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hazbincalifornia · 4 months

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(I’m pretty sure the way I type is recognizable but I need to like pretend at anonymity bc I feel. Remarkably silly about this)

I wanted to like idk rant to someone in the HB fandom who isn’t balls deep in the “anti proship” sphere bc like, I’ve been struggling w guilt over enjoying a certain ship that everyone hates and considers problematic (I think Loona and Octavia is rlly cute!) and I’d like to make content for it but I also rlly fear being seen as like a pedophile. Do u ever worry abt that kind of thing? And is there anyway ur able to get over it if u do? I don’t like getting into anti/anti anti discourse bc I feel like it’s a very reductive way to view and interpret media but I still have a crazy amount of worry/guilt

First off, it is still ridiculous to me that this is even a problem in this fandom. This is an adult show about characters in Hell, and the main characters are, respectively, assassins and the eclectic cast of the Hotel which includes a cannibal serial killer. (I am eternally both amused and completely baffled that like half the awful puritanical takes I see are from Val icons. Buddy. Pal. The fucked up fiction is coming from inside the house.) I saw waaaaay more fucked up shit on Zim nsfw twitter than I see on Hellaverse twitter and that show was Y7. Up your game, guys.

Personally, I don't really see Loona and Via as siblings/sisters as much as I think a lot of others do, more just friends (and honestly I think canon moved much too quickly to give them such a heartfelt scene together, they hadn't even met officially before that point?) so it's really only the age thing and even then, the plot of HB has seemed to imply that a fair amount of time has passed since the series started, probably around a year- so Via would be 18 or older by the time anything actually started anyway, especially if they became friends first. Setting aside the 'justification' though... they're not real. They're cute together, I agree, and I think you should be perfectly fine enjoying them just in the lens of 'they're similar, I like how they'd interact, and I think they're cute together'!

I was pretty much forged in my opinions about this from Invader Zim stuff, where people insisted that liking two characters that I'd liked together since I was thirteen made you a pedophile. Obviously, I could tell that wasn't true, because it had never been the case in all those years up to people starting to be bitchy about it in 2019. (Before that, it was that it was bad because it was enemies to lovers and, more importantly, gay. Great hater throne to inherit, guys!)

Unfortunately... as stupid as it is, this fandom is way more puritanical than it should be, so it wouldn't be wrong to engage through anonymity to protect yourself. Find the people in the tag who are using 'proship/proship interact' or something along those lines (I've seen a few, although some tend to lean more on hard/dead dove content), post on ao3 into the anonymous collection which removes your name, make a tumblr sideblog that doesn't connect to your main, find fellow shippers and interact with them specifically. Do whatever you need to do to keep yourself safe from people who can't understand that thinking something is cute or interesting to explore in fiction is automatically bad just because they don't like it. The more stuff that's put out there about the ship, the more likely you are to find kindred spirits, that's honestly part of how I gathered my mpreg weirdos to me in both this fandom and the last.

I'm pretty sure that the callout I got for Sunny was why several mutuals who were a friend group unfollowed (and likely muted) me on twitter. Unfortunately, it left me worrying that the other shoe was going to drop any day for about a week because it got just enough notes to make me worry but not enough to get to anyone with any real reach to spread and get it 'over with'.

At this point, I've sort of reached a state of 'fuck it', because if it happens, it happens. I know that I'm fine, and the people I genuinely care about know that too. I know that what I'm making is entirely separate from my morals as a person, if not from how dumb the IZ stuff was than from the fact that I was an English major. Literature is full of stuff that authors don't make as a 1:1 with their real-life morals! And the one you're thinking about isn't 'bad' comparatively at all.

I think the fandom is starting to see that being a dick about fictional content is bad through the backlash to Poison and 'hey, maybe telling somebody that they need to detail their trauma to the public to make fiction is bad?', but it seems to mostly be centered on dub/noncon, so I wouldn't necessarily hold my breath.

At the end of the day though, remember this: You, as a person, are completely fine, no matter what others might think. Octavia and Loona would probably be seen as a totally normal ship like ten years ago (except for people who'd be dicks about them being gay) and there is no judgement to be made on your character in any reasonable way for thinking they're a good ship. You're not a pedophile for thinking a fictional owl and hellhound look cute together, any more than I was for smacking together two Nicktoon characters, and frankly the IZ argument held slightly more water than 'the almost-18-year-old and the 22-year-old' because Zim's age was so ambigious. Try explaining this 'people think the young adult animals holding hands are bad' to any adult who isn't sucked into fandom discourse and they'd probably be baffled that it's a problem.

