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[fellowrat]

Fishuary 2024: Day 14 - Fictional fish @fish-daily

Portrait of @bacchanalium's Cat as a Stingray

#cats #fishuary2024 #bacchanalium #crayon #gift / fan art

[oleworm]

There was this article saying that the reason that The Lord of the Rings was comforting to so many women was that the good guys are actually good, but I think there is more to it than that.

I think it's more like you don't feel that any of the characters would sexually assault you or anyone else, and I think that, to make a comparison, the same thing applies to The Terror (2018), that has a large cast of men not all of whom happen to be good people. I don't know if they've mentioned it in an interview before, but it comes across as very intentional that the show-runners didn't want this specific fear to linger on anyone's mind so that they could focus on the themes instead. This is a story about European explorers, but they went out of their way to show that Silna was not going to be sexually assaulted by the men, and that if there was a somewhat amoral character in the person of Cornelius Hickey he could have many faults but was decidedly not a rapist. (There is a scene of sexualised public humiliation, but it is clear that there will be nothing more, in that sense, after it is finished.)

It really does make a lot of sense that so many women and girls feel comfortable playing with this setting and characters. The horrible things, such as the cannibalism and the imperialism, are those that you already expect, and it never surprises you with having a sympathetic character either becoming or always having been a sexual aggressor of some kind, or someone who thinks this sort of thing is fine. It's like finding out halfway through the book that your favourite character, or rather the author is racist--a thing that also happens. Because there are ways to write about a thing in which you can tell the author had an intention, and there are ways in which it just looks like their attitudes are bleeding through without much reflection.

There are reasons for certain themes to appear, &c, and I'm not telling anyone how to write their book. I'm connecting two dots about why women like The Lord of the Rings and The Terror.

#signing out after this #but I had to tell someone other than @bacchanalium #ole blog

[augustdementhe]

HI HELLO I WISH TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR LADY IN RED WITH ALL THE COWRIES, SHE LOOKS AMAZING AF

Oh gosh! Well that's all due to the artist, haha. She's not any character of mine even, Bacchanalium just happened to be doing a 1,000 follower giveaway, and I unwittingly won!

I was asked what I'd like to be drawn, and I said 'Here's some Afrogoth stuff, would you draw me a lady?'

Then BAM! A lady!

Very satisfying win.

#At least I THINK that's the story...I might be mashing two things together #But anyway I was lucky enough to have yet another amazing talent draw something for me just out of kindness

[inkonfreshnewpaper]

Tag Game! (Two for Two in a week! Saved for later so I'd have something different to write about) (Saved it for so long I've got a ton to write about)

Tagged by @bacchanalium

3) Last song: Love Me Like You Used To - Lord Huron. It hits in that good melancholy country mood for me.

4) Last film: Portrait of a Girl on Fire. I'm so behind on essential queer films, so I finally got around to watching it. Honestly, surprised at the lack of music in movie. It's saved for a moment at the end that absolutely hit. Bit slow, but in a good way. Seven Samurai. It's Seven Samurai. It's a good movie. I don't have much to say other than, movie good. Wasn't expecting Mifune's character to be as feral as he was, or how affecting the movie was. The Thing. It's The Thing, I wanna be you. The first time I saw it was Halloween 2020 during my horror movie marathon. This time I watched it in my university's movie theatre with a nearly full audience. People gasped during Child's "Then we're wrong" line delivery and laughed a bunch throughout. Seeing it on the big screen was incredible. 10/10. The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (2022). This was a weird one. Gonna have to actually post my thoughts on it because I'm still chewing on it. It focuses entirely on Utterson, but the adaption decides to put him through a negative character arc. Does it work? Stay tuned.

