#anti lorelai gilmore

[femmedefandom]

why does Lorelai say that she’s known guys like Jess before? Lorelai was the member of an extremely wealthy family who socialized with other extremely wealthy families and her sheltered social group consisted of that and her private school friends with such superficial concerns that her pregnancy was something that shook their world. then she moved to SH which offered a bubblewrap kind of protection. so I highly doubt whatever superficial “rebels” and “bad guys” she met (by age 16 mind you, her experience with guys could not have been that extensive) were anything more than trust fund kids acting out with daddy’s money for attention. maybe they had attitude, or stole their parent’s car, or drank underage, or smoked, or (gasp!) had sex…which is something she and Christopher did…but that’s a far cry from an abandoned and neglected kid of a substance addicted mother and dead beat absentee father who lived in poverty, developed a lot of distrust for adults, and is shipped off to SH without his consent, likely weeks after his hometown of NYC suffered on 9/11. Jess is not the same as those “bad guys” you knew.

#gilmore girls #jess mariano #anti lorelai gilmore #lorelai’s unreasonable hatred of Jess

[saltygilmores]

I Will Never Let Anyone Forget How Lorelai Repeatedly Flips The F Out Over Jess And Rory Making Out When This is How She Reacts to Dean and Rory Making Out Unsupervised

Posting this because Jess and Rory are about to get busted in Let The Games Begin for sharing a kiss so innocent and chaste that even Mama Kim wouldn't bat an eye at it. (even though it's Luke who walks in on them in this episode, I'm sure Lorelai will have something to say about it, and she'll have her own bust down the door moments in due time)

#anti lorelai gilmore #I loathe you #hypocrite with a capital H #it's okay when Rory is 16 but not when she's a legal adult #jess mariano #literati #what crawled up her butt and died #dean sucks

[frazzledsoul]

#this will not be popular #but anyway! #gilmore girls #anti lorelai gilmore

[buffysummers]

Okay, so not to be a hater, but I just need to go on a little rant.

I’ve been rewatching Gilmore Girls (shocking, I know!) and every time I rewatch this show, the more irritated I become with Lorelai. So much of her parenting is a red flag to me. I’m only on 2.16, but I have a list so here it is:

Inviting Dean to their movie night once she finds out that Rory and Dean kissed. I’m sorry, but WHAT? This is a perfect example of Lorelai not being able to maintain the balance of mother/friend. She seems to forget here that she is, in fact, Rory’s mom and not simply her best friend, so she crosses a major boundary. In what world would a daughter want to have her first date with the guy she likes... with her mom there? Lorelai was really struggling and upset that Rory didn’t tell her about the kiss, so she completely overcompensates here. She’s trying so hard to act like she’s okay with it that she behaves in such a bizarre and erratic way.

Completely freaking out on Rory for staying out all night. I know this situation was majorly heightened because Emily happened to be there, but there’s no excuse for Lorelai’s reaction. She just automatically makes the assumption that because Rory was out all night that she must have been having sex. As Rory points out to her, she should know her better than that. Saying she’s going on the pill etc! Lorelai continues to stigmatize sex here. I know that she was worried, any mother would be if her child didn’t come home. But she spent most of the time lecturing Rory about sex.

Getting mad at Rory for asking Emily for help with their termite issue. Yes, Lorelai should be able to figure things out on her own, but once again, the lines between mother/friend are blurred here. She says to Rory that she is the parent and she needs to be the one taking charge and making the calls, but can we blame Rory for forgetting that they aren’t equals? Especially when Lorelai is being so immature about this. Like, she’s too proud to ask her parents for help? Most people would kill to be as privileged as Lorelai in this situation. A lot of people can’t turn to their parents when they need help. It’s just frustrating when Lorelai acts like she’s poor sometimes/etc when like girl you are not lol.

The whole basket thing with Jess. Her siding with Dean simply because she doesn’t like Jess. This woman is so petty I can’t lol. There’s nothing wrong with Rory keeping her word, and she’s also allowed to have other friends. She got pizza and went to the bookstore with Jess? Alert the police!!!

