#asriel and night

[lisa972kdlz]

(The French version is below)

I just realized something.

About Dreamtale. Why we're so touched by this AU, and by the twins.

I just understood why Nightmare is so popular, why he touches us, why he touches ME, even though he's NOT my favorite character compared to Dream, Ace or Error.

Because we identify with his problems?

Yes.

Because we sympathize with his backstory?

Certainly.

Because we love drama and tentacles?

... Meh, for sure.

Because Dreamtale brings an extremely interesting symbolic theme about feelings?

Indeed.

Because fandom has developed the story of the two siblings in all its forms, and we've been taken on board without really realizing it by the fan creations - comics, drawings, fan fiction - that we discover as we go along?

Absolutly.

But that doesn't explain the intensity of this emotional involvement. Why did Nightmare inspire me so much, and still do today? Because very often MAIS CHIOTTE DE SES MORTS QU'IL ME SAOULE BORDEL DE SCROGNEUGNEU?! (Untranslatable in English, sorry QwQ)

And then I realised.

"The two siblings"...

Doesn't this story remind you of another?

I don't know why, but I get the impression that NOBODY makes this obvious parallel. At least I've never seen any comparative fanart or people talking about it.

The majority of Dreamtale fans are first and foremost Undertale fans, who went through the Gameplay, Let's play's, etc. before discovering the AU's. The majority have played or watched the game and discovered the Lore. Listened to the OSTs. Enjoyed the characters.

The majority witnessed the magnificent end of the Pacifist Timeline and the ensuing burst of tears.

And who, for God's sake, has never been touched by Asriel's fate? This child who died far too soon, who never meant any harm to anyone, who died because of a bad decision, then was resurrected as a sadistic, soulless being incapable of love?

Don't you think Night looks a lot like him? And that Dream is a cross between Frisk and Chara?

Not in personality, nor necessarily in the story, but in the way they touche the audience through their shared destiny.

Two siblings who love each other dearly are brutally separated by a quarrel in which one loses his life, transformed into a powerful, emotionless demon. The other sleeps for years before waking up, lost and confused... Then they embark on an adventure with a guide, discover the world that has evolved without them, grow up, meet new people, help, save.

And this co-dependent relationship. The demon is still a child at heart. He wants to play with his sibling, even to the point of committing atrocious acts to make them stay with him, even if it means taking their soul and killing them a million times over. But nostalgia takes hold of him again. Deep in his overpowering heart, he feels all the souls of the world bound together, he feels determination of monsters and humans, the love they have for each other. It's all too much for him. He succumbs to his feelings and bursts into tears. He apologizes. The two siblings reconcile.

It's the kind of story we'd all like to give Dream and Nightmare, isn't it?

We want to save Night.

But like Asriel, it's impossible. We all know by now that Corrupted Nightmare isn't Night, don't we? It's a revelation that hits us when we search a bit on the creator's Tumblr after reading the Prologue. The story leaves us no choice: he died five hundred years ago, and that remains unchanging. There is no hope.

He has to go. Become corrupt again. He has to die again. Because that's how it must be.

Yeah yeah, we love Sans in Undertale, he's pretty cool and the Multiverse revolves around him. But as soon as we play the game, it's Asriel we're crying for. For good reason, Dreamtale, the story that most closely resembles his tragedy, is one of the most popular universes. Is that chance? Or have we all unconsciously drawn the parallel?

Now, when I listen Hopes and Dreams, Save the World, His Theme, one part of me thinks of Asriel and Chara, the other part thinks of Dream and Nightmare.

It was to save Asriel that fans started developing parallel universes. And it's to save Night that we're repeating the process.

It would have been a lot cooler to put Dream and Nightmare in Chara and Asriel's bodies, I think.

And the HELL you imagine CORRUPTED NIGHTMARE WITH THE APPEARANCE OF FULL-POWERED ASRIEL ????

Damn, I would have fan-girled instead of foe-girl on him I guess 🤔

Or for those who love big, ugly monsters, in PHOTOSHOP FLOWEY mode!

Delightfully nightmarish, I approve 👌✨!

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Je viens de comprendre un truc.