5) Currently reading: The Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (finished it but at what cost). It wasn't very good. I got YA vibes from the character descriptions in the how they focus exclusively on eye and hair colour. Pacing was all over the place. Would spend way too long in one scene, way too short in another. The characters felt way too modern in a supposed fantasy world, mostly due to the dialogue. (Protag's best friend called her and her love interest 'slow burn' and I had to put the book down for a minute after that). The magic system felt like an excuse to get the main couple together and nothing else. That's my biggest critique of the novel. Everything just feels paper thin in this world. Things are set up, but resolved so quickly it doesn't feel satisfying. The school is set up as super dangerous and everyone is trying to kill each other 24/7, and the protag makes a best friend first day and they stay best friends. And further confirmation that no one knows how to write enemies-to-lovers, just 'didn't like you at the start'. Love interest says he loved her since he first saw her. WEAK. Why'd I read it? A bookstore clerk recommended it, I was on the library wait list for months. I needed to dissect this book thoroughly to justify me reading it. I'm also reading The Butterfly Collector by Tea Cooper. It's an okay mystery set in 1920s Australia. Garden of Earth Bodies by Sally Oliver. I'm compelled. It's horror-lite about grief, but the twist hasn't happened yet, so who's to say if it's good yet. Definitely reads as a debut novel - very dramatic prose, feels like it's trying too hard to grab my attention. It's meh so far, but I want to see where it goes.

6) Currently watching: Currently Delicious in Dungeon as it comes out. Studio Trigger is doing such a good job with the adaptation. I'm also watching Revue Starlight, which was way better than I was expecting. Episode 8 launched Hikari to all time favourite characters for me. Haven't finished it yet.

7) Currently consuming: Some tea.

8) Currently craving: Nice and full from dinner with Delicious in Dungeon. No better way to spend a Thursday night.

Tagging: @thefollow-spot, @whoawhataconcept, @fate-motif, @ishmaels, @flubz, @scootbloop, @dying-suffering-french-stalkers, @kafkastan, @sacrerouges, @violasmirabiles, @owlmylove

[avrelia]

I posted 2,396 times in 2022

118 posts created (5%)

2,278 posts reblogged (95%)

Blogs I reblogged the most:

@silvain-shadows

@virologistandpotato

@ninolovers

@sdwolfpup

@femmedplume

I tagged 1,853 of my posts in 2022

Only 23% of my posts had no tags

#atla - 413 posts

#atla mai - 182 posts

#zuko - 168 posts

#atla maiko - 94 posts

#art - 87 posts

#avatar the last airbender - 81 posts

#katara - 74 posts

#aang - 68 posts

#dracula daily - 62 posts

#stranger things - 56 posts

Longest Tag: 125 characters

#i am voting for democrats ever since becoming us citizen but what would it take them to actually accomplish something useful?

My Top Posts in 2022:

#5

Beach Wars

So, The Free Comic Book Day happened and I have one. It is not a very exciting offering, and, it seems, it is unfinished, but really< I am quite happy with it.

Because this is exactly what I want from Atla and TLoK comic stories: characters are having silly fun. In this case, elderly matriarchs Katara and Toph relaxing on a beach together and pulling their descendants and innocent bystander Avatars into their prank war. Bring it on!

Story and Art by Meredith McClaren

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92 notes - Posted May 11, 2022

#4

I was tagged by @bacchanalium

Favorite color: Blue, specifically this shade

#0000FF

Currently reading: I have just finished Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao, the book that is about as intense, insane and amazing fun as I was lead to believe. Before that I re-read Piranesi by Susanna Clarke, which was my favorite read of 2021, and a very satisfying re-read now. And now I am looking intensely at How Story Works by Lani Diane Rich, hoping to read it next.

Last Song: Six Feet Under by Kissin’ Dynamite, because I’ve just watched the third episode of the Peacemaker, and this song kicked me in some sensitive place, and I had to listen to it several times to get this song out of my brain.

Last Series: I’ve just finished the Expanse, the last season and everything. I probably should start the books, but these days long book series scare me.

Sweet, savory or spicy: depends on a mood and circumstances. Usually, I prefer savory and a bit sour. But with my tea I would have something sweet or nothing at all.

Currently working on: Several unfinished fics, several unfinished original stories. Also I am trying to delete all the unnecessary and double photos I have collected over the past… fifteen years?