This is less about parenting and more about Lorelai just being... completely embarrassing so I’m not adding it to the list. But Lorelai is quite literally beefing and fighting with a teenager, aka Jess. I will never get over how pathetic and weird she is about him. She just yelled at him and said that Rory is “madly in love with Dean” I’m sorry but WHO talks about their 16-year-old daughter’s relationship like this?? It’s fucking weird!!!

Not to mention she never even gave Jess a fair chance. He called her out on her feelings on Luke (in a crass way, but come on... he’s 17 lol) and she blows up on him? She basically has a temper tantrum and this tantrum has yet to end. Not to mention she’s pretty patronizing to Luke about how he’s handling Jess when at least he talks to Jess and doesn’t bicker with him 24/7??? It’s just so weird and the fact that she never, ever treats Jess fairly. Even in “A Year in the Life” she’s still super fucking petty like this woman is a child I’m sorry.

I love her but she is a whiny baby and not a good mother... It’s crazy because growing up I wished I could be close to my mom like Rory is... But actually their dynamic is not only unrealistic (we all knew this already ofc) but also just not good for Rory at all???

Ok rant over sorry y’all jsdgsdg

#gilmore girls #anti lorelai gilmore #rambles

[love-geeky-fangirl]

"The Gilmores live in the world where everyone feels entitled to get what they want, when they want and they don't care who they screw over,"

says the woman messing with her mother's wedding seating chart just for fun.

#talk about hypocricy #anti lorelai gilmore #for filtering purposes #gilmore girls rewatch #5x13

[ivystitches]

The way lorelai also acts like Rory was forced into applying to Yale then got MAD at her for it like she knew Rory was going to get into Harvard. Rory could’ve literally asked to spend the night at her grandparents and she would’ve gotten pissed, but if she asked to go to a mosh pit she would approve 😭

SKKSSKSHJF FR ANON i literally don’t understand her at all. i went into the show expecting to absolutely love her but she comes across as so entitled and childish. imagine getting mad at your kid for realizing that it’s good sense to have a backup, specially when you’re applying to these uber competitive colleges (also imagine your backup being yale wtf hahah). i also can’t stand parents who’s best friends are their kids. you can be your kid’s best friend but your kid really shouldn’t be your best friend. also what is lorelai’s obsession with dean? do people not find that a bit weird? he was constantly jealous and insecure anytime rory was with jess and lorelai knew how he was but didn’t think to mention to rory that it’s not exactly healthy for her to be scared of telling dean stuff because of how he’ll react, but instead tells her that she got really lucky with her first boyfriend. i mean she goes and tells dean that just because he and rory broke up doesn’t mean that he and lorelai broke up too how is that not weird to more people??? AND what is her beef with jess?? like she’s a grown ass adult and he’s an actual child lmao how is he the villain of her story. i don’t really like lorelai gilmore at all, i wish someone had warned me what she’s like so i was more prepared for it

#gilmore girls #anti lorelai gilmore #<- just in case this is more critical than it is anti #but i’m unfamiliar with the workings of the gilmore girls fandom so better safe than sorry #rory gilmore #dean forester #jess mariano #anon <3

[endiness]

lorelai's unhinged reaction to jess accidentally crashing a car (and to avoid hurting an animal at that) makes her so completely unlikeable.

#!txt: gg #anti lorelai gilmore

[we-pay-for-everything]

Salty Ask List (Gilmore Girls +) 10, 12 & 23

10. Most disliked arc? Why?

These are all hard questions!! Rory's arc in the AYITL isn't great. She should've gotten together with Logan and not have cheated on her boyfriend. Still, I actually love Rogan in the revival and think Rory's arc had some positives. Perhaps Rory and Logan's breakup in the last episode? Do you know I've never actually watched the last two or so episodes because I didn't want to see the breakup? It's been so long I'd forgotten I hadn't watched them lmao.