À propos de Dreamtale. Pourquoi on est autant touché par cet AU, et par les jumeaux.

Je viens de comprendre pourquoi Nightmare est aussi populaire, pourquoi il nous touche, pourquoi il ME touche alors que POURTANT, ce n'est pas mon personnage préféré comparé à Dream, Ace ou Error.

Parce qu'on s'identifie à ses problèmes ?

Oui.

Parce qu'on compatie �� sa backstory ?

Certainement.

Parce qu'on aime le drama et les tentacules ?

...Meh, à coup sûr.

Parce que Dreamtale apporte une thématique symbolique extrêmement intéressante à propos des sentiments ?

Tout à fait.

Parce que le Fandom a développé l'histoire des deux frères sous toutes les formes et que nous avons été embarqués sans trop s'en rendre compte par les créations des fans, comics, dessins, fanfictions, que nous découvrons au fur et à mesure ?

Absolument.

Mais voilà, tout ça a le bénéfice de me convaincre, mais ça n'explique toujours pas l'intensité de cette implication émotionnelle. Pourquoi Nightmare m'a autant inspirée et m'inspire encore aujourd'hui ? Alors que très souvent MAIS CHIOTTE DE SES MORTS QU'IL ME SÂOULE BORDEL DE SCROGNEUHGNEUH ?!

Et c'est là que j'ai réalisé.

"Les deux frères"...

Cette histoire ne vous en rappelle-t-elle pas une autre ?

Je ne sais pas pourquoi, mais j'ai l'impression que PERSONNE ne fait ce parallèle pourtant évident. En tout cas je n'ai jamais vu de fanart comparatif ou de gens en parler.

La majorité des fans de Dreamtale est avant tout des fans d'Undertale, qui sont passés par le jeu travers le Gameplay, le Let's play, etc. avant de découvrir les AU's. La majorité a joué ou regardé le jeu et découvert le Lore. Écouté les OST. Apprécié les personnages.

La majorité a été témoin de la magnifique fin de la Timeline Pacifiste et de l'éclat de larmes qui en découle.

Et qui, bon sang mais qui, n'a jamais été touché par le destin d'Asriel ? Cet enfant mort bien trop tôt qui n'a jamais voulu de mal à personne, mort à cause d'une mauvaise décision, puis ressuscité en un être sadique et sans âme, incapable d'aimer ?

Vous ne trouvez pas que Night lui ressemble énormément ? Et que Dream serait le mélange de Frisk et de Chara ?

Pas dans la personnalité, ni dans l'histoire forcément, mais dans la manière dont il touche le public par leur destin commun.

Deux frères qui s'aiment énormément sont brutalement séparés par une dispute où l'un perd la vie, transformé en un démon surpuissant et dénué de sentiments. L'autre dort des années durant avant de se réveiller, perdu, confus... Puis il se lance à l'aventure en compagnie d'un guide, découvre le monde qui a évolué sans lui, grandit rencontre de nouvelles personnes, aide, sauve.

Et cette relation co-dépendante. Le démon est encore un enfant au fond de lui. Il veut jouer avec son frère, au point de commettre des actes atroces pour rester avec lui, même s'il doit s'emparer de son âme et le tuer un million de fois. Mais la nostalgie s'empare à nouveau de lui. Il sent au fond de son cœur trop puissant les âmes liées entres elles, il sent leur détermination, l'amour qu'ils ont les uns pour les autres. C'est beaucoup trop pour lui. Il succombe à ses sentiments et éclate en larmes. Il s'excuse. Les deux frères se réconcilient.

Belle histoire qu'on a tous envie de donner à Dream et Nightmare, pas vrai ?

On a envie de sauver Night.

Mais comme Asriel, c'est impossible. Nous savons tous à présent que Nightmare Corrompu n'est pas Night, n'est-ce pas ? C'est une révélation qui nous percute quand on cherche un peu sur le Tumblr de la créatrice après avoir lu le Prologue. L'histoire ne nous laisse aucun choix, il est mort il y a cinq-cents ans et cela reste immuable. Il n'y a aucun espoir.