I know that the guilty feelings aren't always rational and it took a bit of time for me to unwind how I felt about creating certain stuff too, but try to remember that above all else- exploring things in fiction has been a thing people have done for a very, very long time. What matters is your actions towards other real people, not what you do with fictional dolls.

If nothing else, if you want you can always send me a dm and chat that way, I'd be happy to talk.

#discourse #asks #anonymous

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honeyblockm · 2 years

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Stagnant au … *grabby hands* gimme more … sounds so cool …

sdkfjk i think this is abt tangent au? anyways pulls out a chair before we get started im going to talk for 2 hours about elektra natchios bc i promise it's relevant /j

i'm not sure when or if i will end up writing this as an actual fic and in which case everything i say will probably be spoilers but fuck it i don't believe in spoilers anyways

ok i mean there's a lot. that i could say but yknow what i'll elaborate more on the lmanberg story. it's. well ok at the barebones it's a year one for tangent!Wilbur Soot.

the backstory (that wilbur himself does not remember) is that he's Philza (prominent superhero in Aether City) son and like 5(?) years ago he was killed getting caught up in a supervillain plot. got completely blown up. Also Phil is a nonhuman entity- an angel by earth terms, but technically the High Host are an alien race (like the New Gods of DC). Phil came to Earth and eventually had Wilbur, who inherited most of but not all of his father's non-human traits. So. Yeah. Aliens.

And then he got resurrected in L'Manberg by Dream for yet to be revealed reasons

Wilbur chose the last name "Soot" for himself post-resurrection because the smoke and ash from the explosion that killed him is one of the only thing he remembers.

The rest of the current main cast of wilbur's year one / lmanberg arc is: Fundy, Tubbo, Quackity, and Schlatt.

Fundy is. Okay wait I wrote out bios for everyone in my notebook. Junior in high school, STEM kid, he's family friends with the Nihachu's and way way back when he was smaller Niki used to be his babysitter and then when he got older Niki was his friend and now Niki's at college but he still hangs out at the Nihachus' bakery where he meets Wilbur. he doesn't have a ton of friends outside of Tubbo and 5up on the robotics club. Hbomb too but H is also at college now. (rip). He lives with his mom, Sally, who is an ecologist and very busy but we don't fault her for that she's doing her best.

Schlatt is the leader of the biggest criminal faction of L'Manberg's underground. He's a powerful dude, with a lot of reach. Even in the city government. I think he gets a scary epithet but i haven't thought of it yet. He's got a plan to gain complete control of the city by creating a force of superpowered agents by activating dormant metahuman genes in regular people. That's. uh. blatantly ripped off from Young Justice but shhhh you don't know that haha. anyways i was gonna name the project Project Cadmus as a mythological reference but Cadmus is a DC thing of course it is so the current candidates are MYRMIDON, LYDIA, COLCHIS, or SPARTAE.

Tubbo and Quackity aren't as backstory heavy but they do have a lot to do when the plot ball starts rolling. Tubbo's a high school senior and Quackity's a law student who's back in L'Manberg for an internship with the city courts. Q walks in on the wrong thing at the wrong time and gets promptly disappeared. cough he may as well be dead as fuck and forcibly receives superpowers via the COLCHIS (name pending) program. Anyways both the nature of his superpower and all the trauma fucks Q up rlly bad and he becomes Chimera, a villain(not really?) with the power to take on the characteristics and capabilities of others except integration is painful and Q loses a bit of himself each time and his power always kills the other guy. and he struggles to control which aspects he takes.

yknow what it's kind of like elektra/the black sky in the defenders tv show. sorry that its becoming increasingly clear that i just tossed a bunch of cool things i liked into a blender to make this au. anyways q is set up to parallel wilbur in the respect that theyre both struggling to grasp their identity after post literal or metaphorical death and resurrection.

meanwhile Tubbo is understandably incredibly upset that his brother is gone and possibly dead? what? no he's not dead he can't be dead. he searches for Q really hard and ends up uncovering a lot about COLCHIS and Schlatt.

