seiyuu and hiroki yasumoto is someone at the top of that list. masa caught my eye just because He, HOWEVER it was when he spoke that my brain went ❗❗❗❗ and lo and behold, it was The Man! i already had an interest but then i had to cling to masa on sheer principle after that. it was the law, ya know? gotta follow the law 💜

NUMBER 3: HANDSOME (witH PROOF)

this will be the last on the physical bits of him- it's not ALL physical babe! but... there are some things about aizawa, physically that i think are so appealing and i love whenever i have the opportunity to point them out to people. when i talk about people about him, lots of people cite his body as the thing that made them realize that he was attractive and that's totally cool! like, 100% there's nothing wrong with that- in fact i think that he would appreciate that his body is so loved because he's spent a ton of time building it to become what it is! and my, is it a marvelous one at that. however, there are other things! like, for example- his absolutely gorgeous deep olive skin tone and the way his koi works against it- the darker color of it i mean. they work so well together! and when he gets sweaty??? GOD! so amazing! he's got such pretty eyebrows- they're sharp and expressive and you can tell when he's got something on his mind, well before he even opens his mouth. his hair looks SO SOFT! i have so many headcanons about his hair omg. the TEXTURE of his skin like OMG!!!! pores, moles, stubble- HE HAS EVERYTHING AND IT'S SO CUTE <3 i love just....admiring his face 💜 his eyes; he's got some of the prettiest eyes in the series if you ask me and you have so i'll say it again 📣AIZAWA HAS SOME OF THE PRETTIEST EYES IN THE SERIES~! i wish rgg took better care of them throughout because there are times in the game (not cutscenes) where his eyes aren't lined up properly with who he's speaking with and the lighting in addition to that give them a really funky look. but aside from that- they're literally so beautiful, like they twinkle under moonlight! THEY TWINKLE BABE!!!!! no but fr, just the shape of his eyes themselves MWAH chef's kiss! speaking of kissing-- nah i ain't gonna do it- this bullet's gone on way too long lmaooo

NUMBER 2: PASSIONATE (and a lil sensitive uwu)

gimme a big man with a little character that he is over-protective (+ willing to risk his life) over and i will slap him with the gentle giant trope and never look back. honestly, i didn't have to go outta my way for this one- the writer's did it themselves! they made him 8'6 and morinaga 4'11 and was like 'ok morinaga, you're the big brother here annnd action🎬' then aizawa was like 'my aniki broke up with me on a sticky note and idk what to do with my life. 🥺🥺pls halp' and i was like, 'that there, is a sensitive big man. i can do something with that.' i've done so much with that omg. ALSO, seeing him get all riled up when he wanted to speak his mind 🥰 love me a fictional man with fuse shorter than my pinky <3. bonus points if he's sooo dumb about it too.

NUMBER 1: BELIEFS

masato is a nepobaby... and despite being handed the keys to two castles, the king went and fucked off with them both and the price? snow nap. frozen nipples! ICONIC BEHAVIOR IF YOU ASK ME AND YOU ARE SO 📣ICONIC BEHAVIOR! aizawa said, that he doesn't care about an inheritance- his dad's probably loaded now- was, rip lol. he was believes in hard work begetting reward. aizawa says NO to nepotism! er, despite sorta kinda basically still sorta kinda benefitting from that nepotism because how else would he have gotten a shot at kiryu (and have himself be heard) if he weren't someone at least vaguely plot relevant...... fourthwallmachinebrokelol WE'RE ALL HYPOCRITES HERE~!!! just making inferences based off other shit he said, i don't think he's all too fond of the old guard remaining in major seats of power. and like, sure that might make him a wee bit ageist but like.... anyway, i'm all for someone deciding their company sucks but they still want a promotion and then challenging one of the board members to hand-to-hand combat. it's a power move, really. everyone should give a shot, i support them. with a kiss if their name is masato aizawa and they look good in a silk purple button-up 💜

#aizawa masato #masato aizawa #yakuza 5 spoilers #the last probably didn't make any damn sense #i had a lot more shit to say but think this post went on wayyyyyy too long #anyway- thanks for sending this! #i always appreciate when someone ASKS me to gush about aizawa #i feel less guilty about it lol

[pepperpixel]

who the hell let bucky barnes be so beautiful.... whose idea was this. im gonna die.

#also applicable: who let sebastian stan be so beautiful #his parents?? i'd like to speak with them because there son is.. too pretty #dangerously so #lol srry this is out of the blue i was just watching fucking... stucky amvs and getting my socks rocked off by this gorgeous man #legit its... unbelievable.. his features.. are so gentle.. but his body... is so. lorge.. #i die #pepper words #bucky barnes #marvel

[pluckyredhead]

Character Profile: Al Rothstein (Nuklon/Atom-Smasher)

My first character profile was about Grant Emerson, a.k.a. Damage, son of the Golden Age Atom. Today I’m going to tell you about his sort-of brother, Al Rothstein, godson of the Golden Age Atom, who I love so, so much even if no one knows who he is. (But you will soon, because Noah Centineo is playing him in the Black Adam movie next year, and I have NO IDEA what that is going to look like, because in the comics it’s absolutely a tragic romance. You’ll see.)

