#anti sansa antis

[babybells123]

Posted about how I don’t care for/want a Jon/d*ny romance on r/asoiaf - and now I’m getting cooked for trying to be “unique” because they’re actuallyyyy the fated soulmates lovers of the series that are HEAVILY foreshadowed bc blue rose wolf howl shadowy lover and every reply that’s agreeing with me is getting downvoted to HELL.

It also just got me thinking about how people will bend over backwards about the obvious foreshadowing evidence for romantic j*nerys because ‘Martin is smart like that and places clues everywhere, nothing is a coincidence’ only to dismiss anything and everything about Jonsa because it’s a delusional crackship and everyone is reaching and everything is a coincidence and George isn’t truly thinking of any of their parallels and foreshadowings and their narrative relevance etc ….. and when Jonnel and Sansa Stark are brought up , it’s to ‘prove’ that Jon / D*ny will marry because it means the Starks are okay with uncle/niece marriage.

I hate it here so bad.

#god forbid I state I DONT want the most predictable fantasy love story of all time #because I don’t think Jon is going to come back all fire and blood iron throne dragons #but instead have his connection incited even more to the north and his family #basically placing his desires over his duty #like I don’t deny that they’ll cross paths #but there’ll be so much conflict between them #just observing the hundreds of replies I got #they’re so intent on clinging to this evidence for their ship but will dismiss any and all other evidence for other ships as pure delusion #the blue rose bit is weak….I don’t view it as romantic at all #jonsa #jon x sansa #anti sansa antis #anti jonerys

[starkwoes]

the only way some of these stans can interact with asoiaf is through mentally deleting every mention of sansa stark, and then crying when people “force her into the story” like she hasn’t been a major pov for decades😭😭. Jon and Sansa weren’t besties by any means but they’ve both thought about eachother in a positive light more than once. Cope with the ginger , get over it already.

#anti sansa antis #sansa stark

[eternalvoidseeker]

-Something in Robb’s tone troubled her. She smoothed out the paper and read. Concern gave way to disbelief, then to anger, and lastly to fear.

“This is Cersei’s letter, not your sister’s,” she said when she was done. “The real message is in what Sansa does not say. All this about how kindly and gently the Lannisters are treating her… I know the sound of a threat, even whispered.

They have Sansa hostage, and they mean to keep her.”

-Lady Mormont took her hand and said, “My lady, if Cersei Lannister held two of my daughters, I would have done the same.” The Greatjon, no respecter of proprieties, lifted her off her feet and squeezed her arms with his huge hairy hands. “Your wolf pup mauled the Kingslayer once, he’ll do it again if need be.”

-Robb's fingers brushed the pommel of his sword. "If I could I'd take his ugly head off. Sansa would be a widow then, and free. There's no other way that I can see. They made her speak the vows before a septon and don a crimson cloak."

Catelyn remembered the twisted little man she had seized at the crossroads inn and carried all the way to the Eyrie. "I should have let Lysa push him out her Moon Door."

Like what the hell are they even talking about anymore. Hopefully Sansa antis wake up one day and realise that nobody but them, will think that a 13 year old willingly married into the family that killed hers. If northern lords believed that women should totally attach themselves to their captors they wouldn't be marching against the Bolton's and trying to save "Arya". None of them are talking how "Arya" probably willingly married Ramsey. They wouldn't hold any judgment for Ramsey forcefully marrying lady Hornwood.

-And do you imagine the Hornwood men have forgotten the Bastard's last marriage, and how his lady wife was left to starve, chewing her own fingers? What do you think passes through their heads when they hear the new bride weeping?

Remember how they think that 15 year old Lyanna willingly ran away with 23 year old Rhegar. Oh wait they don't. But no they definitely will think that 13 year old Sansa willingly married to 26 year old Tyrion+ all the bad things they believe about him.

#sansa stark #anti sansa antis #asoiaf #and I love how they tagged the post anti Sansa like that's supposed to be her fault

[catofoldstones]

coming to the asoiaf fandom thinking sansa must be getting the tenten treatment - while not everyone’s favourite, generally well liked - and realising that she has always received the sakura treatment - being viscerally hated for being a 12 year old girl - gave me level 100 psych damage

#y’all are no different from the anime incels #asoiaf #sansa stark #game of thrones #anti sansa antis #sakura haruno #tenten #naruto #I am always colliding my two hyperfixations into one

[am-just-a-bait]

Realistically, if a ship is so irrelevant and you're so sure it won't happen. You'll treat it how Jonsas treat the Sansan shippers. By mostly ignoring them.