This is hard! I think anything involving Luke and Lorelai? Like their relationship in seasons 5 and 7 in particular. Also, Lorelai and Max. I hated them. Their relationship was terrible and annoyed me so much. Lorelai decided dating her daughter's teacher was, for some reason, okay, and he was garbage too. I can't even remember why I hated them but I did.

With Gilmore Girls, there aren't a lot of actual arcs to dislike. It's more like certain relationships, scenes, episodes, character moments... It's hard to think of an actual arc, sorry.

12. Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

I love Logan and Logan and Rory unlike a big portion of this fandom, so... Like I said above, I like their relationship in AYITL a lot. I like how domestic and mature they are despite the cheating, and their last scene together is incredibly touching.

In that same vein, I liked Rory's arc in season 6. It was realistic and relatable to me, and I probably like Rory and Logan's relationship the most in that season.

I also actually liked Rory's arc in season 4. The cheating with Dean was well-done - the build-up to it, I mean. I liked seeing Rory lost and unsure of herself for the first time, because college is hard, and I liked her fallout with Lorelai. Lorelai was not a perfect mother at all and I hate that the show never acknowledged how she forced Rory to be her best friend except when she wanted Rory to obey her - then she pulled the mom card. Rory gave more than she took, and Lorelai could shrug off the responsibility of being a mother since she was "self-sufficient". Anyway, I understood why Rory turned to Dean, and I understood Dean too. What I didn't like was how quickly they ditched Dean, and how they wrote him. Of course, I didn't expect Dean and Rory to be endgame, but Dean was initially so smart and cool. He only became a cavemen so Rory would switch to Jess. He was sweet again in season 4, but the writers didn't want the golden child with a prospectless nobody like Dean - he was dumbed down so much...

An even more unpopular opinion might be that I like Chris and Lorelai a lot more than Lorelai and Luke and was rooting for them in season 7. I wish Chris and Lorelai had made it. I liked them in season 7, especially with Gigi.

23. Unpopular character you love?

I'm fond of Dean because he was so young and the writers screwed him over. I like Chris too. Oh, and I like Zack. I like him and Lane. Their wedding episode was so cool - that's another unpopular arc I liked, I guess. Is it unpopular to love Lane's mother? Because I love her. Mrs. Kim grew so much for the sake of her daughter. Their relationship was heart-warming and by far the best mother-daughter relationship in the series - one of the best relationships in general.

That's it! Thanks for the ask! I've forgotten so much about the show, so it's hard to explain myself properly haha.

Send me a salty ask!!

#ask meme #gg #gilmore girls #rory gilmore #logan huntzberger #rogan #anti lorelai gilmore #anti javajunkie #dean forester #lane kim #thanks for the ask! #awesome mutuals

[jessmmariano]

If I think about Jess’s childhood/high school years too much I get sad because no one deserves that. And Gilmore Girls just glosses over it.

I get that’s not the tone of the show, but how on earth did Liz get a redemption plot? Meanwhile, so many fans hate Jess just because he made mistakes at seventeen. His mother was an alcoholic and addict who drank while she was pregnant. Jess worked two jobs while in high school so he could be financially secure. It was heavily implied that Liz was constantly dating/marrying men who mistreated her and Jess. Yet so many fans continue to hate Jess.

#Jess deserves better #jess mariano #rory gilmore #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #stars hollow #luke danes #liz danes #anti liz danes

[weepynymph]

ALSO

I've just noticed when lorelai and rory are fighting about rory sleeping with dean, the exact point at which rory storms out and says 'i hate you for ruining this for me!' is after lorelai says 'but you broke up with him [dean]. you picked someone else.'

Like out everything she says that's the thing that has rory running out of the room - the tiniest hint of jess' existence. his name isn't even mentioned.

I will die on the hill that rory sleeping with dean has EVERYTHING to do with what happened with jess the episode before and the fact that she still loves him but wishes she didn't and kind of wishes she'd never met him and by extension never broke up with dean and is trying to put things back the way that they were.