Al technically debuted in All-Star Squadron #25 in 1983, but his real introduction came in the Infinity, Inc. comic that launched the next year. Infinity, Inc. was a team made up of the children and proteges of the original Justice Society of America, and Al fit in perfectly: Al Pratt, the Atom, was godfather to first Al’s mom Terri and then to Al himself. (I’m assuming this is more of an honorary title than a formal relationship, since the Rothsteins are Jewish and Jews don’t have godparents. We also don’t name our kids after living loved ones because it’s considered bad luck, so there’s no way Terri would have named her son after Al Pratt. This is why we get sensitivity readers, folks, even if that term didn’t exist in 1983.)

Al's grandfather was a supervillain and the details bore me to tears but radiation was involved somehow, which is why Al has powers: he’s 7′6″ at his normal height and can grow...basically indefinitely enormous? He’s also super strong, and his strength and durability grow with his size. For a while he could also phase through walls but that was weird so they just sort of forgot about it.

BIG BOY. LORGE.

Anyway, Al celebrates joining Infinity, Inc. by shaving his hair into a mohawk! Bless his sweet, awkward heart.

...Honestly, though, he doesn’t do a whole lot on Infinity, Inc. - he’s the muscle, but he doesn’t have a lot of plot to call his own. He has a hopeless crush on his teammate Lyta, who is engaged to fellow teammate Hector, and when Hec gets Lyta pregnant, goes evil, and dies, Al offers to marry her because I guess he thinks it’s 1883 and not 1983. Like, it’s a kind gesture, but very old-fashioned (and of course Hec isn’t actually dead...it’s a whole thing). He also has a relationship that goes nowhere with another teammate, Yolanda, mostly because of all the pining after Lyta. Al. Darling. This is sad.

Infinity, Inc. disbanded by the end of the decade, and in 1994, Al and his fellow Infinitor Todd Rice (Obsidian) joined the Justice League. They were sort of just teammates in the Infinity, Inc. days, but now they are delightfully codependent unlikely best friends, with Al as the sweet golden retriever to Todd’s furiously standoffish cat. Also, Al has a ponytail now. SOMEONE HELP THIS BOY.

I love these two so much. Like, this is it, this is the friendship:

It’s also made basically as explicit as humanly possible without saying it out loud that Todd is in love with Al, who is oblivious. My theory is that the series writer couldn’t get away with more than one gay character on the team in 1995, and there’s already an out lesbian. (Al asks her out. Al has absolutely zero gaydar.)

When someone points out to Al that he and Todd are...close, he asks Todd if he’s in love with him, at which point Todd angrily declares that he doesn’t like labels, and even if the only two people he loves in the whole world are his sister and Al, that doesn’t mean anything, okay??? Al plays some basketball about it and then they hug it out:

This is genuinely pretty progressive for the mid-90s! (For context, Marvel at the time had a policy that any books with gay characters had to be labeled as Adults Only. So.) Todd would eventually come out as gay in 2006, but that is a story for another character profile.

This version of the Justice League disbanded soon after, but that worked out well for Al, because he got picked up by the Justice Society instead, in the 1999 JSA series. He celebrates by changing his codename to Atom Smasher and switching to a costume closer to that of Al Pratt’s, who was killed in 1994:

Al is absolutely thrilled to be on the JSA, since he’s idolized them since childhood. I find this super charming, because the League is definitely the top tier team and he’s already been a Leaguer, but no, he wants to be a JSAer. Bless.

I mean. This is a glow-up.

Al is less thrilled that one of his teammates is Black Adam, the Captain Marvel villain. (Captain Marvel the DC character, who is now called Shazam. It’s complicated.) Black Adam is basically an immortal beefcake with all the powers of Captain Marvel/Shazam, who spent a few millennia being a villain and now wants to make up for it. Al, who is extremely Lawful Good, is not on board.

Then Al’s mom is killed in a plane crash orchestrated by the terrorist Kobra. Al is understandably livid and wants to kill Kobra, but the rest of the JSA talks him into taking Kobra alive and handing him over to the authorities.

Meanwhile, an incredibly powerful time traveling villain called Extant has been messing around with the timeline and threatening all of reality. (Extant also just so happens to be the person who killed Al Pratt back in 1994, so Al has pre-existing beef with him.) After a battle with the JSA, Extant flees into the timestream to create more havoc, pursued by Al and Metron, a godlike being who’s been hanging around spouting portentous warnings. Al comes up with a way to stop Extant from fucking up the timeline again: switch him with Terri Rothstein, right before the plane crash. Metron agrees, largely just to see what’ll happen, and suddenly Terri Rothstein is right there, alive and well, and Extant is sitting on a plane which immediately crashes, killing him.

(Al’s like 25, so I don’t know why they’re drawing Terri to look 103. Call it Aunt May Syndrome. Also that narration is from Courtney Whitmore, Stargirl, because this story implies that they’ll eventually get married, which...we’ll get there.)

This is the start of Al’s moral downfall, and while we can debate whether or not he truly killed Extant - after all, Metron made the switch and Kobra crashed the plane, but Extant wouldn’t have been on that plane if Al hadn’t suggested it - he 100% considers himself to have committed murder. But he’s also like, “Well, I love my mom, so I feel bad about it, but not that bad.” Also, he saved all of reality. I think we can argue that there are some extenuating circumstances here, is what I’m saying.

