#and she lied and cheated

[and-to-you-its-just-words]

Once again thinking about Marcus Dunn standing in theatre, looking at Bernie Wolfe and saying “She would tell me, my Bernie” like that’s not one of the most devastating lines I’ve ever heard.

#yes yes yes Bernie and Serena belong together #and it’s awful that Bernie was closeted so long #she shouldn’t have to be in that marriage #BUT #neither should Marcus #he shouldn’t have to be in a relationship where he’s doing all the work because she’s never there (and doesn’t want to be there) #but he LOVES her #I’m never going to shut up about how I wish we got to see more of Bernie and Marcus #it’s fascinates me so #I don’t think Marcus is a bad guy #I’ll say it and mean it #to think he’s been sitting at home late and night and worrying about what is Bernie is doing so far away #but reassuring himself that no she would tell him #because they love each other and even if it’s not the best they’ve known each other for years #they respect each other #their marriage was built on friendship #but he was wrong #and she lied and cheated #and in the end he didn’t even get the dignity of hearing it from her #his Bernie #bernie wolfe #marcus dunn #holby city

[spacelolli]

One of the things that fuck me up abt Slay the Princess is that you can take everything everyone says at face value and none of it really gets refuted in the end. The revelations later in the game is the same information again but with a new perspective. Thats it.

In the end, the player is presented with the same choice as in the very beginning. Except you Know More Now. Its such a delicious narrative structure i have trouble putting it into words

#the princess and narrator are only ever honest with the player #even when the princess lies or cheats shes very transparent about it #slay the princess

[the-lark-ascending69]

Watching ST1 and surprised by just how much Nancy lies. She lies even when she has no reason to, like when she's hanging out with Steve and his friends and wants to leave, she could have easily said something like "I need to do something" or "I'm tired" but she made up some excuse about her mom. When asking Barb's mom about Barb, she could have easily told her she was worried but she didn't. Girl just lies like it's second nature to her.

#she doesn't lie like robin. robin lies for survival #for robin lying and cheating are the weapons life has given her. she's not strong or brave but she's extremely cunning #a fast talker and even faster thinker who can get herself out of almost any situation with her wit and silver tongue #nancy lies like it's a sickness. like she can't help herself. she lies like she's never learned how to be truthful #it's like a vice or an addiction. she's bad at it too. it barely just gets her out of trouble sometimes because people are too uncomfortable #to demand answers from her. at best she can buy herself a few extra seconds of time. #for robin lying is a knife tightly gripped in her hand for nancy it is a boiling poison in her blood and she can't get it out of her #ronance #< target audience

[druidberries]

an amazing end to an amazing party 🖤

previous // next

when Sophia came inside to get ready for bed, she saw the texts from Anthony...

#tjolgen1 #OKAY SO #first of all #MARRIEDDD #the reason they got married in the backyard in their SWIMSUITS #is bc these 2 are obsessed w each other #they want to be married NOW #but theyve wanted their wedding to be on spooky day #so they decided to get married surrounded by everyone on love day and then next spooky day they'll have a full on wedding <33 #also not that you can see but everyone was very happy #now mr anthony 🙄 #not that she knows this but he cheated on her so 🧍‍♀️ #ts4 #ts4 legacy #sims 4 #sims 4 legacy #tjolc #save: tjol #tjol: elowen stein #tjol: sebastian stein #tjol: raven stein #tjol: lucien stein #tjol: sophia brady #tjol: charlie clark #tjol: xylithe vega #tjol: anong jackson #tjol: hua li #tjol: marjan shabani

[fumifooms]

I think some inherent comfort of the party’s relationship, of why they’re so tightly knit and wholesome, is that it’s kinda the embodiment of "people that care for each other unconditionally, so much so that you could be the biggest freak on Earth and they would still not turn their back to you". Like, Laios’ whole character arc is that he was scared of others and their judgement, that he should hide a big part of himself and his interests to be tolerated if not accepted… But showing himself to others was the road through which the party bonded and got closer, and by the end of the story Laios literally turns into his monster because it was his biggest wish and everyone sees it and also he eats his human body a lot. After that he runs to the woods and is so scared of everyone not wanting to see him again, but y’know what. It’s fine his party still loves him, and aghhhh ouch my heart

I think also, Izutsumi was central to the party having a found family feel. The party was mostly made of work colleagues acquaintances, but adopting a stray/teenager that has no one on the way in your grand adventure really makes the whole family vibe skyrocket.

