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kataraavatara · 2 months
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something something the fandom’s outrage over jaehaera being threatened with rape vs the silence on little girls in tumbleton actually being raped something classism
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drakaripykiros130ac · 3 months
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Can you imagine the nerve Aegon the Usurper had when he asked for statues to be built in “honor” of his fallen brothers, Aemond and Daeron?
The same Aemond and Daeron who committed the most and worst war crimes throughout the Dance?
I can’t imagine that the people of the entire Realm were too happy to hear that. The Greens are the ones who brought them the most suffering.
And while we’re on the subject, why not commission a statue for Helaena as well? Is it the common Greenish sexism we are well used to or just another indication that Aegon didn’t give a damn about her? After all, he didn’t mourn her, and was very excited to marry Cassandra Baratheon and produce new heirs.
In fact, even though he seemed so “distraught” because of Sunfyre’s death, he was rather quick to replace him as well. He brought all the eggs from Dragonstone (Syrax’s eggs, by the way) and claimed he wanted to hatch a dragon that would be even better than Sunfyre (in contrast to his own father, Viserys, who actually suffered and refused to claim another dragon after Balerion died).
This guy is such a jerk, to say the least.
Luckily, the Gods don’t grant him any favors as he never marries Cassandra Baratheon, never produces anymore children, never gets another dragon, and best of all…once the Black armies seize the Capital and Rhaenyra’s son ascends the throne, the construction of those statues is stopped (another clear indication of the Greens’ defeat).
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thewingedwolf · 8 months
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okay tbh part of why i’m a daeron the daring hater is bc i just don’t get the appeal of him, like he is just as much of a war crimey flop as every other character in that entire era, and he doesn’t even have a weird psychosexual relationship with a milf to make me interested in him so what is his POINT exactly
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fragileheartbeats · 7 days
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out of all of King Viserys’ children, Rhaenyra is obviously the most qualified/most competent to sit the Iron Throne. There is no question about that.
Excuse me what?😂 Are you fr? If yes can you please give me a reason why she's the most suitable to sit on Iron throne? Because she's rightful heir? I'm sorry but that's not good enough. We have many Targaryen rulers and they were rightful heir, but you know... they fucked up, so it's not a convincing reason.
Actually she was the only one who wasn't suitable to sit on iron throne. Like we literally saw that, she fucked up so bad in half of a year that even her sons didn't denied what she did and literally there's no Rhaenyra after her, she was a disgrace for her future generations, that's says alot.
She was so bad that she was kicked out, people were tired of her. And then Aegon come and gets everything under his control in like a week while he was physical dead.
The funniest part is that all of green kids actually have something that make them more suitable than Rhaenyra.
First we got Aegon, he's brave, resilient, determined, he's smarter than Rhaenyra, he's protective and he's mentally the strongest and unbreakable. He survived the worst things and still continue. He was literally unbreakable, even towards the end of his life he gained the strength to walk, hardly but yes.
Then we have Helaena. She was a lovely and kind woman, she claimed one of the most badass dragons in the history when she was a kid, she was so loved that people literally gone mad after her death, that's say a lot about the difference between Rhaenyra and Helaena.
Next is Aemond. Smart, brave, a dangerous fighter and he have the biggest fucking dragon that he claimed when he was a kid. Do I need to say more?
And finally Daeron. Oh lord, this guy was smart as fuck and he was the most dangerous even though he was the youngest, he's also brave and loyal to his family. And people actually liked him. He was a fairly kind, clever, and humble guy. Definitely the best among Viserys’ sons.
Now what does Rhaenyra have that makes her comparable to them? What does she have that make her better?
Her age? The fact that she's first born?
Well that's just another reason why she don't deserve to sit on the throne, because she was heir since she was 8 yet she never fit into her position as one in so many years (25 years).
On the other hand Aegon never was heir so he never tried to fit but we see how in a short time (2 years or shorter) he grows and fit his position as king, we see how he live up to his title.