Soon after that, he and Black Adam are kidnapped and forced to fight to the death. Instead, they become best friends.

Those adoring looks in the second panel are a lot, you guys.

Then Kobra’s trial happens. He’s gotten his followers to become suicide bombers, basically, and threatens to have them all trigger the bombs if he doesn’t go free, giving the judge no real choice. Al is livid, and Adam has had enough with being hamstrung by the JSA’s black and white morality. Adam puts together a small team, Al included; they track down Kobra and Adam murders him while Al holds him in place.

Their next stop is Kahndaq, Adam’s home country, which is now under the rule of an oppressive dictator who the international community is basically completely ignoring. Adam stages a coup, but it’s Al who takes out the dictator:

Adam becomes the new ruler of Kahndaq by military fiat, but the people love him and welcome him as their leader. This does not stop the JSA from flying in to...kidnap him back to America and destabilize the country I guess??? Look, I’m not saying stepping on dictators is a solution (unless...?), but probably a team of mostly old white men called the Justice Society of America shouldn’t barge into a Middle Eastern nation with absolutely zero authority from the US government or the UN to just...go absolutely apeshit with violence? Which is what they do. Like, Hawkman mutilates his own godson. But they’re the good guys, because killing is wrong but mutilation is fine, I guess!

Meanwhile, Al is torn between his loyalty to Adam and the little voice in his head telling him that this is wrong, which turns out to be not his conscience, but the Silver Age Atom, Ray Palmer, who has been running around all tiny on his shoulder and gaslighting him. (I know that term gets misused a lot on the internet, but Ray - who like the JSA is positioned as the good guy here - is straight-up trying to make Al think he’s crazy, which is what gaslighting actually is.)

To put an end to the violence, Al and Captain Marvel come to an agreement: the JSA leaves Black Adam to rule Kahndaq since it’s the will of the people, but on the condition that Adam never sets foot outside of his borders. Everyone agrees, and Al choses to stay in Kahndaq, by Adam’s side. BECAUSE THEY’RE IN LOVE.

Some time later, a time traveling villain called Per Degaton screws up the timeline by causing the original JSA to disband permanently in 1951. A time traveling hero named Rip Hunter (Booster Gold’s son, <3 u Rippy) recruits a bunch of JSA successors to go back in time and convince their predecessors not to quit - including Al. Seeing his mentor again and fighting alongside the JSA makes Al realize he wants to rejoin the team, but while they’re deliberating, Adam shows up and asks Al to “come home.”

UGH THESE TWO.

Kahndaq is actually under attack by the Spectre, who has gone evil, so Al agrees to go back with Adam and help.

Adam: What about our wedding vows, Albert???

The Spectre is basically destroying Kahndaq, so Al grows the most gigantic he’s ever grown to fight him, which is not going to work because the Spectre is the embodiment of God’s vengeance and Al is just a very big boy. He offers himself up to the Spectre to be judged in place of the Kahndaqi people. The Spectre grabs him by the heart and tells him “The moment you killed Extant, your heart died.” Al falls, and the Spectre leaves.

Al asks a crying Courtney if the JSA voted him back in, and when she says yes, he asks her to tell his mom he died a member of the Justice Society. Then he dies. Black Adam FREAKS THE HELL OUT (there’s a classic screaming NO at the sky moment, it’s great) and uses his Shazam lightning to defibrillate Al back to life:

THIS HAD BETTER BE IN THE MOVIE.

The JSA takes Al back to the States, and when he recovers, he voluntarily hands himself over to the authorities and has a really unclear trial (federal? international? WHO KNOWS) where he pleads guilty to war crimes and is sent to Belle Reve, where he’s promptly recruited onto the Suicide Squad. He's sent into Kahndaq to take down Adam, who by this point has married a woman named (well, superhero named) Isis, which I guess means he and Al are broken up. It all goes very poorly.

Then Isis is killed. In revenge, Adam...uh, commits genocide upon the nearby nation of Bialya. Al at first refuses to believe he would do such a thing, but eventually teams up with the JSA to help take him down. However, during the climactic battle, he saves Adam’s life instead and secretly lets him go. What a sap.

Adam goes on a quest to bring Isis back to life, which suuuuper doesn’t work, in part because the corpse he’s working with is missing a finger. Al finds the finger (don’t ask) and brings it to him, which is very in character for the guy who was best man at Hector and Lyta’s wedding like the day after proposing to Lyta. They could not sound more like ex-lovers if they tried.

Al helps the JSA when they have to fight Adam and a properly resurrected Isis yet again, and does in fact manage to talk Adam down and save the day (though Adam and Isis are turned into statues by the Wizard for their sins...it’s a whole thing).

Al is formally readmitted to the JSA, although some members still don’t trust him. Somewhere in there he has the big fight with Grant that I talked about in the Damage profile, though after that they get along fine and even have their own little teamup move:

I love any and all fastball specials.