Tagging: @attackfish, @robb-stark, @yen-yen282, @yogi-bogey-box, @idkmybffgill, @poolsidescientist, @krastbannert, @ljf613, @avayarising, @catraboobwindow, @virologistandpotato, and of course anyone who wants to do it

107 notes - Posted January 21, 2022

#3

133 notes - Posted August 28, 2022

#2

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252 notes - Posted February 15, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

One moment that I think is underappreciated in Mai and Zuko relationship is their playfulness with each other. We see it in the picnic scene, and in the Mai’s house scene, and in the reunion scene. They are so different from their usual state, like they enter a happy bubble when they are together, when they can finally relax and don’t think about that pesky reality and its problems, and just be carefree.

And sure enough it doesn’t work for long, because reality is there, and its problems intrude quite rudely, often literally, personified by Azula, but their happy bubble is real, too.

They don’t pretend being anyone else, just themselves that no one else can see. So the possibility is there, for Mai and Zuko, when they manage to integrate all the different parts of themselves and deal with the reality, and to communicate better, to keep that playfulness not as an illusion, or a throwback to their childhood, but a part of their adult relationship. So that’s how I prefer to write them.

300 notes - Posted April 14, 2022

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[glorioustidalwavedefendor]

I was tagged by the very kind and extremely talented @bacchanalium

Thank you <3

1) Three non-romantic duos: Nanny Ogg and Granny Wetherwax XD … Nobby and Colon … come on … one non Discworld, I can do this … ahm … Calvin and Hobbes

2) A ship that might surprise others: Thaddeus Thatch and Preston B. Whitmore

I randomly stumbled over a collection of fics and they where very convincing … they where also written hilarious

If you have nothing else to do, give them a read

3) Last song: I have the radio on in the background so … wait … Arthur Baker & The Backbeat Disciples - The Message Is Love

4) Last film: ahm … good question … do Youtube essays count? In that case it was: „The Decaying Monomyth of Star Wars“ by the wonderful and brilliant Jessie Gender et al

It‘s almost 6 hours long, but it was definitely time well spend …

The realization of: It is the only story they tell because it is the only story they know, because it is the only they have ever heard

Is still haunting me

5) Currently reading: I got a collection of poems for Christmas, and I will read that wen I finally have my head screwed on correctly again …

6) Currently watching: Nothing … helped along by the fact that my Sister changed her Netflix Password and always changes the subject wen I ask her *shrug* means I don‘t have to give her little „thank you‘s“ anymore … safes me money …

7) Currently consuming: Nothing. My desk and liquids shall never meet. I am to clumsy for that XD

8) Currently craving: Something to elevate this bone deep exhaustion … this is beyond sleep .. beyond coffee … someone please come and resurrect me XD

Tagging:

I never tag anyone who wants to play (my secret talent XD) so EVERYONE <3

If you want to play, feel tagged :-)

#asks #questions #answers

[reshiiii]

Okay, I got tagged by @bacchanalium (thank you!!), so here we go!

Questions and tag 9 ppl you want to catch up with/get to know better.

Three relationships:

Uhhhh niche niche and platonic relationships!

Rogan and Goryvlad from the book series Čierny Rogan (Black Rogan) and Černokňažník. Listen. It's just. So good. So funny. So not pure, the only thing pure here is their bromance. Cheers me up everytime.

While we're here: Rogan and Morena, the goddess of winter and death. Hooooo boi this is one funky connection, made me discover and realize ✨things✨. But also very cold, in the best way possible. Like the freezing, biting winter air that paints and burns your cheeks. Very nice, very interesting. (just like Mirena and Chors, except this one is special to me, if a bit oversexualized)

And last, but not least - Joza and Hanule from the book Jozova Hanule (movie adaptation Želary, pls go watch it.). Listen. I am a slut for both a good arranged marriage trope and good war-time-set stories (= everyday life of the ordinary). This is both. It could have gone so wrong, but it's so tender, so so tender and just..... Two people living - trying to live - together as a husband and wife, not knowing how to. When he's carefully picking the thorns from her legs, WHEN HE GETS BACK AT THAT FUCKER AND breaks his arm. Oof. Oooooooffffffff. "Můžu na tebe šahat?" How they both try!!!!! They try!!!! And that's beautiful. Their nonsensical conversations.... It's just. It is very special to me for many reasons and I truly recommend reading/watching it.