#like COME ON #hes all over this season even when he isn't physically there or even mentioned by name #rory gilmore #jess mariano #gilmore girls #literati #jess x rory #anti dean forester #lorelai gilmore #gilmore girls meta #literati meta

[queenunderthatmountain]

do you ever just think about how it might have been if Jess had moved in with Luke just a few years earlier

#I do and i cry #Luke being the first one ever to fight for Jess #Luke just collecting kids without a dad as his #Luke Danes #Jess mariano #Gilmore Girls #lorelai gilmore #luke x lorelai #Rory gilmore #Literati #Rory x Jess #Ayitl #Liz Danes #Anti Liz #Anti Liz Danes #Paris Geller #milo ventimiglia

[femmedefandom]

side eye at how Lorelai in season 2 starts sleeping together with Christopher in full view of the gossip happy SH with zero shame (grinning like a fool to be exact) despite the fact that he’s still together with his long time live in girlfriend Sherry/Cheri, not sure how she spells it. Christopher is so cavalier about the relationship being basically done even though he hasn’t even TALKED TO HIS GIRLFRIEND about breaking up, he’s just ghosting at this point. nothing but happiness to be with the guy she has “so much history with”, who people thought she would end up with, who has always been on the back burner of possibility now that he has his life together. even though he’s not broken up. even though S/C thinks they’re still together. even though separation hasn’t even been discussed with the girlfriend or Rory. none of this matters to Lorelai because Christopher is hers. And then it blows up in her face with the pregnancy. So when Rory starts up a sexual relationship with a guy she has history with, who was always on the back burner pining for her, who people said she should be with, who is still together with his wife but the “relationship is over”……why wouldn’t she think her mother would support her?

#gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #anti christopher hayden #anti dean forester #anti lorelai gilmore #Lorelai is not a model for healthy relations #Christopher and Dean are scumbags #Rory is a confused and manipulated kid with bad role models who made a dumb choice when emotionally vulnerable

[saltygilmores]

THOUGHTS WHILE WATCHING GILMORE GIRLS: S3/EP6: TAKE THE DEVILED EGGS Original Air Date: Nov 5, 2002

Links to all previous episodes can be found in my Pinned Post.

Pre Opening Credits Filler: Lorelai and Rory are sorting junk mail . Of course I had to google whether or not "Shreiber's" was ever a real catalog. Google results were inconclusive. Lorelai's Poconos shirt is really cute.

Post opening credits sequence: A town meeting.

Miss Patty and Babette are too good for this world.

I love seeing Luke smile. As the entire room rises to exit, Taylor instructs them not to leave and everyone immediately listens. I will never understand how he has this much power or why Luke dutifully attends every one of thse things.

Stefon from SNL voice: This hot new club, Stars Hollow Town Meeting, has everything. Animal cruelty, blind obedience, women who pick up dates at funerals, politicians dunking on neurodivergent loners, protest supression.

(tac·i·turn /ˈtasəˌtərn/ adjective (of a person) reserved or uncommunicative in speech; saying little.)

Pretty rich for Lorelai to be dunking on loners when the guy she's in love with has no friends and her daughter has one friend.

At least the loner must be intelligent. Evidenced by the fact that he doesn't waste his time in town meetings. But seriously...imagine you're this guy minding his own business just trying to buy some books and enact political change with protest so the mayor-type-guy calls everyone in town together to dunk on how weird and creepy and quiet you are behind your back (see also: Jess, who was also a child. And who also has to endure shitty comments about not being talkative enough).

Is Kirk the only neurodivergent person in Stars Hollow who is allowed to be himself?

With our powers combined, we are our the Neurodivergent And/Or Deeply Misunderstood Outcast Super Squad! Kirk! A guy who talks to mailboxes! A quiet guy who likes books! Another quiet guy who likes books! Town Troubador! Rory!

Look who else is way too smart to waste his time at a town meeting. His precious whacking off time is over, Luke is heading home, and he is outta here.