And then there’s the Courtney stuff. SIGH. So Courtney (Stargirl) has had an obvious crush on Al since they both joined the team in 1999. He never really seemed to reciprocate, but like I mentioned earlier, it’s suggested at one point that they will eventually get married. After Al’s fall from grace, it’s very clear that her profound disappointment in him is particularly painful to him, and once he rejoins the JSA, it’s...let’s say less clear whether or not he reciprocates, to the point that multiple characters comment on the fact that something is going on between them.

The problem is, Al is, like I said, somewhere in his mid-20s, and Courtney is barely 17. Finally, the JSA old guard is like “Al, you gotta shut this down,” which he does:

I truly do not know why these narrative choices were made. Especially since this is the second time a romance is set up between Courtney and an older man (Billy Batson, who is actually her age but the rest of the team didn’t know that at the time) that is shut down by the old men of the JSA. It’s not that I want Al to date a teenager, but why keep telling this story about how this teenage girl’s innocence must be protected by all the old men in her life? That’s gross!

And then a new writer comes on board and is like “You know what’s hot? This weirdness” and so we get a very strange plotline where Al is kidnapped (Grant’s the only one who notices), followed by Courtney. They find themselves in a hellish dimension called the Subtle Realms and have to fight their way through together, which leads to them falling in love:

...except that wasn’t actually Al, it was a supervillain disguised as Al, preying on Courtney’s love for him to break a curse. Courtney and the real Al are rescued by the JSA, but things are incredibly awkward between them after that. Again, strange and creepy choices from the writer that make neither character look good.

Sadly, that’s sort of it for Al - he sticks around on the JSA’s spinoff team for a little bit longer, but then the New 52 happened and he was retconned out of existence. (Interestingly, Al Pratt was brought back to life in the New 52 as basically a combination of Al and Grant, i.e. he can grow very big and has explody hands.)

But! As mentioned in the Damage post, Al was recently brought back into continuity with Infinite Frontier, as big as ever!

I think we should call them TEAM BLASTSMASH from now on. Also, I love them.

Al’s best comic appearances are in the 1999 JSA series, no question, although I have a soft spot for the extremely 90s Justice League America run. There is very little fic about him on AO3, since he hasn’t existed for a decade, but I wrote about his relationship with Grant in That’s How the Light Gets In. I am also in love with A Working Definition by Neotoma, which delves into his sexuality and his relationship with Todd.

In conclusion, I love Al Rothstein very very much and I am extremely excited to see the biggest boy on screen next year. Don’t screw this up, Centineo!

#al rothstein #atom smasher #nuklon #infinity inc #jsa #justice society of america #character profiles

[peterparkerincorrectquotes]

if it works as a distraction for you: 8 (and say why), 13, 14, 18 (though I'm pretty sure i know the answer), 19, 23, 24, Space Stone, and Mind Stone on that number/infinity stone AMA. i hope you get to a better place (literally and figuratively) soon!

catch me not understanding what this meant for a solid 30s—

8. Were you team cap or iron man?

ok actually when I first saw the movie I was pretty young and all I knew was that I loved bucky so uh I was team cap!! but now I’m team iron man cuz he just??? wanted to make sure there were legal guidelines ! though I acknowledge he was kinda mean at times

13. Are you going to get Disney+

nah fam I’m poor, but I might watch that stuff illegally 👀

14. How would you have defeated Thanos?

so I woulda borrowed one of the ant man suits and pulled an Alice in Wonderland and just cried—except the tears woulda been super lorge and so thanos woulda drowned

18. Which marvel movie/scene made you cry the most?

I don’t cry very easily with movies, except when it comes to like familial love! so Tony’s death alone was okay for me, but then peter started like melting down and I was like “aw shit here we go again” like how DARE they rob him of another male role model! HOW MANY FATHER FIGURES MUST DIE

anyway similar goes for Peter’s death like it was ok but like seeing TONY upset?? oof my gay lil heart wept

19. If you could snap one thing out of existence, what would it be?

uh idk there’s this one chick at school who bullies me so maybe her idk

also just homophobia

like bye

z snap that shit outta here

23. Which character has the best haircut?

my gay ass says carol babeyyy

diggin that lesbian energy yee haw

24. Which character has the worst haircut?

I mean hmm thanos?? he doesn’t even have any hair... and it’s not even like... an aesthetic bald like okoye... or nebula... it’s just... ugly...

Space Stone - it is here :)

Mind Stone - I’m alright rn!! My dad came to see me and we chatted a bit!! talked about cars. obviously I didn’t understand but it was nice to talk!!!

#🐡 numbered asks #🐡irl #ask 🐡 #🐡 #anon #language

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Giant-Size Fantastic Four #3

Wed Jul 31 2019 [02:16 PM] Umbramatic: LORGE [02:16 PM] Wack'd: The return of Rich Buckler! And special guest Marv Wolfman--a man who clearly has a lot of faith in his audience:

[02:17 PM] maxwellelvis: We've got another take on the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, haven't we? [02:17 PM] Wack'd: This is the Fantastic Four's first, I believe [02:17 PM] maxwellelvis: I mean in comics as a whole [02:18 PM] Umbramatic: this looks like it'd be a stained glass window in some really weird church [02:18 PM] maxwellelvis: And especially in Marvel. [02:18 PM] Wack'd: Given how much the Lee/Kirby years love giving them evil dopplegangers it's weird we're only just getting to this now [02:18 PM] Wack'd: Seems like a natural fit [02:19 PM] Bocaj: Are they less dumb than apocalypse’s? [02:19 PM] maxwellelvis: They've got the colors of the horses right, but outside of War I can only guess which is which. [02:19 PM] maxwellelvis: On the white horse is a guy with no discernible features whatsoever carrying a sword, which is War's weapon. [02:20 PM] maxwellelvis: War looks the part, but has a shield instead [02:20 PM] Wack'd: Ugh, we're in full-on Prince Valiant mode. Use speech bubbles, dammit!