Or u could be extra paranoid bc it's very plausible and obsess about it to the point u make parody blogs like Jonsa antis

#jonsa #anti jonsa antis #anti sansa antis #anti arya stans #anti Daenerys stans #anti Jon tokenizing stans

[asharaxofstarfall]

most idiotic anti sansa take i have ever heard is that she viewed loras and margaery as ugly and beneath her because they had "commoner looks". loras, who she calls gorgeous multiple times and dreams about kissing and marrying. margaery, who she says is her ideal sister, and very beautiful. you guys just love to lie

#anti sansa antis #pro sansa stark #sansa stark #anti asoiaf fandom #a song of ice and fire #asoiaf #like seriously

[sansamelancholy]

the fact that sansa rejected the pomegranate which symbolizes death(and in persephone’s story it symbolized her imprisonment in the underworld) but instead she chose the pear which represented life, immortality and prosperity.

#asoiaf sansa #sansa stark #pro sansa stark #anti sansa antis #book sansa stark #a song of ice and fire #gotsansastark

[estherruth-jonsatrash]

Them: Sansa can't have any connection to Bael the Bard and the winter rose! She has red hair and most Starks have dark hair!

Me when I realize that after Sansa's stolen by Bael-ish and when a bard calls her a Roadside Rose, her hair is actually dark.

#sansa stark #sansa stark fan club #anti sansa antis #fandom foolery #gif not mine #to be clear i don't think hair color proves anything with this either way #it's just that they kill their own arguments so fast #are these people okay? #i feel like someone should check on them but it can't be me sorry

[alaynasansa]

Why should I spare his feelings, when no one cares about mine ?

Sansa III - A Storm of Swords

Where are the so-called feminist fans when 12-year-old Sansa Stark is forcibly married to a man twice her age who specifically chose to marry her over a woman his own age because he's attracted to a preteen and wants to steal her birthright ?

Ah yes they think she's ungrateful

#sansa stark #anti tyrion lannister #anti sansa antis #a storm of swords

[agentrouka-blog]

i always love your responses because i think you do such a good job explaining things (even though some of it is just common sense)... so i was wondering if you could read this meta? i've come across this sort of idea about sansa before in their circles, but this is the first time that i've seen them try to argue that she is somehow inherently unloveable *rolls eyes*

-Something I find really interesting is that for all Sansa craves admiration and “love” from others, she’s not especially good at making friends or inspiring supporters. When people do decide to support or “befriend” her in the story, it is always with ulterior motives—almost all of which serve themselves. This includes characters like the Hound, whose connection to Sansa is built off his own ideology concerning knighthood and gender in their social system.

Her inability to create that support system is partially due to her environments: King’s Landing and the Vale, neither of which are necessarily forgiving places. However, despite her hostage status and shamed House, Sansa is still a valuable person to befriend, even if only for ladies. She’s pretty, performs her ladyhood well, has a famous bloodline, and is tied to the very wealthy ruling family. What’s more, she’s obviously mistreated (for a portion of her time in the capital) and without much actual power. If anything, she should garner sympathy friendships, but with everything else in mind, she should attract at least some love, some support that isn’t totally disingenuous or self-serving, however minuscule. And yet even that eludes her for some reason.

The way similar characters—her siblings particularly—so easily find friends and supporters throughout the books really draws Sansa’s lack of them to the forefront. Jon, for example, finds friends in both the Night’s Watch and amongst the wildlings. Bran forms close friendships with Jojen and Meera. Arya literally makes friends in nearly every place she goes, be they high- or lowborn. Daenerys finds companions in her ladies and Missandei and gathers loyal supporters in people like Ser Barristan. Even Catelyn as Lady Stoneheart earns the support of the Brotherhood. Granted, many of these supporters operate in their devotion to specific Houses, but they’re not doing it to serve their own wants and desires, which is a stark contrast to those “supporters” who surround Sansa at various times.

All in all, I’m intrigued at the way Sansa’s desire for love—genuine or affected—evades her while many of her contemporaries, misfits and traditional characters alike, garner it quite easily. Aside from her environments, what is it about her specifically that seems to repel genuine relationships? And what does this persistent inability to gather loyal friends, companions, and supporters indicate about her future role, if there is one?-

if you can probably tell its written by an arya stan

I laughed. 😂 Anything to cling to the idea of queen Arya - or rather not!queen Sansa.

As if being a hostage of the royal family in the royal palace in the royal capital, surrounded by enemies and spies is not the entire reason Sansa is isolated. Do they even consider how much more risk is involved in even casually approaching her, than there is for anyone having a chat with "Arry" or "Nan" or "Cat"? There is nothing "partially" about it. She is a well-guarded hostage and no one safe and well-intentioned enters the perimeter of her prison, end of.