Ohhhhh a tá termoska a lampa😭😭😭😭

Last song:

Zlatohlav by Tomáš Kočko (and Orchester)

Love it, it's so good, tho my mom said it sounds like it's from Limonádový Joe (and I mean...... MÁM DIIIAAADEEEEEEEEM)

Last movie:

Legenda o Lietajúcom Cypriánovi (Legend of the Flying Monk, Cyprián).

Ugh. It's been years since I've seen it and I forgot some plot points, so it slapped harder than Marko Igonda facepalming into mud.

Currently watching:

Last Kingdom (tho I'm not sure I will finish it) and Exandria Unlimited (this, I will try bc so far I am enjoying those idiots).

Currently reading:

The Color of Magic by sir Terry Pratchett

It's nice, funny, I wanted to read something lighthearted for a change.

Once again, thank you for tagging me, sorry for only answering now, I was travelling home.

Tagging (feel free to ignore): @szappan, @moonwich, @sapphic-hobbit, @zraloci-cpr, @sneez, @fablesdelajoie, @fabien-euskadi, @pazatko and finally, @worm-bus.

Take care!!!!

#tagged #bacchanalium #Oh this was actually kinda fun!! #Až na tú štikútku v posteli

[fellowrat]

A many-limbed shrimp maid! A collaboration with @bacchanalium​

This is my first time participating in Mermay, turns out all I needed was a little nudging!

#mermay #mermaid #shrimp #creature #fantasy #bacchanalium #digital

[oleworm]

A bit late since we're already a quarter into the year, but I wanted to do this one anyway.

@sifilide tagged me to list my 9 favourite books of 2023 or my to-read list for 2024. I'll do the to-read list first and name 9 favourites in the reblog.

The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov

The Italian Boy: Murder and Graverobbing in 1830s London by Sarah Wise

Fingersmith by Sarah Waters

Historia marítima del Perú: Época prehispánica by Hermann Buse de la Guerra

Mrs. Caliban by Rachel Ingalls

Dersu Uzala by Vladimir Arseniev

Huaco retrato by Gabriela Wiener

Los perros hambrientos by Ciro Alegría

Ali and Nino by Kurban Said

Tagging @bacchanalium, @plantpretender, @osmanthusoolong, @trainspotting1992, @chicago-geniza, @strigops, @myfavoritedemons, @panikpanikpanik, @bezdomnyyy and @bogfox if anyone wants to do it!

#tag games #ole books #ole blog

[lebossuarchive-blog]

bacchanalium replied to your post: “guys i…i dont…know how to explain to someone…that casting a white...”:

Ehm she is a green-eyed gypsy woman in Disney adaptation, and Mediterranean-looking french girl in the book. Why is it wrong for American white girl to play her? Have you ever met a European gypsy in your life? I bet those who complain about it would never in their life differentiate between magyarok gypsy, roma, moldovan or turk.

aaaand im done here!

#bacchanalium

[notasapleasure]

Tagged by @bacchanalium - thanks my friend!

Favorite colours: today I'm finding it hard to pick, they're all beautiful. But I'll usually default to British racing green, a good rich purple, and, more and more these days, golden-orange (good lord, Jo! I hear you say, When did that become a colour you loved instead of one that you didn't know how to appreciate? Well, I think it had something to do with a film I watched).

Currently reading: Working my way through 'The Spectral Arctic' by Shane McCorristine, which isn't written in the most engaging manner - it's not a published thesis, though it sure reads like one - but you can't keep a good subject down. Also dipping in and out of 'Antiemetic for Homesickness', a poetry collection by Romalyn Ante all about the sense of dislocation immigration leaves in you, and family, and memories of home, and the kinds of things that keep us going through long work days and difficult news. Still working my way through a collection of Georgian poems I'm trying to translate, which I absolutely adore, but it's challenging - some days I feel I have a good grasp of things, and other days I have to look up every word and it still doesn't make sense. Also now reading a novel by Jemal Karchxadze for homework.