[02:20 PM] maxwellelvis: The guy on the black horse has no weapon at all, which I associate with Death [02:21 PM] maxwellelvis: and on the pale horse is a cloaked guy with wings and a stick, so maybe THAT's Death [02:21 PM] maxwellelvis: Ahh, they're doing the common thing where Conquest is out, and Pestilence is separate from Death. [02:22 PM] Wack'd: Anyway, this prologue ends and our story starts in earnest. People are doubled over in the streets, being attacked by rats and monsters but not rat monsters [02:22 PM] maxwellelvis: Also, are the Horsemen implying that they've done this before? On our planet? [02:23 PM] Wack'd:

[02:24 PM] Wack'd: Oh, this is an "Earth is special" thing. Okay

[02:25 PM] Wack'd: Anyway these guys were exiled for failing to conquer Earth once and now they want another shot at it [02:26 PM] Bocaj: I hate Earth is special [02:26 PM] Bocaj: I hate it strongly for reasons both considered and irrational [02:26 PM] Wack'd: MARV: You didn't roll initiative! [02:26 PM] Wack'd: BEN: No, I get a surprise round, see?

[02:27 PM] Umbramatic: etti-kutt is my favorite marvel character [02:28 PM] Wack'd: Anyway. Pestilence tries to make Ben sick, but rolls badly, and Ben gets a Nat 20 on his constitution check, causing Pestilence to die instantly [02:29 PM] Bocaj: Sure [02:30 PM] Wack'd: So Reed and Ben take off after one Horseman, Johnny and Medusa after another, and agree to regroup for the fourth [02:30 PM] Wack'd: *insert joke about splitting the party here* [02:31 PM] Wack'd:

[02:31 PM] Wack'd: Africa! You know--all of it! [02:32 PM] Wack'd: Clearly the only explanation for Native Africans having heavy artillery

[02:34 PM] Wack'd: Oh good a Scientologist

[02:35 PM] Bocaj: Dooooooooon't you know you never split the party [02:36 PM] Wack'd: Anyway, Johnny defeats War and unmasks him, only to see HIS OWN FACE! And then Medusa sees HER OWN FACE! And then he rants for a little bit about war is all of us and then vanishes [02:36 PM] Bocaj: "I can't believe I was Darth Vader all along" [02:36 PM] maxwellelvis: Oh cool, I've seen Red Dwarf too [02:37 PM] Wack'd: Anyway, uh, Medusa concludes he's been defeated because "there was nothing more he can do" [02:37 PM] Bocaj: Sure [02:37 PM] Wack'd: Man turns out beating up the personifications of man's downfalls is super easy [02:37 PM] Wack'd: But they're not magic, they are ancient aliens, so *shrug* [02:39 PM] Wack'd: Meanwhile Hunger has set up base in Cambodia [02:39 PM] Wack'd: So let's see how much more racist this can get [02:40 PM] Wack'd: "There's no food crisis after a war! It's all in your head"

[02:40 PM] Wack'd: Reed solves this by force feeding the guy [02:43 PM] Wack'd: Okay well this is just incomprehensible

[02:43 PM] Bocaj: was that vore? [02:43 PM] Wack'd: ...symbolic vore, maybe? [02:43 PM] Bocaj: He ate his hunger, ha [02:44 PM] Wack'd: Anyway time to fight Death [02:44 PM] Bocaj: As ya do [02:44 PM] Umbramatic: famous last words [02:44 PM] Wack'd: Who's just Silver Surfer with a flashlight where his face should be [02:44 PM] Bocaj: I'll be so happy if thats literally what he is in universe [02:45 PM] Wack'd:

[02:45 PM] Umbramatic: ngl that's actually kind of a cool design for a psychopomp [02:46 PM] Bocaj: I lament I couldn't find a clip of Rimmer kneeing Death in the psychopomps [02:46 PM] Umbramatic: oof [02:46 PM] Wack'd: Johnny: Wait, does this mean that all four of us eventually die by having our faces melted off? [02:46 PM] Wack'd: Ben: Look, I'm just glad to know there's still a skull in there

[02:46 PM] Bocaj: hah [02:48 PM] Wack'd: Johnny: Is that true? About matter and anti-matter? [02:48 PM] Wack'd: Reed: Look, it was either bullshit some science, or spend five pages figuring out that each of our duplicates know all our moves