Once Sansa is in the Vale, she is still more difficult to approach by anyone than a "simple" lowborn girl, as the bastard daughter of Littlefinger (soon Lord Protector) - who takes pains to control who she interacts with and how. And still she begins to form tentative bonds to the people around her - mindful to keep her emotional distance to a degree after what happened with Margaery and Dontos.

Which highlights another crucial aspect. Arya's bonds? Generally represent her attachment to others, not the other way around. She declares Hot Pie and Gendry her pack and feels betrayed that they have their own lives and plans, she never asked them if they feel the same way and I doubt it - and yet her bond to Gendry (also on the run, no threat to her!) - is the single most genuine mutual attachment she forms after she becomes a fugitive. Do they think Yoren helped her because she's uniquely worthy and not because she is Ned's daughter? Do they think Jaqen has no ulterior motive? Or Harwin and Beric? They are kind because they can afford to be but their motives are their own ends. Do they think Lady Smallwood would have somehow withheld this same kindness from Sansa? The captain of the Titan's Daughter knows she is connected to the Faceless Men, ffs. And what possible risk is attached to the women of the Happy Port being kind to a beggar girl?

To her vast credit, Arya forms quick and genuine attachments to other people. More so than Sansa, whose situation also doesn't allow for it. But these attachments don't represent a support system and they aren't deep bonds.

This distorted representation of their ability to connect to people certainly doesn't allow for some kind of speculation how Sansa would act and be perceived in a safe environment and or in a role of political leadership.

#sansa stark #anti arya stans #anti sansa antis

[babybells123]

People who make entire blogs dedicated to being anti jonsa, and then bait it by conveying a user such as “jonsa…” are actually so fucking weird. I’m begging y’all to get a job , my god . If you don’t like a ship , then don’t interact with it and perhaps engage with the ship that you actually like and are passionate about. Stop stalking the Jonsa tag to laugh and giggle about it with your friends and then make intentionally misleading posts and accounts to lure shippers in bc I guess we’re just the most hateful disgusting people in the fandom and deserve to rot and be ridiculed. Please get a life !!!

#jonsa #sansa stark #jon snow #jon x sansa #anti sansa antis #pro sansa stark #pro jonsa #anti jonsa antis

[lady-asteria]

Sansa didn't think "I'm stronger within the walls of Winterfell" just to you all to believe she will never return to her home.

#sansa stark #sansa stark defense squad #anti sansa antis #like- she (and her siblings) belongs to winterfell #not shade to her tully side #i love Cat and the Tullys deserve better

[catofoldstones]

Saw a post right now that said that the affc outline talks about Baelish’s plot to marry Alayne to Harry Harding and then reveal that she is Sansa so that the vale army stands behind her taking the north and not what the stansas are saying. Babes, that is still Sansa taking back the north, keep talking to the wall.

#on that note #why do I???? keep seeing all these posts? #does Tumblr hate me personally? #in case anyone is wondering what the dannie and @ry@ stans are thinking #cope harder #asoiaf #sansa stark #anti sansa antis #like atp I’m genuinely like are you really that stupid? #what’s not clicking? #what do you think the news from white harbour is? #this is same person btw who said who said chapter transitions are not how foreshadowing works in asoiaf #and I just know I will not be taking anything seriously after they said that #how could you miss something so vital to storytelling and be so confident about that

[lemoncakz]

ijbol— targ stans / aria stans have to villianize sansa to justify their unjustified extreme hate towards her. they will blame a child for her own fathers death and her own abuse before realizing their hate is beyond unreasonable compared to the actual terrible people in asoiaf.

sansa is a “villian” because she rightfully so didn’t trust dani and she was right to distrust her!! look at king’s landing— do you a genocidal tyrant to be your ruler? no i don’t think so

#fandom bs #sansa stark #anti sansa antis #anti dany stans #anti arya stans #anti targ stans #— #no i am not gonna go over the other women mentioned because idc #not because i hate them but because i have no energy for this fandom anymore

[asharaxofstarfall]

idk why sansa haters insist on calling her ugly when she is literally described as beautiful more times than anyone else in the entire series

#anti sansa antis #pro sansa stark #she's canonically one of the most pretty girls of her generation in both the books and the show #they just lie about things to make her seem less important #sansa stark

[sansamelancholy]

sansa stark affc outline “resolve to be sansa stark and take north”.

#sansa stark #asoiaf sansa #pro sansa stark #anti sansa antis #book sansa stark