I'm sorry but even the fact that she's first born make her more pathetic.
This amount of delusional is not normal. I'm telling y'all.
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belladonna-kisses · 8 months
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Nobody can convince me Viserys loved Aemma. I don't care what nobody says. I'm not listening. I don't wanna hear it.
And I know Aemma probably in the Seven Heavens fuming- cause imagine your husband murdered you for a son and then later on he gets three sons and neglected them.
HE GETS THREE OF WHAT HE MURDERED YOU FOR AND THEN NEGELCTS THEM!
Viserys deserved the slow death that he got. Infact, it wasn't slow or painful enough.
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the-loststone · 3 months
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HotD Team Green Defense
The amount of people who fail to grasp Team Green's perspective is honestly staggering to me. So many people are Team Black, maybe out of some (misplaced) belief that they are being feminists and advocating for female power, or something like that, and choose to ignore the very legitimate worries and motivations of Team Green. Admittedly, the show has gone out of it's way to villainize Team Green as much as possible, while victimizing Team Black, and deviating from the source material for this narrative. (I would tell them to be suspicious when showrunners do that because they did the same thing to Daenerys in GoT and everyone was surprised when she turned around and burned a city down in a rushed ending because the show never properly developed her arc.) Nevertheless, despite their efforts to make Team Green the less appealing side, if I had to compare motivations, Team Black is the more villainous.
So many people dismiss the fact that for Rhaenyra to secure her throne, she would have to kill her siblings. They write it off as paranoia of Alicent, or ambitions of her and Otto, that they are making excuses for Aegon to be made king instead of Rhaenyra. But that's just not true. These are very real likelihoods. Even if Aegon did not seek the throne, or he and his brothers decided to gracefully allow the succession to pass to Rhaenyra, it would never be peaceful. Just look at Rhaenys and how Corlys is still bitter and Viserys has been worried that they may come after him since she has a right to the throne. That's one of the main benefits in having Rhaenyra marry Ser Laenor was to join their claims. Or look at how worried everyone was of Daemon, and how he may seize power after Viserys. The only thing keeping him alive was his brother's love for him, the fact that their house was dwindling, and no one was fighting on his behalf over Viserys. So if there is every another claimant, it would be a great worry that the side in power may be kicked off by another claimant. And Aegon and his brothers are men, and just by virtue of having dicks, they have a better claim to the throne. All laws, precedent, and cultures in Westeros have male heirs before female heirs. The king's word does not change that. And note that the King only made Rhaenyra his heir over his brother. So technically, the King said "all my children first, including my daughter, then my brother." (Something already controversial because if it was accepted before, Rhaenys would be Queen and he would be nothing). But he never again made a statement for the lords after his sons births. He never reinforced Rhaenyra's succession as his heir outside the privacy of their own quarters. Alicent even said, let the lords come and decide, and make vows, and he and Rhaenyra reject it because they worried the Lords would choose Aegon.
Rhaenyra knows, to inherit without rebellions every few years from lords who are unhappy with her and want to supplant her with her brothers, she would have to kill her brothers and make sure there are no people who can contest her right to inherit.
And this is just Rhaenyra's succession. Now add in the fact that she's claiming illegitimate children as her heirs. Very obvious illegitimate children. Even if Rhaenyra managed to successfully inherit with no push back from anyone, and no one wanted to supplant her with her brothers so she didn't have to kill them then... well guess what, she'll have to kill them to secure her son's ascension to the throne. (And if she won't then Daemon certainly would). And then, even if she does kill all the Greens, then there's the issue of her legitimate children vs. her illegitimate children. Even if the kids grew up to love each other, someone may say, well the first three shouldn't inherit, let's put the legitimate ones on the throne. And then you have a completely different succession crisis.