#Laios is kinda that “be so authentically yourself that it inspires others” thing #Dungeon meshi manga spoilers #SPOILERS #Dungeon meshi #The new year drafts purge #But yeah like. Be a little too ready to do necromancy? Y’know we don’t LIKE it but. It’s okay we’ll stick by ya. #Bro you CHEATED on your wife?? I am giving you the death stare forevermore but like I still care about you I’ll be worried if a horse break #Your arm. Oh you lied bc not knowing why she left you makes you feel foolish? HUH. Anyways I’m going to shower you in optimism #Sorry marchil possessed me again #If you’re a nasty cat teen who introduced yourself to everyone by threatening murder with a knife and doesn’t respect anyone or anything #… Sigh ok you can still snuggle with me in bed. #The ‘I will not eat any monster no I refuse’ to ‘asking a kingdom’s worth of people to indirectly eat your friend’s sister’ pipeline real #The pipeline is understanding and good faith and unity and love #meta

[loomsims]

Eddy's lovey dovey feelings were abruptly cut short when Niamh finally, and quite casually, reveals the truth. Edward was shocked to find out that Niamh and Maverick were officially together! He was even more hurt seeing as they've known each other, and have been romantically involved with one another longer than Maverick's been on the island!

#ts3 #ts3 gameplay #ts3 screenshots #ts3 simblr #*mnsc:gen1 #midnight sun challenge #*Edward Li #*Niamh Boyce #LMAOOOOO #getting with someone you've known for less than a day is crazy asf like cmon now.... #i took this very much personally #like how COULD she #i mean she didn't technically cheat but damn girl you couldn't just break things off?? she said let me get my fill in first 👅 #YOU FREAKY FROG! >:(

[lesbianpegbar]

i WILL say that qian jin just being the most sopping wet pathetic (derogatory) character fucked so hard like i didn’t care at all but then they pulled out the yeah he killed his wife who was pregnant with his child for literally no reason other than a hunch lol and it made me laugh so hard at how stupid he is i wanted to throw up

#they kinda pulled me back #the most L bozo character in the whole world oh my god #‘but but i’m a cop i knew she was cheating my investigations are never wrong’ like OKAY die maybe fucking idiot #link click spoilers #shi guang dai li ren #mine

[torgawl]

qian jin is such a fun character. i love that he just casually wants to commit uxoricide. he's just not someone you can be sympathetic towards, he isn't the villain with secret altruistic or desperate motivations. he not only has no real valid motives but his goal isn't even to save his wife or go back to the life he had where he could have had a kid of his own. he doesn't even care the ammount of lives he has to sacrifice to feel like he's avenging his own suffering. he's just so down in his own fantasy and so down in his own pain that he's just unapologetically a piece of shit. both him and tianchen and xixi's father are representations of the man under the patriarchy. i honestly think it's kind of ironic how the kids escaped their own father just to be brought up by someone who is the embodiment of the things they wanted so bad to get away from as well

#how both blamed their wives of cheating despite it not being true being so consumed with rage their solution is to kill... good parallels #i honestly feel bad for xiao li because it must be kind of sad to see someone you saw as a friend or a colleague just become #someone you don't recognise anymore and not even being able to justify it #okay but i didn't even comment on this yesterday but I WAS SO HAPPY JUAN WANG IS ALIVE AGSJSHSJ #i really thought she was dead 😭 #thank you for saving the pretty woman gay people like <3 #at least something good happened you know #link click

[gertritude]

i wanted to read something trashy on webtoon (oxymoron etc etc) and so i read part of “marry my husband” and.  i think i am going crazy but i think with better writing, the antagonist (sumin) could possibly be an insanely compelling character.  like main character material and all that

#stories with such black-and-white takes on human nature are sooo annoying #but anyway like #a woman so desperate to have a 'good life' that she just compulsively lies and cheats all the time is extraordinary compelling actually #...what the hell am i saying im talking about a popular webtoon those always suck ass #*takes drag of cigarette #still not as bad as true beauty at least