[02:49 PM] Umbramatic: pfff [02:49 PM] Bocaj: I mean. It almost makes sense [02:50 PM] Wack'd: So! Ben beats Johnny, Johnny beats Reed, Reed beats Medusa, Medusa beats Ben [02:50 PM] Wack'd: Medusa specifically throws Ben at Death, exploding him [02:51 PM] Wack'd: And then Reed explains that actually, after the Horsemen showed up the first time, Earth had some sort of planetary defense system put in place, so really any attack would've finished off any of the Horsemen [02:51 PM] Umbramatic: now nothing can die [02:51 PM] Umbramatic: earth will soon be overwhelmed by its own biomass [02:52 PM] Wack'd: Nah Death was just an ancient alien alien calling himself Death and having a Death theme [02:52 PM] maxwellelvis: I can't believe Roald Dahl ripped this off [02:52 PM] Umbramatic: oh good [02:52 PM] Wack'd: The real Death is a skeleton with tits who fucks Deadpool [02:52 PM] Bocaj: Ancient aliens sure love our mythological bullshit [02:52 PM] Umbramatic: oh [02:52 PM] Bocaj: "Earth had some sort of planetary defense system put in place, so really any attack would've finished off any of the Horsemen" Hey this warrants more explaining reed [02:53 PM] Wack'd: I truncated it because it's not really worth going into [02:53 PM] Bocaj: oh [02:53 PM] Wack'd: But if you need more than that there was another race of ancient aliens in caveman times who kicked the Horsemans' ass [02:53 PM] Wack'd: And then set up this "if someone lands of blow on you you teleport back to your home planet" thing [02:54 PM] Bocaj: Its like a one hit challenge run [02:54 PM] Wack'd: So they'll be back eventually maybe [02:54 PM] Umbramatic: one (1) hit point [02:55 PM] Wack'd: Alright I've got time for one (1) more [02:55 PM] Umbramatic: yay!

#1975 #Gerry Conway #(story only) #Marv Wolfman #Rich Buckler #The Main Book

[neigma]

I just played volume 9 of friendsim and it's reaction time!

It was Chahut, we all know it was Chahut, you tried WhatPumpkin

If you didn't give her a Louisiana accent you did it wrong

We're still friends with Amisia, we just slipped out while she was in the bathroom and honestly? Mood

What a way to start a route, getting tackled by a tiny blue girl and praying we don't kill anyone or anything with our ass

Chahut just sliding in from the right like "oh hi yes I exist and I'm a lorge girl"

Aw they're not moirails because Chahut's leaving soon :(

Let's go to clown church!

I haven't been to church more than like, once or twice in my life but spacing out during a sermon is a big church mood

Ah, preaching bullshit, what I was trained (through improv) to do

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to use spray paint as face paint but who am I to question a church of murder clowns?

This is what happens when you bleed in a murder church, you get murdered as part of the bloodstained glass

On the other hand, if you chicken out, you get to sit down and slam a faygo with someone who may or may not be Marvus?? It said he had a hat and a genteel demeanor

Yes, Chahut, please save me from the other clowns

Suddenly we're Facetiming with the Grand Highblood?!?!

Who apparently thinks we have nice legs??

And hey, he said to be friends, so let's be friends!

To survive, you start by falling down a lot

Onto Azdaja Knelax, certified anime villain

This boi's even talking to himself like he's in an anime, what a dork

Hi mister cliche anime villain!

New drinking game: every time Azdaja does something needlessly dramatic with his psionics take a shot

Azdaja: explains the rules and strategies of Duel Strife to hear the sound of his own voice

Me: sorry what I was imagining you saying "it's over nine-thousand"

Konyyl what were you doing that caused you to stand up your matesprit!!

It's time to D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL STRIFE!!

This boy flapped his coat with his psionics, what a dork (also take a shot)

Azdaja: starts monologuing like an anime villain

Random cerulean: :::;)

Azdaja: ||| Oh fuck |||

Imo he looked cooler when he was sparking it up because of the cerulean than when he was trying to be cool

We may have ended up in the Disciple's cave??

Could Azdaja and Konyyl be vacillating between pale and flush?

Azdaja: ||| You must be wondering what it's like to be a prince |||

Me, marveling at cave drawings: oh yeah sure that's totally what I was thinking about

We won and we finally get some money!!

How do you spell victory? With money signs

I half want Chahut to give me a hug and half don't because giant murder clown, Azdaja is a giant dork, and I love them both!!

#now i wanna meet tegiri and complete the anime nerd set #hiveswap #friendsim #friendsim spoilers #chahut maenad #azdaja knelax

[lizbid33]

Thor: Ragnarok

welcome to another movie masterpost by me, and holy SHIT where do i begin. Let it be known that Loki has me fucking WHIPPED and Tom Hiddleston is a terrific actor

when he kept turning in the opening scene 

when he drops Mjölnir into that fire things’ mouth (i feel like that technique should’ve been used more often)

the music???? amazing

im really glad marvel is sorta going back to old classic rock songs and bright colors for their movies like it’s really great

Matthew fucking Damon???? Luke fucking Hemsworth???? amazing

I love how Thor just fuckin yeets his hammer to prove it’s Loki like how Extra

“You had one job. Just the one!”

their outfits when they get to earth are amazing those were some Looks™ 

“I’m not a witch.”   “Oh, really? Then why did you dress like one?”