#this is so silly to type out but i think superhero aus deserve to have stupid bullshit sometimes #yeah if you asked me to go through and name all the DC/Marvel things that inspired different parts of this au i definitely could #no crimeboys in this au bc the original plan i had for tommy involved him not being aware of wilbur coming back? and now he's part of #eryn's plot and i'm ATTACHED to that #tangent au #woah this got out of hand #sorry for the insanity #yens #asks

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esther-dot · 3 years

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1 I too think they put too much effort in the show (an I appreciate it); they really did try to keep the main storylines, and give their own interpretations simultaneously. But if they changed the story from a Stark one into a Lannister one, raised Dany to a misunderstood hero, changed Tyrion's ending (who is a basic villain for the plot progression), why would I believe that Jon's ending is what they gave us? Their credibility is at least lacking (esp bc Ghost is missing an ear, lol). They

2 turned the main hero into D's fanboy when there's enough evidence to point to a Stark-Targ conflict. If Jon ends up in the Wall, which might happen, at least in the books it will be abt sth meaningful, like battling against Dany, thereby contributing to KL's destruction, which the show also tried to give (on their own terms), not bc he loved his child-murdering bitch. Although they might have given to Tyrion Jon's ending, perpetual service for the good of the people he destoyed by opposing D.

3 All in all, I don't think D&D have much credibility with what they did. The ending is there: Dany dead, KL destroyed, Bran king. The rest with all the changes they effected is at the very least negotiable. Excuse the rant, E.

(continuation of this convo)

I don’t mind rants! I'm a big fan of getting it all out.

I totally agree that they did a strange combo of Martin's ideas and theirs even when those two versions of the characters were no longer compatible. It didn't hit me that they were essentially running two concurrent stories until s7-8 (I was a show watcher and hadn't read the books until the long hiatus) when Jon was just totally opposed to himself in scene after scene.

They really should have just dropped all of Martin's stuff because it made their story incomprehensible, and the blending of ideas totally failed to convey Martin's anyway. Then, as stupid as their story might have been, at least it could have been cohesive. Like, fine, Dany is a good person who shouldn't be judged for the occasional misstep of burning people alive and Jon is a naive lamb who simply does as he is told, and Bran and Sansa are the dark forces that manipulate our heroes until they get their thrones. Come on! It would have been funny! It wouldn't be the "real" story, but if D&D had just decided to go for it we wouldn't have had the implication of those things while also having their actions contradict that interpretation. They really forgot that this wasn't a normal tv show, characters can't revolve through characterizations without the meaning being lost. Their failure to see how much the ending mattered (and therefore set up for it) meant that in the end, everything that came before felt futile.

All the same, I don’t get that upset by D&D’s stupid comments in interviews because I don’t think they’re honest about the how/why they made decisions. They were making a TV show, they needed a big event to hang each season on, moments in episodes that got people talking, and that’s what their goal was. They failed spectacularly in writing the story, but when it came to what they wanted to do (getting stuff to trend/prompt articles/grow their audience etc), they were very successful.

RE: Jon's ending, you're right that going to the Wall could be it and that also, we really can't trust D&D to have delivered a faithful version of his ending because of everything else they did to him. I mean, why make him loyal to Dany unless you're trying to justify his punishment? So weird that they turned him into a pretzel that would deserve some kind of punishment, and then, punished him for the thing everyone would be happy about?

When I think about the possibility of his ending at the Wall, I think the implications it has for others things is the strongest argument against it. I am not sure how he is involved in the destruction of KL if Bran is to be chosen king. How much distance Bran can create between himself and his brother/cousin/king to allow that? It seems un-doable to me.

I listed most of my objections here, a big one of which is justice and how can Bran be delivering justice if this is Jon's end?

I think there are many ways this ending for Jon doesn't make sense. Like, are the Others still a problem? If they are, how is it possible to protect Westeros without a Wall? How will the Watch be worth anything without one? They need it? How will they rebuild it? And in the books, wont it be a genuine, the whole fucking thing comes down, not just a little chunk?

Oh, the others are dead? So, the purpose of the Watch is no longer to protect the realm, merely to continue to prevent the FF from coming South? If they're expelled from Westeros rather than settled than what the HELL was the point of making their view sympathetic?? Oh, so they'll be settled South of the nonexistent Wall? Then what the hell is the point of the Watch?