Il doit s'en aller. Redevenir corrompu. Il doit mourir à nouveau. Parce que c'est comme ça que ça doit se passer.

Oui, on aime Sans dans Undertale, il est vachement cool et le Multivers tourne autour de lui. Mais dès qu'on joue au jeu, c'est pour Asriel qu'on pleure. Pour cause, Dreamtale, l'histoire qui ressemble le plus à sa tragédie, est l'un des univers des plus populaires. Un hasard ? Ou bien avons-nous tous fait inconsciemment le parallèle ?

Maintenant, quand j'écoute Hopes and Dreams, Save the World, His Theme, une part de moi pense à Asriel et Chara, l'autre part pense à Dream et Nightmare.

C'est pour sauver Asriel que les fans ont commencé à développer des univers parallèles. Et c'est pour sauver Night qu'on réitère le processus.

Ça aurait été vachement plus cool de mettre Dream et Nightmare dans des corps de Chara et Asriel je pense.

Et bordel vous imaginez NIGHTMARE CORROMPU AVEC LA FORME D'ASRIEL FULL-POWER ????

Ah bah j'aurais peut-être fan-girlé au lieu de foe-girler pour le coup 🤔

Ou pour ceux qui aiment les gros monstres pas beaux, en mode PHOTOSHOP FLOWEY !

Délicieusement cauchemardesque, j'approuve 👌✨!

#undertale au #undertale #dreamtale #nightmare sans #night sans #asriel #asriel dreemuur #asriel and night #SOMEONE MAKE A NIGHTMARE!ASRIEL FANART PLEASE !!!! #Wait no if I fan-girl on him I will loose my honor... #FUCK OFF MY HONOR DO IT #flowey #photoshop flowey

[bread-that-draws]

Flowey’s so funny and has me so fucked up like he’s a talking flower. He tries to kill you upon your first interaction. He is ten years old. He is damaged beyond repair. He’s a flower named Flowey. He’s become friends with every single character. He’s killed all of them countless times. He knows everything about everyone. He doesn’t care anymore. He takes care of his mom when she can’t take care of herself. He’s killed her before. He doesn’t care if you kill her. He thinks she’s trying to replace him. He just wants to be himself again. He wants to destroy everything. He hates you. You’re the only one who understands him. He wants his best friend back. He’s terrified of them. He believes in kill or be killed because he died by giving mercy to the wrong person. He believes himself to be the wrong person. He doesn’t understand when you show him that kindness he showed others, even when you know he could kill you for it. He’s tried every route. He asks you if you have anything better to do when you try to do the same. He’s a direct reflection of the player. He’s a fucking talking flower named flowey and his only voice line is by Ronald McDonald and his officially licensed plush does a little dance for you

#‘Flowey would listen to i bet on losing dogs by Mitski and cry until he throws up and Chara calls him cringe from beyond the grave’ #-me to my friend when I ranted about this last night #he has me so fucked up like oh my god #how is the best character a fucking talking flower #I love undertale’s writing so much like it’s mastered minimal evidence giving away the biggest parts of characters #i can analyze him i can study him under a microscope #i can put him in a terrarium with a sticky note that says gay baby jail you know #he has me SO fucked up #flowey #flowey the flower #asriel #asriel dreemurr #I’m talking about flowey btw not asriel i know they’re the same person but not to me #like how i consider little baby me and fucked up 13 year old me different people #asriel sits on the playground and cries when nobody wants to play warrior cats with him #and flowey sits in the back of classrooms and answers ‘life is MEANINGLESS’ to every question #not speaking from experience ofc (im lying) #love my edgy flower *puts a magnifying glass up to him and notes how fucked up he is* #i think more characters need to be fucked up beyond repair #undertale #utdr #character analysis

[squidpedia]

A realllly long time ago i had this asriel and chara comic idea and i cant promise at all that ill finish it but tonight i offer this doodle from the drafts

#late night chat #asriel #chara #doodles #pedias art #if i dont finish the lineart by the end of june then i color and post the sketches as is