Viserys' actions may seem to the viewers as promoting girl power and feminism, but that's not what's happening. He's being an abusive, neglectful shit. He's deliberately putting the rest of his children's lives in jeopardy, and even the Strong grandchildren he claims to love, because by keeping them in the succession despite their obvious illegitimacy invites people to contest that. And that's not to say he couldn't have taken steps to remedy this. He could have changed the rules so that succession passes to the eldest child, regardless of gender. But he didn't. He could have acknowledged that his grandchildren were illegitimate and forgiven it and legitimized them as Targaryens, but he didn't (conveniently usurping Valeryons - and people may argue that Baela/ Rhaena can still rule being married to Jace/Luke, but that's not the same as being able to rule in your own right, otherwise, why not take the offer for Rhaenyra to marry Aegon).
But since he didn't do any of these things, the only way to stop the Dance would have been for him to make Aegon his successor. Something that everyone would have been relieved by because it would have prevented war. But he didn't. And so, Alicent has to fight to keep her kids alive. The Greens have to push their claim to survive. Whereas, had Rhaenyra graciously backed off her claim, saying that yes, she had 3 brothers, and while they were younger, the laws and precedent are in their corner to inherit, then she would have lived. People wouldn't have fought for her claim if she hadn't pushed it. Nor would they fight for an illegitimate heir.
But some may say... Well Rhaenyra has more supporters. She does. She has the Velaryons and countless other houses backing her. So do the Greens. (the Greens have the wealthiest houses). But once it becomes a fight to throne, it's less about who has the right, and more about who can offer you the most. Notice the Starks and the Baratheons agree to fight because they'll get a wedding out of it (and the Starks because they'll have somewhere to send people during their current famine). The Vale because of the blood ties. The Lannisters because of past insults. Once it's decided to be a fight, it's never about who actually has a right to the throne, it becomes about who can give you the most so you can help them win it.
And this is what it really comes down to. Rhaenyra had a choice. She can back off, and her family can survive. Her brothers can live. Her sons will live. Or she can inherit, and her brothers can die. And she is perfectly willing for her brothers to die. And some may say that that's a very jaded view to take on Rhaenyra and she would never kill her family if she could help it... but it would be out of her hands. It would be necessary to protect her son's right to inherit and to keep away possible rebellions.
And you know, fine, that's okay. She wants to fight for the throne, more power to her. She can go after the throne and kill her brothers. But I don't think it's right that people say that she's the aggrieved party. She's not. She's the aggressor.
And that is why I'm team Green. Because Alicent is right. Just by living and breathing, Aegon and his brothers are threats to Rhaenyra. And this would have happened no matter who Viserys married. Sure people can be upset that Alicent married her bffs dad (something that only happens in the show because in the books, Alicent is 10 years older than Rhaenyra and they weren't close), but that doesn't mean her children should die because Rhaenyra is the preferred child. That doesn't mean the realm should be thrown into war because Alicent 'seduced' a widow. (And I say that with heavy sarcasm because Viserys is a grown ass man.)
And then there's the argument of who's the better house because of blood purity. It's a ridiculous argument and I'm honestly annoyed by people who are Targaryen purists and believe in the whole, dragon supremacy. Hightower is badass house. A lot of people don't realize that they've been around since The Wall and Winterfell were built (Bran the Builder built Hightower, commissioned by the Lord / King of Hightower). They've been around since before Targaryen's rode dragons. So spare me the ridiculous arguments of who's got the most Targaryen blood. If anything, Team Green is more Westerosi, you know, the country they are trying to rule.
In the end, the show will do what it does best, and disappoint you. Either they'll continue pushing this narrative of girl-boss queen and fail to show the complexity of the political situation that result from Rhaenyra's decisions. Or they might stick to the book and have a complex issue actually displayed and show both Aegon and Rhaenyra's descent into madness.
There are more issues one could delve into. Like the fact that Rhaenyra married Daemon. That either Corlys Velaryon has so much unhinged ambition that he's ignored deaths in his house to side with those who have literally murdered his family (cough cough Vaemond and Laenor) (and the whole Laenor excuse in the show makes no sense because no way in hell are Rhaenyra and Daemon risking that he's ever found and that their kids are declared bastards; it is much cleaner for them to do it like they did in the books and kill him) or there will be serious repercussions from the deaths of Velaryons and continued discussion of the succession of Driftmark/High Tide.