Also, also, I feel like there is too fine a point on the fact that the Watch is corrupt, the vows anti-human, it's existence abused by people who want to disappear inconvenient offspring. If in the end Jon is sentenced there, I'm suddenly supposed to think this is an institution worth saving? Let's say Jon does participate in the destruction of KL. Let's say he somehow fails his people or the people of KL. His ending at the Wall is still bullshit because even if he "deserves" to suffer, continuing the Watch would mean subjecting other people to the suffering he endured. How gross. We have met too many people who are there who don't deserve to be for that to be okay.

So, I think if any ending was wrong, it was Jon’s. I know a lot of people want Tyrion dead or at the Wall, but there is that moment in AGOT about his shadow being that of a king, so I think it’s possible a villain “wins” or ends up in power. I suppose that could just be the impact he has on the events, rather than him ending up in a position of power, but as much as I thought he would die in the show, I’m not so sure Martin wants everything too neat and nice. Maybe Bran gives him the position as hand as part of getting him to agree to annul his marriage to Sansa. Who knows.

#ask dot

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lovelyfaustus · 3 years

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(I would much rather be on anon, instead of flaunting my art account, but ...)

Hello! If you have time, could I request a matchup from you? If you’re currently busy or do not have the time, I understand and I thank you for reading this much anyway.

Im a 22 year old, 5'4" gay (trans) guy with very wavy brown hair I like to dye bright blue or have faded blonde tips, I'm average-ly sized, and I wear glasses. I am mostly very polite, quiet, and "charming" around new people, though that's mostly just a default reaction. Towards friends, I am more snarky and quick-witted, and to crushes ... I am extremely tsundere and deny my emotions, until I fully trust the person I like (which can take a while). I'm relatively smart (above average), and my hobbies consist of Writing and Composing Music (I can play upwards of 11 instruments, and sing), Drawing/painting, and collecting facts on familiar birds or exotic bugs. I even have a hand written journal dedicated to flora and fauna I've found interesting facts for. I'm extremely determined and very rarely give up on anything once I've set my mind to it, I just rarely want anything.

Thank you for your time, I'm sorry about the length of this ask. Once again if it's too disinteresting, long, or you have enough on your plate, then focus on you! I wish you the best and hope you enjoy your day.

u sound cool af !! ty for requesting aa ur too sweet ! D,:

hmm,,,, after reading your request a couple times i cant help but wanna pair you with Sebastian :0 (pls dont hate me if you didnt want seb aaaa)

i feel like, upon first meeting you, sebastian would right off the hook fall for your charm. in fact i think he would try to “out charm” you lol. He would also internally compliment your manners when he meets you for the first time! like >;0? Your politeness is impeccable!

after gaining the honorable title of your friend, Sebastian would probably be taken back by your wit. For some reason he didn’t expect human behavior to be so ??? inconsistent????? if you like, walk away from him after some witty banter the reaction you’d probably get is just

🧍‍♂️❓

HE FINDS IT VERY ENTICING THO!!!

if you were ever comfortable enough or in a situation where you wanted to tell him that you’re trans, he would accept it ofc !! He likes you a whole lot, you’re a very interesting human! nothing is going to change that :) He may ask you questions about it though, like maybe when you realized or what kinda things make you comfy/uncomfy. tbh if he found out abt someone personally being against u for being trans, that person would end up dead somewhere in like a ditch or something

HE !! WANTS !! TO HEAR YOUR MUSIC !!!!!!!!

SHOW HIM NOW!!!!!! hes like , MESMERIZED at how well it sounds, how put together and organized it is. his human did this !!!!!!!! he feels like the coolest man in the world bc hes so honored to know you >:0!

I feel like Sebastian would find secret stashes of your writing and read it behind your back (not in like a bad way tho¿ like if u asked where ur writing went he’d be like “oh i found it and i wanted to read it. its really good btw”)

you and him paint together !! he likes watching over your shoulder when you draw. Also!! when he finds your journals about florals he’ll probably ask to let finnian borrow them and the scenario is just like

seb: Finny! the lovely (ur name) has given me this book to lend to you. Please read over it and return it in mint condition. *tosses finnian into a dead rosebush*

he likes that youre a very strong willed person! he thinks your compassion is really charming!

aaaa IM SORRY if this is like. ugly bad and stupid D: i have never done matchups before nd im kinda scared im accidentally gonna give someone a character they hate :C

#matchups #matchup #black butler #sebastian michaelis #kuroshitsuji #yana toboso #anime #manga

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clovd-9 · 6 years

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tattoo artist!taeyong × apprentice!reader (ft. ten)

promt: could you write an AU with taeyong as a tattoo artist please? I love you!!