[bluffmotel]

while only a minority share this view, i do find it somewhat tone deaf when people claim jay's ending is the best outcome for an abuse survivor -- either directly or indirectly implying everyone in the holt house was an abuser that jay, their sole little victim, had to get away from. for starters, none of his endings are happy ones. not even the fugitive path where he's holed up amongst nature, has a dog, and is bathed in solitude. maybe if you close your ears to what jay's saying during that scene you could see this as good for him, but his dialogue is stifled with an achingly loneliness, a sadness. this idea that he craved being alone in the wilderness is not one jay paints himself, it's only something that's said by tyler ; someone who clearly doesn't understand the younger on any level, much less grasps his desires. yes, jay wanted out, he likes nature, though no human can stew in their own space for years without this affecting them mentally. and that's not even taking into account that his entire life is over! he can't travel, he can't visit other countries or get lost in other areas of wood lands or plains, jay is infinitely stuck where he is. it's not a prison cell but it's a cage nonetheless, as the old saying goes : a golden cage is still a cage, after all. he tells zoe these beautiful sights have grown dull on him, laments about missing his family, vanessa, and is so chained by his want for connection he reaches out to a desert dream victim of all people. like, what about this muted cynicism, this barren home, seems happy? maybe he wanted this, some whimsical dream of this, before. now though? it's not what jay thought it'd be, and he lacks any power to change it. this is not some amazing ending for abuse survivors, it's still sad in a melancholy way, simply because jay is visibly unhappy with said circumstances.

but moving on to this, ah, ‘poor little victim in a lion's den’ narrative ... what? i think a lot of people fail to grasp how complex the holt household is in terms of toxicity and abuse. something that's very common nowadays due to how much people project rather than see what's in front of them. and don't get me wrong! projection is fine, you do you, we all consume and parse through media differently -- but this narrative is, by canon evidence, rather fictional. to be completely blunt, jay is not the only victim stuck in the holt house ?? the abusers have always been bear ( physical abuse, verbal degradation ) and sharon ( passive in the face of her kids' abuse, emotional manipulation ) ... and we are literally told point blank by the story itself and another character that these two favored jay immensely compared to their other children. now i'm obviously not saying that he has not faced trauma, he has! favoritism in a house like this does not shield you from the toxicity, sometimes that favor makes things worse, but he was protected to an extent, in ways tyler and dale were not. those two very clearly faced the brunt of bear's physical abuse ; for each other, for jay, and just overall caught their dad's ire more because they stood up to him. tyler takes a beating, a sight that's not at all new by his grim acceptance of this and the fact he states he's been doing this since young :

so, this is normal for tyler. getting beaten by his dad ( which isn't even mentioning the horror story bear can tell to ash, about how he literally threatened to cut tyler's ear or finger off ) and having his mom overall turn a blind eye to it, even going as far as to dismiss this fighting as childish behavior rather than what it is. and dale? we don't see much of him and bear in general, yet the second he steps up to defend tyler, with something as measly as a shove back, bear wastes zero time in hitting him so hard he's practically out of commission for the rest of the fight. he didn't even think about it, merely swung at dale as hard as possible on instinct alone before tyler hastily stepped up to defend him. what happens when jay tries stopping the fight, though?

both parties grab for him so they can toss him out of the way so he doesn't possibly get hurt. you can speculate bear was only doing this in order to finish his punishment on tyler, he'd deal with jay later whatever, although why not punch him like dale? why, out of all the moves on his belt, does he do the more merciful option? bear, who is nothing if not made of violence and has been molded to respect it? his fist that's raised in the air isn't for jay, since the next frame is jay shoved out of the way and him hitting tyler again ... hell, in dialogue where bear and jay are sitting on their porch, the youngest can even say bear beats on tyler and dale specifically. why not say “you beat on us”? like, the game is heavily implying that while jay is traumatized, there are some methods of abuse he simply did not face. one of them being the physical abuse prominent at home. and no, i'm not counting whatever pranks dale's pulled on jay ( like shooting him six times with a bb gun lmao ) because honestly? that's just older brother behavior, and we know that despite the morbid pranks, he still looked out for jay in the ways that counted. like protecting him from pa and to an extent tyler, something which, again, jay says himself!