But that's the main summary of my thoughts. 👍
If you made it to the end of my rant. Thank you.
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mhsdatgo · 4 months
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"The title of the book is The Princess and The Queen so the book is about Rhaenicent!!!!11!1!11!1!1!111!!1!"
Respectfully, no. The book being titled after the two women who wanted to be the most powerful ladies of Westeros does not take importance away from the civil war, fought between TARGARYENS, AT ALL.
Aegon II is important. He leads the faction of the Greens (ALONG with his mother and sister wife), he's the Targtower that gave the inbred self proclaimed gods a taste of their own medicine, ALL for the safety of his family. He stepped up when his mother impressed it on him that Helaena, who above all, was his younger sister, would've been sold off to the enemy or literally anyone else that could've locked her away, mistreated her, or used her to make babe after babe.
He literally grew up watching his mother get used and discarded like a whore by her father, y'all think he'd willingly cause Helaena the same pain? Not that it isn't bad or absolutely fucked up, but the only things that are 100% true about him being promiscuous are the times where he's said to grope every serving maid out of reach and two alleged, ALLEGED bastards with them, if you don't count Gaemon as his or the story Mushroom out of all people invented.
He resents his father every day more than the last one. He tries so hard not to be like him, he drowns himself in cups because he can't help but see that a part of that walking corpse is in him. Every time he looks in the mirror is a constant reminder that his very own existence was forced upon both him and his mother, every day he seeks the approval of the woman who was strong enough to put away her trauma, all for him. HER approval, not his father. It's HER he admires the most.
And that character is taken away and stepped on entirely. By making him rape a young maid. By making him say that he will never be enough for Alicent "OR VISERYS". As if Aegon would actually care. Trust me, I wish I could chop his cock off inch by inch like a cucumber, but he's way more than that.
He has his own family, and sure as hell Viserys isn't and will never be a part of it. He is an older brother, his mother's son, a husband, a father. It's THEM he protects. It's THEM he grows a backbone and walks up to the crown that will doom him for. Because somewhere, inside this mess of a man, lies unconditional love for the family he sometimes alienates himself for. Because he hopes, THEY hope, Alicent and Aegon, that one day, their blood will live on because of this near suicide.
But it doesn't. It all crumbles down on them, like sand on their hands on a windy day. They bury the very only reasons they started this whole coup for, the ones that were supposed to bury them. And that's their tragedy. There's no karma, no victory for anyone.
By the time he's finally killed Rhaenyra, he has nothing. He has lost his sons, his brothers, his wife, his realm, his dragon. He's a cripple hanging by a thread. He ignores the advice of killing Aegon the Younger like he did with his mother. He gives up on executing Baela. What did these kids do? What's their fault? Being his cousin and half-nephew? Being his enemies' children? He isn't going to make the nightmare that was life, someone else's. He's tired. He doesn't want anymore war.
THIS is Aegon II Targaryen, not the degenerate piece of shit the show tried shoving down our throats.
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saltywinteradult · 25 days
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The whole Rhaenyra = perfect mother with perfect boys vs. Alicent = terrible mother with terrible boys is such a boring cliche.