Now, let's say the Gilmore Girls in-show timeline lines up with the air dates of the episodes (which it tends to do much of the time). "Teach Me Tonight" aired April 30th, 2002. This episode aired on November 5th, 2002. 6 months and 6 days prior to this town meeting. Rory's not-even-broken arm has healed. Lorelai, kindly...get the fuck over it and shut up. Lorelai: when did Jess get a car? Luke: None of your god damn beeswax. Luke had no idea Jess had a car.

I always found it interesting that Jess was raised in the city his whole life, but knew how to drive. Many (but not all) New Yorkers get around on foot or public transportation and many never even learn to drive at all. But there's just no way Liz was a New Yorker who had a car that Jess could borrow, she wasn't helping him practice, she wasn't paying for lessons with an instructor, and before he arrived in The Hollow the only life he knew was getting around on public transport and walking. We come to learn he knows a bit about car repair as well. And he's only 18. Definitely not saying it's implausible or unbelievable that he knows how to drive. Far from it. Just something to ponder. Jess is scrappy. He finds a way. Lorelai has the absolute fucking audacity to tell Luke "You needs to get a handle on Jess" because he wasn't aware of this car purchase. How about you get a handle on your perfect child before she sleeps with her married ex boyfriend and steals a boat huh. How bout them apples.

OMG OMG.

Narrator: Lorelai Gilmore was in fact, not sorry for equating a 6 month old minor car accident that caused a hairline wrist fracture with 1st degree murder, and she would not butt out now or ever again.

#gilmore girls #denise rewatches gilmore girls #salty is Lorelai Gilmores number one hater #salty rages #gilmore girls season 3 #anti lorelai gilmore #luke danes #miss patty #babette #taylor doose #TDDE #Take The Deviled Eggs #Salty Rages #blood pressure rising

[anxiouspotatorants]

This whole «Lorelai is evil and so is Rory and Emily is the real MVP of the show» shtick is getting on my nerves.

Like don’t misunderstand me, I love Emily and Richard. They are interesting and complex characters with strengths and weaknesses and a whole lot of baggage (like almost everyone in Gilmore Girls, except maybe the Town Troubador). But they aren’t this perfect well meaning couple with an ungrateful daughter who refuses to accept help and grow up.

Lorelai is not perfect either by any stretch of the imagination. She’s presumptuous, stubborn, used to getting her way and struggles to see things from more than one angle, but she’s also kind, hard working, supportive and able to strike a balance between being open and setting boundaries. She’s a complicated, flawed person, like all good protagonists should be (as opposed to heroes). And she doesn’t fight with Emily or cut her parents out because she’s being immature, she’s doing it because they genuinely hurt her several times.

Imagine if things had gone exactly like Emily and Richard wanted things to go. A 16 year old Lorelai would be married against her will to a guy who would likely then spend the rest of his life under the thumb of his parents for the «mistake» of having Rory. Her social life, her work, her education, all of it would be heavily monitored by Emily and Richard, as they would insist she only engage with what they deem respectable work and social circles. Lorelai in the DAR, Lorelai running charity functions, Lorelai staying married to a Hayden. So much of what makes Lorelai herself would be gone: the inn, her friendships with Sookie and Michel, cooky hobbies and a band of semi-adopted misfits and Luke.

Certain people (not many but still some) seem to forget exactly what it is Emily and Richard ultimately criticize Lorelai for, because it’s not her childish remarks at Friday Night Dinner. They criticize her for her lack of university education. For her lack of a high status job even though she runs a successful inn that she co-owns herself. For her terrible pick of men - not because of how they might be as lovers but because they’re not high society and not the kind of wealthy guys who could let Lorelai retire to the life of an affluent housewife (like did we forget that one of the times Lorelai cut them out was because they refused to accept LUKE?). Hell, they usually don’t criticize Lorelai for reasonable issues with how she raised Rory, they criticize her for not controlling Rory’s love life more.