A/n: I think I'm gonna write like 2-3 more parts to this because there's so many ideas I have for it and not enough room. Also...I love you too. ALsO my dad is a tattoo artist and I love writing these kinds of AUs bc I actually know abt them.

You never really expected to be a tattoo artists,, yet here you were,, in the waiting room of a tattoo parlor,, and all because of your friend and roommate, Ten

He had told you of a job opening to be an artist's apprentice,, yet failed to mention that it was to be a tattoo artists... or that your guide was a friend of his

So naturally you assumed they'd be loud, annoying, and lazy,, yet you gave it a shot bc why not

Then someone calls your name, and you turn around to meet the infamous Taeyong

His hair was white, standing out against his tan skin and dark tattoos,, his eyes were large and dark, looking at you

It took you a moment to find your voice,, feeling small in his gaze, but you nodded and followed him as he walked

The interview was pretty basic,, asking you if you had any experience, if you were comfortable with seeing blood, the essentials,, then he showed you his tools, explaining basic safety and hazards

His voice was rather monotoned and matched his expressionless face,, but somehow you still were caught up in what he was saying

By the end he simply told you he'd text you with any information/if you got the job,, then he turned around and went right along doing whatever he was doing before you had come in

Ten told you he was always like that,, expressionless,, but he was a cool guy and that you should give him a shot if you got the job

Which you did, exactly two days later he had texted you, giving you a schedule and telling you to bring a sweatshirt because the shop often as cold

So you show up the next day, dressed casually with a sweatshirt tucked in your arm,, he tells you to go to his booth, saying he has extra pens and inks for you to use which was kinda nice of him because you had no supplies at all

His first client comes in, and he sets up his station, making sure to give you a nice view of what he's doing,, then he turns on his music which is surprisingly,, soft r&b,, unlike everyone else around you who's blasting modern rap

It kind of catches you off guard,, yeah he's chill but,, he has some dimensions to him??

Anyways,, when he finally starts with the tattoo he suddenly has an expression on his face,, hed concentrated on what he's doing, his eyebrows furrowed

When he quickly glances at you,, you realize you've been observing him more than his work, which quickly causes you to burn with embarrassment as you focus on what his hand is doing

To your luck, he doesnt bring it up after he's done, rather asking your questions and seeing if you noticed certain techniques,, when you answer all of his questions he doesn't say anything but a simple okay and goes right back to cleaning his pen and table

Whenever you come home, Ten asks you a billion questions,, but they're oddly specific

Like,, did he mention anything else besides work, did he get lots of texts or phone calls,, and you're like what no idk jdiwkakf why

But he shrugs, saying he was just curious,, but you had your suspicions

So the next time you're around Taeyong you pay attention to what he's doing more,, turns out his phone blows up and he stares at it like it's a dead bug,, and you ofc bring this info to Ten bc you want to be in on the tea

But he refuses to tell you, saying taeyong would beat his ass,, so you leave it be and focus on your work

The longer you and Taeyong work together, the more he talks and tries to make conversation

Like one time he asked you out of the blue if you had seen how almost all animals from the Seoul area had been adopted,, and you were like yeah omg but you were also bamboozled bc why does a quiet creepy emo like taeyong pay attention to the news- or dogs and cats??

The both of you find out your similarities and interests, and small talk is no longer awkward because hey it's about things you actually like and know about

Ten drops in sometimes,, which reveals Taeyong's goofier side

You actually heard him laugh when Ten was telling a story and you were like hE DOES THAT?

But by now a few months have gone by and you've done quite a few tattoos, you're getting pretty good at it too,, Taeyong even told you good job on your most recent one which made you feel proud of yourself but you didn't tell him that

You found yourself getting more interested in who Taeyong actually was, and not who was at work

Parts of himself would show when he talked about how much he adored music, or how he actually wanted to be a dancer but discovered the art of tattoos

A small part of you even thought he was cute,, god forbid you tell Ten though he'd probably tell Taeyong and everyone in your shop

When your apprenticeship reached 6 months, Taeyong told you that you should consider becoming an independent artist,, to which this made you feel a pang of sadness,, bc you actually grew to really enjoy working alongside him,, but you told him okay

You brainstormed how to stay around him longer because quite frankly you were terrified of most other artists,, and then it came to you, why not work in the same shop?