There’s no nuance, the writers want to shove it down our throats that only Rhaenyra is the perfect mother, Jace is her perfect heir, Luke is her precious baby who can do no wrong *gag*
Say what you want about Alicent’s kids but at least they have personalities! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I agree. Though in my opinion there's a tiny, tiny grain of truth in that dichotomy (though that doesn't excuse the lack of nuance in the writing). It makes a certain amount of sense to me that Rhaenyra, who had children as an adult and by choice with a man she loved and a supportive husband by her side, would be a better parent than child bride Alicent, who does her best by her children with absolutely no support. Does she succeed completely in raising her children to be good people? No, but how the hell was she supposed to? Abusive, neglectful Viserys is every bit as much if not more to blame for Aegon turning out terrible (if a very entertaining kind of terrible). And say what you will about Aegon or Aemond, they both clearly love Alicent, and Helaena is an angel. (Now can we please get to see Daeron already?!) Rhaenyra though... She loves her kids, I'll give her that, but Jace and Luke grew up to be pretty terrible (and not the entertaining kind of terrible) despite that. So Rhaenyra clearly isn't that much better at parenting than Alicent, despite having far, far more support and ability to be better. And to be clear, I don't think any of this is bad! Like you said, one-dimensionality is boring. Let Rhaenyra be a bad parent for raising her kids on the entitled Targ exceptionalism mindset. Let Alicent be a good parent for fighting tooth and nail to keep her kids safe because no one else will. I want nuance.
And yes, there's a reason I have nothing to say about Jace except that he participates in bullying Aemond. Literally what else is there so say about him?
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thesunfyre4446 · 3 months
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Daeron is the best of all alicent' son because he grew up far away from her
girlie in F&B he was sent to oldtown when he was 12.
but sure, the targtowers - especially aegon and aemond issues are all their teen mom's fault. their r*pist neglectful father had absolutely nothing to do with it...
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On Daeron
Daeron "The Daring" Targaryen is often heralded as being the most stable of Alicent's children and even fairly well adjusted. I disagree with this idea. We know very little about Daeron from the book, and what we do know doesn't paint a very stable picture.
We know Daeron was born around the same time as Jacaerys, making them the same age. Viserys hoped raising them together would help heal the rift between the two families, he was wrong. Daeron grew to have a great rivalry with Jace, and the forced proximity only grew his and his older brothers' hatred of the Velaryons. He was sent to Oldtown when he was twelve to squire for Lord Ormund Hightower, and there he stayed until the Dance began.
So already we've debunked one of the popular headcanons I've seen written in fics. Daeron wasn't the "nice brother", he hated the Velaryons just as much as Aegon and Aemond. We also know that he didn't get away from Alicent and Otto's plotting when he got to Oldtown, if anything it was exacerbated. Daeron was now in the snake's nest, his life now completely devoted to the anti-Rhaenyra ideas his mother was devoted to.
Once the Dance began, Daeron helped win some battles for the Greens, but was purely the puppet of Ormund, never leaving his army. Then came Tumbleton. When Daeron came Lady Caswell and her husband's land, he mercilessly burned it to the ground and massacred the people. He did try to get Lord Hobert Hightower, who had succeeded Lord Ormund when he died during this battle, to stop the brutal sacking of the town, but he was ineffective.
After this, there was much turmoil in the ranks of the Hightower army, as Aemond was dead and Aegon was missing. There were arguments over succession and Daeron supported a plot to kill Ulf White and Hugh Hammer. Before this could happen, Ser Addam Velaryon attacked and killed Ulf and Hugh along with their dragons, dying in the process with Seasmoke. Daeron was killed when his tent collapsed on top of him when it caught fire.
Now what do we learn from these events? Daeron can be just as cruel as his siblings, raining fire down on the innocent smallfolk of Tumbleton. We also know that at sixteen, he had less control over his troops than Jace did. Daeron is not any better than the rest of TG, yes he's younger, but he committed atrocities and hated Rhaenyra and her family simply because he viewed them as inferior.
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crimsonbastard · 11 months
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HoTD Season-2 Fandom Behaviour Predictions
This is a Crack Post, so it's not to be taken too seriously! Add in your predictions on how the Fandom, more specifically Team Black is gonna act once season 2 rolls in.
Do know that Spoilers are below so tread lightly
Blood and Cheese Apologism: Obviously, we've got Team Black drooling over witnessing a 6 Yo Toddler being beheaded and another one being threatened with r*pe. We'll see cringey Instagram and Twitter posts about how it was justified and that "sweet little Lucerys" was avenged.