Last Song: I can't get 'Stealing Cars' by Nadine Shah out of my head at the moment.

Last Series: I'm watching Green Planet and just finished Monty Don's Adriatic Gardens. They're good knitting TV - lots of 'man, nature is weird' moments, lots of 'whoa nature is cool' and lots of moments of the presenters having a Jolly Good Time (Sir David Attenborough poking exploding seedheads with a stick in Cambridge Botanic Gardens! Monty Don riding around a Greek estate on a golf buggy with a friendly doggy guide!). Never let it be said that I don't live a rock'n'roll lifestyle. I really need to get back into watching ჩემი ცოლის დაქალები or შუა ქალაქი though, my listening is like...A1/2 compared to B2 reading.

Oh yes! I also watched all of Around the World in 80 Days. It was very Extra(TM), but enjoyable, silly fun. I would absolutely watch the main trio go giant squid hunting if they make another series.

Sweet, savory or spicy: Savoury for preference, and spicy is good (spicy as in, it can be hot so long as it tastes of something other than pain). I'm a cheese and salt fiend before I'm a dessert fiend though, but I'm more in the habit of making cake and stuff at home these days and so get more of a sweet fix than I used to - it always tastes better homemade (with my mum's recipes), tbh.

Currently working on: Inchoate, the ATWD fic that Just Won't End. It's over 300k. Will it make 400k? I kind of hope not. I want to be able to give the characters closure. Translations of Andro's poems - rough, rough drafts on my first read and a couple I'm trying to polish up to enter into competitions. Translations for class, more Vano and Niko. My own poems(!??) for a course I signed up to that I thought was poetry analysis not...poetry composition. Knitting snoods for the dogs (shush we're going on holiday to the North in March, it will be cold for their silly houndy ears). I really, *really*, REALLY need to start reading those books I'm meant to be reviewing. Uhhh. I think that's it. For now.

Tagging: whoever wants to! But giving a non-obligatory prod to @erinaceina @notfromcold @stripedroseandsketchpads @jimtheviking @donnaimmaculata @sailorsally @sensiteave @kheldara @digitaleruckus @bellaroles

#meme #currently doing meme #tag meme #haven't done one of these in ages!

[avrelia]

I was tagged by @bacchanalium

Favorite color: Blue, specifically this shade

#0000FF

Currently reading: I have just finished Iron Widow by Xiran Jay Zhao, the book that is about as intense, insane and amazing fun as I was lead to believe. Before that I re-read Piranesi by Susanna Clarke, which was my favorite read of 2021, and a very satisfying re-read now. And now I am looking intensely at How Story Works by Lani Diane Rich, hoping to read it next.

Last Song: Six Feet Under by Kissin’ Dynamite, because I’ve just watched the third episode of the Peacemaker, and this song kicked me in some sensitive place, and I had to listen to it several times to get this song out of my brain.

Last Series: I’ve just finished the Expanse, the last season and everything. I probably should start the books, but these days long book series scare me.

Sweet, savory or spicy: depends on a mood and circumstances. Usually, I prefer savory and a bit sour. But with my tea I would have something sweet or nothing at all.

Currently working on: Several unfinished fics, several unfinished original stories. Also I am trying to delete all the unnecessary and double photos I have collected over the past… fifteen years?

Tagging: @attackfish, @robb-stark, @yen-yen282, @yogi-bogey-box, @idkmybffgill, @poolsidescientist, @krastbannert, @ljf613, @avayarising, @catraboobwindow, @virologistandpotato, and of course anyone who wants to do it

#meme

[glorioustidalwavedefendor]

I was as tagged by the very lovely and insanely talented @bacchanalium

Thank you very much <3

Favorite colours:

So many!

There are so many great colors!