[mod2amaryllis]

you come back wrong and wrong again

#undertale #asriel #flowey #frisk #toriel #utdr #m2a #m2art #this has been kicking around in my head for a while :) #listened to daffodil by florence + the machine on repeat also #you practice resurrection every night #made myself mythical tried to be real saw the future in the face of a #DAFFODIL

[lilybug-02]

Humans are weird

Bonus:

I love to think this happened separately 

#humans in this universe are legit Cryptids #Little creatures #glowey eyes #for anyone who’s wondering why I’m posting… shush. #The Break is still happening I just happened to create two comics in the span of one night #I have a really unhealthy coping mechanism #deltarune #undertale #art #my art #mini comic #deltarune chara timeline #chara and asriel

[acerikus]

Finally showing off my (deltarune) older Clover design! (As well as my tentative Asriel design 👀) Larger sprite and additional thoughts under the cut:

They're at college with Asriel and Chara and are majoring in chemistry. Martlet adopted them off the streets when they were pretty young and they latched onto her straight away, and the two of them live a few hours away from Hometown.

(Berdly always drags them into playing video games with him during family gatherings. They only really care about super smashing fighters and shooters though.)

Azzy can be kind of a dick now that he's free of the expectations everyone has of him in hometown and his friends enable this waaaaay too much.

#clover uty #asriel dreemurr #asriel deltarune #uty #best friends forever #lucky patch #<- I'm counting it #azzy has matching heart lockets w chara ofc just like in ut. #he has matching necklaces w clover too (he has a clover and they have a golden flower) #he's also kiiiiinda a dick. he let loose in college when free of the expectations of hometown and his friends enable him a lil too much #there was more to this sketch dump (this is months old at this point) but i just made their sprite so thought it'd be fun to share #OH AND AZZY LIKES H0MESTUCK BC I THINK THAT'D BE FUNNY. CLOVER HATES IT #asriel: so then dave and rose go to the green sun and they're TOTALLY expecting to just die but- #clover: i dreamed that i killed you last night. it was nice #xan draws #utdr

[tobighoul]

In the light of Asriel’s success, here is some burgerpants doodles for you guys.

#safe utdr #UTDR #utdr fanart #utdr fandom #burgerpants #burgerpants fanart #asriel undertale #undertale #hello there UTDR fandom didn’t expect to see you guys over here #100 notes over night no way #hey guys it’s just little ol me- #goofy doodles

[emeraldart]

They’re like a weird sitcom friend group to me

(Ramblings under the cut)

I’ve been thinking about crossover dynamics lately which I don’t usually do and this was born!

There’d be like two main groups: the middle schoolers (Michael, Chara, Charlie, Asriel) and the elementary schoolers (Cassidy, Frisk, Elizabeth, Kris)

Ages:

Michael - 13

Chara - 13

Charlie - 12

Asriel - 12

Cassidy (CC) - 9

Frisk - 8

Elizabeth - 5

Kris - 5

I doubt I’ll actually do anything with this but I have some funny bits in my head where the middle schoolers try to escape the school and Asriel tries to be the voice of reason or like Kris is entirely nonverbal at age 5 so they just assume that they always will be but they say “fuck” out of no where

#Crossover sitcom au #<- if I do anything with this I’ll tag it this #utdr #deltarune #undertale #dreemurr siblings #afton siblings #fnaf #five nights at freddy's #ut #kris dreemurr #elizabeth afton #frisk dreemurr #frisk undertale #frisk the human #cassidy afton #cc afton #the crying child #asriel dreemurr #charlie emily #charlotte emily #chara dreemurr #michael afton

[hellspawntale-rebooted]

For Flowey: Wonder why didja get so many FNAF games for Christmas? I'm kinda curious-

21/50

#undertale #undertale au #hellspawntale #asks #flowey #fnaf #asriel #chara #five nights at freddy's #Matpat #game theory #Christmas #Christmas arc

[three-atoms]

Marisa wakes alone. Asriel is already up and on the other side of the room, lounging in a chair, reading. Stelmaria and the golden monkey are curled together by his feet, as if he has two dæmons and she has none.

She rolls over, props herself up on an elbow and looks at him until he feels her eyes on him. It doesn’t take long; he’s developed some extra-sensory perception just for her, as if there’s a dæmon-bond between them too. He closes the book then and turns around to face her.