More Alicent hate: Obviously, we'll have people behaving like degenerates towards Alicent and Olivia Cooke. So God Bless her!
More Criston Cole Hate: Now that war has officially begun, we'll have Criston Cole on the field. And obviously he'll get a lot of hate. In season one, they accused him of being a Misogynist/Incel for not kissing the ground that Rhaenyra walked on. This time around, they'll nitpick all the "war-crimes" he'll be doing.
Sunfyre Hate: Our boy Sunfyre is going to get a lot of hate. Team Black already hates him for being the most beautiful golden boy there was, and for having the best dragon and rider bond. After Rook's rest they're gonna throw tantrums and hate on our boy even more.
Vaghar and Aemond Hate: They hated Vaghar for choosing a "downgrade" after Laena's death. They hated Aemond for stealing Rhaena's "birthright". They got salty by seeing Aemond's glow up. They seethed with rage after Vaghar had a strong snack. They're gonna wish for God's Eye to come even sooner.
Daeron Hate? The Robb Stark of the Greens and the well adjusted youngest kid. Daeron and Tessarion were a force to be reckoned with. Obviously, despite the kid's honorable nature, he'll be hated just for supporting his families. There are already fics of Aemond defecting to the blacks. How long will it be when they target Daeron??
That's all I could think of Folks! Feel free to add yours!!
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yourlocalnetizen · 5 months
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Book!Viserys wasn't a good father to the greens either.
Ok, I do admit he was better than show!Viserys. At least book!Viserys didn't go as far as to say Rhaenyra was his "only child"
BUT STOP PRETENDING HE WAS ANYTHING GOOD!!!
Book!Viserys calls Aegon "Alicent's blood" when she suggests betrothing Aegon & Rhaenyra.
I'm not sure in what world saying that about your own child makes you a good father.
Unlike in the show, I don't think he would have even given betrothing Helaena to Jace a consideration because he doesn't think his children with Alicent are even good enough to be consorts.
He was upset Alicent wanted her own blood on the throne, and he betrothed Aegon & Helaena himself and made them marry at 15 & 13. (What a loving father! At least he cares about them enough to make 1 horrible decision regarding their lives right?)
Now let's get to his biggest offence. Aemond's eye.
Am I faulting him for loving Rhaenyra & Luke? No.
Was he as asshole for scolding Aemond over rumors instead of being worried for his well being? Yes.
The very least he could have done is make Luke apologize since he did disable Aemond for life, but NO, he has to make Aemond feel ever worse.
I know book!Aemond was a bully and an asshat ok (and what he does to Luke later isn't justified), but let's not pretend that he wasn't a victim in this particular situation.
"But he was a good father to Helaena! He loved her and her kids."
Wow, amazing how he got along well with the daughter who listened to his every whim and never once complained to him or demanded he listen to her desires.
He was also such an amazing father to her he let her get knocked up at 13 or 14 by her 15 year old brother who he forced her to marry when Rhaenyra didn't have to marry until she was 17. Truly father of the decade!
(Obviously the Rhaenyra thing is not great either but it's very different from being a literal middle schooler.)
Oh, and I'm definitely sure he definitely would have supported Helaena if she ever had bastards that were so obviously not Aegon's.
And wow, how amazing is it that he didn't neglect his teen daughter's children.
Truly something we should be praising him for, but let's remember if Luke ever cut out any of Helaena's children's eyes, you can sure bet beloved girldad Viserys would be on her side.
(Oh, and nothing is mentioned about his relationship with Daeron ever apart from the fact he wanted him to be besties with Jace. Not unlikely he may have forgotten he had a 5th child just like show!Viserys.)
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drakaripykiros130ac · 3 months
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“Daeron is a good boy” - certain people write of Alicent’s spawn.
Tell that to all the innocent people of Bitterbridge, who were burned alive by him.