I love Stephen Strange with all my heart

“I HAVE BEEN FALLING...FOR THIRTY MINUTES”

the way he fell out of the portal

the way Loki looks at Odin when he says “my sons” and “i love you” like  f u c k  i am capital d Dying

when they change their outfits 

Hela is amazing 

her outfit was dope

but get her out of those lil heels i still see that (i’m just salty about superwomen having heels)

the way she just fuckin shatters Mjölnir with so little effort 

“I’m just a janitor”

the way Hela like fell/flipped into the tomb thing was so dope

Fenris is a lorge boy but a good boy nontheless 

those arm gun things that Valkyrie had were pretty cool

Jeff Goldblum is an amazing actor and the Grandmaster is such a cool character

“Trash.”    “Were you just waiting to call her that? That doesn’t even start with a B.”

pretty much every interaction btw the Grandmaster and Topaz was hilarious

how excited Thor was when he saw Loki in the grandmaster’s place

“I pardon you....from life.”

That little shimmy the grandmaster does when he’s eyeballing Loki

i know i overexaggerate everything that i say both in real life and on this site but literally everything that came out of Korg’s mouth made me laugh my fucking ass off including:

“Oh yeah, it’s like a circle...but like, a freaky circle.”

“Piss off, ghost!”

“Hey man.”

“Oh my god, the hammer pulled you off?”

“Guys can we please clean the weapons off after your fight?”

i found out that the movie did like a Make-a-Wish thing and this kid was chillin with Chris Hemsworth and was like “Yeah it’d be funny if when you saw Hulk you were like ‘he’s a friend from work’” and Chris was like damn good idea bro and just went with it

Heimdall is a badass and him fighting was crazy cool to watch

I love Valkyrie’s relationship with Hulk 

when Thor throws the ball thing at the window and it comes back and hits him, then he jumps up and does that little punch

the Loki/Valkyrie fight scene

the flashback to when Hela and the valkyries fought was so fucking awesome i got chills when they all came riding in

“Welcome, strongest Avenger.”    “hh, what?”

i really love @markruffalo and his acting so im gonna tag him in it so he can maybe see this and know that i love him

“the sun is going down, it’s getting low, the sun is low,”

“Tony wears his pants so...tight.”

the way Loki says “surpriiise.”

the whole story where Loki turns into a snake to scare and then stab Thor was so fucking funny

i also found out that there were so many iterations of that story like im pretty sure Chris Hemsworth changed it every time he did that scene

im also like 60% sure that Tom Hiddlestone’s laugh in that scene was real and they just left it in

man just that whole elevator scene, like Loki just really loves his bro (also great acting on Chris and Tom’s part)

“We’re not doing get help.”     ...     “Get help!”

alternatively: this bitch empty YEET

the biggest sigh left my body when Loki tried to turn Thor in like binch,,,,give it a rest just be kind to ur bro

the way Bruce fell out of the ship

that absolute power walk by Valkyrie oh my god 

as soon as Thor landed on the bridge with his lightning powers i nutted

Loki fighting will always be fucking A1 spectacular like wow

there’s a meme somewhere on tumblr that’s like “me when i see Loki looking at the Tesseract” and then its that pic of Michael Scott with the “[softly]: don’t” caption and bitch if that ain’t me

i was robbed of that hug scene:

Thor: “If you were here i might actually hug you.” 

Loki: *catches the thing*

Loki: “I’m here.”

Me: “HUG HIM”

Thor’s dorky little wave to the Asgardians at the end

wow that was really long but i just rly like this movie and will probably see it 8 more times

#thor ragnarok #thor #loki #korg #marvel #valkyrie #tessa thompson #chris hemsworth #tom hiddleston #mcu #marvel movies #grandmaster #taiki waititi #hulk #avengers #bruce banner #mark ruffalo #thor: ragnarok #infinity war #infinity stones #thanos #hela #cate blanchett #idris elba #heimdall #skurge #odin #asgard #dr strange #liz does movies

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Giant-Size Fantastic Four #2

Tues Jul 30 2019 [11:12 PM] Wack'd: Say hello to our old friend John Buscema! He'll be our guest artist this evening [11:12 PM] Bocaj: hi john [11:13 PM] Umbramatic: hi [11:13 PM] Wack'd: So this issue, Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Medusa are test-flying a ship for NASA, which is awfully nice of them [11:13 PM] Wack'd: Honestly, if the MCU wants to continue to downplay the NY-centrism of the comics, they could do worse than putting the Four in Florida [11:13 PM] Wack'd: Just a thought [11:14 PM] Umbramatic: fantastic four go to Disney World [11:14 PM] Wack'd: Anyway, they crash. Sorry NASA! [11:15 PM] Wack'd: I'm gonna love this, aren't I

[11:15 PM] Wack'd: Oh, okay! We're not doing "evil primitives", we're doing time travel [11:17 PM] Wack'd: Generally I like Buscema's work but I can't get behind Watcher going from a big-headed alien to just a really large guy