She smiles because she’s happy and looking at him. He smiles back and leans back in his seat to watch her. He never tires of looking at her.

#his dark materials #masriel #asriel x marisa #marisa x asriel #marisa coulter #asriel belacqua #fair isle #affair era #my shitty gif-making skills #ignore that the lighting is wrong in the last gif #marisa's hair is a mess! #because of last night #(because she got caught in the Blitz in this series) #james mcavoy is so baby-faced in atonement so he looks younger than ruth wilson here #if anyone knows a movie/series where mcavoy looks a bit older and that has scenes I could use for this gif set tell me in the comments #my fic #drabble #hdm fanfic #*mine #🧭 🧭 🧭

[snowgrieve]

late night angst thoughts of dess coming back from the void and not being able to accommodate back to her 'old life' in town because everything is SO different now. her sister's all grown up, she's not the same anymore and dess doesn't know how to act around her anymore, everything just feels kind of forced and awkward despite the fact that they missed each other so much. after so long trying to get back to each other again, the lingering question of 'what now?' rests between the two sisters, and no one dares to ask the other first. dess and asriel reconnected a bit when she got back, but everything is different because he managed to live without her for so long, he has another life now in college and everything is different. and kris. i don't know how it would be with kris. i feel like somehow for some reason nothing would change between them but they would also have another type of bond with each other that i cannot name..

#deltarune #dess holiday #noelle holiday #noelle deltarune #asriel #asriel dreemurr #kris dreemurr #dess #noelle #kris #angst #i don't really think all of this would happen bc i want only happy reunions and a happy life for dess BUT i was feeling angsty tonight so #take this #good night !

[someone-u-dont-kno]

u guys ever think that the reason Flowey hung around Papyrus so much (other than for his nefarious deeds) is bc Papy reminds Flowey of Asriel and how he was before losing his Soul and all the resets

#i do……. #undertale #its too late at night for this shit #flowey #papyrus #asriel dreemurr

[freuleinanna]

There's only one heart in this body.

Young Masriel + being in love in a summer Oxford.

#i love the northern aesthetic for them but honestly?? #being young and in love when it's summer just hits different #they're constantly sneaking away at nights #and looking at the stars #and just talking #quote: the disappearance of eleanor rigby #75% of the gifs are from there too hhh #i've thought of masriel since i saw that scene again when i needed a james' gif #hdm #hdm au #his dark materials #masriel #young masriel #marisa coulter #asriel belacqua #marisa x asriel #asriel x marisa

[godzillawithahoodie7]

Under the cut for Ultrakill Layer 7 spoilers, in case there are people waiting for Act III's full release

"hmm yes, today I will make an Omori AU in which V2 Ultrakill befriends Kel and forges a new identity for themself to live a peaceful life with the people it once killed"

One equally neurodivergent girlfriend (that's you @marigold1) later:

this truly is the crossover to ever fr fr

#godzilla #king kong #ultrakill #omori #night in the woods #undertale/deltarune #asriel #hero omori #bea santello #earthmover ultrakill

[metricbutterfly]

#Undertale #Fnaf #Asriel #Chara #michael afton #even afton #fredbear #five nights at freddy's #spring bonnie #WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87 #my art

[tragicotps]

Masriel au > based on the final chapter of the fic "Your Fortress" by @three-atoms [Asriel finds her when it’s two hours to midnight. Marisa finds him when it’s two hours past daybreak. There’s a lifetime in-between. There’s forever afterwards.]

#masriel #masriel au #SORRY OP I READ ONE OF YOUR FICS AGAIN AND IM EMOTIONAL ABOU TIT #hope this is okAY #ACTUAlly CryING rght now #its so beautiful #to anyone who hasnt read this pls do!! #THIS HAPPENED IN ANOTHER UNIVERSE OKAY #kill me now pls #youd have to imagine the second girl #🥺🥺🥺 #i wanted to include a quote but didn't wanna spoil #asriel belacqua #marisa coulter #lyra belacqua #au #mine #I should probably stop reading fics in the middle of the night