SO like … all those rainbow effect colors, that like have a different hue depending on the angle of the light? <3

But also like blue <3

And black on blue <3

And black <3

And Oh, jewel tones, love me some jewel tones, preferably on velvet <3

For rooms I like white and empty, I find that very calming

And for raincoats I love yellow, it’s so happy and also you can see it very well on a grey morning XD

And umbrellas should be rainbow colored <3

Currently reading:

I am not really reading anything currently .. I have a folder of Franklin papers on my desk that I want to read … does that count? XD

I also have a whole heap of books (mostly Franklin related XD) that I want to read …

Last Song:

Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis

Because bacchanalium mentioned it and I remembered that I really like it XD so I went to check it out again. It is very pretty <3

I also totally dig “Videte miraculum” by Thomas Tallis … I have a thing for big dramatic music, that’s why i really like Movie soundtracks XD

My music taste is also rather … you could call it coarse, because I am Dyslexic and apparently that means that my brain doesn‘t quiet get what a Rhythm is XD

Explains why I never quiet could wrap my brain around poems XD

Last Series:

The Witcher season 2 XD

Sweet, savory or spicy:

Yes. <3

Although I am less in to sweet stuff the I used to be XD

Currently working on:

One day at a time XD

My secret talent is tagging people who either already have been tagged or don‘t want to be tagged, so … everyone is welcome :-) Feel tagged <3

[lost-forest-heart]

I've been tagged by @oleworm and @bacchanalium let's see if I can do this correctly.

Favorite Colors: The midnight black of the night sky between the stars, blood red like rose petals, and the vibrant green of moss glittering with dew on a misty morning.

Currently Reading: I'm reading several books at the moment as I have the attention span of a goldfish cracker, so in no particular order: The Orphan's Tales: In The Night Garden by Catherynne M. Valente, have yet to finish it. One of Emily Rodda's Deltora Quest books with my sister, I can't recall which one, but we're on the second arc. Stardust by Neil Gaiman. And last but not least, rereading Deathless by Catherynne M. Valente.

Last Song: The Calling by The Amazing Devil.

Last Series: The Witcher.

Sweet, savory, or spicy: Sweet! If I have the choice to add sweetness to a dish, be that a loaf of bread, eggs, or stir-fried mushrooms, I will try.

Currently working on: Several sketches and worldbuilding for my project currently dubbed The Red Jackal, I've been jumping between things lately tbh.

Tagging: @saran-wrapped @harleyquinn78910 @vivisecti0n @inesko3 @faequeengwenhwyvar @voidigrade @beastofwant @kisserofwounds

#tag game #this was fun #thank you both for tagging me!

[siryouarebeingmocked]

bacchanalium

Some dude in 2020: You should not judge a historical figure, a man from the past, by the modern ethics! He was a product of his time. 500 years ago his actions were completely normal! It’s present-ism, we can’t judge… bla-bla-bla…

People from 500 years ago: Oh my, this guy is such a bastard, a genocidal butcher, a total piece of garbage. Let’s keep records of this douche so people from the future shall hate him too.

explorerrowan:

Columbus’s crew were writing about what a genocidal monster he was. There were mutinies and uprisings by his crews and colonists constantly. If his contemporaries were willing to risk the ire of the queen of Spain to oppose him, we have every right to call him out on it too.

booksandpetrichor:

My fave professor always says “there have always been antiracist people doing antiracist work”. So yeah, I can hold historical peeps to a higher standard because there were good, ethical people who knew better

I just want to pause and point out the irony. People who use the label “anti-racist” often act like you can only oppose racism if you call yourself “anti-racist” and/or are Woke.

But this person is using the literal meaning so they can take credit for anyone else who opposed racism (cf “Antifa”).

Also, self-proclaimed “anti-racists” often express racist views. 

odinsblog:

Saying “you can’t judge the founding fathers on slavery” because “they didn’t know any better” or “that’s just how it was back then” is a cop out. It’s a standard whitewash that is still used to excuse racists today.

And I can promise you that there absolutely positively were people back then who knew slavery was wrong, and voiced their opinion that slavery was evil. Starting with the slaves themselves.