So you called the owner of your current shop, discussed booth rent, and bam, you were set

When you told taeyong, he smiled widely, suddenly hugging you

"I'm sorry, I'm just happy for you!" He exclaimed, his smile never fading

You thanked him, saying that you wouldn't have been there if it weren't for him,, and ten but meh who cares about him rn

So the both of you work in the booth next to each other, often talking while giving tattoos or during break

And honestly, it didn't even seem like you were working, rather than just doing something you loved to do,, with someone you liked loved to do it with

To be continued ;)

#nct #nct127 #nct u #lee taeyong #taeyong #taeyong tattoo artist au #taeyong au #grunge taeyong #taeyong fluff #nct au #nct fluff #tattoo artist nct

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mikeshanlon · 4 years

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goddd I cannot believe u have read iwwv u don't know me but for some reason we watch like.. the same shows and now books lol. anyway can I ask what were ur thoughts on the ending? like to me at least it was onvious Oliver had not done it and he wasn't gonna pull a unreliable narrator last minute (despite being an unreliable narrator) I'm talking abt the whole uhh James is a**** thing.. like what HAPPENS NEXT? is he w wren? also I feel so bad for meredith like girl love urself.. sry 4 the essay

omg yes taste!!!! Also no I’m dying to talk abt this novel so don’t apologize if anything im sorry bc I wrote way too much answering ur question LGRNLRGN

IF WE WERE VILLIANS SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT go read it if u haven’t it’s legendaric

Okay the ending!!!! AH!!!! Okay yeah so I think it’s clear Oliver did not do it, I think the ambiguity lies more whether or not James intentionally killed Richard or if it was an accident. Like, did he see Richard stumbling out in the woods hella intoxicated and think to himself that this was the perfect opportunity to get revenge for all the abuse and torture Richard had been terrorizing him with??? Did he lie to Oliver? Personally, I believe James that it was an accident… of sorts. I don’t think James set out with the intention to kill Richard at all. But Richard was goading him and fighting him and after the buildup of cruelty and tension between them over the past few months, Richard be a homophobic dick and calling James and Oliver qu*er and prodding at the most important relationship in James’ life struck a nerve. So when Richard wanted to keep fighting and hurt him again he was like fuck this and he hit Richard too hard with the hook and that in tandem with Richard being drunk caused Richard to fall and die. And, like the others, James felt awful but there was a sort of sick sense of relief.

(Also, I’m not exactly sure Oliver counts as an Unreliable Narrator. I mean he is certainly keeping some things from that detective guy but, and I was reading something from M.L. Rio about this, like he’s literally just oblivious and dumb as fuck sometimes LKGNLRGLKNRG. So idk how often he’s intentionally Unreliable but I also get what you mean)

Anyways I’m totally a believer that James is alive bc despite enjoying dark stories im like okay but I need a happy ending LGKNLKRGlkenlgneg. Like c’mon they never found the body……….. A metaphorical death and shedding of his past life bc he blames himself for Oliver taking the fall is like the MOST tragic hero Shakespearean shit ever like it just works so well!!!!!! The part where Oliver describes the last time James visited him in jail…

“Oliver I’m begging you,” he said. “I can’t do this anymore.” When I refused again, he pulled my hand across the table, kissed it, and turned to leave. I asked where he was going and he said, “Hell. Del Norte. Nowhere. I don’t know.” (343).

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd. God. Anyways I think that was very telling of his plans. Hell (for “committing suicide”, moreso for all of his wrong doings). Del Norte is the beach that him and Oliver slept on that one night and so I feel like that place holds a lot of significance for them, but it’s a place only those two know the significance of. So, I like to think he ran away there and started a new life. He wrote that letter with the disjointed Pericles monologue I think to hint to Oliver that he was at Del Norte, if he wanted to find him, because even though his “death” was a self-punishment for ruining Oliver’s life, he still cares for him a lot and doesn’t want to be without him. Like a whole monologue about the sea????????? The fact that he literally said the monologue to Oliver while they were at Del Norte?? “To give my tongue that heat to ask your help; / Which if you shall refuse, when I am dead, / For that I am a man, pray see me buried.” LIKE WHAAAAAAAAAAT god !!!! Also water is gay<3 and in my heart Oliver goes and finds him and they like work through shit and are together.