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aangopologist · 1 year
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Love how GRRM tried with every fiber of his being to make Team Green look like losers only for them to turn out more merciful and competent than Team Black
-Team Green only had 3 dragonriders Vs Team Black 7 dragonriders and they still make it hard for the blacks, to the point Daeron is considered the biggest threat to Rhaenyra.
-Daemon and Rhaenyra had Aegon's son killed and had their sights on the other one, but despite having tbe opportunity to, Aegon refused to kill Rhaenyra and Daemon's son.
-Daemon 50 smth ass had to die to defeat his nineteen year old nephew (in an incredibly illogical battle btw)
Martin knew he wanted the Blacks to "win" (in the sense their child sits on the throne because it's the beginning of the end for the Targaryens from now on) but didn't properly edit the story and as result ended making the Green look much better than he intended to
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fragileheartbeats · 14 days
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𝐊𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐕𝐢𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐬 𝐈 𝐓𝐚𝐫𝐠𝐚𝐫𝐲𝐞𝐧 𝐂𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧
𝗔𝗲𝗴𝗼𝗻: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥
𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗮𝗲𝗻𝗮: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘥
𝗔𝗲𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗱: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘵
𝗗𝗮𝗲𝗿𝗼𝗻: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘴
𝗥𝗵𝗮𝗲𝗻𝘆𝗿𝗮: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘭𝘺, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘳𝘶𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘶𝘱𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘥, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴
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linberlyy · 2 months
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another stupid judgment that is worth your attention.
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First of all, who is blaming Ceryse and for what? Has anyone seen any comments towards her or any accusations? tell me if you have seen this so that I can at least have an idea... back to the point, “we don’t have a single proof that Maegor abused her in the marriage”. Ok, then how do you explain the fact that he called her barren and, without the knowledge of the king and the sept (and this sept was run by Ceryse’s father), took a second wife, then a third and subsequent ones? Isn't this an abuse? After all, he didn’t even bother to divorce her in order to somehow preserve her honor, but simply took others as wives. and, if you believe the book, then Maegor returned to Oldtown in 43 and reconciled with Ceryse, which means that all this time before that they not only had not seen each other, they had not even spoken and were not close. Isn't this an abuse? Would a man who respects his wife leave her for many years to find new girls? I don’t know, at least turn on your brain.
“Ceryse could wait for Maegor to grow up than sleep with a 13 y.o boy”. Do you even know how this world works? If Maegor had not been a thoughtful, capable man, Aegon would not have married him. and judging by the book, he was burning with passion for Ceryse and did not complain that she took his virginity. or do you want to say that Ceryse is bad and was lying with a little boy? You may be surprised, but this is her responsibility, since she is the wife, and for the marriage to become official, they must consummate it. This is how marriages worked in the Middle Ages, and if this shocks you, then I have bad news for you.
And let's be honest: tbs hate Ceryse because she's HIGHTOWER. and as we know, the Hightowers are evil😁 I don’t know, at least watch the correct version of the show, and not your pro-black version and don’t hit me in the eyes.
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Daeron may not be innocent, but he did everything to ensure his family survived. for some reason you don’t condemn the same Daemon, who also did everything so that his family would win, for example, he didn’t even hesitate to kill a truly innocent baby of an innocent woman) Daeron didn’t kill innocents. yes, remember Bitterbridge. it was there that little Maelor was torn to pieces, leaving pieces of meat in his place. or do you think that even after this, Bitterbridge did not deserve his reprisal? then, again, back to Daemon: Aemond killed Luke, so why is he taking revenge? If Daeron couldn't avenge his nephew, then why would Daemon avenge a man who wasn't even his son? Do you see the logic in these judgments?
Yes, during the war women are raped, children are killed, cities are burned, but what did you want? that unicorns will jump on rainbows and fart sweet poop? War has always been accompanied by cruelty, and I don’t see the point in blaming both sides for this. I just find it funny when one side is blamed, but everyone completely forgets about the actions of the other and makes them look like innocent angels. Either take off the cross or put on panties.
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