back on topic a bit, the notion people seem to have of jay and his family seems overly simplified to me. people just looked at dale being his usual asshole self and went ‘abuser’, people looked at tyler's rather drastic and not usually like himself reactions to a high stress situation and went ‘abuser’, and that's a bit ridiculous to me. can't say i'm shocked! since so many people nowadays just see someone mean to their favorite character and decide woobifying said fave while demonizing their opposing force is exactly what canon intended. as dusk falls couldn't be a game more clear about it's main theme of family and the fact there's no purely good or bad people in this world, two statements that correspond directly to the holt family. are they bad for each other? probably! but that's a different discussion compared to, say, every single soul in that house violently abused poor jay and they should reap the consequences of that. dale and tyler, like their beloved younger brother, are also victims of abusive parents and a toxic home life. in turn, they both show signs of this abuse in ways that aren't entirely sympathetic or easy to swallow, especially when they've been dealing with it longer than jay and have never had their parents' favor the way he did. i see people get angry at tyler for the famous cabin scene, but nobody turns a critical eye to sharon ; who for all intents and purposes is watching this unfold without a care. she never physically stops tyler and her attempts to kill the fight are weak compared to her previously steely commands. and, honestly, the fact that tyler was that stressed about sharon getting on that bike so she can be protected, when she's the most capable out of the three of them, is way more strange than tyler's outburst -- when he's in a high stress situation, his baby brother's dead, and his life as he knows it is over. a life he didn't even have to begin with, since it was stolen due to his abusive upbringing.

whether this excuses what he did or not is entirely up to the player! i personally don't think it does, though i also understand where this is coming from and the game makes it clear this is not usual tyler behavior. throughout other people's views it's hammered into us that tyler has a cool head relatively, is the most sensible and smart out of his brothers. so, no, i do not think he was choking jay out all the time for his misplaced resentment -- i think his obvious disliking came from his stilted interactions with jay, and his lack of bond with him at all. we see in book one two times he reaches out to jay, demanding that he eats ( a minor, small thing to fret and worry about ) as well as panicking when he sees jay away from the rest of them during a shoot out. dale constantly looks out for jay as well, going as far as to take the heat from romero if they get caught and something as small as taking blame for jay's mistake in the barn scene. are his brothers more prone to violence and apathy? sure! yet they clearly love jay regardless. abusive households are not easy and see through. in fact in many cases the different levels of abuse the kids suffer does breed life altering resentment later on, envy that can damage these bonds permanently. honestly the holt family intrigues me deeply because of how well written they were as a unit, the effects of abuse and toxicity subtle and not overt in a ‘psa message’ kinda way. and these horrible relationships and ideals shared do not negate from the even more horrible fact that there is love in this messed up family, even bear clearly loves his sons, but that doesn't make it better. it almost makes it worse, seeing all the good intentions and care. knowing it doesn't excuse what they've done to each other nor does it make them better. they're a picture perfect family of an ugly wound! which is fascinating! i only wish more people saw that wonderfully shown depth rather than this bland and lukewarm take on the holts overall.

jay is a victim, he is traumatized, he deserved to one day spread his wings and put some distance between himself and his family ... but he was not the only one who deserved that ending, and he was not the only victim there. he was merely the only one with easy to parse trauma responses.

#as dusk falls #interior night #jay holt #dale holt #tyler holt #the holt family #meta post #ngl i'll make fancier tags eventually because i do not wanna clog the adf tag but this'll do #this was not supposed to be my first post yet i feel very strongly about this topic and the holts so um #here we go i guess! #cannot stress enough the literal dev of interior night has said the holts do want what's best for each other #they just have different ideas of what that best is! so it comes out wrong and warped and sometimes mean spirited #but they aren't just 2-bit abusers with signs on their heads saying : i hate jay and abuse him on the regular im a monster kill me #like do you know how much it wrecked me going through variations of the jay in prison scenes and seeing him say like #that tyler might even be happy out there as a fugitive. and that jay wants that for him? for tyler to be happy? #even jay himself comes into his wisdom which has always been there and acknowledges his love for his family #and the fact tyler and dale were miserable going on the way they were. just like he was! #the game centers around the holts and the walkers because they are two families that love each other and fumble the landing of it #jim lies to vince over something unforgivable. yet lying is all he knows. yet he did it out of a selfish love for his son #michelle cheats on vince which is awful and tries to paint it as something not important but she loves vince #is even willing to let him indulge in petty revenge ( which is missing the point ) so that they can stay together! #terrible things they're doing but it never takes away from the fact they love vince and zoe #a sentiment echoed by the holts! #idk like i know this take might get me killed but seeing morally gray games get the black and white treatment kills me #you are missing the true brilliance of adf's writing! you are missing some amazing characters! #also jay is not some unflawed creature. he literally can get so jealous over some girl that he isn't dating to the point of MAIMING a guy #he could've killed todd. he probably almost did! vanessa even says he might be more like his family than he thinks #and even if you don't choose this option it is still inside him. this paranoid jealousy and brutal violence #he can shoot vince or watch him die. he can let his dad die. he can bury someone alive. he can kill a cop and some poor ranger #dale and tyler and jay might be different characters and were shaped differently but they're still the same at their core