Anyways I don’t really think he’s with Wren. Their relationship during senior year was always sort of ambiguous to me…. Like they definitely got super close, they probably were romantically involved in some capacity (since other characters like Alexander who is much more perceptive were like Oliver how did it take you this long to notice LRGNRGNK) though idk if it was like the Encompassing Love Affair Oliver thought it to be bc he’s oblivious and jealous. And also like James was very much enamored with Oliver so idk. (EDIT i just remembered they slept together LMAO but i think my point still stands) In the epilogue Wren is in London and is a recluse and doesn’t reach out to any of the Villains which like. Good for her LRGNRLG even though I hated Richard I can’t imagine like how much of a toll that took on her to see her cousin die and all their friends be like uh yeah we should let him die and then have to keep up a lie like… even though she agreed Richard was awful that has to be so heart wrenching (badumtss) and life ruining. So I think she especially wouldn’t want to be with James seeing as he essentially led Richard to fall into the lake, though I’m not sure if she knows that or not.

And Meredith!!!! Like I’ll be real sometimes she frustrates me but I think she’s also SUCH an interesting and realistic character (which is something I love about this novel, all the characters are interesting to me and I like how the female characters are portrayed.... like i LOVE Fillipa she is such a bad ass bitch but again she’s not just like. Expected to always be strong and clever like she’s got feelings too. Anyways love her). As I said before I was perusing through the author’s tumblr a bit and ppl were like “omg why did Meredith go through all the male friends” like BYEEE literally feeding into the stereotypes that made her feel insecure and weak… (Also again, they’ve known each other for four years… so its not that insane lmao). I think Meredith’s relationship with her sexuality and beauty is very interesting and relatable for a lot of women (I mean I am not. Like a seductive femme fatale like she is but LGKNKRGN). On one hand she is definitely a multifaceted person who is more than her sexuality, on the other, she’s constantly Literally Cast by Gwendolyn in sexualized roles and seen as sexualized by her friends/bf (Richard) and constantly told her worth in and out of the theatre is her body. Like there is an interesting duality about the power she possesses with her sexuality but also the extreme insecurity that is bred by being constantly sexualized and this struggle of like knowing she has worth outside of her body but also sort of … not in the eyes of others. That scene where they’re doing those exercises of their strengths and weaknesses really Hit. Anyways yes Meredith love urself queen… get a hot respectful gf… become a powerful successful legend…..

Related-ish sidenote, obviously I like James and Oliver together the most though I will say Meredith and Oliver’s relationship was interesting though ultimately unhealthy…. Like one of the aspects I like about their relationship is Oliver respects Meredith and when he realizes he is falling into that idea that Meredith is this super sexualized person he’s like hold awn that’s shitty of me… But also I think the fact of the matter is that their relationship was catalyzed by shitty stuff,,, like lust and the need for revenge. Like I honestly don’t really think they would’ve gotten together if not for the extreme animosity with Richard and the adrenaline of like that whole show run and more particularly That Night…. It feels like they got together because they were drunk and they’re attractive, which like yeah fine valid, but also, subconsciously, to be like fuck you Richard. Like, guess what I’m with the guy who you’re constantly saying doesn’t matter. And also seeking comfort and validation when their most important people are not valuing them (Richard being literally fucking awful to Meredith, James sort of pushing Oliver away—again I think subconsciously was sort of a revenge jealousy type thing where Oliver is with the person that James doesn’t really like and makes not amazing comments about being promiscuous). And then their relationship I think keeps going because like. Wow grief is a bitch and they want some comfort. Meredith is drawn to Oliver because he’s one of the only people who values her for more than just a sexual object which like is What She Deserves but their relationship is like a mess of sex and guilt and Oliver is in love with James (the parts where Meredith drags Oliver for caring more about James… iconic as she should! Like when Oliver is like sorry James is visiting me I’m not coming or when she’s like are you more jealous of him or me when they kissed for that scene….. OOP!). Anyways idk if that makes sense but I find Oliver and Meredith’s relationship interesting bc it’s not like… the worst unhealthy relationship ever or anything and I think there is genuine care and love/attraction there between them but like Oliver is never going to totally Be What Meredith deserves especially because like… he loves James more. Also the part where Meredith slaps Oliver when he gets out of jail and he’s like yeah I deserve that is so GLKNRglkenrgnrg to me.