[11:17 PM] Bocaj: Uatu (the Watcher) does look wrong when he's not a baby headed man [11:17 PM] Umbramatic: lorge [11:17 PM] Mousa The 14: Johnny kinda looks like Aquaman here and it’s weirding me out [11:17 PM] maxwellelvis: Oh yeah, he's gonna stay as just a big fat-faced guy for a looooong time [11:18 PM] maxwellelvis: I think as far as the Dark Phoenix Saga, at least [11:18 PM] Wack'd: Oh hey Johnny's back to his 60s hair, here! [11:18 PM] Wack'd: I guess Buscema either forgot he changed it or decide he didn't like the new look [11:19 PM] Mousa The 14: The world has... is this that point in Marvel history where some dude turned back the world to Conan the Barbarian times specifically to screw with Spider-man or are we not there yet [11:20 PM] Wack'd: This is apparently a different incident. Someone broke into the Baxter Building and stole the time machine the Fantastic Four stole from Dr. Doom but that he's occasionally stolen back from them [11:21 PM] Wack'd: First stop: Reed and Johnny go to the Revolutionary War! [11:21 PM] maxwellelvis: Why doesn't either Reed or Victor put an alarm on that thing? [11:22 PM] Wack'd: Oh, you know how it is. If someone hits it or dents it or you hit the wrong button, sure, the alarm goes off. But somehow it never works when someone steals it [11:23 PM] Wack'd: Anyway George Washington has been captured by redcoats! [11:24 PM] Wack'd: Huh! Not a Ben Franklin quote you see a lot these--oh my god

[11:24 PM] Wack'd: benjamin franklin [11:24 PM] Wack'd: franklin benjamin (richards) [11:24 PM] Wack'd: what a remarkably subtle joke [11:27 PM] Wack'd: ...surely stopping the impoverishment of thousands of people is an objective good? Eh, whatever

[11:27 PM] Wack'd: The time gizmo also makes Ben human again for the duration [11:28 PM] Wack'd: To make stealth easier [11:28 PM] Wack'd: Oh good. At least there's some kind of rationale

[11:29 PM] Wack'd: WHAT?!?

[11:31 PM] Mousa The 14: Willie! [11:31 PM] Wack'd: Anyway after a brief fight with gangsters and Ben learning to use manual transmission, they successfully extract Willie to--

[11:32 PM] Wack'd: Unfortunately, though, it's not the Watcher who brought them here, but--

[11:33 PM] Wack'd: He seems fun [11:33 PM] maxwellelvis: A pale imitation of Eternity dressed like Ymir [11:34 PM] Wack'd: Anyway, he compelled Willie to steal the time machine in the hopes that the paradoxes he created would destroy time [11:34 PM] Wack'd: Hey, have you ever asked "how would Ben Grimm age?" You'll wish you hadn't!

[11:36 PM] Umbramatic: oh [11:36 PM] Mousa The 14: Yikes [11:36 PM] Umbramatic: play-doh [11:36 PM] Mousa The 14: Well.. at least we know there’s skin under there [11:36 PM] Wack'd: Is there? [11:36 PM] Wack'd: He's got a usual rock-line across his stomach [11:36 PM] Wack'd: And on his face [11:37 PM] Wack'd: I assumed he was eroding [11:37 PM] Mousa The 14: Well not ALL the rock came off [11:37 PM] Mousa The 14: Well I don’t know, I kinda figured it was all just sort of sagging and falling off with age and time [11:38 PM] Wack'd: Let's say the art is ambiguous and at least agree, no matter what's happening there, it's horrifying [11:38 PM] Mousa The 14: Oh of course, it’s absolutely awful [11:38 PM] Wack'd: Anyway Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Medusa devise a plan to trip Tempus which causes him to shatter into a million pieces [11:39 PM] Mousa The 14: ... [11:39 PM] Mousa The 14: It can’t possibly be that simple or dumb sounding [11:39 PM] Wack'd:

[11:40 PM] maxwellelvis: They literally just run up to him and push him over [11:40 PM] Umbramatic: Man they ought to really have some less emotionally fragile villains [11:40 PM] Wack'd: Anyway this causes Dali-land to collapse [11:40 PM] Wack'd: And the Watcher returns them to the Baxter Building [11:41 PM] Wack'd: Sorry NASA! [11:41 PM] Mousa The 14: Okay, so it can possibly be that simple or dumb sounding [11:41 PM] Wack'd: Poor Willie

[11:42 PM] Wack'd: What is it with Giant-Size and "everyone laughs" endings?

[11:44 PM] Mousa The 14: Are the Giant Sized series meant to be just jaunty side stories? [11:44 PM] Wack'd: I guess? [11:45 PM] Wack'd: I mean, it'll be another few decades before you can just casually launch a second Marvel book and have it leave any real impact on the first [11:45 PM] Mousa The 14: True [11:46 PM] Mousa The 14: Speaking of a decade and said stories leaving an impact, Not the 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse, he’s still got a decade to exist. [11:46 PM] maxwellelvis: True. Ben has his own solo book and it has its own recurring supporting cast (Or at least it does whenever Steve Gerber has the pen) and I've not once seen Wun-Darr, Namorita, or Namoriat's Roommate Whose Name I Can't Remember. Not a single panel. [11:47 PM] Mousa The 14: And Apocalypse was an X Factor villain.

#1974 #Gerry Conway #John Buscema #The Main Book