[novelconcepts]

hi novel! i just saw your yellowjackets and american gods post and you managed to articulate something that's been rattling around in my head since I saw the first episode. I feel like in popular culture, "lost in the wilderness stories" like lord of the flies tend to be viewed as "watch these people become uncivilized." But with the yellowjackets, they're not necessarily becoming uncivilized - they're just creating a new society / culture that has set roles (butcher, acolyte, prophet, etc) and rituals (the card game, the masks, etc.). One of my favorite things has been watching the team slowly develop the customs that will eventually become the well rehearsed hunt we see in 1x01. Like I got really excited seeing Shauna cover her face with the scarf to carve up Javi because I was like "oh is this why the end up wearing the animal masks." To your point, if you built a society from scratch and were isolated in it for almost 2 years because that's the only way you could survive, it's probably very hard to return to the old one which is also essentially new. Blame it on my sociology degree but I fucking love analyzing this show and your meta is amazing.

Yes, this exactly! Like we love to pretend these stories are about the brutalist nature of uncivilized behavior, but that’s not it at all. It’s about finding what works to keep people safe and fed and going. You shed the parts that are just…extraneous, and you learn new skills you’d never need in suburban New Jersey, and it’s all just a shift to a new kind of perspective. It’s so interesting. Especially because we know “civilization” isn’t that different, in certain ways. It’s just about what society deems palatable. It’s not okay to stab someone who upsets you, but we see in the Taylors, and in the political event Taissa attends, that people will say truly vile things and just paste a smile over it. That sort of behavior gets dropped in the woods because it serves no one. It’s replaced with violence, but both kinds do damage. So we have a bunch of kids who have spent 17-18 years learning the rules of society, and then have to unlearn them in a hurry just to survive. Those who can’t shift their perspective, acclimate to the new rules don’t make it. It’s violent, and it’s devastating, but it does have rules. It’s something I can’t wait to see more of down the road.

#ask #yellowjackets #yellowjackets spoilers #and they jump on this stuff early #like how within the first month or two they’re all parsing out the things they’re good at #leaning on one another and shoring up each other’s weaknesses #it also really hits me how Nat can do things if it’s FOR others that she wouldn’t necessarily do herself #like getting the ring for Travis. like pushing past the trauma of her father’s death to master the gun #and that’s of course why Jackie doesn’t survive. she’s still playing by the old rule book #the one where it matters most that your friend cheated and lied #and it matters so much by the rules of teen girlhood that you can’t show weakness and just come in out of the cold #society doesn’t vanish in the wilderness. it just shifts according to necessity.

[fantasticgothicpeachsludge]

Is it just me or does it feel like a lot of the lis fandom doesn’t understand that teenagers can’t consent to “relationships” with grown fucking adults