I do think Emily and Richard love Lorelai and Rory, and that at the end of the day they want them to be happy (otherwise none of these characters would fight so hard to stay in each other’s lives). But time and time again they let their love of status and fear of a bad reputation stand in the way of recognizing their daughter and granddaughter for what they love and for what make them happy. Dislike Lorelai all you want, Rory too, but don’t come here and tell me that Emily is the one in the right.

#I almost never see this take in the Tumblr circles I run in so that’s good #but there seems to be a lot of it almost everywhere else #so I felt like screaming into my personal echo chamber for a while #also I didn’t get too much into Rory or how Richard specifically does this too #because they deserve their own posts #but yeah people do this to Rory too #and Richard isn’t an innocent bystander which is why I write him in with Emily as a unit #gilmore girls #the potato rants #Gilmore girls discourse #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #emily gilmore #richard gilmore #not tagging anti because again I am not anti

[fandomshatewomen]

I see popular tweets about Gilmore Girls and noticed people always ignore Lorelai was a victim of her parents emotional abuse. Both Richard and Emily tried to control every aspect of Lorelai life and tried to do the same with Rory, so much so that they treated their working class boyfriends badly because they weren't upper class. Furthermore, they are both extremely racist and treat their maids poorly. Lorelai is not perfect but as victim of toxic parents it's terrible to see people defend them+

+There was an episode where Rory was excited to see her grandparents until she discovered that her grandparents lied to her and that party they invided her was actually with high society boys so that she could break up with her boyfriend who didn't belong to their social class. Later they destroyed Lorelai's relationship with Luke, who is also a worker. There is so much manipulation, gaslighting and classicism but people ignore it.

+Just saw another thing: Richard and Emily Gilmore saying white blonde rich men are 'good breeding'. Emily even fantasizes about Rory, her granddaughter, having blond, blue-eyed children. How people really say they are the real good guys of the show????

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YUPPPPPPP there’s a *lot* of classism and racism baked into that show that get’s laughed off as Emily and Richard being a product of their time and like, “harmless” or whatever. Amy Sherman Palladino pulled some similar shit in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel with the lead character’s parents, only this time she added some antisemitic caricatures, you know, as a treat 🙃

• mod dyr

#gilmore girls #racism #classism #nostalgia goggles #emily gilmore #richard gilmore #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #gilmore girls crit #anti gilmore girls #(reminder to filter ‘anti’ tags if you cannot handle seeing criticisms of your faves)

[love-geeky-fangirl]

I hate the way everyone always shames Rory for having affairs and getting pregnant when it can all be traced back to her upbringing. Look at how sex negative everyone around her is! I mean I know the show aired at a different time but I think this bit was intentional. Her whole family has so much trauma from Lorelai getting pregnant as a teen and it affected Rory so negatively growing up. Literally all her grandparents and Lorelai have always told her was "Don't you dare come home pregnant!" Emily and Richard called in a priest when she was fucking 21 (not even a teenager anymore!) to talk to her about how sex= bad. Then they moved her in a room next to theirs to stop her from having sex with her boyfriend. Lorelai and Luke were coming up with their own ways to stop her from having sex with Jess when they were both 18 already. Lorelai would much rather Rory is stuck in an unhappy relationship with someone she doesn't even like because at least she won't have sex with him than date someone she actually likes. She was willing to overlook so many of Dean's red flas in his relationship with Rory potentially just because she knew they won't do anything. And remember "I've got the good kid"?

Like okay I understand getting pregnant so young fucked Lorelai up and she doesn't want that future for Rory. But I feel like she made some of the same mistakes in Rory's upbringing as Emily and Richard made in hers. We never actually saw an open conversation between them (this can be maybe blamed on censorship at that time), she was just trying to do everything she could to prevent Rory from doing anything. And the constant fear in the family that Rory will be exactly like Lorelai and follow in her footsteps? Well in my language we have a saying - when you repeat a lie a hundred times it becomes the truth.

#anti lorelai gilmore #sort of #gilmore girls #meta #analysis #in defense of rory gilmore