Anyways I probably have more thots but wow. This is long. Sorry LGRNLKRGNng

#if we were villains #books #anon #ask #okay i edited something and idk why tumblr glitched the fuck out at least on my dash but i added the read more again...#tumblr is a broken hellscape <3

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Where did the GLaDOS/Chell ship come from? I know you guys parade it around like it's cannon but I don't really get it. For example, I'm not a Chelly fan by any means, but I can see why people ship it. I'm not trying to be judgemental by any means, I just want to understand your perspective in this.

thanks for asking! you dont sound judgmental at all dont worry. i had a lot to say so it’s all under the cut, i hope youre okay with a text wall sorry its so much to read!!! i tried to double space it so its not overwhelming but i couldnt figure out how to. this is just explaining why i personally ship it, i cant speak for others but from the other shippers ive talked to, this is the general reason

tbh u should take a look at the commentary valve did on the relationship!! 1. its super cute i lov them and 2. it may give some insight for u. unfortunately valve makes u pay like 2 bucks for the actual commentary which is frustrating but my friends did a post quoting some of it here and also u can find bits of it all over the internet (my friends didnt include this in the post since the scene was deleted, but there is a deleted scene where glados sets up a date for chell and then accuses her of cheating on her with a personality sphere)

i personally ship it bc for one, their interactions are really interesting. especially the way they do a complete 180 and start helping each other and relying on each other for survival. i also think that they’d be a cute couple. also, they were both pretty hurt by aperture and i think they both need someone they can rely on who understands their experiences so they can heal. they unfortunately both hurt each other, but i think since its evident that there was a turnaround in their views of each other (ie chell helping glados when she was a potato and helping her get back in charge of the facility despite their past and glados owning up to her bullshit and trying to make reparations) that they could actually help each other heal. i also really just like the idea of them both feeling very safe and loved with someone who can understand them. theyve both been through so much and it breaks my heart especially thinking abt what glados went through w the scientists and cave and how her being with someone who loves her dearly would just be so sweet and important. i think the same abt chell, although we dont know much abt her back story. but i think its important to be loved and understood.

the two have an interesting character dynamic that i think, in the end, would actually bring out the best in each other once they work past their troubled past. glados uses sarcasm to cover up very vulnerable feelings, and chell is very stubborn, so chell could always uncover and get to the bottom of what glados is thinking and help her feel better. glados is very sentimental and caring underneath her cold exterior (ie returning chells companion cube from the first game, always writing songs for her, remembering details about her, etc) and could soften chell up when she gets a little too in her head or w/e. ig im taking that personality trait from her very logical, stubborn, problem solving mindset thats discussed in her file and a few times in the game iirc. with that kinda personality i think sometimes its hard to see things from an emotional perspective and open up and i think glados could help.

i think its evident glados cares abt her even if she is bad at showing it in the beginning. she talks to chell a whole lot in portal 2, even to the point of breaking protocol so she can interact with her, she returned her cube from the first game, wrote her cara mia addio which is such a sweet song, she tried to help her survive when she was a potato and encouraged her, she saved her life too when she goes on and on abt really just wanting her dead. i think abt that a lot actually. like she says killing chell is hard directly after saving her life, and then later she surrounds her with turrets and is still insistent killing her is hard. so she (from my perspective) must mean its emotionally hard to kill her, and i think its bc she has feelings for her and valves commentary talks abt that too!!also theres two voice lines in the co-op that are about chell where she said she hurt chell despite her own desires, and another voice line she calls her wonderful. she also talks in the co-op about how she regularly goes to the surface to watch the deer, just like she promised she’d do with chell. she also only elects to save the baby birds in the co-op and raise them herself after she realizes they were abandoned by their mother just like chell. she sounds very miserable and lonely in the co-op, and i think a lot about how she really sacrificed her own happiness to make chell happy by granting her freedom. and i think that’s very sweet and shows that underneath it all, glados is pretty selfless and loving and admires chell quite a bit.

that doesnt at all mean the ship is without its problems. everyone in portal hurts each other, which is very sad. but i think they could help each other heal, work past their differences, and bring out the best in each other if given the chance. they’re both two people who really need love and support, and it’d be nice to see them give it to each other

anyway i hope this lends some insight, i have so much more i wanna say but i’m just. Tired its rlly late rn

#chelldos

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