#it’s also extremely disturbing and concerning because yall ARE adults #STOP SAYING RACHEL CHEATED ON CHLOE #I DONT CARE IF RACHEL WAS 18 FRANK WAS STILL TOO FUCKING OLD FOR HER #AND KNEW HER WHEN SHE WAS 16 #IT WAS PREDATORY AND WRONG #AND CHOLE PROBABLY REALIZED THAT WHEN SHE GOT OLDER #if she got older- #she may have been the age of consent but that doesn’t change the fact that it was predatory and wrong #again ​just because she says in her notes that she’s happy or whatever or that she looked happy in the picture frank had of her doesn’t #change anything #a teenager thinking that they’re happy and in love or just having fun doesn’t mean they aren’t being taken advantage of #most kids don’t realize anything is wrong until things /start/ getting scary or someone finds out and explains /or/ they get older #RACHEL WAS A TEENAGER WHO WAS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF #JUST BECAUSE SHE DIDNT REALIZE IT DOESN’T CHANGE THAT FACT #she literally was just to young to understand what was happening and how wrong it was #and even if she did she probably thought it was “different” for her #life is strange #rachel amber #lis before the storm

[whyeverr]

Everyone’s stuck here regardless, so we might as well make the most of it... Cabin fever party! ⛄️ 

#lydia loves sounds (that's one of her quirks) so she love love loves the boombox and loves to dance!!! 😚 #but she sure is taking her sweet ass time learning to crawl 🥲 #her milestones keep resetting so i cheat them back in but i can't cheat progress toward a milestone #reason 74582920103 that infant milestones should have just been (basegame) skills #rebuild a city #ts4bacc #1_08 #ts4 #ts4 gameplay #octavia li #lydia li #tyler fuentes

[yourqueenb]

I think Dirty Little Secrets is interesting so far. And I’m surprised I haven’t seen more about it. It feels different than PB’s usual in some ways

#choices dls #choices dirty little secrets #choices #choices stories you play #playchoices #yeah it seems like they’re still gonna lean heavily on smut #that’s no surprise #but at least the LI has a little allure to him #and we’re not fucking cheating for once 🙄 #I’m sure the HOA bitch won’t be too different from their usual antagonists either #she def gives Vanessa from MoTY vibes #but I like the messiness of having a book centered around a neighborhood #I wanna know all the tea lol #and I want our neighbors gossiping about us and the LI #and obviously I’m especially intrigued by Sadie saying he killed his wife #the mystery aspect makes all of this even more interesting #so yeah overall we’ll see how PB handles it #hopefully they learned from the mistakes they made in MoTY with Vanessa and the PTA #and hopefully they don’t drop the ball on the mystery like they usually do #which is honestly very likely since they have a tendency to ignore plot in favor of smut 🤦🏽‍♀️ #either way though I’m tentatively optimistic #choices app

[extremelyputridfishbreath]

speaking of my favorite daughter gin

i dont remember if i've posted this but this is her first drawn image ever i think, but this was supposed to be for cpi! her club penguin design has always been very consistent, other than a few changes with her goggle colors changing a few times, her scarf becoming a medal and her spots changing and the color (and shape) of her whiskers as well! :>

#honestly gin is so funny to me (affectionate) because shes literally so normal. #her girlfriend literally brainwashed the band and only pivoted from it because it was too much effort. penelope is rich and a crazy cat lad #but for puffles. even her HENCHMAN is some talking drawing from the box dimension...AND THATS NOT GETTING INTO EX- DICTATOR HERBERT AND HIS #ACCOMPLICE KLUTZY OR THE SEVERAL ROBOTS THAT TURNED EVIL...OR LITERAL EVIL GHOSTS #meanwhile this girl eats hot chip lies and cheats at sports and games #...god she probably was seething about how everyone has something going on but shes literally just a snow leopard who uses underhanded #tricks to win... * gin voice * SCRABBLE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A DEATH RAY! #...as you can tell much like scrabble im SO normal about her (lie) #fun fact her spots are technically STILL that detailed in the more recent drawing. i just toned them down bc im emulating the (new) upa #style to a degree and well. while i wouldnt say her stylization now is super animation friendly (bc i dont animate) i think itd probably be #at least a little more managable lol. so like if i drew her in club penguins style again shed be more spotty

[katnissgirlsmakedo]

whoever invented credit cards should be shot. what do you mean i need to build a good credit score and spend money that’s not mine but i have to make payments and they don’t have to be the full payment except they do because that’s how you get a good score. so you’re telling me i’m spending the same amount of money. the money that i have. but have to go through this bullshit middle man so they can GRADE me on spending money. i’m really gonna kill someone

#what is so wrong with the humble debit card. she never lies. she never cheats. she’s timeless grace and beauty…. #the credit card is like. a landlord. EW! #beth.txt