And if the words of the slaves somehow isn’t good enough, then listen to what one of the founding fathers had to say about the evils of slavery: (x)

Saying people didn’t know any better is whitewashing history, and perpetuating a false image of white purity and innocence. Slavers knew exactly what they were doing. All in the name of free labor and profit. The exploitive nature of capitalism hasn’t changed very much. I’ll bet 100 years from now people will argue that Jeff Bezos didn’t know he was risking the lives of his employees in the middle of a pandemic. Because “times were different back then.”

So yeah, people who insist that “times were just different back then” are racism apologists, whether they realize it or not. That worn out excuse is as old as slavery itself. Call those fuckers out.

funereal-disease:

There have always been people working for the rights and dignity of the marginalized, yes. It’s important to remember that historical people are not a monolith of evil. But that’s not a rebuttal to “they were a product of their time”, because the “product of their time” line is about the Overton window of practices at any given time, not about whether every single individual practiced any given thing.

For example, while in 2020 there are many people aware of the abuses in sweatshops, and many brands that make a conscious effort to avoid sweatshop manufacturing, it’s still socially acceptable to support brands known to use sweatshop labor. Wearing a shirt with with a “made in Vietnam” tag won’t get you booed and shunned. This is what “product of their time” means: not that there weren’t people opposing any given atrocity, but that said atrocity was normalized to an extent that it became background noise.

When your social milieu – not activists, but the actual people and institutions you engage with on a daily basis – doesn’t recognize something as wrong, it’s extremely difficult to transcend that. You’re a fish in water. Every single one of us reading this in 2020 is doing something that future generations will consider abhorrent. Dismissing the idea of being a product of your time means that you’ll be less capable of recognizing that. Historical people are not fundamentally different from any of us.

ferventfox:

> Every single one of us reading this in 2020 is doing something that future generations will consider abhorrent.

It bothers me so much that people don’t see this. I’m under thirty and I still can look back at moments during my own  lifetime and think “well that’s just how it was back then. People didn’t think about things the same way.” Like do people honestly think they’ve reached the pinnacle of wokeness? Extend the same understanding to people of the past that you’d want your descendants to have for you.

Bold of you to assume these folks will reproduce, @ferventfox​. 

Jokes aside, there’s often lots of people condemning Wokesters NOW, and they just double down. They are literally doing it in this thread. Ignoring the actual point about normalization.

Heck, even if people were condemning Bad Folks at the time, that doesn’t mean they did it to their faces, or they were even noticed, or they were actually good at making their arguments.

It's also interesting how the kind people who regularly say Western societies were systemically biased and it’s hard for (white, male, cishet, etc) people to notice their own bias suddenly act like resistance to the flow of history and culture would've been easy, that a few voices couldn't easily be lost in the tummult.

Not to mention ignoring how people take stances for a variety of reasons, like spite, or political convenience. Funny how they're equating their hashtags to people who took their lives and livelihoods and reputations on the line, when the Woke folks are the ones who try to take all that away from people for going against the Party.

And often succeed.

A mob of petty tyrants, convinced they're the plucky rebels.

Also, given >what I've seen of Odinsblog's stupidity in the past<, I'm not surprised to see them take Some AZQuote and Some Guy's Tweet as ironclad proof. I'd bet money they didn't even make sure it was real, much less look up the contexts.

#strawman #history #odinsblog #long #moving the goalposts #teamblocked #social justice

[fellowrat]

A new contingent of frogs from @bacchanalium and yours truly:

1) Autumn Leaf Gremlin for @gremlin-god​

2) Hairy Cave-dwelling Frog for @3owen3​

3) Avid Moonstriker for @greenlikealeaf​

4) Polytrichaceous Ground Frog for @peppoco​

5) White Fragaria Frog for @stdrawberries-lemonade​

Again, these are a part of @iivy-bee‘s frog project. Take good care of these voracious beasties! Be sure to mist and provide a high protein diet.

#frogs #frog project #amphibians #herps #animal art #bacchanalium #iivy-bee #digital