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catbeeisafraid · 8 days

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on aziraphale

um- hi, spoilers- other people may already be saying this but I don’t think that this has been said just yet- not substantially, I’m not sure what I’m saying I have been standing for 7 hours this is life now.

I was thinking about Aziraphale and his attitude towards Crowley and something began to occur to me about their relationship that I don’t really see being recognized, I was reading a thread about the rejection and how people thought Crowley had taken it; most replies consisted of “Oh he’s hurt but knows Az loves him and is waiting it out” which is probably perfectly reasonable but I felt there was something that was not being addressed.

Aziraphale likes Crowley, he probably loves him, (though I really do not think he has the maturity to have recognized that, considering the “I’ll forgive you” thing) he at the very very least likes him and his company and feels that he is good intentioned, but he is unbelievably prejudiced against him for being a demon. He’s ok with being friends because he feels that Crowley is abnormally good (which isn’t untrue) (and because they both like earth which is- the only reason they interact for like 20,000 years) but he won’t accept that part of him- Crowley is not fond of angels like at all but he does not hate Aziraphale for being one- it is just what he is and that’s fine- it’s not a thing that needs to be fixed or changed- it makes him, him. For Aziraphale their difference is a flaw, a mistake- and regardless of how many times he watches heaven be indifferent and even cruel to people and earth (which he loves) he manages to convince himself that heaven is still good and this new horror is just a little misunderstanding- hell is what’s bad. I think his desire to change Crowley had to be hurtful- for literally all of time Crowley has been helping him, saving him, and generally putting all of the work into a relationship that Azirophale; A- avoids, B- reams, or C- eventually caves to because Crowleys appeal must mean that he’s good even though he’s fallen which is like sooooooo dreaaddfuyllllllyyy unfortunateeeee…

I find it so frustrating, I absolutely understand it and why but I think or at least hope that it will be something that he needs to develop on in season three; this will probably not happen but I’d like to see the dynamic reverse in the sense that presumably after realizing “oh yeah, Gabriel dissented from Armageddon literally once and was almost factory reset, what might that mean for me?” And end up having to be the one who puts effort into fixing their relationship because he kind of like pushed it off a cliff and then accidentally set it on fire- this, is very unlikely though because I thought of it so oh well. I’m very interested in hearing what other people think also

Additionally I do not think that anyone else’s theory’s are Incorrect or stupid just that Aziraphale is and has been very hypocritical and prejudiced against Crowley which i wanted to address and hope is addressed if not simply an area of growth.

thank you- that all probably made no sense at all but I tried to get my thoughts across-

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codename-adler · 8 months

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You mean like a sudden rainstorm forces them together beneath the canopy? They look into each other’s eyes… and realize they were made for each other?

He saw it in a Richard Curtis film.

Ineffable husbands have been there, done that. Twice, actually.

And we all know by now, or at least assume, that these are the two moments sealing Crowley’s and Aziraphale’s fates, and their love for each other. That was the parallel, the metaphorical wings as canopies and Heavenly rains as God’s Ineffable Plan nudging them towards each other. So. Been there, done that. First part, Crowley’s vision of what love looks like, is completed.

Aziraphale’s, though… Not yet!

Well, not fully. Aziraphale did the ball, Ineffable Husbands did a dance, but what did Aziraphale say next, about his version of human love, according to his understanding of Jane Austen?

People would gather and do some formal dancing, and then realize they had misunderstood each other and were actually deeply in love.

We also all know by now that s2 is nothing but a big Pride & Prejudice scheme buried under many, many layers of religious trauma allegories, Queen lyrics and biblical icons. It’s still up in the air who the demon and the angel are actually modelling after; who’s Elizabeth Bennet, and who’s Mr. Darcy? Each could be both, I believe. As for myself, I’m leaning more towards Crowley as Darcy (and Pride) and Aziraphale as Lizzy (and Prejudice). Crowley has actually confessed his love and his desire to spend his eternal life with Aziraphale, in a very angsty and last-ditch-effort to keep his Angel by his side and to convince him of his true, honest feelings and intentions; just like Darcy did. Aziraphale, just like Lizzy, has rejected him in the most painful way, without confessing nor admitting any of his thoughts to Crowley, and I believe not even to himself. And he left Crowley alone and empty-handed, à la Miss Bennet.

But it’s not over yet! That’s the beauty of it! The final climax has yet to come! P&P doesn’t end at the rejection and separation scene!

Aziraphale’s vision of love, his love language if you will, has not been fulfilled, and nor has he grown enough to access it. Crowley has. He’s shed his pride and bared himself and his heart to Aziraphale, the final step for him to be the person the angel wishes to love and be loved by. Has Aziraphale gotten rid of his many and unbecoming prejudices? Have the Ineffable Husbands resolved every bit and word of miscommunication that transpired between them? No. No, they have not. A true, long-lasting, loving, stable and equal pairing cannot survive with only one of its half having matured and sacrificed. It cannot survive without proper understanding of one another.

The Austen love scheme is not complete. As it was intended.

Yes, there is Metatron the diabolical (is he really though? Just thinking thoughts here…), there are Extreme Sanctions and Book-of-Life-erasure-level threats, there is the case of Maggie and Nina’s humanity vs character-ness, there’s the Second Coming, and yaddi yaddi yaddi. But that’s all background stuff, isn’t? Those are just totally normal and common tropes you put your pairing through, right?

So what to expect for s3, what to hold onto so as not to drown our sorrows and despair into Coffee Theories? A formal dance. A "proper apology," as one could say, from one particularly wrong, prejudiced but cherished angel. A whole lot of honest communication and the truest of feelings. A deep bond of love, fully formed, safe, and strong as Hellfire and Holy Water. Forged through adversity, Heaven & Hell, Armageddidn’t, misplaced pride and unfounded prejudices.

It ain’t over til Neil Gaiman says it’s over.

It ain’t over til Michael Sheen says it’s over.

It ain’t over til David Tennant says it’s over.

It ain’t over til Jane Austen says it’s over.

Oh, Aziraphale dear, won’t you do the little dance?

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